Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 those ranges look really good. I would leave it alone. judge on how you feel not the TSH especially. nne > > I got my latest blood test results today. I am taking > 150mcg of T4 and 20mcg of T3. My Thyroid doc wants me > to increase to 40mcg of T3. > > TSH 0.1 (Range 0.25 - 5) > FT3 2.6 (Range 1.2 - 2.8) > FT4 18 (Range 9 - 19) > > Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16) > > I asked for my iron levels to be checked as I have > been losing hair, but it seems that the lab only > tested Haemoglobin. It looks better than I thought it > might be especially since I'm a vegetarian. > The clinical biologist at the lab had attached a note > stating that I am " over replaced with T4 and T3 " . > My GP is very confused since I am so well with no > symptoms of hyper but he says my TSH is " far too low " . > Thankfully he has decided to go on prescribing at the > same level. He huffed and puffed and muttered that > giving T3 is " very irregular " (it is not usual > practice in the UK). > >1 I might try and reduce the T4 to 125mcg and up the T3 > to 40mcg, but since I do run out of steam in the early > evening perhaps I should keep the T4 at the level it > is now? In the UK the smallest dose of T4 is 25mcg and > the smallest T3 tab is 20mcg. > Any comments? > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 How long before taking your last dose and the blood draw? About how much do you weigh? Those numbers seem really high for that dose of T4 and T3, unless you're a really petite person... I'm wondering about hormone resistance or something... or if you took your meds too close to the time of the draw..... The T3 could be a tweak higher.... but the T4 seems really high, comparatively.. like your body isn't converting well.... but that might be from taking such a high dose of T3..... Hmmmm what caused you to increase the T3 so much rather than work on improving conversion.... Not judging.. just wondering what lead to that decision..... Topper () On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) writes: I got my latest blood test results today. I am taking150mcg of T4 and 20mcg of T3. My Thyroid doc wants meto increase to 40mcg of T3.TSH 0.1 (Range 0.25 - 5)FT3 2.6 (Range 1.2 - 2.8)FT4 18 (Range 9 - 19)Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16)I asked for my iron levels to be checked as I havebeen losing hair, but it seems that the lab onlytested Haemoglobin. It looks better than I thought itmight be especially since I'm a vegetarian.The clinical biologist at the lab had attached a notestating that I am "over replaced with T4 and T3".My GP is very confused since I am so well with nosymptoms of hyper but he says my TSH is "far too low".Thankfully he has decided to go on prescribing at thesame level. He huffed and puffed and muttered thatgiving T3 is "very irregular" (it is not usualpractice in the UK).I might try and reduce the T4 to 125mcg and up the T3to 40mcg, but since I do run out of steam in the earlyevening perhaps I should keep the T4 at the level itis now? In the UK the smallest dose of T4 is 25mcg andthe smallest T3 tab is 20mcg.Any comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on the morning of the test I waited until after the blood had been drawn. Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my FT4 was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in the expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough conversion to take place. I have been eating sensibly, regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg of T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't feel good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add in T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August but the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. I have been a little anxious about upping the T3 without seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut back if I feel hyper symptoms. I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20 years and the tests always showed 'in range' until two and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then with masses of other horrible symptoms and still my TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone resistance. --- topper2@... wrote: > How long before taking your last dose and the blood > draw? > > About how much do you weigh? > > Those numbers seem really high for that dose of T4 > and T3, unless you're > a really petite person... I'm wondering about > hormone resistance or > something... or if you took your meds too close to > the time of the > draw..... > > The T3 could be a tweak higher.... but the T4 seems > really high, > comparatively.. like your body isn't converting > well.... but that might > be from taking such a high dose of T3..... > > Hmmmm what caused you to increase the T3 so much > rather than work on > improving conversion.... Not judging.. just > wondering what lead to that > decision..... > > Topper () > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) > > writes: > I got my latest blood test results today. I am > taking > 150mcg of T4 and 20mcg of T3. My Thyroid doc wants > me > to increase to 40mcg of T3. > > TSH 0.1 (Range 0.25 - 5) > FT3 2.6 (Range 1.2 - 2.8) > FT4 18 (Range 9 - 19) > > Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16) > > I asked for my iron levels to be checked as I have > been losing hair, but it seems that the lab only > tested Haemoglobin. It looks better than I thought > it > might be especially since I'm a vegetarian. > The clinical biologist at the lab had attached a > note > stating that I am " over replaced with T4 and T3 " . > My GP is very confused since I am so well with no > symptoms of hyper but he says my TSH is " far too > low " . > Thankfully he has decided to go on prescribing at > the > same level. He huffed and puffed and muttered that > giving T3 is " very irregular " (it is not usual > practice in the UK). > > I might try and reduce the T4 to 125mcg and up the > T3 > to 40mcg, but since I do run out of steam in the > early > evening perhaps I should keep the T4 at the level it > is now? In the UK the smallest dose of T4 is 25mcg > and > the smallest T3 tab is 20mcg. > Any comments? > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 So the logic is sound.... and you held the meds until after the blood draw.... How about when you take the meds... you take ALL of the T3 in the morning as well? I wonder... perhaps... maybe... if you split the T3 dose ( I know of someone that takes the T3 sublingually, it's working for her) into two or three times per day, spreading out the T3.. .that it might help? There are two trains of thought with T3 replacement... Some folks do best with taking the full dose all at once.... it seems, for them, that fully saturating the T3 receptors gets their bodies off to the right start for the day and then conversion takes over when the T3 that was taken is all 'assigned' and more is needed. For others, like me... we need small amounts of T3 throughout the day to keep the 'major' stuff working, and then our conversion fills in the blanks..... Might be something to consider... I've seen a few folks, like me.. that once we find the right timing for this stuff.. then the body starts kicking back in better and filling in the gaps.... Might be worth playing with... if it's not right for you, since T3 is so fast acting, you'll know if it helps you to feel better or not in just a day or two.... it's not like you have to do a long drawn out test. How do you feel now, during the day... do you 'slow down' as the day progresses? Is there any particular time that you might notice that you aren't as alert or ambitious as your were earlier in the day? Topper () On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) writes: I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on themorning of the test I waited until after the blood hadbeen drawn.Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my FT4was in the middle of the range but T3 was at thebottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in theexpectation that the extra T4 would enable enoughconversion to take place. I have been eating sensibly,regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg ofT4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't feelgood. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add inT3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August butthe lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. Ihave been a little anxious about upping the T3 withoutseeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cutback if I feel hyper symptoms.I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20years and the tests always showed 'in range' until twoand a half years ago. I was unable to walk by thenwith masses of other horrible symptoms and still myTSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormoneresistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in the morning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn't seem to make much difference. When the days were very short and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 in the morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime. That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine last summer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just need the extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of the winter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD; it has occured to me that it might have been lack of T3 that was causing the problem then. I've since read articles that link the two conditions. The worst time for me is mid afternoon and early evening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and when I'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke up just before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at the computer and tipped out of my chair! I hate evening meetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also hate falling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc. I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back to work....... but I am so much better when on school holiday! I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will do that. I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing the full dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc recommended and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would be most displeased to discover that I am varying the dose myself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing strategy then tell him! Thanks for chewing this over with me! --- topper2@... wrote: > So the logic is sound.... and you held the meds > until after the blood > draw.... > > How about when you take the meds... you take ALL of > the T3 in the morning > as well? > > I wonder... perhaps... maybe... if you split the T3 > dose ( I know of > someone that takes the T3 sublingually, it's working > for her) into two or > three times per day, spreading out the T3.. .that it > might help? > > There are two trains of thought with T3 > replacement... > > Some folks do best with taking the full dose all at > once.... it seems, > for them, that fully saturating the T3 receptors > gets their bodies off to > the right start for the day and then conversion > takes over when the T3 > that was taken is all 'assigned' and more is needed. > > For others, like me... we need small amounts of T3 > throughout the day to > keep the 'major' stuff working, and then our > conversion fills in the > blanks..... > > Might be something to consider... > > I've seen a few folks, like me.. that once we find > the right timing for > this stuff.. then the body starts kicking back in > better and filling in > the gaps.... > > Might be worth playing with... if it's not right for > you, since T3 is so > fast acting, you'll know if it helps you to feel > better or not in just a > day or two.... it's not like you have to do a long > drawn out test. > > How do you feel now, during the day... do you 'slow > down' as the day > progresses? Is there any particular time that you > might notice that you > aren't as alert or ambitious as your were earlier in > the day? > > Topper () > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) > > writes: > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on > the > morning of the test I waited until after the blood > had > been drawn. > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my > FT4 > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in the > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > conversion to take place. I have been eating > sensibly, > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg > of > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't > feel > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add > in > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August but > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. > I > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 > without > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20 > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until > two > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still my > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > resistance. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in the morning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn't seem to make much difference. When the days were very short and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 in the morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime. That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine last summer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just need the extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of the winter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD; it has occured to me that it might have been lack of T3 that was causing the problem then. I've since read articles that link the two conditions. The worst time for me is mid afternoon and early evening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and when I'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke up just before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at the computer and tipped out of my chair! I hate evening meetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also hate falling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc. I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back to work....... but I am so much better when on school holiday! I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will do that. I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing the full dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc recommended and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would be most displeased to discover that I am varying the dose myself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing strategy then tell him! Thanks for chewing this over with me! --- topper2@... wrote: > So the logic is sound.... and you held the meds > until after the blood > draw.... > > How about when you take the meds... you take ALL of > the T3 in the morning > as well? > > I wonder... perhaps... maybe... if you split the T3 > dose ( I know of > someone that takes the T3 sublingually, it's working > for her) into two or > three times per day, spreading out the T3.. .that it > might help? > > There are two trains of thought with T3 > replacement... > > Some folks do best with taking the full dose all at > once.... it seems, > for them, that fully saturating the T3 receptors > gets their bodies off to > the right start for the day and then conversion > takes over when the T3 > that was taken is all 'assigned' and more is needed. > > For others, like me... we need small amounts of T3 > throughout the day to > keep the 'major' stuff working, and then our > conversion fills in the > blanks..... > > Might be something to consider... > > I've seen a few folks, like me.. that once we find > the right timing for > this stuff.. then the body starts kicking back in > better and filling in > the gaps.... > > Might be worth playing with... if it's not right for > you, since T3 is so > fast acting, you'll know if it helps you to feel > better or not in just a > day or two.... it's not like you have to do a long > drawn out test. > > How do you feel now, during the day... do you 'slow > down' as the day > progresses? Is there any particular time that you > might notice that you > aren't as alert or ambitious as your were earlier in > the day? > > Topper () > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) > > writes: > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on > the > morning of the test I waited until after the blood > had > been drawn. > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my > FT4 > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in the > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > conversion to take place. I have been eating > sensibly, > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg > of > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't > feel > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add > in > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August but > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. > I > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 > without > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20 > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until > two > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still my > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > resistance. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I forgot to add that I have put on 5lbs in weight since Christmas. This doesn't worry me at all since it always happens at this time of year and I guess I'll lose it again when the weather warms up. This is also an indicator that I might need more replacement during the winter? --- wrote: > > I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in > the > morning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn't > seem to make much difference. When the days were > very > short and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 > in > the morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime. > That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine last > summer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just > need > the extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of the > winter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD; > it has occured to me that it might have been lack of > T3 that was causing the problem then. I've since > read > articles that link the two conditions. > The worst time for me is mid afternoon and early > evening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and > when > I'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke up > just before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at > the > computer and tipped out of my chair! I hate evening > meetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also > hate > falling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc. > I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back > to > work....... but I am so much better when on school > holiday! > I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will > do > that. > I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing > the > full dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc > recommended > and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would be > most displeased to discover that I am varying the > dose > myself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing > strategy > then tell him! > Thanks for chewing this over with me! > > > > > --- topper2@... wrote: > > > So the logic is sound.... and you held the meds > > until after the blood > > draw.... > > > > How about when you take the meds... you take ALL > of > > the T3 in the morning > > as well? > > > > I wonder... perhaps... maybe... if you split the > T3 > > dose ( I know of > > someone that takes the T3 sublingually, it's > working > > for her) into two or > > three times per day, spreading out the T3.. .that > it > > might help? > > > > There are two trains of thought with T3 > > replacement... > > > > Some folks do best with taking the full dose all > at > > once.... it seems, > > for them, that fully saturating the T3 receptors > > gets their bodies off to > > the right start for the day and then conversion > > takes over when the T3 > > that was taken is all 'assigned' and more is > needed. > > > > For others, like me... we need small amounts of T3 > > throughout the day to > > keep the 'major' stuff working, and then our > > conversion fills in the > > blanks..... > > > > Might be something to consider... > > > > I've seen a few folks, like me.. that once we find > > the right timing for > > this stuff.. then the body starts kicking back in > > better and filling in > > the gaps.... > > > > Might be worth playing with... if it's not right > for > > you, since T3 is so > > fast acting, you'll know if it helps you to feel > > better or not in just a > > day or two.... it's not like you have to do a long > > drawn out test. > > > > How do you feel now, during the day... do you > 'slow > > down' as the day > > progresses? Is there any particular time that you > > might notice that you > > aren't as alert or ambitious as your were earlier > in > > the day? > > > > Topper () > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > writes: > > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on > > the > > morning of the test I waited until after the blood > > had > > been drawn. > > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my > > FT4 > > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in > the > > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > > conversion to take place. I have been eating > > sensibly, > > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg > > of > > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't > > feel > > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add > > in > > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August > but > > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this > month. > > I > > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 > > without > > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need > the > > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around > 20 > > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until > > two > > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still > my > > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > > resistance. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I forgot to add that I have put on 5lbs in weight since Christmas. This doesn't worry me at all since it always happens at this time of year and I guess I'll lose it again when the weather warms up. This is also an indicator that I might need more replacement during the winter? --- wrote: > > I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in > the > morning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn't > seem to make much difference. When the days were > very > short and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 > in > the morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime. > That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine last > summer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just > need > the extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of the > winter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD; > it has occured to me that it might have been lack of > T3 that was causing the problem then. I've since > read > articles that link the two conditions. > The worst time for me is mid afternoon and early > evening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and > when > I'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke up > just before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at > the > computer and tipped out of my chair! I hate evening > meetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also > hate > falling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc. > I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back > to > work....... but I am so much better when on school > holiday! > I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will > do > that. > I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing > the > full dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc > recommended > and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would be > most displeased to discover that I am varying the > dose > myself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing > strategy > then tell him! > Thanks for chewing this over with me! > > > > > --- topper2@... wrote: > > > So the logic is sound.... and you held the meds > > until after the blood > > draw.... > > > > How about when you take the meds... you take ALL > of > > the T3 in the morning > > as well? > > > > I wonder... perhaps... maybe... if you split the > T3 > > dose ( I know of > > someone that takes the T3 sublingually, it's > working > > for her) into two or > > three times per day, spreading out the T3.. .that > it > > might help? > > > > There are two trains of thought with T3 > > replacement... > > > > Some folks do best with taking the full dose all > at > > once.... it seems, > > for them, that fully saturating the T3 receptors > > gets their bodies off to > > the right start for the day and then conversion > > takes over when the T3 > > that was taken is all 'assigned' and more is > needed. > > > > For others, like me... we need small amounts of T3 > > throughout the day to > > keep the 'major' stuff working, and then our > > conversion fills in the > > blanks..... > > > > Might be something to consider... > > > > I've seen a few folks, like me.. that once we find > > the right timing for > > this stuff.. then the body starts kicking back in > > better and filling in > > the gaps.... > > > > Might be worth playing with... if it's not right > for > > you, since T3 is so > > fast acting, you'll know if it helps you to feel > > better or not in just a > > day or two.... it's not like you have to do a long > > drawn out test. > > > > How do you feel now, during the day... do you > 'slow > > down' as the day > > progresses? Is there any particular time that you > > might notice that you > > aren't as alert or ambitious as your were earlier > in > > the day? > > > > Topper () > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > writes: > > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on > > the > > morning of the test I waited until after the blood > > had > > been drawn. > > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my > > FT4 > > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in > the > > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > > conversion to take place. I have been eating > > sensibly, > > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg > > of > > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't > > feel > > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add > > in > > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August > but > > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this > month. > > I > > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 > > without > > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need > the > > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around > 20 > > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until > > two > > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still > my > > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > > resistance. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I forgot to add that I have put on 5lbs in weight since Christmas. This doesn't worry me at all since it always happens at this time of year and I guess I'll lose it again when the weather warms up. This is also an indicator that I might need more replacement during the winter? --- wrote: > > I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in > the > morning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn't > seem to make much difference. When the days were > very > short and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 > in > the morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime. > That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine last > summer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just > need > the extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of the > winter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD; > it has occured to me that it might have been lack of > T3 that was causing the problem then. I've since > read > articles that link the two conditions. > The worst time for me is mid afternoon and early > evening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and > when > I'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke up > just before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at > the > computer and tipped out of my chair! I hate evening > meetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also > hate > falling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc. > I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back > to > work....... but I am so much better when on school > holiday! > I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will > do > that. > I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing > the > full dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc > recommended > and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would be > most displeased to discover that I am varying the > dose > myself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing > strategy > then tell him! > Thanks for chewing this over with me! > > > > > --- topper2@... wrote: > > > So the logic is sound.... and you held the meds > > until after the blood > > draw.... > > > > How about when you take the meds... you take ALL > of > > the T3 in the morning > > as well? > > > > I wonder... perhaps... maybe... if you split the > T3 > > dose ( I know of > > someone that takes the T3 sublingually, it's > working > > for her) into two or > > three times per day, spreading out the T3.. .that > it > > might help? > > > > There are two trains of thought with T3 > > replacement... > > > > Some folks do best with taking the full dose all > at > > once.... it seems, > > for them, that fully saturating the T3 receptors > > gets their bodies off to > > the right start for the day and then conversion > > takes over when the T3 > > that was taken is all 'assigned' and more is > needed. > > > > For others, like me... we need small amounts of T3 > > throughout the day to > > keep the 'major' stuff working, and then our > > conversion fills in the > > blanks..... > > > > Might be something to consider... > > > > I've seen a few folks, like me.. that once we find > > the right timing for > > this stuff.. then the body starts kicking back in > > better and filling in > > the gaps.... > > > > Might be worth playing with... if it's not right > for > > you, since T3 is so > > fast acting, you'll know if it helps you to feel > > better or not in just a > > day or two.... it's not like you have to do a long > > drawn out test. > > > > How do you feel now, during the day... do you > 'slow > > down' as the day > > progresses? Is there any particular time that you > > might notice that you > > aren't as alert or ambitious as your were earlier > in > > the day? > > > > Topper () > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > writes: > > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on > > the > > morning of the test I waited until after the blood > > had > > been drawn. > > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my > > FT4 > > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in > the > > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > > conversion to take place. I have been eating > > sensibly, > > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg > > of > > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't > > feel > > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add > > in > > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August > but > > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this > month. > > I > > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 > > without > > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need > the > > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around > 20 > > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until > > two > > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still > my > > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > > resistance. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 If you were swallowing the second dose of T3, if you had food in your tummy.. it might not have gotten good absorption.... But your afternoon slump.. the falling asleep while at the computer and doing the 'tip and catch'.. that's the kind of stuff that happened to me when I forgot a dose... I'd be nodding off, or fall asleep completely if I'm much over an hour late... often with little or no warning... not like a narcoleptic, I don't pass out... but I don't notice that I'm so tired and will just doze off.... I've actually waken while holding down the mouse button in mid click.... I wake, release my finger and watch the screen change.... That's greatly improved over the last year, though... I'll still get really tired.. but can usually spot what is going on, check the clock, check my pill box and see that I've missed one... I pop the little bugger under my tongue and I'm good to go (I'm dosing with natural, an Armour clone) It wouldn't hurt to try multidosing.... take it about an hour or so before you've been hitting that slump... and see if that helps... if that is what your body needs.. the T3 spread out more to get your body working better... that might get your conversion going better. The craving of sweets.. that's the body trying to get quick energy to keep going when the T3 is running low. It's making more sense now... your body is still giving you clues that it needs your help... you just have to figure out what the clues mean.... Topper () On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:18:24 -0800 (PST) writes: I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in themorning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn'tseem to make much difference. When the days were veryshort and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 inthe morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime.That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine lastsummer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just needthe extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of thewinter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD;it has occured to me that it might have been lack ofT3 that was causing the problem then. I've since readarticles that link the two conditions.The worst time for me is mid afternoon and earlyevening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and whenI'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke upjust before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at thecomputer and tipped out of my chair! I hate eveningmeetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also hatefalling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc.I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back towork....... but I am so much better when on schoolholiday!I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will dothat.I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing thefull dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc recommended and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would bemost displeased to discover that I am varying the dosemyself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing strategythen tell him!Thanks for chewing this over with me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 If you were swallowing the second dose of T3, if you had food in your tummy.. it might not have gotten good absorption.... But your afternoon slump.. the falling asleep while at the computer and doing the 'tip and catch'.. that's the kind of stuff that happened to me when I forgot a dose... I'd be nodding off, or fall asleep completely if I'm much over an hour late... often with little or no warning... not like a narcoleptic, I don't pass out... but I don't notice that I'm so tired and will just doze off.... I've actually waken while holding down the mouse button in mid click.... I wake, release my finger and watch the screen change.... That's greatly improved over the last year, though... I'll still get really tired.. but can usually spot what is going on, check the clock, check my pill box and see that I've missed one... I pop the little bugger under my tongue and I'm good to go (I'm dosing with natural, an Armour clone) It wouldn't hurt to try multidosing.... take it about an hour or so before you've been hitting that slump... and see if that helps... if that is what your body needs.. the T3 spread out more to get your body working better... that might get your conversion going better. The craving of sweets.. that's the body trying to get quick energy to keep going when the T3 is running low. It's making more sense now... your body is still giving you clues that it needs your help... you just have to figure out what the clues mean.... Topper () On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:18:24 -0800 (PST) writes: I have tried splitting the T3 and taking 10mcg in themorning and the other 10mcg at lunchtime. It didn'tseem to make much difference. When the days were veryshort and dark I took my 150mcg of T4, 20mcg of T3 inthe morning then another 10mcg of T3 at lunchtime.That stopped the afternoon slump. I was fine lastsummer and early autumn; I'm wondering if I just needthe extra T3 during the darkest coldest days of thewinter. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with SAD;it has occured to me that it might have been lack ofT3 that was causing the problem then. I've since readarticles that link the two conditions.The worst time for me is mid afternoon and earlyevening. Sometimes I crash quite spectaculaly and whenI'm like this I crave sweet things. Once I woke upjust before I hit the floor: I'd fallen asleep at thecomputer and tipped out of my chair! I hate eveningmeetings because I yawn uncontrollably and I also hatefalling asleep because it messes up bedtime etc.I'm really lucky that I got well enough to go back towork....... but I am so much better when on schoolholiday!I haven't tried taking the T3 sublingually, I will dothat.I can't tell my GP any of this. He is prescribing thefull dose of T4 & T3 that the thyroid doc recommended and he doesn't approve of T3 anyway so he would bemost displeased to discover that I am varying the dosemyself. I hoped to work out an optimum dosing strategythen tell him!Thanks for chewing this over with me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I forgot that you mentioned the SAD in the other post.... I had trouble with that for years... this room is actually set up to accommodate that... the winter sun comes in a window next to my desk and a bit forward, the sunrise lights up the side of my face and will stay that way through most of the morning... Giving my hypothalamus the stimulation it needs... works good when we have sun, which is a bit shy through November and December in my part of town.... and when I don't have the shades pulled, of course.... Normal body cycles tend to have us putting on weight and being more quiet in the winter months, allowing us to keep warm and settle in to sleep during the longer nights... so that cycle is not unusual.... We've discussed before about the need for extra T3 during the winter to help keep up metabolic rate for warmth and to keep the mood better with so much darkness... you may be a sample of that. From my research, 20 to 30 minutes of sunlight a day is supposed to keep the hypothalamus properly stimulated, for those that are sensitive to SAD.. if using artificial light it's more like 8 hours of exposure... Ideally the light should now be directly in the eyes, obviously with the sun, but also with the artificial light... it should be to the side or above the head and slightly in front.... My mom had severe problems with SAD after her brain surgery to clip a leaking aneurysm. We ended up rigging the house with lights... Full spectrum florescents set up over the TVs so that when she was watching she would get her exposure.... that's where I found out that it helped me, too. In my homes, after that, I always set up a chair in the winter time to be in front of a window .. that would be my reading chair.. used as often as possible for my 'sun time'. Of course, once I built the greenhouse I was doing GREAT, outside all the time.... Now, here..I arranged the room to allow the sun to whap me on the side of my face all winter... In the summer the angle of the sun changes and the tree leafs out and this room is then shady... I can actually get more 'blue' in the summer shade than I do in the winter. Topper () On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:28:07 -0800 (PST) writes: I forgot to add that I have put on 5lbs in weightsince Christmas. This doesn't worry me at all since italways happens at this time of year and I guess I'lllose it again when the weather warms up. This is alsoan indicator that I might need more replacement duringthe winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I forgot that you mentioned the SAD in the other post.... I had trouble with that for years... this room is actually set up to accommodate that... the winter sun comes in a window next to my desk and a bit forward, the sunrise lights up the side of my face and will stay that way through most of the morning... Giving my hypothalamus the stimulation it needs... works good when we have sun, which is a bit shy through November and December in my part of town.... and when I don't have the shades pulled, of course.... Normal body cycles tend to have us putting on weight and being more quiet in the winter months, allowing us to keep warm and settle in to sleep during the longer nights... so that cycle is not unusual.... We've discussed before about the need for extra T3 during the winter to help keep up metabolic rate for warmth and to keep the mood better with so much darkness... you may be a sample of that. From my research, 20 to 30 minutes of sunlight a day is supposed to keep the hypothalamus properly stimulated, for those that are sensitive to SAD.. if using artificial light it's more like 8 hours of exposure... Ideally the light should now be directly in the eyes, obviously with the sun, but also with the artificial light... it should be to the side or above the head and slightly in front.... My mom had severe problems with SAD after her brain surgery to clip a leaking aneurysm. We ended up rigging the house with lights... Full spectrum florescents set up over the TVs so that when she was watching she would get her exposure.... that's where I found out that it helped me, too. In my homes, after that, I always set up a chair in the winter time to be in front of a window .. that would be my reading chair.. used as often as possible for my 'sun time'. Of course, once I built the greenhouse I was doing GREAT, outside all the time.... Now, here..I arranged the room to allow the sun to whap me on the side of my face all winter... In the summer the angle of the sun changes and the tree leafs out and this room is then shady... I can actually get more 'blue' in the summer shade than I do in the winter. Topper () On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:28:07 -0800 (PST) writes: I forgot to add that I have put on 5lbs in weightsince Christmas. This doesn't worry me at all since italways happens at this time of year and I guess I'lllose it again when the weather warms up. This is alsoan indicator that I might need more replacement duringthe winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 First question and very important----How long were you on this dose before testing again (the 150 mcgs T4 and the 20 mcgs of T3)?? You need to go back to that doc and tell him that you want a Ferritin test run immediately, as they didn't run the right test for the storage form of iron. Hg shortage would mean that an anemia has reached an advanced stage, but it never tells what KIND of anemia. Doc doesn't know what he's doing with this. Blood Test Results > I got my latest blood test results today. I am taking > 150mcg of T4 and 20mcg of T3. My Thyroid doc wants me > to increase to 40mcg of T3. > > TSH 0.1 (Range 0.25 - 5) > FT3 2.6 (Range 1.2 - 2.8) > FT4 18 (Range 9 - 19) > > Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16) > > I asked for my iron levels to be checked as I have > been losing hair, but it seems that the lab only > tested Haemoglobin. It looks better than I thought it > might be especially since I'm a vegetarian. > The clinical biologist at the lab had attached a note > stating that I am " over replaced with T4 and T3 " . > My GP is very confused since I am so well with no > symptoms of hyper but he says my TSH is " far too low " . > Thankfully he has decided to go on prescribing at the > same level. He huffed and puffed and muttered that > giving T3 is " very irregular " (it is not usual > practice in the UK). > > I might try and reduce the T4 to 125mcg and up the T3 > to 40mcg, but since I do run out of steam in the early > evening perhaps I should keep the T4 at the level it > is now? In the UK the smallest dose of T4 is 25mcg and > the smallest T3 tab is 20mcg. > Any comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 First question and very important----How long were you on this dose before testing again (the 150 mcgs T4 and the 20 mcgs of T3)?? You need to go back to that doc and tell him that you want a Ferritin test run immediately, as they didn't run the right test for the storage form of iron. Hg shortage would mean that an anemia has reached an advanced stage, but it never tells what KIND of anemia. Doc doesn't know what he's doing with this. Blood Test Results > I got my latest blood test results today. I am taking > 150mcg of T4 and 20mcg of T3. My Thyroid doc wants me > to increase to 40mcg of T3. > > TSH 0.1 (Range 0.25 - 5) > FT3 2.6 (Range 1.2 - 2.8) > FT4 18 (Range 9 - 19) > > Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16) > > I asked for my iron levels to be checked as I have > been losing hair, but it seems that the lab only > tested Haemoglobin. It looks better than I thought it > might be especially since I'm a vegetarian. > The clinical biologist at the lab had attached a note > stating that I am " over replaced with T4 and T3 " . > My GP is very confused since I am so well with no > symptoms of hyper but he says my TSH is " far too low " . > Thankfully he has decided to go on prescribing at the > same level. He huffed and puffed and muttered that > giving T3 is " very irregular " (it is not usual > practice in the UK). > > I might try and reduce the T4 to 125mcg and up the T3 > to 40mcg, but since I do run out of steam in the early > evening perhaps I should keep the T4 at the level it > is now? In the UK the smallest dose of T4 is 25mcg and > the smallest T3 tab is 20mcg. > Any comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 First question and very important----How long were you on this dose before testing again (the 150 mcgs T4 and the 20 mcgs of T3)?? You need to go back to that doc and tell him that you want a Ferritin test run immediately, as they didn't run the right test for the storage form of iron. Hg shortage would mean that an anemia has reached an advanced stage, but it never tells what KIND of anemia. Doc doesn't know what he's doing with this. Blood Test Results > I got my latest blood test results today. I am taking > 150mcg of T4 and 20mcg of T3. My Thyroid doc wants me > to increase to 40mcg of T3. > > TSH 0.1 (Range 0.25 - 5) > FT3 2.6 (Range 1.2 - 2.8) > FT4 18 (Range 9 - 19) > > Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16) > > I asked for my iron levels to be checked as I have > been losing hair, but it seems that the lab only > tested Haemoglobin. It looks better than I thought it > might be especially since I'm a vegetarian. > The clinical biologist at the lab had attached a note > stating that I am " over replaced with T4 and T3 " . > My GP is very confused since I am so well with no > symptoms of hyper but he says my TSH is " far too low " . > Thankfully he has decided to go on prescribing at the > same level. He huffed and puffed and muttered that > giving T3 is " very irregular " (it is not usual > practice in the UK). > > I might try and reduce the T4 to 125mcg and up the T3 > to 40mcg, but since I do run out of steam in the early > evening perhaps I should keep the T4 at the level it > is now? In the UK the smallest dose of T4 is 25mcg and > the smallest T3 tab is 20mcg. > Any comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Think back in time. Have you EVER been chemically poisoned or maybe worked somewhere where it would have been likely to be sensitized to chemicals, as in insecticides, industrial chemicals, and the like? Most people that I've seen who need these whopping amts for it to eve present in their blood, let alone their body cells, and who are your tiny size, have been chemically poisoned, with cellular damage, to where their cells can't soak up the thyroid hormone. Also, do you eat right after or right before taking your T4? The T3 wouldn't matter so much to eat with it, but the synthetic T4 has to have out and out stomach acid in order to be digested and broken down properly. Otherwise, you would be taking it for nothing. Also, because of this situation, it looks like MAYBE you have more bound hormone than Free T3, after taking this much T3. This is the ONLY way that a Total T3 would be in order because, if you take estrogen or anything that binds it up, it is useless. What other meds are you on? Re: Blood Test Results > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on the > morning of the test I waited until after the blood had > been drawn. > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my FT4 > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in the > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > conversion to take place. I have been eating sensibly, > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg of > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't feel > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add in > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August but > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. I > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 without > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20 > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until two > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still my > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > resistance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Think back in time. Have you EVER been chemically poisoned or maybe worked somewhere where it would have been likely to be sensitized to chemicals, as in insecticides, industrial chemicals, and the like? Most people that I've seen who need these whopping amts for it to eve present in their blood, let alone their body cells, and who are your tiny size, have been chemically poisoned, with cellular damage, to where their cells can't soak up the thyroid hormone. Also, do you eat right after or right before taking your T4? The T3 wouldn't matter so much to eat with it, but the synthetic T4 has to have out and out stomach acid in order to be digested and broken down properly. Otherwise, you would be taking it for nothing. Also, because of this situation, it looks like MAYBE you have more bound hormone than Free T3, after taking this much T3. This is the ONLY way that a Total T3 would be in order because, if you take estrogen or anything that binds it up, it is useless. What other meds are you on? Re: Blood Test Results > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on the > morning of the test I waited until after the blood had > been drawn. > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my FT4 > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in the > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > conversion to take place. I have been eating sensibly, > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg of > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't feel > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add in > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August but > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. I > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 without > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20 > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until two > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still my > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > resistance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Think back in time. Have you EVER been chemically poisoned or maybe worked somewhere where it would have been likely to be sensitized to chemicals, as in insecticides, industrial chemicals, and the like? Most people that I've seen who need these whopping amts for it to eve present in their blood, let alone their body cells, and who are your tiny size, have been chemically poisoned, with cellular damage, to where their cells can't soak up the thyroid hormone. Also, do you eat right after or right before taking your T4? The T3 wouldn't matter so much to eat with it, but the synthetic T4 has to have out and out stomach acid in order to be digested and broken down properly. Otherwise, you would be taking it for nothing. Also, because of this situation, it looks like MAYBE you have more bound hormone than Free T3, after taking this much T3. This is the ONLY way that a Total T3 would be in order because, if you take estrogen or anything that binds it up, it is useless. What other meds are you on? Re: Blood Test Results > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs. > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on the > morning of the test I waited until after the blood had > been drawn. > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my FT4 > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in the > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough > conversion to take place. I have been eating sensibly, > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg of > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't feel > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add in > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August but > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this month. I > have been a little anxious about upping the T3 without > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need the > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut > back if I feel hyper symptoms. > > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around 20 > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until two > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still my > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone > resistance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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