Re: OK this was in realy bad taste.

[Guest guest]

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

Personally, I enjoyed it and I think it's pretty dang close to the

truth. I love sarcasm at the expense of 12 step groups. I really

really hate 12 step groups. Actually, what I hate most is people who

haven't a clue about 12 step groups, talking about how great they are.

I hate when people are uncomfortable with the pain I've endured

because of 12 step treatment, and deal with their discomfort by

telling me I should be quiet and let the abuse continue.

It doesn't bother me to hear people say, AA helped me. In fact, I like

hearing that. I like hearing that people are actually helped, whether

it's by medication, support groups, therapy, a new job or hobby or

relationship.

What bothers me is the idea that the 12 steps are some kind of

universal answer, because they're not. Religion is not a universal

answer, neither is capitalism nor communism for that matter. Not love

nor logic nor art nor science.

I better write my own post because I'm rambling in response to this

post...

judith

[Guest guest]

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

Personally, I enjoyed it and I think it's pretty dang close to the

truth. I love sarcasm at the expense of 12 step groups. I really

really hate 12 step groups. Actually, what I hate most is people who

haven't a clue about 12 step groups, talking about how great they are.

I hate when people are uncomfortable with the pain I've endured

because of 12 step treatment, and deal with their discomfort by

telling me I should be quiet and let the abuse continue.

It doesn't bother me to hear people say, AA helped me. In fact, I like

hearing that. I like hearing that people are actually helped, whether

it's by medication, support groups, therapy, a new job or hobby or

relationship.

What bothers me is the idea that the 12 steps are some kind of

universal answer, because they're not. Religion is not a universal

answer, neither is capitalism nor communism for that matter. Not love

nor logic nor art nor science.

I better write my own post because I'm rambling in response to this

post...

judith

[Guest guest]

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

Personally, I enjoyed it and I think it's pretty dang close to the

truth. I love sarcasm at the expense of 12 step groups. I really

really hate 12 step groups. Actually, what I hate most is people who

haven't a clue about 12 step groups, talking about how great they are.

I hate when people are uncomfortable with the pain I've endured

because of 12 step treatment, and deal with their discomfort by

telling me I should be quiet and let the abuse continue.

It doesn't bother me to hear people say, AA helped me. In fact, I like

hearing that. I like hearing that people are actually helped, whether

it's by medication, support groups, therapy, a new job or hobby or

relationship.

What bothers me is the idea that the 12 steps are some kind of

universal answer, because they're not. Religion is not a universal

answer, neither is capitalism nor communism for that matter. Not love

nor logic nor art nor science.

I better write my own post because I'm rambling in response to this

post...

judith

[Guest guest]

Ive known two AA friends say that AA men only ever went to CoDA to

find women. It's kinda like having AL-Anon groups youre allowed in.

When CoDA started in London it was almost all women; by the end, it

was getting to be almost all men, the women having retreated into a

women's only group which threw me out of the building once. I wasnt

trying to attend their meeting, I was just clearing up after a Sex an

Love Addicts meeting that I'd just been in, which got me off to a bad

start...

P.

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

[Guest guest]

Ive known two AA friends say that AA men only ever went to CoDA to

find women. It's kinda like having AL-Anon groups youre allowed in.

When CoDA started in London it was almost all women; by the end, it

was getting to be almost all men, the women having retreated into a

women's only group which threw me out of the building once. I wasnt

trying to attend their meeting, I was just clearing up after a Sex an

Love Addicts meeting that I'd just been in, which got me off to a bad

start...

P.

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

[Guest guest]

Ive known two AA friends say that AA men only ever went to CoDA to

find women. It's kinda like having AL-Anon groups youre allowed in.

When CoDA started in London it was almost all women; by the end, it

was getting to be almost all men, the women having retreated into a

women's only group which threw me out of the building once. I wasnt

trying to attend their meeting, I was just clearing up after a Sex an

Love Addicts meeting that I'd just been in, which got me off to a bad

start...

P.

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/01/01 07:57:11 GMT Standard Time, lhl@...

writes:

<< /group/12-step-friends >>

I know this is in bad taste but I think its funny !

[Guest guest]

What is in bad taste and what is so funny ? I havent seen anything that is in bad taste posted, do I need to go to a web site or something?

Sue A

[Guest guest]

What is in bad taste and what is so funny ? I havent seen anything that is in bad taste posted, do I need to go to a web site or something?

Sue A

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Ok, I just went to the egroups site you listed and see what is so funny - what a sicko, thank god there are only two members

Sue A

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Ok, I just went to the egroups site you listed and see what is so funny - what a sicko, thank god there are only two members

Sue A

[Guest guest]

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Ok, I just went to the egroups site you listed and see what is so funny - what a sicko, thank god there are only two members

Sue A

[Guest guest]

That was a hoot! You really ought to keep it on there awhile to see if

you get any members.

lhl@... wrote:

> OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off.

>

> /group/12-step-friends

[Guest guest]

> >

> > your rambling is understood Judith. Piper.

>

> did'nt catch that, what were you referring to?

> Larry

In response to your original post, I wrote a sort of diatribe about

how I enjoyed a laugh at AA's expense. I believe that's what Piper's

referring to.

To Piper: It feels good to be understood, doesn't it?

judith

[Guest guest]

> >

> > your rambling is understood Judith. Piper.

>

> did'nt catch that, what were you referring to?

> Larry

In response to your original post, I wrote a sort of diatribe about

how I enjoyed a laugh at AA's expense. I believe that's what Piper's

referring to.

To Piper: It feels good to be understood, doesn't it?

judith