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Shanah,

I agree with you. I smoked for eleven years, quit cold turkey, without

being pregnant. Never smoked again. I have little tolerance for cigarette

smoke because it makes me feel so awful. In reality though, there are many

mothers who continue to smoke while breastfeeding, those women should know

that they will run a much bigger risk if they bottlefeed too.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

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Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR>

> <BR>

> & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR>

> & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the

smoke<BR>

> & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping

with<BR>

> & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR>

> <BR>

> Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it

is<BR>

> still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR>

> formula from a smoking mom.<BR>

> <BR>

> Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk

about<BR>

> seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are

already<BR>

> disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to

quit<BR>

> during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom

complain<BR>

> about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at

least<BR>

> she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least

they're<BR>

> protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR>

> <BR>

> Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice

than<BR>

> formula.<BR>

> <BR>

> If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR>

> breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR>

> breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her

baby,<BR>

> since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR>

> currently smoking.<BR>

> <BR>

> We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR>

> they make are theirs, not ours.<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

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Shanah,

I agree with you. I smoked for eleven years, quit cold turkey, without

being pregnant. Never smoked again. I have little tolerance for cigarette

smoke because it makes me feel so awful. In reality though, there are many

mothers who continue to smoke while breastfeeding, those women should know

that they will run a much bigger risk if they bottlefeed too.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding info & resources

Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR>

> <BR>

> & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR>

> & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the

smoke<BR>

> & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping

with<BR>

> & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR>

> <BR>

> Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it

is<BR>

> still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR>

> formula from a smoking mom.<BR>

> <BR>

> Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk

about<BR>

> seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are

already<BR>

> disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to

quit<BR>

> during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom

complain<BR>

> about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at

least<BR>

> she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least

they're<BR>

> protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR>

> <BR>

> Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice

than<BR>

> formula.<BR>

> <BR>

> If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR>

> breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR>

> breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her

baby,<BR>

> since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR>

> currently smoking.<BR>

> <BR>

> We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR>

> they make are theirs, not ours.<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<B

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Dear Shanah,

I think you bring up a good point -- that as parents we are obligated to create

a safe and

healthy environment -- and I certainly feel I have devoted myself to doing that

for my

children. I smoked a lot for over ten years, and then quit cold turkey when I

started trying

to conceive. My son was born exactly a year later and I have never smoked

since. However,

as someone who has worked with many, many different mothers n all sorts of

situations,

including homeless shelters, hospitals, prisons and most recently, preschool, I

can tell you

that many people will have a different definition of what " safe and healthy "

means for them and their family. I can tell you, after dealing with so many

different types

of mothers, it is difficult to be so judgemental about their choices. Not

everyone is

willing to make the choice to become smoke free. Shouldn't we still encourage

them to

breastfeed, knowing as we do that it is the best for their baby?

I do feel that until the reason that smokers have a higher rate of SIDS is fully

determined,

breastfeeding smokers should be very careful and should change their clothes,

shower, etc.,

before being with their baby, including sleeping with them..At least, this is

what I would

do.

Margaret

Avoid pushing too hard. Your children are full of spirit and will find their

way. Their

true parent resides within them; you are only a reflection.

--Vimala McClure, The Tao of Motherhood

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Shanah@... wrote:

> From: Shanah@...

>

> I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are

obligated to

> that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a

safe and

> healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding.

>

> I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I

was pregnant

> - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then.

>

> Shanah

>

> > ** Original Subject: RE: Re: drugs/smoking

> > ** >

> > ** Original Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:44:19 -0600

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > <html><body>

> > <tt>From:</tt> <tt>

> > & quot;Wendi & quot; & lt;NatureBaby@... & gt;</tt>

> > <br><br>

> > <tt>

> > ,<BR>

> > <BR>

> > good point. & nbsp; At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense

of<BR>

> > protection to the child from second hand smoke. & nbsp; With formula there is

no<BR>

> > protection.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Wendi<BR>

> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR>

> > breastfeeding info & amp; resources<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR>

> > <BR>

> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR>

> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the

smoke<BR>

> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR>

> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR>

> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR>

> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR>

> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR>

> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR>

> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR>

> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at

least<BR>

> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least

they're<BR>

> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR>

> > formula.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR>

> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR>

> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR>

> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR>

> > currently smoking.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR>

> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>

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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR>

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> > <BR>

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Dear Shanah,

I think you bring up a good point -- that as parents we are obligated to create

a safe and

healthy environment -- and I certainly feel I have devoted myself to doing that

for my

children. I smoked a lot for over ten years, and then quit cold turkey when I

started trying

to conceive. My son was born exactly a year later and I have never smoked

since. However,

as someone who has worked with many, many different mothers n all sorts of

situations,

including homeless shelters, hospitals, prisons and most recently, preschool, I

can tell you

that many people will have a different definition of what " safe and healthy "

means for them and their family. I can tell you, after dealing with so many

different types

of mothers, it is difficult to be so judgemental about their choices. Not

everyone is

willing to make the choice to become smoke free. Shouldn't we still encourage

them to

breastfeed, knowing as we do that it is the best for their baby?

I do feel that until the reason that smokers have a higher rate of SIDS is fully

determined,

breastfeeding smokers should be very careful and should change their clothes,

shower, etc.,

before being with their baby, including sleeping with them..At least, this is

what I would

do.

Margaret

Avoid pushing too hard. Your children are full of spirit and will find their

way. Their

true parent resides within them; you are only a reflection.

--Vimala McClure, The Tao of Motherhood

mailto:potterkim@...

Shanah@... wrote:

> From: Shanah@...

>

> I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are

obligated to

> that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a

safe and

> healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding.

>

> I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I

was pregnant

> - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then.

>

> Shanah

>

> > ** Original Subject: RE: Re: drugs/smoking

> > ** >

> > ** Original Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:44:19 -0600

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > <html><body>

> > <tt>From:</tt> <tt>

> > & quot;Wendi & quot; & lt;NatureBaby@... & gt;</tt>

> > <br><br>

> > <tt>

> > ,<BR>

> > <BR>

> > good point. & nbsp; At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense

of<BR>

> > protection to the child from second hand smoke. & nbsp; With formula there is

no<BR>

> > protection.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Wendi<BR>

> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR>

> > breastfeeding info & amp; resources<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR>

> > <BR>

> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR>

> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the

smoke<BR>

> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR>

> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR>

> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR>

> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR>

> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR>

> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR>

> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR>

> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at

least<BR>

> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least

they're<BR>

> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR>

> > formula.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR>

> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR>

> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR>

> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR>

> > currently smoking.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR>

> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>

> > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! & nbsp; Get rates<BR>

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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR>

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> > <BR>

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Dear Shanah,

I think you bring up a good point -- that as parents we are obligated to create

a safe and

healthy environment -- and I certainly feel I have devoted myself to doing that

for my

children. I smoked a lot for over ten years, and then quit cold turkey when I

started trying

to conceive. My son was born exactly a year later and I have never smoked

since. However,

as someone who has worked with many, many different mothers n all sorts of

situations,

including homeless shelters, hospitals, prisons and most recently, preschool, I

can tell you

that many people will have a different definition of what " safe and healthy "

means for them and their family. I can tell you, after dealing with so many

different types

of mothers, it is difficult to be so judgemental about their choices. Not

everyone is

willing to make the choice to become smoke free. Shouldn't we still encourage

them to

breastfeed, knowing as we do that it is the best for their baby?

I do feel that until the reason that smokers have a higher rate of SIDS is fully

determined,

breastfeeding smokers should be very careful and should change their clothes,

shower, etc.,

before being with their baby, including sleeping with them..At least, this is

what I would

do.

Margaret

Avoid pushing too hard. Your children are full of spirit and will find their

way. Their

true parent resides within them; you are only a reflection.

--Vimala McClure, The Tao of Motherhood

mailto:potterkim@...

Shanah@... wrote:

> From: Shanah@...

>

> I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are

obligated to

> that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a

safe and

> healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding.

>

> I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I

was pregnant

> - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then.

>

> Shanah

>

> > ** Original Subject: RE: Re: drugs/smoking

> > ** >

> > ** Original Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:44:19 -0600

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > <html><body>

> > <tt>From:</tt> <tt>

> > & quot;Wendi & quot; & lt;NatureBaby@... & gt;</tt>

> > <br><br>

> > <tt>

> > ,<BR>

> > <BR>

> > good point. & nbsp; At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense

of<BR>

> > protection to the child from second hand smoke. & nbsp; With formula there is

no<BR>

> > protection.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Wendi<BR>

> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR>

> > breastfeeding info & amp; resources<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR>

> > <BR>

> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR>

> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the

smoke<BR>

> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR>

> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR>

> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR>

> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR>

> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR>

> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR>

> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR>

> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at

least<BR>

> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least

they're<BR>

> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR>

> > formula.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR>

> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR>

> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR>

> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR>

> > currently smoking.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR>

> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

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In a message dated 03/27/2000 5:42:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

angehowe@... writes:

<< I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found

out I was pregnant

> - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then.

>

> Shanah >>

I was the same way. Started smoking at 18, and quit the day I found out I

was pregnant with my son. Cold Turkey!!! I never looked back.

Jen

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