Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 , there are classroom standards for background noise and reverberation time - I can't believe a trailer would fit them. We had this as a major point in our due process. Look up the stds I think were dated June 2002. Also check out the yahoo classroom acoustics listserve. Those experts are very willing to support this cause. I don't have the url at my fingertips anymore but let me know if you can't find it. Betsy > >The second part of this post is regarding classroom acoustics. I just >found out from the school that they are moving my son's classroom to a >trailer. They had been planning this for some time and finally are done, >and they are so excited about it. I asked if it would be louder knowing it >would and they said the good thing is they have to keep the class size down >because it is a smaller room. Now I have been in the mobil classrooms and >they are really noisy especially when it is windy or raining. I also >looked on line about classroom acoustics and they mention it is a good idea >to keep classrooms away from the street, away from any type of field where >kids play or play grounds. Well this class is right next to the parking >lot, a field where kids have PE and the play ground, there is not one side >of it where there is not a lot of trafic around. So not only are we >talking about a trailer usually with even the optimal amount of insulation >is loud and not by any means a noise reducing environment if anything it is >the oppisite, but then they put it in an area of the school where there is >the most trafic and noise. I met with our case manager today and we >discussed this and have an IEP meeting scheduled and if they can't come up >with reasonable accomidations we are planning on asking them to send him >out of district, because they don't have an appropriate class for him. By >that I'm not just talking about classroom acoustics but also the fact that >he is in a class for severely handicapped kids and they are planning on >transfering him part of the day to another class with speech delayed kids >the teacher and the kids do not sign and the kids are expected to >understand what is being said. He will have an aid who uses sign with >but still neither environment is what needs just something they are >doing to try to meet at least some of his needs. In the end if they can't >give me a good alternative to being in the traler we are going to fight to >leave the district. Thanks for listening. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 , there are classroom standards for background noise and reverberation time - I can't believe a trailer would fit them. We had this as a major point in our due process. Look up the stds I think were dated June 2002. Also check out the yahoo classroom acoustics listserve. Those experts are very willing to support this cause. I don't have the url at my fingertips anymore but let me know if you can't find it. Betsy > >The second part of this post is regarding classroom acoustics. I just >found out from the school that they are moving my son's classroom to a >trailer. They had been planning this for some time and finally are done, >and they are so excited about it. I asked if it would be louder knowing it >would and they said the good thing is they have to keep the class size down >because it is a smaller room. Now I have been in the mobil classrooms and >they are really noisy especially when it is windy or raining. I also >looked on line about classroom acoustics and they mention it is a good idea >to keep classrooms away from the street, away from any type of field where >kids play or play grounds. Well this class is right next to the parking >lot, a field where kids have PE and the play ground, there is not one side >of it where there is not a lot of trafic around. So not only are we >talking about a trailer usually with even the optimal amount of insulation >is loud and not by any means a noise reducing environment if anything it is >the oppisite, but then they put it in an area of the school where there is >the most trafic and noise. I met with our case manager today and we >discussed this and have an IEP meeting scheduled and if they can't come up >with reasonable accomidations we are planning on asking them to send him >out of district, because they don't have an appropriate class for him. By >that I'm not just talking about classroom acoustics but also the fact that >he is in a class for severely handicapped kids and they are planning on >transfering him part of the day to another class with speech delayed kids >the teacher and the kids do not sign and the kids are expected to >understand what is being said. He will have an aid who uses sign with >but still neither environment is what needs just something they are >doing to try to meet at least some of his needs. In the end if they can't >give me a good alternative to being in the traler we are going to fight to >leave the district. Thanks for listening. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 , there are classroom standards for background noise and reverberation time - I can't believe a trailer would fit them. We had this as a major point in our due process. Look up the stds I think were dated June 2002. Also check out the yahoo classroom acoustics listserve. Those experts are very willing to support this cause. I don't have the url at my fingertips anymore but let me know if you can't find it. Betsy > >The second part of this post is regarding classroom acoustics. I just >found out from the school that they are moving my son's classroom to a >trailer. They had been planning this for some time and finally are done, >and they are so excited about it. I asked if it would be louder knowing it >would and they said the good thing is they have to keep the class size down >because it is a smaller room. Now I have been in the mobil classrooms and >they are really noisy especially when it is windy or raining. I also >looked on line about classroom acoustics and they mention it is a good idea >to keep classrooms away from the street, away from any type of field where >kids play or play grounds. Well this class is right next to the parking >lot, a field where kids have PE and the play ground, there is not one side >of it where there is not a lot of trafic around. So not only are we >talking about a trailer usually with even the optimal amount of insulation >is loud and not by any means a noise reducing environment if anything it is >the oppisite, but then they put it in an area of the school where there is >the most trafic and noise. I met with our case manager today and we >discussed this and have an IEP meeting scheduled and if they can't come up >with reasonable accomidations we are planning on asking them to send him >out of district, because they don't have an appropriate class for him. By >that I'm not just talking about classroom acoustics but also the fact that >he is in a class for severely handicapped kids and they are planning on >transfering him part of the day to another class with speech delayed kids >the teacher and the kids do not sign and the kids are expected to >understand what is being said. He will have an aid who uses sign with >but still neither environment is what needs just something they are >doing to try to meet at least some of his needs. In the end if they can't >give me a good alternative to being in the traler we are going to fight to >leave the district. Thanks for listening. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Betsy, Thanks, I don't know if the trailers are much better than what they used to be but about 5 years ago I had my own mobil home with the newest technology in insulation and a tiled roof and still with the best there was it was noisy especially when raining and or windy. So I can't imagine that the classrooms would be built better than my home was and am pretty sure it wouldn't be as quiet as my home was. I will do a google search for yahoo groups and classroom acoustics, that should bring it up. Thank you so much. RE: classroom acoustics > > , > > there are classroom standards for background noise and reverberation time - > I can't believe a trailer would fit them. We had this as a major point in > our due process. Look up the stds I think were dated June 2002. Also check > out the yahoo classroom acoustics listserve. Those experts are very willing > to support this cause. > > I don't have the url at my fingertips anymore but let me know if you can't > find it. > > Betsy > > > >The second part of this post is regarding classroom acoustics. I just > >found out from the school that they are moving my son's classroom to a > >trailer. They had been planning this for some time and finally are done, > >and they are so excited about it. I asked if it would be louder knowing it > >would and they said the good thing is they have to keep the class size down > >because it is a smaller room. Now I have been in the mobil classrooms and > >they are really noisy especially when it is windy or raining. I also > >looked on line about classroom acoustics and they mention it is a good idea > >to keep classrooms away from the street, away from any type of field where > >kids play or play grounds. Well this class is right next to the parking > >lot, a field where kids have PE and the play ground, there is not one side > >of it where there is not a lot of trafic around. So not only are we > >talking about a trailer usually with even the optimal amount of insulation > >is loud and not by any means a noise reducing environment if anything it is > >the oppisite, but then they put it in an area of the school where there is > >the most trafic and noise. I met with our case manager today and we > >discussed this and have an IEP meeting scheduled and if they can't come up > >with reasonable accomidations we are planning on asking them to send him > >out of district, because they don't have an appropriate class for him. By > >that I'm not just talking about classroom acoustics but also the fact that > >he is in a class for severely handicapped kids and they are planning on > >transfering him part of the day to another class with speech delayed kids > >the teacher and the kids do not sign and the kids are expected to > >understand what is being said. He will have an aid who uses sign with > >but still neither environment is what needs just something they are > >doing to try to meet at least some of his needs. In the end if they can't > >give me a good alternative to being in the traler we are going to fight to > >leave the district. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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