Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I know that at this point, only Arne and have responded to the question, but that’s cool because they kindasorta took opposing sides. I’m conflicted, actually, seeing drawbacks (it’s too soon) & benefits (self preservation! as we steel ourselves for the eventual out-law onslaught). So, here’s the dealio: both the transplant center *AND* Jim (yeah, he said so to me last night) feel that yes, we actually ARE talking about recurrent PSC. (I didn’t even bother to point-counterpoint with Jim. Presently, I’m so determined it’s fatty liver, I know that’s probably my own denial at work). Fortunately, Jim’s attitude is as good as can be under the circumstances, in other words “whatever it takes.” (See, I told you that guy’s Superman!) He says he’ll just deal with whatever he’s faced with whenever he has to, much as he’d prefer to not (of course). Which is really great in the scheme of things, because as the person he’s appointed to be his medical advocate, I take my lead from him, I take my strength from him, especially now, so that I can be strong for him later down the road… I’m sure you all get what I’m saying. So I can see where you’d say to wait, Arne. But how long might you consider waiting, given our circumstances and duty to communicate to some very difficult people? It’s most certainly not those in this support group, but those Jim & I encounter in our day-to-day, “non-cyber” lives who aren’t going to “get” it (or a lot of “it”), who haven’t been in any kind of learning curve, and who, as much as some of them might insist otherwise, have not been riding this ulcerative colitis and PSC rollercoaster with Jim & myself since 1984. About those of whom I speak, assuming they’re truly interested, and have the right motives, then they’re going to need the education and venue for communication which a CaringBridge website can help provide (if we’re to keep our sanity intact, because theoretically, we’d only have to go there and post something once). From our previous dark time, I’m all for self-preservation. Thanks for your responses, Arne and . I welcome any and all other input as well – you all have valuable things to share. Love, Maureen PS Arne, you and Judy make such a great couple. And you never cease to amaze me… you hoist your own bales of hay, you explore Norwegian fjords and Irish horse farms, you craft your own boats, you canoe lakes and streams, you grow your own vegetables… and it’s like, in some unexplainable way, in this process, you defeat your own PSC. What an inspiration you are! PS , the picture didn’t come through – do you remember what beach in San Diego? Was it more north, where we are? Do you remember the name of any towns you visited? There have been a lot of changes around this place in six years, that’s for sure. But my goodness, don’t go calling yourself a bad sister!!! You’re probably anything but!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I know that at this point, only Arne and have responded to the question, but that’s cool because they kindasorta took opposing sides. I’m conflicted, actually, seeing drawbacks (it’s too soon) & benefits (self preservation! as we steel ourselves for the eventual out-law onslaught). So, here’s the dealio: both the transplant center *AND* Jim (yeah, he said so to me last night) feel that yes, we actually ARE talking about recurrent PSC. (I didn’t even bother to point-counterpoint with Jim. Presently, I’m so determined it’s fatty liver, I know that’s probably my own denial at work). Fortunately, Jim’s attitude is as good as can be under the circumstances, in other words “whatever it takes.” (See, I told you that guy’s Superman!) He says he’ll just deal with whatever he’s faced with whenever he has to, much as he’d prefer to not (of course). Which is really great in the scheme of things, because as the person he’s appointed to be his medical advocate, I take my lead from him, I take my strength from him, especially now, so that I can be strong for him later down the road… I’m sure you all get what I’m saying. So I can see where you’d say to wait, Arne. But how long might you consider waiting, given our circumstances and duty to communicate to some very difficult people? It’s most certainly not those in this support group, but those Jim & I encounter in our day-to-day, “non-cyber” lives who aren’t going to “get” it (or a lot of “it”), who haven’t been in any kind of learning curve, and who, as much as some of them might insist otherwise, have not been riding this ulcerative colitis and PSC rollercoaster with Jim & myself since 1984. About those of whom I speak, assuming they’re truly interested, and have the right motives, then they’re going to need the education and venue for communication which a CaringBridge website can help provide (if we’re to keep our sanity intact, because theoretically, we’d only have to go there and post something once). From our previous dark time, I’m all for self-preservation. Thanks for your responses, Arne and . I welcome any and all other input as well – you all have valuable things to share. Love, Maureen PS Arne, you and Judy make such a great couple. And you never cease to amaze me… you hoist your own bales of hay, you explore Norwegian fjords and Irish horse farms, you craft your own boats, you canoe lakes and streams, you grow your own vegetables… and it’s like, in some unexplainable way, in this process, you defeat your own PSC. What an inspiration you are! PS , the picture didn’t come through – do you remember what beach in San Diego? Was it more north, where we are? Do you remember the name of any towns you visited? There have been a lot of changes around this place in six years, that’s for sure. But my goodness, don’t go calling yourself a bad sister!!! You’re probably anything but!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Maureen All of what you say in your "outlaw" lines have played out in our world too. In the worst of ways. It's ugly beyond explanation. I think one of the things that is hard to learn with family who are so 'close' is they too have strengths and weaknesses. When the only "support" that can be offered is to make matters worse, then at some point, at least for me, you do "whatever it takes" to separate yourself and yours from this predictable "support-NOT" as those events which trigger the "support" occurs. After all, the only thing any of us can ever HOPE to control is ourselves, and most of the time most of us are deeply challenged just to do that. I get, along with a whole list of hot emotions,--- amused, by people who think they can prescribe the precisely right thing after listening for 3-4 seconds. I call it mucked-up self esteem gone awire, and several other not so nice things in my weaker moments. Bestjd, 45 goin to 46UC 1973, Jpouch 2000, Chronic Pouchitis 2001, PSC 2004, Stage 3Southern, IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Maureen All of what you say in your "outlaw" lines have played out in our world too. In the worst of ways. It's ugly beyond explanation. I think one of the things that is hard to learn with family who are so 'close' is they too have strengths and weaknesses. When the only "support" that can be offered is to make matters worse, then at some point, at least for me, you do "whatever it takes" to separate yourself and yours from this predictable "support-NOT" as those events which trigger the "support" occurs. After all, the only thing any of us can ever HOPE to control is ourselves, and most of the time most of us are deeply challenged just to do that. I get, along with a whole list of hot emotions,--- amused, by people who think they can prescribe the precisely right thing after listening for 3-4 seconds. I call it mucked-up self esteem gone awire, and several other not so nice things in my weaker moments. Bestjd, 45 goin to 46UC 1973, Jpouch 2000, Chronic Pouchitis 2001, PSC 2004, Stage 3Southern, IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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