Re: Blood Test Results/

February 17, 2006

Thanks for answering .

I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years I

suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my

20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden is

small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. I

am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in my

house and keep my windows closed when the tractors are

working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm a

teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission from

Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

anything that causes her to have a problem. I do have

all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

as the I became sensitive to any hair colour product.

I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds before

I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those

6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

night - also after advice from this group). Because I

was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT to

a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal now

and don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).

I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I was

drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope better

now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks since

the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

evening, do you think this could be the problem?

I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3

& 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron Nd

L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

it makes me very very constipated.

Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).

I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

level.

I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on

200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years ago

I just lacked T3?

On a slightly different note the UK government has

just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

polluted air, drink water that is laced with

chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

comparitively small issue.

--- wrote:

>

> Think back in time. Have you EVER been chemically

> poisoned or maybe worked

> somewhere where it would have been likely to be

> sensitized to chemicals, as

> in insecticides, industrial chemicals, and the like?

> Most people that I've

> seen who need these whopping amts for it to eve

> present in their blood, let

> alone their body cells, and who are your tiny size,

> have been chemically

> poisoned, with cellular damage, to where their cells

> can't soak up the

> thyroid hormone. Also, do you eat right after or

> right before taking your

> T4? The T3 wouldn't matter so much to eat with it,

> but the synthetic T4 has

> to have out and out stomach acid in order to be

> digested and broken down

> properly. Otherwise, you would be taking it for

> nothing. Also, because of

> this situation, it looks like MAYBE you have more

> bound hormone than Free

> T3, after taking this much T3. This is the ONLY way

> that a Total T3 would

> be in order because, if you take estrogen or

> anything that binds it up, it

> is useless. What other meds are you on?

>

> Re: Blood Test

> Results

>

> > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs.

> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on

> the

> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood

> had

> > been drawn.

> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my

> FT4

> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the

> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in

> the

> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough

> > conversion to take place. I have been eating

> sensibly,

> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg

> of

> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't

> feel

> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add

> in

> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August

> but

> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this

> month. I

> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3

> without

> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need

> the

> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut

> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.

> >

> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around

> 20

> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until

> two

> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then

> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still

> my

> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone

> > resistance.

> >

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

Thanks for answering .

I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years I

suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my

20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden is

small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. I

am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in my

house and keep my windows closed when the tractors are

working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm a

teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission from

Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

anything that causes her to have a problem. I do have

all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

as the I became sensitive to any hair colour product.

I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds before

I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those

6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

night - also after advice from this group). Because I

was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT to

a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal now

and don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).

I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I was

drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope better

now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks since

the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

evening, do you think this could be the problem?

I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3

& 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron Nd

L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

it makes me very very constipated.

Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).

I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

level.

I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on

200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years ago

I just lacked T3?

On a slightly different note the UK government has

just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

polluted air, drink water that is laced with

chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

comparitively small issue.

--- wrote:

>

> Think back in time. Have you EVER been chemically

> poisoned or maybe worked

> somewhere where it would have been likely to be

> sensitized to chemicals, as

> in insecticides, industrial chemicals, and the like?

> Most people that I've

> seen who need these whopping amts for it to eve

> present in their blood, let

> alone their body cells, and who are your tiny size,

> have been chemically

> poisoned, with cellular damage, to where their cells

> can't soak up the

> thyroid hormone. Also, do you eat right after or

> right before taking your

> T4? The T3 wouldn't matter so much to eat with it,

> but the synthetic T4 has

> to have out and out stomach acid in order to be

> digested and broken down

> properly. Otherwise, you would be taking it for

> nothing. Also, because of

> this situation, it looks like MAYBE you have more

> bound hormone than Free

> T3, after taking this much T3. This is the ONLY way

> that a Total T3 would

> be in order because, if you take estrogen or

> anything that binds it up, it

> is useless. What other meds are you on?

>

> Re: Blood Test

> Results

>

> > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs.

> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on

> the

> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood

> had

> > been drawn.

> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my

> FT4

> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the

> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in

> the

> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough

> > conversion to take place. I have been eating

> sensibly,

> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg

> of

> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't

> feel

> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add

> in

> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August

> but

> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this

> month. I

> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3

> without

> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need

> the

> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut

> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.

> >

> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around

> 20

> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until

> two

> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then

> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still

> my

> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone

> > resistance.

> >

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

Thanks for answering .

I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years I

suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my

20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden is

small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. I

am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in my

house and keep my windows closed when the tractors are

working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm a

teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission from

Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

anything that causes her to have a problem. I do have

all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

as the I became sensitive to any hair colour product.

I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds before

I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those

6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

night - also after advice from this group). Because I

was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT to

a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal now

and don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).

I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I was

drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope better

now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks since

the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

evening, do you think this could be the problem?

I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3

& 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron Nd

L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

it makes me very very constipated.

Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).

I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

level.

I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on

200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years ago

I just lacked T3?

On a slightly different note the UK government has

just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

polluted air, drink water that is laced with

chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

comparitively small issue.

--- wrote:

>

> Think back in time. Have you EVER been chemically

> poisoned or maybe worked

> somewhere where it would have been likely to be

> sensitized to chemicals, as

> in insecticides, industrial chemicals, and the like?

> Most people that I've

> seen who need these whopping amts for it to eve

> present in their blood, let

> alone their body cells, and who are your tiny size,

> have been chemically

> poisoned, with cellular damage, to where their cells

> can't soak up the

> thyroid hormone. Also, do you eat right after or

> right before taking your

> T4? The T3 wouldn't matter so much to eat with it,

> but the synthetic T4 has

> to have out and out stomach acid in order to be

> digested and broken down

> properly. Otherwise, you would be taking it for

> nothing. Also, because of

> this situation, it looks like MAYBE you have more

> bound hormone than Free

> T3, after taking this much T3. This is the ONLY way

> that a Total T3 would

> be in order because, if you take estrogen or

> anything that binds it up, it

> is useless. What other meds are you on?

>

> Re: Blood Test

> Results

>

> > I am 5' 2 " and weigh 122lbs.

> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on

> the

> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood

> had

> > been drawn.

> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my

> FT4

> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the

> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in

> the

> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough

> > conversion to take place. I have been eating

> sensibly,

> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg

> of

> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't

> feel

> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add

> in

> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August

> but

> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this

> month. I

> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3

> without

> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need

> the

> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut

> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.

> >

> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around

> 20

> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until

> two

> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then

> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still

> my

> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone

> > resistance.

> >

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

Oh, ... a TSH of 8? Is that correct, not a typo? You were VERY hypo back then... CFS is often a diagnosis used as a cop out answer by docs that don't understand hypo... arrggghhhh I need to find that article again one of these days where they list that both CFS and Fibro came to being after the use of synthetics and TSH testing as the answer to those folks that were suffering from chronic hypo but had TSH labs that showed their magic cure T4 was curing them of low thyroid and just had come up with one of the 'new diseases'... arggghhhhh

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:29 -0800 (PST) writes:

Thanks for answering .I live in the country. When I was a child (in the1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when thefarmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foulsmelling and we were told it could harm us if webreathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, goshopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years Isuffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down toabout 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I movedback to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden issmall and there is an arable field on two sides. Ofcourse it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. Iam sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in myhouse and keep my windows closed when the tractors areworking. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm ateacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequentbouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that thecleaner has the same problem (she is in remission fromGraves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing outanything that causes her to have a problem. I do haveall sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymoreas the I became sensitive to any hair colour product. I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds beforeI eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had beentaking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior tothis test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those6months (taking a pill every other day and always atnight - also after advice from this group). Because Iwas losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT toa combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal nowand don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).I have found it impossible to cope with hot flusheswhilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 andthey were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I wasdrowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn'tbeen diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope betternow. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks sincethe last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in theevening, do you think this could be the problem?I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3 & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement calledFlorisene that is designed for women suffering fromhair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron NdL-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use asit makes me very very constipated.Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for theferritin test again as he is quite happy with thislevel. I have been thinking about conversion problems. Mybloods showed normal every time I was tested (firstthyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was soHypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and thedoc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due tohypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years agoI just lacked T3?On a slightly different note the UK government hasjust voted to ban smoking in public places. It seemsto me crazy that we are still happy to breathepolluted air, drink water that is laced withchemicals, eat food that is contaminated withchemicals and hormones and legislate over acomparitively small issue.

February 17, 2006

Oh, ... a TSH of 8? Is that correct, not a typo? You were VERY hypo back then... CFS is often a diagnosis used as a cop out answer by docs that don't understand hypo... arrggghhhh I need to find that article again one of these days where they list that both CFS and Fibro came to being after the use of synthetics and TSH testing as the answer to those folks that were suffering from chronic hypo but had TSH labs that showed their magic cure T4 was curing them of low thyroid and just had come up with one of the 'new diseases'... arggghhhhh

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:29 -0800 (PST) writes:

Thanks for answering .I live in the country. When I was a child (in the1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when thefarmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foulsmelling and we were told it could harm us if webreathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, goshopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years Isuffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down toabout 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I movedback to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden issmall and there is an arable field on two sides. Ofcourse it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. Iam sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in myhouse and keep my windows closed when the tractors areworking. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm ateacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequentbouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that thecleaner has the same problem (she is in remission fromGraves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing outanything that causes her to have a problem. I do haveall sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymoreas the I became sensitive to any hair colour product. I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds beforeI eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had beentaking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior tothis test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those6months (taking a pill every other day and always atnight - also after advice from this group). Because Iwas losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT toa combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal nowand don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).I have found it impossible to cope with hot flusheswhilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 andthey were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I wasdrowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn'tbeen diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope betternow. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks sincethe last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in theevening, do you think this could be the problem?I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3 & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement calledFlorisene that is designed for women suffering fromhair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron NdL-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use asit makes me very very constipated.Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for theferritin test again as he is quite happy with thislevel. I have been thinking about conversion problems. Mybloods showed normal every time I was tested (firstthyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was soHypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and thedoc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due tohypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years agoI just lacked T3?On a slightly different note the UK government hasjust voted to ban smoking in public places. It seemsto me crazy that we are still happy to breathepolluted air, drink water that is laced withchemicals, eat food that is contaminated withchemicals and hormones and legislate over acomparitively small issue.

February 17, 2006

Oh, ... a TSH of 8? Is that correct, not a typo? You were VERY hypo back then... CFS is often a diagnosis used as a cop out answer by docs that don't understand hypo... arrggghhhh I need to find that article again one of these days where they list that both CFS and Fibro came to being after the use of synthetics and TSH testing as the answer to those folks that were suffering from chronic hypo but had TSH labs that showed their magic cure T4 was curing them of low thyroid and just had come up with one of the 'new diseases'... arggghhhhh

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:29 -0800 (PST) writes:

Thanks for answering .I live in the country. When I was a child (in the1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when thefarmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foulsmelling and we were told it could harm us if webreathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, goshopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years Isuffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down toabout 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I movedback to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden issmall and there is an arable field on two sides. Ofcourse it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. Iam sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in myhouse and keep my windows closed when the tractors areworking. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm ateacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequentbouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that thecleaner has the same problem (she is in remission fromGraves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing outanything that causes her to have a problem. I do haveall sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymoreas the I became sensitive to any hair colour product. I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds beforeI eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had beentaking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior tothis test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those6months (taking a pill every other day and always atnight - also after advice from this group). Because Iwas losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT toa combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal nowand don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).I have found it impossible to cope with hot flusheswhilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 andthey were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I wasdrowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn'tbeen diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope betternow. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks sincethe last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in theevening, do you think this could be the problem?I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3 & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement calledFlorisene that is designed for women suffering fromhair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron NdL-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use asit makes me very very constipated.Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for theferritin test again as he is quite happy with thislevel. I have been thinking about conversion problems. Mybloods showed normal every time I was tested (firstthyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was soHypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and thedoc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due tohypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years agoI just lacked T3?On a slightly different note the UK government hasjust voted to ban smoking in public places. It seemsto me crazy that we are still happy to breathepolluted air, drink water that is laced withchemicals, eat food that is contaminated withchemicals and hormones and legislate over acomparitively small issue.

February 17, 2006

Yes it was 8. My doc said the results showed that I

had subclinical hypothyroidism and my terrible fatigue

etc couldn't be attributed to low thyroid function.

I've had fluctuating symtoms most of my adult life

becoming more severe over the last 20 years (always

worse in the winter). I do feel as though I've lost 20

years of my life (not to mention my home, marriage

etc).

I do think that T3 tests should be routine, I really

had to fight to get mine done; even this time after

6months of taking T3.

Ho hum.........

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Oh, ... a TSH of 8? Is that correct, not a

> typo? You were VERY

> hypo back then... CFS is often a diagnosis used as a

> cop out answer by

> docs that don't understand hypo... arrggghhhh I

> need to find that

> article again one of these days where they list that

> both CFS and Fibro

> came to being after the use of synthetics and TSH

> testing as the answer

> to those folks that were suffering from chronic hypo

> but had TSH labs

> that showed their magic cure T4 was curing them of

> low thyroid and just

> had come up with one of the 'new diseases'...

> arggghhhhh

>

> Topper ()

>

> ThyroPhoenix Donation Link:

>

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> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:29 -0800 (PST)

>

> writes:

> Thanks for answering .

> I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

> 1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

> farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

> smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

> breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

> shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years

> I

> suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during

> my

> 20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

> about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

> back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden

> is

> small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

> course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide.

> I

> am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in

> my

> house and keep my windows closed when the tractors

> are

> working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm

> a

> teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

> bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

> cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission

> from

> Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

> anything that causes her to have a problem. I do

> have

> all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

> as the I became sensitive to any hair colour

> product.

> I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds

> before

> I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

> taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

> this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for

> those

> 6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

> night - also after advice from this group). Because

> I

> was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT

> to

> a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal

> now

> and don't need the sort that allows me to

> menstruate).

> I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

> whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

> they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I

> was

> drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

> Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

> been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope

> better

> now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks

> since

> the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

> evening, do you think this could be the problem?

> I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega

> 3

> & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

> Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

> hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron

> Nd

> L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

> it makes me very very constipated.

> Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5

> -16).

> I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

> ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

> level.

>

> I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

> bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

> thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

> Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

> doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

> hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even

> on

> 200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years

> ago

> I just lacked T3?

>

> On a slightly different note the UK government has

> just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

> to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

> polluted air, drink water that is laced with

> chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

> chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

> comparitively small issue.

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

Yes it was 8. My doc said the results showed that I

had subclinical hypothyroidism and my terrible fatigue

etc couldn't be attributed to low thyroid function.

I've had fluctuating symtoms most of my adult life

becoming more severe over the last 20 years (always

worse in the winter). I do feel as though I've lost 20

years of my life (not to mention my home, marriage

etc).

I do think that T3 tests should be routine, I really

had to fight to get mine done; even this time after

6months of taking T3.

Ho hum.........

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Oh, ... a TSH of 8? Is that correct, not a

> typo? You were VERY

> hypo back then... CFS is often a diagnosis used as a

> cop out answer by

> docs that don't understand hypo... arrggghhhh I

> need to find that

> article again one of these days where they list that

> both CFS and Fibro

> came to being after the use of synthetics and TSH

> testing as the answer

> to those folks that were suffering from chronic hypo

> but had TSH labs

> that showed their magic cure T4 was curing them of

> low thyroid and just

> had come up with one of the 'new diseases'...

> arggghhhhh

>

> Topper ()

>

> ThyroPhoenix Donation Link:

>

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> =USD & bn=PP%2dDonationsBF & charset=UTF%2d8

>

> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:29 -0800 (PST)

>

> writes:

> Thanks for answering .

> I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

> 1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

> farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

> smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

> breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

> shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years

> I

> suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during

> my

> 20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

> about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

> back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden

> is

> small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

> course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide.

> I

> am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in

> my

> house and keep my windows closed when the tractors

> are

> working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm

> a

> teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

> bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

> cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission

> from

> Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

> anything that causes her to have a problem. I do

> have

> all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

> as the I became sensitive to any hair colour

> product.

> I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds

> before

> I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

> taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

> this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for

> those

> 6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

> night - also after advice from this group). Because

> I

> was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT

> to

> a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal

> now

> and don't need the sort that allows me to

> menstruate).

> I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

> whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

> they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I

> was

> drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

> Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

> been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope

> better

> now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks

> since

> the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

> evening, do you think this could be the problem?

> I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega

> 3

> & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

> Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

> hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron

> Nd

> L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

> it makes me very very constipated.

> Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5

> -16).

> I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

> ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

> level.

>

> I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

> bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

> thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

> Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

> doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

> hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even

> on

> 200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years

> ago

> I just lacked T3?

>

> On a slightly different note the UK government has

> just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

> to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

> polluted air, drink water that is laced with

> chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

> chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

> comparitively small issue.

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

Yes it was 8. My doc said the results showed that I

had subclinical hypothyroidism and my terrible fatigue

etc couldn't be attributed to low thyroid function.

I've had fluctuating symtoms most of my adult life

becoming more severe over the last 20 years (always

worse in the winter). I do feel as though I've lost 20

years of my life (not to mention my home, marriage

etc).

I do think that T3 tests should be routine, I really

had to fight to get mine done; even this time after

6months of taking T3.

Ho hum.........

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Oh, ... a TSH of 8? Is that correct, not a

> typo? You were VERY

> hypo back then... CFS is often a diagnosis used as a

> cop out answer by

> docs that don't understand hypo... arrggghhhh I

> need to find that

> article again one of these days where they list that

> both CFS and Fibro

> came to being after the use of synthetics and TSH

> testing as the answer

> to those folks that were suffering from chronic hypo

> but had TSH labs

> that showed their magic cure T4 was curing them of

> low thyroid and just

> had come up with one of the 'new diseases'...

> arggghhhhh

>

> Topper ()

>

> ThyroPhoenix Donation Link:

>

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick & business=topper2%40juno

>

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> =USD & bn=PP%2dDonationsBF & charset=UTF%2d8

>

> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:29 -0800 (PST)

>

> writes:

> Thanks for answering .

> I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

> 1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

> farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

> smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

> breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

> shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years

> I

> suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during

> my

> 20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

> about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

> back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden

> is

> small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

> course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide.

> I

> am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in

> my

> house and keep my windows closed when the tractors

> are

> working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm

> a

> teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

> bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

> cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission

> from

> Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

> anything that causes her to have a problem. I do

> have

> all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

> as the I became sensitive to any hair colour

> product.

> I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds

> before

> I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

> taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

> this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for

> those

> 6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

> night - also after advice from this group). Because

> I

> was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT

> to

> a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal

> now

> and don't need the sort that allows me to

> menstruate).

> I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

> whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

> they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I

> was

> drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

> Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

> been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope

> better

> now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks

> since

> the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

> evening, do you think this could be the problem?

> I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega

> 3

> & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

> Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

> hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron

> Nd

> L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

> it makes me very very constipated.

> Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5

> -16).

> I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

> ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

> level.

>

> I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

> bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

> thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

> Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

> doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

> hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even

> on

> 200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years

> ago

> I just lacked T3?

>

> On a slightly different note the UK government has

> just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

> to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

> polluted air, drink water that is laced with

> chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

> chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

> comparitively small issue.

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

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Re: Blood Test> Results> > > > I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on> the> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood> had> > been drawn.> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my> FT4> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in> the> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough> > conversion to take place. I have been eating> sensibly,> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg> of> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't> feel> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add> in> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August> but> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this> month. I> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3> without> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need> the> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.> >> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around> 20> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until> two> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still> my> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone> > resistance.> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

, I am happy to tell you that many hair care products including hair dyes are being produced organically and naturally. Whole Foods Market sells them, you can also get them at natural food stores and if they don't sell them they can probably order them for you.

www.wholefoods.com

http://www.planetorganic.com/

http://www.schwarzkopf-professional.com/int_henkel/schwarzkopf_com/index.cfm?pageid=506

ahh it's the little things that make us who we are. Good luck and let me know if you can find any!

andrea

Re: Blood Test> Results> > > > I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on> the> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood> had> > been drawn.> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my> FT4> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in> the> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough> > conversion to take place. I have been eating> sensibly,> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg> of> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't> feel> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add> in> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August> but> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this> month. I> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3> without> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need> the> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.> >> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around> 20> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until> two> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still> my> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone> > resistance.> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

, I am happy to tell you that many hair care products including hair dyes are being produced organically and naturally. Whole Foods Market sells them, you can also get them at natural food stores and if they don't sell them they can probably order them for you.

www.wholefoods.com

http://www.planetorganic.com/

http://www.schwarzkopf-professional.com/int_henkel/schwarzkopf_com/index.cfm?pageid=506

ahh it's the little things that make us who we are. Good luck and let me know if you can find any!

andrea

Re: Blood Test> Results> > > > I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on> the> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood> had> > been drawn.> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my> FT4> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in> the> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough> > conversion to take place. I have been eating> sensibly,> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg> of> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't> feel> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add> in> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August> but> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this> month. I> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3> without> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need> the> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.> >> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around> 20> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until> two> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still> my> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone> > resistance.> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

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Re: Blood Test> Results> > > > I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on> the> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood> had> > been drawn.> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my> FT4> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in> the> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough> > conversion to take place. I have been eating> sensibly,> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg> of> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't> feel> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add> in> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August> but> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this> month. I> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3> without> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need> the> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.> >> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around> 20> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until> two> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still> my> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone> > resistance.> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

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Re: Blood Test> Results> > > > I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on> the> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood> had> > been drawn.> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my> FT4> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in> the> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough> > conversion to take place. I have been eating> sensibly,> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg> of> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't> feel> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add> in> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August> but> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this> month. I> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3> without> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need> the> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.> >> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around> 20> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until> two> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still> my> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone> > resistance.> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

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Re: Blood Test> Results> > > > I am 5' 2" and weigh 122lbs.> > I take my meds at about 6.45 in the morning but on> the> > morning of the test I waited until after the blood> had> > been drawn.> > Last year when I was still only on 100mcg T4, my> FT4> > was in the middle of the range but T3 was at the> > bottom. My Thyroid doc upped the T4 to 200mcg in> the> > expectation that the extra T4 would enable enough> > conversion to take place. I have been eating> sensibly,> > regularly and often and taking Selenium. At 200mcg> of> > T4 my FT4 went up to 22 (range 9-19) and I didn't> feel> > good. My thyroid doc decided to cut the T4 and add> in> > T3. I have been taking 20mcgT3 since last August> but> > the lab wouldn't test the T3 level until this> month. I> > have been a little anxious about upping the T3> without> > seeing the numbers (my thyroid doc thinks I need> the> > 40mcg of T3; he has told me to up the dose and cut> > back if I feel hyper symptoms.> >> > I have had quite severe hypo symptoms for around> 20> > years and the tests always showed 'in range' until> two> > and a half years ago. I was unable to walk by then> > with masses of other horrible symptoms and still> my> > TSH was only 8. I had wondered about hormone> > resistance.> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

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> Re: Blood

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>

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>

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February 17, 2006

I am enjoying looking at these goodies. Thanks for

your thoughtfulness.

--- Teague

wrote:

> Here is another link for you . Hope you

> enjoy!

>

http://www.dealtime.com/xDN-personal_care-organic_hair_color-hair_color_and_high\

lights~V-rows

> Re: Blood

> Test Results/

>

> , I am happy to tell you that many hair

> care products including hair dyes are being produced

> organically and naturally. Whole Foods Market sells

> them, you can also get them at natural food stores

> and if they don't sell them they can probably order

> them for you.

>

> www.wholefoods.com

> http://www.planetorganic.com/

>

http://www.schwarzkopf-professional.com/int_henkel/schwarzkopf_com/index.cfm?pag\

eid=506

>

> ahh it's the little things that make us who we

> are. Good luck and let me know if you can find any!

>

> andrea

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

I am enjoying looking at these goodies. Thanks for

your thoughtfulness.

--- Teague

wrote:

> Here is another link for you . Hope you

> enjoy!

>

http://www.dealtime.com/xDN-personal_care-organic_hair_color-hair_color_and_high\

lights~V-rows

> Re: Blood

> Test Results/

>

> , I am happy to tell you that many hair

> care products including hair dyes are being produced

> organically and naturally. Whole Foods Market sells

> them, you can also get them at natural food stores

> and if they don't sell them they can probably order

> them for you.

>

> www.wholefoods.com

> http://www.planetorganic.com/

>

http://www.schwarzkopf-professional.com/int_henkel/schwarzkopf_com/index.cfm?pag\

eid=506

>

> ahh it's the little things that make us who we

> are. Good luck and let me know if you can find any!

>

> andrea

>

__________________________________________________

February 17, 2006

First and foremost, it appears that you have become poisoned somewhere in

your childhood, and this affects the way the body processes everything you

put in it or on it. Thus, the problems with being able to absorb the

thyroid hormone. It is soooo evident from everything you're telling us

about the hair color, fragrances, cleaning solutions, etc......Hands down!

Second, I'm glad you're on the iron, but, yes, it is the iron in the supp

that is probably constipating you, plus the hypo. Please remember to take

those Bs and the selenium, if nothing else.

Last, but not least, yes, you probably need to be on female hormone HRT, but

what is that new one you're taking? Is it the natural form, as in Biest or

Triest? Those are more suited to the chemical structure of our own original

estrogens. I probably need to be on it myself, at this point, since I'm

probably POST menopausal (early hyst with dead ovaries at this point; I'm 54

now and had that when I was 35 or 36). May I ask if you are on any

progesterone, in the natural form, NOT artificial, as in progestins.

Progesterone causes everything to run smoother, as it vexes the negative

functions of estrogens. Regardless of what doctors say about it being the

" pregnancy hormone " , it is needed for many other body projects, including

thyroid.

Next, your HG looks good, but I've found out in the past week or two that it

can be bound up with blood sugar, so it can look good, but some of may not

be intact for use for it's normal purposes. The ferritin count isn't the

only one that tells the story here, as that's the storage form of iron, so

it would be wise to get a TIBC done, in order to determine how much iron is

being carried back and forth out of storage for use. If IT is high, that

means that it's having to double time to make up for a shortage. It is the

" transit system " to carry ferritin around the body and into the red blood

cells. The doctor may not be very happy, but it's not his body to deny it,

and he hasn't yet done the proper testing to the fullest to determine all of

this, unless he did it awhile back. The HG is simply one part of that

picture, when it comes to iron.

I think it's ridiculous the air we breathe and the food we eat hasn't been

taken care of properly, but you know what THAT is, that's because all of

those are connected with industrial giantism. So are cigarettes, but

there's been so much public lobbying there that they can't very well deny

it, at this point

It appears to me, from everything you've said, that your body is not

processing T4 to T3 properly, not that there's NONE there, but the

comparison between the two is moot, and I think that you need direct T3, so

that those cellular receptores will " wake up " . I don't think that that

treatment is for EVERYone, but in these special cases, it definitely is, in

order for THAT person to feel better. We're not all alike here.

Re: Blood Test Results/

> Thanks for answering .

> I live in the country. When I was a child (in the

> 1950s) we were often told to stay indoors when the

> farmers sprayed their fields. The spray was foul

> smelling and we were told it could harm us if we

> breathed it. Of course we had to walk to school, go

> shopping, go to church etc. During my teenage years I

> suffered from panic attacks and weight gain, during my

> 20s I lost a huge amount of weight (going down to

> about 98lbs) and was, I think, quite hyper. I moved

> back to a farming area about 9 years ago. My garden is

> small and there is an arable field on two sides. Of

> course it is sprayed with insecticide and fungicide. I

> am sensitive to any chemical and avoid using any in my

> house and keep my windows closed when the tractors are

> working. I know the chemical cleaners in school(I'm a

> teacher) cause allergic reactions (I have frequent

> bouts of allergic rhinitis). I'm lucky that the

> cleaner has the same problem (she is in remission from

> Graves) and she is quite aggressive in throwing out

> anything that causes her to have a problem. I do have

> all sorts of allergies and can't dye my hair anymore

> as the I became sensitive to any hair colour product.

> I wait for an hour after I take my thyroid meds before

> I eat (thanks to advice on this site!). I had been

> taking my present dose of meds for 6 months prior to

> this test. I had been weaning myself off HRT for those

> 6months (taking a pill every other day and always at

> night - also after advice from this group). Because I

> was losing so much hair my doc has changed the HRT to

> a combination pill (it seems I am fully menopausal now

> and don't need the sort that allows me to menstruate).

> I have found it impossible to cope with hot flushes

> whilst teaching; when they started I was only 47 and

> they were coming every 20mins. I felt as though I was

> drowning and my clothes were soaked again and again.

> Even my shoes were wet....urgh. Of course I hadn't

> been diagnosed as HypoT then so maybe I'd cope better

> now. I have been taking this new HRT for 3 weeks since

> the last blood test. As I said I take the HRT in the

> evening, do you think this could be the problem?

> I am 55 years old, take a B complex supplement Omega 3

> & 6 and selenium. I have bought a supplement called

> Florisene that is designed for women suffering from

> hair loss. It contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Iron Nd

> L-Lysine. I haven't been too regular with its use as

> it makes me very very constipated.

> Did the Hg seem low to you? Hg 13.5 (Range 11.5 -16).

> I know my GP will not be happy if I ask for the

> ferritin test again as he is quite happy with this

> level.

>

> I have been thinking about conversion problems. My

> bloods showed normal every time I was tested (first

> thyroid function test 20 years ago). When I was so

> Hypo that I couldn't walk my TSH was only 8 and the

> doc said my symptoms couldn't possibly be due to

> hypothyroidism and diagnosed my as having CFS. Even on

> 200mcg of T4 I wasn't OK. So maybe all those years ago

> I just lacked T3?

>

> On a slightly different note the UK government has

> just voted to ban smoking in public places. It seems

> to me crazy that we are still happy to breathe

> polluted air, drink water that is laced with

> chemicals, eat food that is contaminated with

> chemicals and hormones and legislate over a

> comparitively small issue.

>

February 17, 2006