Re: OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

[Guest guest]

I don't know why most men become gyns. I know why mine did. He lives for

delivering babies. Anyway, I guess you have to take the gross with the good

about being a dr in any field.

Personally, if my dr wanted to do any sort of exam during my peroid I would have

to kick him. I just can't deal with that sort of pain.

Georga Hackworth

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OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

I'm just so grossed out.

Went to the gyn this morning because I have an IUD that needs to come out.

Problem is, the damn string they use to catch and remove the damn thing is

MISSING. It's supposed to be out of the cervix, but mine isn't. The IUD is in

perfect position, though, so I'm not in any danger of physical distress.

So he did an internal, verified that yes, the string is missing, and told me

there are two things to be done. The FINAL step is for me to go into hospital

for day surgery, where they'll put me under general anesthetic, dilate the

cervix, and remove the IUD. OK, that's find...BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I have to

come in at the end of the month, *during my period*, when the cervix is slightly

dilated and he may be able to fish around and find the fucking string and get it

out in the office.

That is GROSS!!!!! ICK! YUCK! BLEAGH!

I ask you: what man in his right mind would become a gynocologist??????????

I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK.

Jacquie

-whose gyn has obsessive compulsive disorder (freely admitted) and spent the

talking portion of the visit making sure his desk things were in their exact and

proper places. And who is glad to know about OCD, and not take that personally.

LOL

[Guest guest]

I don't know why most men become gyns. I know why mine did. He lives for

delivering babies. Anyway, I guess you have to take the gross with the good

about being a dr in any field.

Personally, if my dr wanted to do any sort of exam during my peroid I would have

to kick him. I just can't deal with that sort of pain.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

I'm just so grossed out.

Went to the gyn this morning because I have an IUD that needs to come out.

Problem is, the damn string they use to catch and remove the damn thing is

MISSING. It's supposed to be out of the cervix, but mine isn't. The IUD is in

perfect position, though, so I'm not in any danger of physical distress.

So he did an internal, verified that yes, the string is missing, and told me

there are two things to be done. The FINAL step is for me to go into hospital

for day surgery, where they'll put me under general anesthetic, dilate the

cervix, and remove the IUD. OK, that's find...BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I have to

come in at the end of the month, *during my period*, when the cervix is slightly

dilated and he may be able to fish around and find the fucking string and get it

out in the office.

That is GROSS!!!!! ICK! YUCK! BLEAGH!

I ask you: what man in his right mind would become a gynocologist??????????

I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK.

Jacquie

-whose gyn has obsessive compulsive disorder (freely admitted) and spent the

talking portion of the visit making sure his desk things were in their exact and

proper places. And who is glad to know about OCD, and not take that personally.

LOL

[Guest guest]

You know, it seems contradictory to have OCD and be a GYN, BUT OTOH,

you could depend on him to pay attention to details. Still, Ick. I

agree. Yuck yuck yuck!

Best of luck to you.

[Guest guest]

> I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK <

you are sickened that a man would want to be a gynocologist or you are sickened

that you will be getting fished around in during your period?

gina- who always has women gynos for these very reasons

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK <

you are sickened that a man would want to be a gynocologist or you are sickened

that you will be getting fished around in during your period?

gina- who always has women gynos for these very reasons

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK <

you are sickened that a man would want to be a gynocologist or you are sickened

that you will be getting fished around in during your period?

gina- who always has women gynos for these very reasons

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

That does sound gross. I had mine inserted during my period so maybe not too

gross. I think I would still have it removed while I was out. That sounds like

it would hurt having some dr fish around and what if he couldnt get it. No, I

would go to the hospital and have them knock me out. Thank you very much!

Jacquie H

OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

I'm just so grossed out.

Went to the gyn this morning because I have an IUD that needs to come out.

Problem is, the damn string they use to catch and remove the damn thing is

MISSING. It's supposed to be out of the cervix, but mine isn't. The IUD is in

perfect position, though, so I'm not in any danger of physical distress.

So he did an internal, verified that yes, the string is missing, and told me

there are two things to be done. The FINAL step is for me to go into hospital

for day surgery, where they'll put me under general anesthetic, dilate the

cervix, and remove the IUD. OK, that's find...BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I have to

come in at the end of the month, *during my period*, when the cervix is slightly

dilated and he may be able to fish around and find the fucking string and get it

out in the office.

That is GROSS!!!!! ICK! YUCK! BLEAGH!

I ask you: what man in his right mind would become a gynocologist??????????

I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK.

Jacquie

-whose gyn has obsessive compulsive disorder (freely admitted) and spent the

talking portion of the visit making sure his desk things were in their exact and

proper places. And who is glad to know about OCD, and not take that personally.

LOL

[Guest guest]

--

Maybe taking it out when you are dilated just has less risks than

surgury. I guess surgeons also have to deal with stuff that is

pretty gross, bloody organs,etc. I guess they are trained to see it

differently than the everyday person. It does seem disgusting.

Sometimes, I do wonder why they pick gyn.

Thea

- In parenting_autism , " The Hunny Family "

<vhunnius@l...> wrote:

> I'm just so grossed out.

>

> Went to the gyn this morning because I have an IUD that needs to

come out. Problem is, the damn string they use to catch and remove

the damn thing is MISSING. It's supposed to be out of the cervix,

but mine isn't. The IUD is in perfect position, though, so I'm not

in any danger of physical distress.

>

> So he did an internal, verified that yes, the string is missing,

and told me there are two things to be done. The FINAL step is for

me to go into hospital for day surgery, where they'll put me under

general anesthetic, dilate the cervix, and remove the IUD. OK,

that's find...BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I have to come in at the end of

the month, *during my period*, when the cervix is slightly dilated

and he may be able to fish around and find the fucking string and

get it out in the office.

>

> That is GROSS!!!!! ICK! YUCK! BLEAGH!

>

> I ask you: what man in his right mind would become a

gynocologist??????????

>

> I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK.

>

> Jacquie

> -whose gyn has obsessive compulsive disorder (freely admitted) and

spent the talking portion of the visit making sure his desk things

were in their exact and proper places. And who is glad to know

about OCD, and not take that personally. LOL

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--

Maybe taking it out when you are dilated just has less risks than

surgury. I guess surgeons also have to deal with stuff that is

pretty gross, bloody organs,etc. I guess they are trained to see it

differently than the everyday person. It does seem disgusting.

Sometimes, I do wonder why they pick gyn.

Thea

- In parenting_autism , " The Hunny Family "

<vhunnius@l...> wrote:

> I'm just so grossed out.

>

> Went to the gyn this morning because I have an IUD that needs to

come out. Problem is, the damn string they use to catch and remove

the damn thing is MISSING. It's supposed to be out of the cervix,

but mine isn't. The IUD is in perfect position, though, so I'm not

in any danger of physical distress.

>

> So he did an internal, verified that yes, the string is missing,

and told me there are two things to be done. The FINAL step is for

me to go into hospital for day surgery, where they'll put me under

general anesthetic, dilate the cervix, and remove the IUD. OK,

that's find...BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I have to come in at the end of

the month, *during my period*, when the cervix is slightly dilated

and he may be able to fish around and find the fucking string and

get it out in the office.

>

> That is GROSS!!!!! ICK! YUCK! BLEAGH!

>

> I ask you: what man in his right mind would become a

gynocologist??????????

>

> I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK.

>

> Jacquie

> -whose gyn has obsessive compulsive disorder (freely admitted) and

spent the talking portion of the visit making sure his desk things

were in their exact and proper places. And who is glad to know

about OCD, and not take that personally. LOL

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--

Maybe taking it out when you are dilated just has less risks than

surgury. I guess surgeons also have to deal with stuff that is

pretty gross, bloody organs,etc. I guess they are trained to see it

differently than the everyday person. It does seem disgusting.

Sometimes, I do wonder why they pick gyn.

Thea

- In parenting_autism , " The Hunny Family "

<vhunnius@l...> wrote:

> I'm just so grossed out.

>

> Went to the gyn this morning because I have an IUD that needs to

come out. Problem is, the damn string they use to catch and remove

the damn thing is MISSING. It's supposed to be out of the cervix,

but mine isn't. The IUD is in perfect position, though, so I'm not

in any danger of physical distress.

>

> So he did an internal, verified that yes, the string is missing,

and told me there are two things to be done. The FINAL step is for

me to go into hospital for day surgery, where they'll put me under

general anesthetic, dilate the cervix, and remove the IUD. OK,

that's find...BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I have to come in at the end of

the month, *during my period*, when the cervix is slightly dilated

and he may be able to fish around and find the fucking string and

get it out in the office.

>

> That is GROSS!!!!! ICK! YUCK! BLEAGH!

>

> I ask you: what man in his right mind would become a

gynocologist??????????

>

> I am COMPLETELY sickened by this. It feels SO wrong. ICK.

>

> Jacquie

> -whose gyn has obsessive compulsive disorder (freely admitted) and

spent the talking portion of the visit making sure his desk things

were in their exact and proper places. And who is glad to know

about OCD, and not take that personally. LOL

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh thanks Jaquie-- just as our government is trying to figure out

this mess of a healthcare system we have...you gotta scare me about

the possibility of socialized healthcare.

Well, I surely can't afford ANY healthcare right now..I can't afford

the 430 a month in health insurance they're asking so we dropped it,

even with the insurance we couldn't pay the co-pay nor the

deductibles..not to mention the scripts. But knowing how our US

government can screw up a wet dream...

I'd move to Canada if it wasn't so darn cold

>

>

> > I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your

life " .

>

>

> No, no - you guys don't get it!

>

> I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a

surgery. The

> Ontario system just will not allow it. See, our health care is

funded by

> the government, and the government is not putting any money into

the heath

> care system. Our local ER closes at 10pm now because they don't

have the

> money to stay open overnight. This, even though twice now people

have died

> en route to the nearest ERs (each more than half an hour away) who

might

> have lived if our ER was open to treat them.

>

> Surgery is WAY expensive, so it is provincially mandated that EVERY

> possibility must be exhausted before you go under the knife.

>

> Take my c-section. Two MONTHS before 's due date, the doctor

told me

> that I had that condition where the baby's head is too big to pass

into the

> birth canal. As the date neared, he NEVER dropped, my cervix NEVER

> changed - as far as the cervix was concerned, there was no baby in

there,

> because there was NO pressure from him dropping. I never had

Braxton Hicks

> contractions, not once. I had preeclampsia, and was hospitalized

twice in

> the last months. It was a GIVEN that I would not deliver this child

> naturally.

>

> BUT, the day of the section, they admitted me at 5am. They pumped

pitocin

> into me for SIX HOURS. I didn't have one single contraction.

was

> still not dropped. They put that gel on my cervix. NOTHING. Not

dilated,

> not effaced, NOTHING. This was FIVE DAYS after my due date.

People came in

> and 'massaged' the cervix. Which hurt like hell. NOTHING.

>

> FINALLY, at noon they admitted they had to cut me open, after

trying every

> single solitary thing they could to induce me. My doctor TOLD me

they knew

> it wouldn't work, but that policy insists that they try anyway in

order to

> justify the expense of an operating theatre!

>

> INSIDE the operating room is a whole 'nother nightmare story.

>

> Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Oh thanks Jaquie-- just as our government is trying to figure out

this mess of a healthcare system we have...you gotta scare me about

the possibility of socialized healthcare.

Well, I surely can't afford ANY healthcare right now..I can't afford

the 430 a month in health insurance they're asking so we dropped it,

even with the insurance we couldn't pay the co-pay nor the

deductibles..not to mention the scripts. But knowing how our US

government can screw up a wet dream...

I'd move to Canada if it wasn't so darn cold

>

>

> > I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your

life " .

>

>

> No, no - you guys don't get it!

>

> I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a

surgery. The

> Ontario system just will not allow it. See, our health care is

funded by

> the government, and the government is not putting any money into

the heath

> care system. Our local ER closes at 10pm now because they don't

have the

> money to stay open overnight. This, even though twice now people

have died

> en route to the nearest ERs (each more than half an hour away) who

might

> have lived if our ER was open to treat them.

>

> Surgery is WAY expensive, so it is provincially mandated that EVERY

> possibility must be exhausted before you go under the knife.

>

> Take my c-section. Two MONTHS before 's due date, the doctor

told me

> that I had that condition where the baby's head is too big to pass

into the

> birth canal. As the date neared, he NEVER dropped, my cervix NEVER

> changed - as far as the cervix was concerned, there was no baby in

there,

> because there was NO pressure from him dropping. I never had

Braxton Hicks

> contractions, not once. I had preeclampsia, and was hospitalized

twice in

> the last months. It was a GIVEN that I would not deliver this child

> naturally.

>

> BUT, the day of the section, they admitted me at 5am. They pumped

pitocin

> into me for SIX HOURS. I didn't have one single contraction.

was

> still not dropped. They put that gel on my cervix. NOTHING. Not

dilated,

> not effaced, NOTHING. This was FIVE DAYS after my due date.

People came in

> and 'massaged' the cervix. Which hurt like hell. NOTHING.

>

> FINALLY, at noon they admitted they had to cut me open, after

trying every

> single solitary thing they could to induce me. My doctor TOLD me

they knew

> it wouldn't work, but that policy insists that they try anyway in

order to

> justify the expense of an operating theatre!

>

> INSIDE the operating room is a whole 'nother nightmare story.

>

> Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Oh thanks Jaquie-- just as our government is trying to figure out

this mess of a healthcare system we have...you gotta scare me about

the possibility of socialized healthcare.

Well, I surely can't afford ANY healthcare right now..I can't afford

the 430 a month in health insurance they're asking so we dropped it,

even with the insurance we couldn't pay the co-pay nor the

deductibles..not to mention the scripts. But knowing how our US

government can screw up a wet dream...

I'd move to Canada if it wasn't so darn cold

>

>

> > I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your

life " .

>

>

> No, no - you guys don't get it!

>

> I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a

surgery. The

> Ontario system just will not allow it. See, our health care is

funded by

> the government, and the government is not putting any money into

the heath

> care system. Our local ER closes at 10pm now because they don't

have the

> money to stay open overnight. This, even though twice now people

have died

> en route to the nearest ERs (each more than half an hour away) who

might

> have lived if our ER was open to treat them.

>

> Surgery is WAY expensive, so it is provincially mandated that EVERY

> possibility must be exhausted before you go under the knife.

>

> Take my c-section. Two MONTHS before 's due date, the doctor

told me

> that I had that condition where the baby's head is too big to pass

into the

> birth canal. As the date neared, he NEVER dropped, my cervix NEVER

> changed - as far as the cervix was concerned, there was no baby in

there,

> because there was NO pressure from him dropping. I never had

Braxton Hicks

> contractions, not once. I had preeclampsia, and was hospitalized

twice in

> the last months. It was a GIVEN that I would not deliver this child

> naturally.

>

> BUT, the day of the section, they admitted me at 5am. They pumped

pitocin

> into me for SIX HOURS. I didn't have one single contraction.

was

> still not dropped. They put that gel on my cervix. NOTHING. Not

dilated,

> not effaced, NOTHING. This was FIVE DAYS after my due date.

People came in

> and 'massaged' the cervix. Which hurt like hell. NOTHING.

>

> FINALLY, at noon they admitted they had to cut me open, after

trying every

> single solitary thing they could to induce me. My doctor TOLD me

they knew

> it wouldn't work, but that policy insists that they try anyway in

order to

> justify the expense of an operating theatre!

>

> INSIDE the operating room is a whole 'nother nightmare story.

>

> Jacquie

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, I have no way of comparing, but that's what nurses always tell me

when

> I'm in hospital for something!

>

> When I broke my tibia & fibula both right in half (or is it tibula and

> fibia?) everyone who cared for me up until x-rays - including the EMTs,

the

> doctor, and the nurses - thought I had a sprain because I was so calm. I

> dunno. <shrug>

>

> Jacquie

More proof that your an aspie! You have a very screwed up sensory system!!

LOL.

sue

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, I have no way of comparing, but that's what nurses always tell me

when

> I'm in hospital for something!

>

> When I broke my tibia & fibula both right in half (or is it tibula and

> fibia?) everyone who cared for me up until x-rays - including the EMTs,

the

> doctor, and the nurses - thought I had a sprain because I was so calm. I

> dunno. <shrug>

>

> Jacquie

More proof that your an aspie! You have a very screwed up sensory system!!

LOL.

sue

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, I have no way of comparing, but that's what nurses always tell me

when

> I'm in hospital for something!

>

> When I broke my tibia & fibula both right in half (or is it tibula and

> fibia?) everyone who cared for me up until x-rays - including the EMTs,

the

> doctor, and the nurses - thought I had a sprain because I was so calm. I

> dunno. <shrug>

>

> Jacquie

More proof that your an aspie! You have a very screwed up sensory system!!

LOL.

sue

[Guest guest]

UGH! With health care like that I would go mad.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

> I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your life " .

No, no - you guys don't get it!

I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a surgery. The

Ontario system just will not allow it. See, our health care is funded by

the government, and the government is not putting any money into the heath

care system. Our local ER closes at 10pm now because they don't have the

money to stay open overnight. This, even though twice now people have died

en route to the nearest ERs (each more than half an hour away) who might

have lived if our ER was open to treat them.

Surgery is WAY expensive, so it is provincially mandated that EVERY

possibility must be exhausted before you go under the knife.

Take my c-section. Two MONTHS before 's due date, the doctor told me

that I had that condition where the baby's head is too big to pass into the

birth canal. As the date neared, he NEVER dropped, my cervix NEVER

changed - as far as the cervix was concerned, there was no baby in there,

because there was NO pressure from him dropping. I never had Braxton Hicks

contractions, not once. I had preeclampsia, and was hospitalized twice in

the last months. It was a GIVEN that I would not deliver this child

naturally.

BUT, the day of the section, they admitted me at 5am. They pumped pitocin

into me for SIX HOURS. I didn't have one single contraction. was

still not dropped. They put that gel on my cervix. NOTHING. Not dilated,

not effaced, NOTHING. This was FIVE DAYS after my due date. People came in

and 'massaged' the cervix. Which hurt like hell. NOTHING.

FINALLY, at noon they admitted they had to cut me open, after trying every

single solitary thing they could to induce me. My doctor TOLD me they knew

it wouldn't work, but that policy insists that they try anyway in order to

justify the expense of an operating theatre!

INSIDE the operating room is a whole 'nother nightmare story.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

UGH! With health care like that I would go mad.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

> I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your life " .

No, no - you guys don't get it!

I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a surgery. The

Ontario system just will not allow it. See, our health care is funded by

the government, and the government is not putting any money into the heath

care system. Our local ER closes at 10pm now because they don't have the

money to stay open overnight. This, even though twice now people have died

en route to the nearest ERs (each more than half an hour away) who might

have lived if our ER was open to treat them.

Surgery is WAY expensive, so it is provincially mandated that EVERY

possibility must be exhausted before you go under the knife.

Take my c-section. Two MONTHS before 's due date, the doctor told me

that I had that condition where the baby's head is too big to pass into the

birth canal. As the date neared, he NEVER dropped, my cervix NEVER

changed - as far as the cervix was concerned, there was no baby in there,

because there was NO pressure from him dropping. I never had Braxton Hicks

contractions, not once. I had preeclampsia, and was hospitalized twice in

the last months. It was a GIVEN that I would not deliver this child

naturally.

BUT, the day of the section, they admitted me at 5am. They pumped pitocin

into me for SIX HOURS. I didn't have one single contraction. was

still not dropped. They put that gel on my cervix. NOTHING. Not dilated,

not effaced, NOTHING. This was FIVE DAYS after my due date. People came in

and 'massaged' the cervix. Which hurt like hell. NOTHING.

FINALLY, at noon they admitted they had to cut me open, after trying every

single solitary thing they could to induce me. My doctor TOLD me they knew

it wouldn't work, but that policy insists that they try anyway in order to

justify the expense of an operating theatre!

INSIDE the operating room is a whole 'nother nightmare story.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Oh Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Luck, glad it's you and not me.

Jen

[Guest guest]

> I feel like I might as well poop in the poor

bastard's face, you know?

Oh! the pictures that come to mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL every time I think of it!

Jen

[Guest guest]

> I feel like I might as well poop in the poor

bastard's face, you know?

Oh! the pictures that come to mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL every time I think of it!

Jen

[Guest guest]

> I feel like I might as well poop in the poor

bastard's face, you know?

Oh! the pictures that come to mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL every time I think of it!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Jacquie:

See there's just one little thing bothering me about what your gyn is

recommending .... The cervix opens slightly at the time of ovulation, and

is relatively closed throughout the rest of the cycle. I know this from

practicing FAM (fertility awareness method) for birth control and for my

current pregnancy. One of the natural body signals that is tracked in this

method is the position and relative openess of the cervix - - which softens

and opens as ovulation approaches (thus one can aim for or avoid sex as

neccessary). Now I'm sure what's done is done as far as the gyn is

concerned, but it seems to me it would be better to be examined around

ovulation than menstruation ... : )

ps: boy could I tell you some stories about my c-section! 14 days post

due, no dropping, no dilation, started induction, used the stupid gel, then

amnio-infusion, then pitocin, many disasters followed including a crash

c-section in the night before my husband could even be phoned to come in ...

modern medicine, grrr.

Re: OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

>

>

> > I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your life " .

>

>

> No, no - you guys don't get it!

>

> I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a surgery.

[Guest guest]

Jacquie:

See there's just one little thing bothering me about what your gyn is

recommending .... The cervix opens slightly at the time of ovulation, and

is relatively closed throughout the rest of the cycle. I know this from

practicing FAM (fertility awareness method) for birth control and for my

current pregnancy. One of the natural body signals that is tracked in this

method is the position and relative openess of the cervix - - which softens

and opens as ovulation approaches (thus one can aim for or avoid sex as

neccessary). Now I'm sure what's done is done as far as the gyn is

concerned, but it seems to me it would be better to be examined around

ovulation than menstruation ... : )

ps: boy could I tell you some stories about my c-section! 14 days post

due, no dropping, no dilation, started induction, used the stupid gel, then

amnio-infusion, then pitocin, many disasters followed including a crash

c-section in the night before my husband could even be phoned to come in ...

modern medicine, grrr.

Re: OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

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> > I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your life " .

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> No, no - you guys don't get it!

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> I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a surgery.

[Guest guest]

Jacquie:

See there's just one little thing bothering me about what your gyn is

recommending .... The cervix opens slightly at the time of ovulation, and

is relatively closed throughout the rest of the cycle. I know this from

practicing FAM (fertility awareness method) for birth control and for my

current pregnancy. One of the natural body signals that is tracked in this

method is the position and relative openess of the cervix - - which softens

and opens as ovulation approaches (thus one can aim for or avoid sex as

neccessary). Now I'm sure what's done is done as far as the gyn is

concerned, but it seems to me it would be better to be examined around

ovulation than menstruation ... : )

ps: boy could I tell you some stories about my c-section! 14 days post

due, no dropping, no dilation, started induction, used the stupid gel, then

amnio-infusion, then pitocin, many disasters followed including a crash

c-section in the night before my husband could even be phoned to come in ...

modern medicine, grrr.

Re: OT - *GROSS GYNOCOLOGIST DETAILS*

>

>

> > I would be going " EEWWW " as well and telling my dr " Not on your life " .

>

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> No, no - you guys don't get it!

>

> I CAN'T refuse all " reasonable " attempts at circumventing a surgery.