Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 In a message dated 3/25/00 8:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, angehowe@... writes: << Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine >> This sounds so horrible .. breastmilk laced with nicotine. YIKES ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 In a message dated 3/25/00 8:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, angehowe@... writes: << Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine >> This sounds so horrible .. breastmilk laced with nicotine. YIKES ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 In a message dated 3/25/00 8:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, angehowe@... writes: << Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine >> This sounds so horrible .. breastmilk laced with nicotine. YIKES ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 > One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the > clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. The chemicals in the smoke > are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with > their baby increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS. Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than formula from a smoking mom. Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about seeing babies with smoking mothers. Many of these moms are already disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that " at least she's not breastfeeding, too. " Many of them feel that at least they're protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true. Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 > One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the > clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. The chemicals in the smoke > are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with > their baby increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS. Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than formula from a smoking mom. Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about seeing babies with smoking mothers. Many of these moms are already disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that " at least she's not breastfeeding, too. " Many of them feel that at least they're protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true. Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 I knew that as soon as I read a post that said that babies inhale chemicals left on a smoker, or someone around a smoker, that someone reading would be concerned. There are currently no studies to my knowledge that can successfully show this relationship between the residues of smoking on the skin of an adult transferring to another person. The only consistently proven dangers of cigarette occur when there is smoke. The smoke carries the agents (nicotine, formaldeyhde, tar, etc), and the residue left behind hasn't been shown to carry any significant amounts. Please remember that breastmilk has been proven to fight cancer, bacteria, viruses, and other foreign objects. Breastfeeding mothers who smoke would benefit more from information that wearing a nicotine patch is approved by the American Academy of Pediatrics than they would by observing judgment from other non-smoking breastfeeding mothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 I knew that as soon as I read a post that said that babies inhale chemicals left on a smoker, or someone around a smoker, that someone reading would be concerned. There are currently no studies to my knowledge that can successfully show this relationship between the residues of smoking on the skin of an adult transferring to another person. The only consistently proven dangers of cigarette occur when there is smoke. The smoke carries the agents (nicotine, formaldeyhde, tar, etc), and the residue left behind hasn't been shown to carry any significant amounts. Please remember that breastmilk has been proven to fight cancer, bacteria, viruses, and other foreign objects. Breastfeeding mothers who smoke would benefit more from information that wearing a nicotine patch is approved by the American Academy of Pediatrics than they would by observing judgment from other non-smoking breastfeeding mothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 I knew that as soon as I read a post that said that babies inhale chemicals left on a smoker, or someone around a smoker, that someone reading would be concerned. There are currently no studies to my knowledge that can successfully show this relationship between the residues of smoking on the skin of an adult transferring to another person. The only consistently proven dangers of cigarette occur when there is smoke. The smoke carries the agents (nicotine, formaldeyhde, tar, etc), and the residue left behind hasn't been shown to carry any significant amounts. Please remember that breastmilk has been proven to fight cancer, bacteria, viruses, and other foreign objects. Breastfeeding mothers who smoke would benefit more from information that wearing a nicotine patch is approved by the American Academy of Pediatrics than they would by observing judgment from other non-smoking breastfeeding mothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 Hi , > There are currently no studies to my knowledge that can successfully > show this relationship between the residues of smoking on the skin of an > adult transferring to another person. The only consistently proven > dangers of cigarette occur when there is smoke. The smoke carries the > agents (nicotine, formaldeyhde, tar, etc), and the residue left behind > hasn't been shown to carry any significant amounts. this is something I have been soooo paranoid about! My sisters boyfriend smokes, and I didn't even want him to hold Verity for that reason - everyone thinks I'm being over-protective. I have a friend who wants to come and visit and see Verity but she smokes - I don't let anyone smoke in the house, but she'd have smoky smells on her from going out into the garden for a cigarette! Am I crazy? Oh dear, I think I am, aren't I?! My sister's getting married next May and I'm already stressing out about taking my little one to a place where people might be smoking...I know I can't spend the rest of my life with her in an oxygen-tent <g> but can someone put my mind at rest? One night when she's 15 months old isn't going to do any harm, is it? (just call me paranoid mom!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 Hi , > There are currently no studies to my knowledge that can successfully > show this relationship between the residues of smoking on the skin of an > adult transferring to another person. The only consistently proven > dangers of cigarette occur when there is smoke. The smoke carries the > agents (nicotine, formaldeyhde, tar, etc), and the residue left behind > hasn't been shown to carry any significant amounts. this is something I have been soooo paranoid about! My sisters boyfriend smokes, and I didn't even want him to hold Verity for that reason - everyone thinks I'm being over-protective. I have a friend who wants to come and visit and see Verity but she smokes - I don't let anyone smoke in the house, but she'd have smoky smells on her from going out into the garden for a cigarette! Am I crazy? Oh dear, I think I am, aren't I?! My sister's getting married next May and I'm already stressing out about taking my little one to a place where people might be smoking...I know I can't spend the rest of my life with her in an oxygen-tent <g> but can someone put my mind at rest? One night when she's 15 months old isn't going to do any harm, is it? (just call me paranoid mom!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 Hi , > There are currently no studies to my knowledge that can successfully > show this relationship between the residues of smoking on the skin of an > adult transferring to another person. The only consistently proven > dangers of cigarette occur when there is smoke. The smoke carries the > agents (nicotine, formaldeyhde, tar, etc), and the residue left behind > hasn't been shown to carry any significant amounts. this is something I have been soooo paranoid about! My sisters boyfriend smokes, and I didn't even want him to hold Verity for that reason - everyone thinks I'm being over-protective. I have a friend who wants to come and visit and see Verity but she smokes - I don't let anyone smoke in the house, but she'd have smoky smells on her from going out into the garden for a cigarette! Am I crazy? Oh dear, I think I am, aren't I?! My sister's getting married next May and I'm already stressing out about taking my little one to a place where people might be smoking...I know I can't spend the rest of my life with her in an oxygen-tent <g> but can someone put my mind at rest? One night when she's 15 months old isn't going to do any harm, is it? (just call me paranoid mom!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 <>Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours.<> Thanks . It is harder to stop smoking long term than stopping drug abuse ( and yes I have been there ) Liz AKA Rosesgrow1@... SAHM to Connor 7 Tristan 4 and Makenna 1/7/00 http://members.aol.com/rosesgrow1/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 <>Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours.<> Thanks . It is harder to stop smoking long term than stopping drug abuse ( and yes I have been there ) Liz AKA Rosesgrow1@... SAHM to Connor 7 Tristan 4 and Makenna 1/7/00 http://members.aol.com/rosesgrow1/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 <>Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours.<> Thanks . It is harder to stop smoking long term than stopping drug abuse ( and yes I have been there ) Liz AKA Rosesgrow1@... SAHM to Connor 7 Tristan 4 and Makenna 1/7/00 http://members.aol.com/rosesgrow1/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 , good point. At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense of protection to the child from second hand smoke. With formula there is no protection. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding info & resources Re: Re: drugs/smoking > One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the > clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. The chemicals in the smoke > are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with > their baby increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS. Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than formula from a smoking mom. Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about seeing babies with smoking mothers. Many of these moms are already disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that " at least she's not breastfeeding, too. " Many of them feel that at least they're protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true. Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 , good point. At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense of protection to the child from second hand smoke. With formula there is no protection. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding info & resources Re: Re: drugs/smoking > One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the > clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. The chemicals in the smoke > are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with > their baby increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS. Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than formula from a smoking mom. Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about seeing babies with smoking mothers. Many of these moms are already disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that " at least she's not breastfeeding, too. " Many of them feel that at least they're protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true. Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 , good point. At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense of protection to the child from second hand smoke. With formula there is no protection. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding info & resources Re: Re: drugs/smoking > One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the > clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. The chemicals in the smoke > are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with > their baby increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS. Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than formula from a smoking mom. Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about seeing babies with smoking mothers. Many of these moms are already disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that " at least she's not breastfeeding, too. " Many of them feel that at least they're protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true. Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than formula. If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby, since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not currently smoking. We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices they make are theirs, not ours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are obligated to that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a safe and healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding. I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I was pregnant - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then. Shanah > ** Original Subject: RE: Re: drugs/smoking > ** > > ** Original Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:44:19 -0600 > ** Original Message follows... > > <html><body> > <tt>From:</tt> <tt> > & quot;Wendi & quot; & lt;NatureBaby@... & gt;</tt> > <br><br> > <tt> > ,<BR> > <BR> > good point. & nbsp; At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense of<BR> > protection to the child from second hand smoke. & nbsp; With formula there is no<BR> > protection.<BR> > <BR> > Wendi<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > breastfeeding info & amp; resources<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR> > <BR> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the smoke<BR> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR> > <BR> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR> > <BR> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at least<BR> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least they're<BR> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR> > <BR> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR> > formula.<BR> > <BR> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR> > currently smoking.<BR> > <BR> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! & nbsp; Get rates<BR> > as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees.<BR> > Apply NOW!<BR> > <a href= " http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ " >http://click.egrou\ ps.com/1 /975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/</a><BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> > <BR> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <hr> > <!-- begin banner runid: 2600 crid: 1308 --> > <a target= " _blank " href= " http://click./1/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/ " ><center> > <img width= " 468 " height= " 60 " > border= " 0 " > alt= " " > src= " http://adimg./img/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/free_tshirt_online\ _banne r.gif " ></center><center><font color= " white " ></font></center></a> > <!-- end banner --> > <hr> > <tt> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a></tt> > <br> > > </body></html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > http://www.easyfoto.com/Shanah Click the link below and join up... it's fast, free, & fun!! http://www.epinions.com/welcome.html?member=Shanah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are obligated to that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a safe and healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding. I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I was pregnant - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then. Shanah > ** Original Subject: RE: Re: drugs/smoking > ** > > ** Original Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:44:19 -0600 > ** Original Message follows... > > <html><body> > <tt>From:</tt> <tt> > & quot;Wendi & quot; & lt;NatureBaby@... & gt;</tt> > <br><br> > <tt> > ,<BR> > <BR> > good point. & nbsp; At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense of<BR> > protection to the child from second hand smoke. & nbsp; With formula there is no<BR> > protection.<BR> > <BR> > Wendi<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > breastfeeding info & amp; resources<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR> > <BR> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the smoke<BR> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR> > <BR> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR> > <BR> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at least<BR> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least they're<BR> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR> > <BR> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR> > formula.<BR> > <BR> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR> > currently smoking.<BR> > <BR> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! & nbsp; Get rates<BR> > as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees.<BR> > Apply NOW!<BR> > <a href= " http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ " >http://click.egrou\ ps.com/1 /975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/</a><BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> > <BR> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <hr> > <!-- begin banner runid: 2600 crid: 1308 --> > <a target= " _blank " href= " http://click./1/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/ " ><center> > <img width= " 468 " height= " 60 " > border= " 0 " > alt= " " > src= " http://adimg./img/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/free_tshirt_online\ _banne r.gif " ></center><center><font color= " white " ></font></center></a> > <!-- end banner --> > <hr> > <tt> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a></tt> > <br> > > </body></html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > http://www.easyfoto.com/Shanah Click the link below and join up... it's fast, free, & fun!! http://www.epinions.com/welcome.html?member=Shanah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are obligated to that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a safe and healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding. I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I was pregnant - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then. Shanah > ** Original Subject: RE: Re: drugs/smoking > ** > > ** Original Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:44:19 -0600 > ** Original Message follows... > > <html><body> > <tt>From:</tt> <tt> > & quot;Wendi & quot; & lt;NatureBaby@... & gt;</tt> > <br><br> > <tt> > ,<BR> > <BR> > good point. & nbsp; At least with breastfeeding you are offering some sense of<BR> > protection to the child from second hand smoke. & nbsp; With formula there is no<BR> > protection.<BR> > <BR> > Wendi<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > breastfeeding info & amp; resources<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR> > <BR> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the smoke<BR> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR> > <BR> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR> > <BR> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at least<BR> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least they're<BR> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR> > <BR> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR> > formula.<BR> > <BR> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR> > currently smoking.<BR> > <BR> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! & nbsp; Get rates<BR> > as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees.<BR> > Apply NOW!<BR> > <a href= " http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ " >http://click.egrou\ ps.com/1 /975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/</a><BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> > <BR> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <hr> > <!-- begin banner runid: 2600 crid: 1308 --> > <a target= " _blank " href= " http://click./1/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/ " ><center> > <img width= " 468 " height= " 60 " > border= " 0 " > alt= " " > src= " http://adimg./img/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/free_tshirt_online\ _banne r.gif " ></center><center><font color= " white " ></font></center></a> > <!-- end banner --> > <hr> > <tt> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a></tt> > <br> > > </body></html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > http://www.easyfoto.com/Shanah Click the link below and join up... it's fast, free, & fun!! http://www.epinions.com/welcome.html?member=Shanah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR> > > <BR> > > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR> > > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the smoke<BR> > > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR> > > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR> > > <BR> > > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR> > > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR> > > formula from a smoking mom.<BR> > > <BR> > > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR> > > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR> > > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR> > > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR> > > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at least<BR> > > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least they're<BR> > > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR> > > <BR> > > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR> > > formula.<BR> > > <BR> > > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR> > > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR> > > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR> > > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR> > > currently smoking.<BR> > > <BR> > > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR> > > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<B R> > > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! & nbsp; Get rates<BR> > > as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees.<BR> > > Apply NOW!<BR> > > <a > href= " http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ " >http://click.e groups.com/1 > /975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/</a><BR> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<B R> > > <BR> > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > </tt> > > > > <hr> > > <!-- begin banner runid: 2600 crid: 1308 --> > > <a target= " _blank " > href= " http://click./1/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/ " ><center> > > <img width= " 468 " height= " 60 " > > border= " 0 " > > alt= " " > > > src= " http://adimg./img/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/free_tshirt_on line_banne > r.gif " ></center><center><font color= " white " ></font></center></a> > > <!-- end banner --> > > <hr> > > <tt> > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a></tt> > > <br> > > > > </body></html> > > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > > > > > > http://www.easyfoto.com/Shanah > > Click the link below and join up... it's fast, free, & fun!! > http://www.epinions.com/welcome.html?member=Shanah > > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > http://www.lactivist.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Shanah, I think your approach is admirable, and an accomplishment you should be proud of. I don't think it's a practical approach for all moms though. For those moms who haven't been able to trash their cigarettes successfully who also think that because they smoke they shouldn't breastfeed, we should do our best to educate moms about the power of breastmilk, and how much better it is than formula, even if the mom smokes. We can encourage her to quit, but we can't make that choice for her... even if it's one you believe strongly enough in that you made that choice for yourself. If you haven't noticed, most parents feel that there are very few obligations to a child. This is an unfortunate result of our society! I don't honestly feel that mothers are the ones at fault, either... I just got one of those lovely chain emails from my mother (can't convince her to quit sending them to me!) that implied that the reasons 6 year olds kill other 6 year olds is because parents are nurturing and not punitive, and because the schools no longer let children pray! Shanah@... wrote: > > From: Shanah@... > > I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are obligated to > that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a safe and > healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding. > > I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I was pregnant > - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then. > > Shanah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Shanah, I think your approach is admirable, and an accomplishment you should be proud of. I don't think it's a practical approach for all moms though. For those moms who haven't been able to trash their cigarettes successfully who also think that because they smoke they shouldn't breastfeed, we should do our best to educate moms about the power of breastmilk, and how much better it is than formula, even if the mom smokes. We can encourage her to quit, but we can't make that choice for her... even if it's one you believe strongly enough in that you made that choice for yourself. If you haven't noticed, most parents feel that there are very few obligations to a child. This is an unfortunate result of our society! I don't honestly feel that mothers are the ones at fault, either... I just got one of those lovely chain emails from my mother (can't convince her to quit sending them to me!) that implied that the reasons 6 year olds kill other 6 year olds is because parents are nurturing and not punitive, and because the schools no longer let children pray! Shanah@... wrote: > > From: Shanah@... > > I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are obligated to > that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a safe and > healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding. > > I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I was pregnant > - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then. > > Shanah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Shanah, I think your approach is admirable, and an accomplishment you should be proud of. I don't think it's a practical approach for all moms though. For those moms who haven't been able to trash their cigarettes successfully who also think that because they smoke they shouldn't breastfeed, we should do our best to educate moms about the power of breastmilk, and how much better it is than formula, even if the mom smokes. We can encourage her to quit, but we can't make that choice for her... even if it's one you believe strongly enough in that you made that choice for yourself. If you haven't noticed, most parents feel that there are very few obligations to a child. This is an unfortunate result of our society! I don't honestly feel that mothers are the ones at fault, either... I just got one of those lovely chain emails from my mother (can't convince her to quit sending them to me!) that implied that the reasons 6 year olds kill other 6 year olds is because parents are nurturing and not punitive, and because the schools no longer let children pray! Shanah@... wrote: > > From: Shanah@... > > I may come off as harsh, but in my opinion when you become a parent you are obligated to > that child to make sure that you do everything within your power to provide a safe and > healthy environment - which includes not smoking - and includes breastfeeding. > > I smoked from 16 years old till I was 24 years old (1996). When I found out I was pregnant > - I threw my cigarettes in the trash and have not touched one since then. > > Shanah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Shanah, I agree with you. I smoked for eleven years, quit cold turkey, without being pregnant. Never smoked again. I have little tolerance for cigarette smoke because it makes me feel so awful. In reality though, there are many mothers who continue to smoke while breastfeeding, those women should know that they will run a much bigger risk if they bottlefeed too. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding info & resources Re: Re: drugs/smoking<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > From: Howell & lt;angehowe@... & gt;<BR> > <BR> > & gt; One reason this is true is because some smoke will stay on the<BR> > & gt; clothes, skin, hair, etc., of the smoker. & nbsp; The chemicals in the smoke<BR> > & gt; are strong enough to effect the baby, and so a smoker sleeping with<BR> > & gt; their baby & nbsp; increases the risk of that baby dying of SIDS.<BR> > <BR> > Despite the obvious dangers to a baby/child whose parent(s) smoke, it is<BR> > still way better for a child to get breastmilk from a smoking mom than<BR> > formula from a smoking mom.<BR> > <BR> > Lots of us who breastfeed don't realize how we sound when we talk about<BR> > seeing babies with smoking mothers. & nbsp; Many of these moms are already<BR> > disappointed with their own lack of willpower to have been able to quit<BR> > during/before/after pregnancy, that to hear a breastfeeding mom complain<BR> > about the smoking usually makes the mom more defensive that & quot;at least<BR> > she's not breastfeeding, too. & quot; & nbsp; Many of them feel that at least they're<BR> > protecting their children by not breastfeeding, which isn't true.<BR> > <BR> > Breastmilk, even laced with nicotine, is by far a healthier choice than<BR> > formula.<BR> > <BR> > If anything, we should be more encouraging of a smoking mother to<BR> > breastfeed her baby than to give her reasons that would make<BR> > breastfeeding more difficult, like not co-sleeping, or holding her baby,<BR> > since the smoke and chemicals linger around them even when they're not<BR> > currently smoking.<BR> > <BR> > We can give mothers all the information in the world, but the choices<BR> > they make are theirs, not ours.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<B R> > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! & nbsp; Get rates<BR> > as low as 0.0% Intro APR and no hidden fees.<BR> > Apply NOW!<BR> > <a href= " http://click./1/975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/ " >http://click.e groups.com/1 /975/0/_/410002/_/953990989/</a><BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<B R> > <BR> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <hr> > <!-- begin banner runid: 2600 crid: 1308 --> > <a target= " _blank " href= " http://click./1/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/ " ><center> > <img width= " 468 " height= " 60 " > border= " 0 " > alt= " " > src= " http://adimg./img/2600/0/_/410002/_/954009814/free_tshirt_on line_banne r.gif " ></center><center><font color= " white " ></font></center></a> > <!-- end banner --> > <hr> > <tt> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!<BR> > <a href= " http://www.lactivist.com " >http://www.lactivist.com</a></tt> > <br> > > </body></html> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > http://www.easyfoto.com/Shanah Click the link below and join up... it's fast, free, & fun!! http://www.epinions.com/welcome.html?member=Shanah Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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