Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 So join! hehe Larry Judith Stillwater wrote: > > > > OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off. > > > > /group/12-step-friends > > Personally, I enjoyed it and I think it's pretty dang close to the > truth. I love sarcasm at the expense of 12 step groups. I really > really hate 12 step groups. Actually, what I hate most is people who > haven't a clue about 12 step groups, talking about how great they are. > I hate when people are uncomfortable with the pain I've endured > because of 12 step treatment, and deal with their discomfort by > telling me I should be quiet and let the abuse continue. > > It doesn't bother me to hear people say, AA helped me. In fact, I like > hearing that. I like hearing that people are actually helped, whether > it's by medication, support groups, therapy, a new job or hobby or > relationship. > > What bothers me is the idea that the 12 steps are some kind of > universal answer, because they're not. Religion is not a universal > answer, neither is capitalism nor communism for that matter. Not love > nor logic nor art nor science. > > I better write my own post because I'm rambling in response to this > post... > > judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 So join! hehe Larry Judith Stillwater wrote: > > > > OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off. > > > > /group/12-step-friends > > Personally, I enjoyed it and I think it's pretty dang close to the > truth. I love sarcasm at the expense of 12 step groups. I really > really hate 12 step groups. Actually, what I hate most is people who > haven't a clue about 12 step groups, talking about how great they are. > I hate when people are uncomfortable with the pain I've endured > because of 12 step treatment, and deal with their discomfort by > telling me I should be quiet and let the abuse continue. > > It doesn't bother me to hear people say, AA helped me. In fact, I like > hearing that. I like hearing that people are actually helped, whether > it's by medication, support groups, therapy, a new job or hobby or > relationship. > > What bothers me is the idea that the 12 steps are some kind of > universal answer, because they're not. Religion is not a universal > answer, neither is capitalism nor communism for that matter. Not love > nor logic nor art nor science. > > I better write my own post because I'm rambling in response to this > post... > > judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 I did! lhl@... wrote: > So join! > hehe > Larry > > Judith Stillwater wrote: > > > > > > > OK this was in realy bad taste. I'll take it off. > > > > > > /group/12-step-friends > > > > Personally, I enjoyed it and I think it's pretty dang close to the > > truth. I love sarcasm at the expense of 12 step groups. I really > > really hate 12 step groups. Actually, what I hate most is people who > > haven't a clue about 12 step groups, talking about how great they are. > > I hate when people are uncomfortable with the pain I've endured > > because of 12 step treatment, and deal with their discomfort by > > telling me I should be quiet and let the abuse continue. > > > > It doesn't bother me to hear people say, AA helped me. In fact, I like > > hearing that. I like hearing that people are actually helped, whether > > it's by medication, support groups, therapy, a new job or hobby or > > relationship. > > > > What bothers me is the idea that the 12 steps are some kind of > > universal answer, because they're not. Religion is not a universal > > answer, neither is capitalism nor communism for that matter. Not love > > nor logic nor art nor science. > > > > I better write my own post because I'm rambling in response to this > > post... > > > > judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Pipercubxt@... wrote: > > your rambling is understood Judith. Piper. did'nt catch that, what were you referring to? Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 your rambling is understood Judith. Piper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 your rambling is understood Judith. Piper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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