Re: Weakness and Tiredness

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Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep

going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were last in

the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't

get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can barely

cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the

housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not

considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything

including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low

stamina, and tiredness.

Any suggestions would really help,

thanks alot

Deana

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[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep

going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were last in

the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't

get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can barely

cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the

housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not

considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything

including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low

stamina, and tiredness.

Any suggestions would really help,

thanks alot

Deana

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Shoot your numbers by us again Deana, so that we can see what might need tweaking...... Remember, just having the levels 'in normal range' isn't good enough, it's where they fall in their ranges AND how you feel.. there is something that is still off..

Have you had your ferritin and B-12 checked... these are two anemias that are common when dealing with messed up thyroid and can really trash your energy...

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:36:37 -0600 Deana Brown writes:

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were last in the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can barely cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low stamina, and tiredness.Any suggestions would really help,thanks alotDeana

[Guest guest]

Shoot your numbers by us again Deana, so that we can see what might need tweaking...... Remember, just having the levels 'in normal range' isn't good enough, it's where they fall in their ranges AND how you feel.. there is something that is still off..

Have you had your ferritin and B-12 checked... these are two anemias that are common when dealing with messed up thyroid and can really trash your energy...

Topper ()

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:36:37 -0600 Deana Brown writes:

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were last in the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can barely cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low stamina, and tiredness.Any suggestions would really help,thanks alotDeana

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have your doc check your other hormone levels, adrenal, testosterone, progestrine, estrogen, etc. they're all related. also have allergy tests done (I know you guys are tired of having that sentance come out of my mouth buy I swear it helps), make sure you are taking your pills like clockwork at the same times every day and going to bed with enough time to sleep (hypos usually need around 8+ hours per night). Also, make sure when you sleep you are getting deep sleep. A problem I used to have is my fibro pain would keep me from sleeping deeply (didn't dream for about a year and a half). When you know you're dreaming at night, you're sleeping deep enough.

Another thing is, make sure you are sleeping when your body tells you. The first step in adequately listening to your body is to listen to how tired you are. Sleeping when you are tired is a must and probably the 1st real step into getting healthier BEFORE anything else including meds. Why? Because when you get the aches and pains and body fatigue away when your sleep cycles fix themselves, then you are able to really see what symptoms are hypo related and what symptoms are adrenal related, iron related, etc.

That's another thing... have your iron checked. If you can't have your iron checked, get a good multi vitamin supplement that has everything in it your body needs to fuel itself. B complex supplements do this also. Try to avoid the b complex supplements that have ginseng, green tea extract, etc. they are really great at helping with energy & metabolism conversion but if you have allergies to these things or think you might it's going to take you in the opposite direction. After about 3 weeks on my vitamins I noticed I had a lot more energy.

Getting your iron checked is another thing you can do. If your body is low on iron you will feel very very tired, very sluggish, very achy deep in your muscles, sometimes you will be pale around your lips, you'll feel like you're stretching out your muscles when you are sitting stationary... many different things. Taking a multivitamin will help this.

My doc would probably freak if he saw my b complex supplement. It's liquid by Spring Valley it has 20,000% of my daily amount if B12 in it. NO that is not a typo. Every other B supplement I have is 100% + what is in my multi vitamin. Essentially I'm getting about 200% of my daily B complex.... but it helps. I can tell a HUGE difference in my adrenal levels and my energy. Selenium is helpful also in thyroid conversion. I don't take Selenium on it's own because it's in my multi. But, you can adjust that.

After my adrenals crashed after about 3 days I lowered it to 1/4 (1cc is the full dose) for a few days, then 1/2 for a few days, in another week or two I will raise it to 3/4 then 1 full dose.

Keep a journal and track how you feel. Make notes in it about 4-5 times a day. Do this as soon as you get up in the morning, an hour after each meal and before you go to bed. Track what you ate, what was in it, how much you ate, how you felt 1 hour after eating it (symptoms worse, better, not different, etc.) also track your fluid intake as well. (taking your basal temp/pulse won't be bad either daily) track your symptoms to.

What you will be looking for with that is possible allergens, if your thyroid/adrenal levels spike in the morning, afternoon, or at night. You'll also be looking for metabolic trends. (hence energy spikes). The vitamins will take about 3-6 weeks for you to feel anything but take them religiously at the same time every day. I recommend taking the B complex when you have your first drop in energy for the day and seeing over time if that helps.

If you can also do this, track your weight and blood pressure once a week, daily or month on the same day. This will allow you to get into the habit of showing your doc you are a dilligent patient. Many grocery stores now have blood pressure machines, local gyms do, dr's offices do, etc. It doesn't matter if it isn't that accurate as long as you go to the same machines every time.

When you are done with this for about a month's work of writing, take it to your doctor and show it to them. This is to convince your doctor that you are 100% serious about getting better and that you are willing to jump through the hoops you need to in order to do it. Always stay one step ahead of your doctors, stay knowledgible stay informed, if you have to take books to your doctor to explain links or draw it out for them, then you do it.

Let your doc know if you feel better on the vitamins or worse, also make sure you write out all the symptoms you are currently still having that day. Drink at least 3 bottles (50-60 oz or so) of water daily. Don't count soda (high fructose can make your blood pressure & adrenals work over time), don't count juice (same here to.. your body may have problems processing the sugars), just count pure h2O and if possible, filter it or buy bottled rather than tap. Regular tap water has flouride added at the plant. Flouride is a good thing, it helps your teeth and bones stay strong, but totally screws up your thyroid production (flouride is for people that don't get enough calcium). I haven't drank flourinated water for over 2 years now and I assure you my teeth and bones are fine... that's what calcium is for .

Have your doc do a chemical tox screening on you also down the line. If you have chemical sensitivities or lots of minerals, etc. you will feel like left over compost. If your metals are to high/low, you will feel it.

Oh, and take bubble baths... lots of bubble baths. But make sure you don't have any 'girl reactions' to the soap you use. Why bubble baths? They help a tired body and make you feel really really good.

If you don't want to use soap, use a 1/2 cup of epson salt (or any salt as long as you are not allergic to iodine), 1/2 cup of sugar and a wee bit of olive oil. This will work as an exfoliant and keep your skin soft and smooth. It helps fight away the hypo reaction to constantly keep you dry.

I hope this helps.

Good luck Deana.

Re: Weakness and Tiredness

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were last in the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can barely cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low stamina, and tiredness.Any suggestions would really help,thanks alotDeana>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

have your doc check your other hormone levels, adrenal, testosterone, progestrine, estrogen, etc. they're all related. also have allergy tests done (I know you guys are tired of having that sentance come out of my mouth buy I swear it helps), make sure you are taking your pills like clockwork at the same times every day and going to bed with enough time to sleep (hypos usually need around 8+ hours per night). Also, make sure when you sleep you are getting deep sleep. A problem I used to have is my fibro pain would keep me from sleeping deeply (didn't dream for about a year and a half). When you know you're dreaming at night, you're sleeping deep enough.

Another thing is, make sure you are sleeping when your body tells you. The first step in adequately listening to your body is to listen to how tired you are. Sleeping when you are tired is a must and probably the 1st real step into getting healthier BEFORE anything else including meds. Why? Because when you get the aches and pains and body fatigue away when your sleep cycles fix themselves, then you are able to really see what symptoms are hypo related and what symptoms are adrenal related, iron related, etc.

That's another thing... have your iron checked. If you can't have your iron checked, get a good multi vitamin supplement that has everything in it your body needs to fuel itself. B complex supplements do this also. Try to avoid the b complex supplements that have ginseng, green tea extract, etc. they are really great at helping with energy & metabolism conversion but if you have allergies to these things or think you might it's going to take you in the opposite direction. After about 3 weeks on my vitamins I noticed I had a lot more energy.

Getting your iron checked is another thing you can do. If your body is low on iron you will feel very very tired, very sluggish, very achy deep in your muscles, sometimes you will be pale around your lips, you'll feel like you're stretching out your muscles when you are sitting stationary... many different things. Taking a multivitamin will help this.

My doc would probably freak if he saw my b complex supplement. It's liquid by Spring Valley it has 20,000% of my daily amount if B12 in it. NO that is not a typo. Every other B supplement I have is 100% + what is in my multi vitamin. Essentially I'm getting about 200% of my daily B complex.... but it helps. I can tell a HUGE difference in my adrenal levels and my energy. Selenium is helpful also in thyroid conversion. I don't take Selenium on it's own because it's in my multi. But, you can adjust that.

After my adrenals crashed after about 3 days I lowered it to 1/4 (1cc is the full dose) for a few days, then 1/2 for a few days, in another week or two I will raise it to 3/4 then 1 full dose.

Keep a journal and track how you feel. Make notes in it about 4-5 times a day. Do this as soon as you get up in the morning, an hour after each meal and before you go to bed. Track what you ate, what was in it, how much you ate, how you felt 1 hour after eating it (symptoms worse, better, not different, etc.) also track your fluid intake as well. (taking your basal temp/pulse won't be bad either daily) track your symptoms to.

What you will be looking for with that is possible allergens, if your thyroid/adrenal levels spike in the morning, afternoon, or at night. You'll also be looking for metabolic trends. (hence energy spikes). The vitamins will take about 3-6 weeks for you to feel anything but take them religiously at the same time every day. I recommend taking the B complex when you have your first drop in energy for the day and seeing over time if that helps.

If you can also do this, track your weight and blood pressure once a week, daily or month on the same day. This will allow you to get into the habit of showing your doc you are a dilligent patient. Many grocery stores now have blood pressure machines, local gyms do, dr's offices do, etc. It doesn't matter if it isn't that accurate as long as you go to the same machines every time.

When you are done with this for about a month's work of writing, take it to your doctor and show it to them. This is to convince your doctor that you are 100% serious about getting better and that you are willing to jump through the hoops you need to in order to do it. Always stay one step ahead of your doctors, stay knowledgible stay informed, if you have to take books to your doctor to explain links or draw it out for them, then you do it.

Let your doc know if you feel better on the vitamins or worse, also make sure you write out all the symptoms you are currently still having that day. Drink at least 3 bottles (50-60 oz or so) of water daily. Don't count soda (high fructose can make your blood pressure & adrenals work over time), don't count juice (same here to.. your body may have problems processing the sugars), just count pure h2O and if possible, filter it or buy bottled rather than tap. Regular tap water has flouride added at the plant. Flouride is a good thing, it helps your teeth and bones stay strong, but totally screws up your thyroid production (flouride is for people that don't get enough calcium). I haven't drank flourinated water for over 2 years now and I assure you my teeth and bones are fine... that's what calcium is for .

Have your doc do a chemical tox screening on you also down the line. If you have chemical sensitivities or lots of minerals, etc. you will feel like left over compost. If your metals are to high/low, you will feel it.

Oh, and take bubble baths... lots of bubble baths. But make sure you don't have any 'girl reactions' to the soap you use. Why bubble baths? They help a tired body and make you feel really really good.

If you don't want to use soap, use a 1/2 cup of epson salt (or any salt as long as you are not allergic to iodine), 1/2 cup of sugar and a wee bit of olive oil. This will work as an exfoliant and keep your skin soft and smooth. It helps fight away the hypo reaction to constantly keep you dry.

I hope this helps.

Good luck Deana.

Re: Weakness and Tiredness

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were last in the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can barely cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low stamina, and tiredness.Any suggestions would really help,thanks alotDeana>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

thank you I will try each of these things, I am having so much trouble

its sad, I feel like I am dying and its not funny at all. Especially

with kids to take care of. I always feel like I am gonna throw up and I

have sweating spikes. I dont know whats wrong.

Deana

Teague wrote:

> have your doc check your other hormone levels, adrenal, testosterone,

> progestrine, estrogen, etc. they're all related. also have allergy

> tests done (I know you guys are tired of having that sentance come out

> of my mouth buy I swear it helps), make sure you are taking your pills

> like clockwork at the same times every day and going to bed with

> enough time to sleep (hypos usually need around 8+ hours per night).

> Also, make sure when you sleep you are getting deep sleep. A problem

> I used to have is my fibro pain would keep me from sleeping deeply

> (didn't dream for about a year and a half). When you know you're

> dreaming at night, you're sleeping deep enough.

>

> Another thing is, make sure you are sleeping when your body tells

> you. The first step in adequately listening to your body is to listen

> to how tired you are. Sleeping when you are tired is a must and

> probably the 1st real step into getting healthier BEFORE anything else

> including meds. Why? Because when you get the aches and pains and

> body fatigue away when your sleep cycles fix themselves, then you are

> able to really see what symptoms are hypo related and what symptoms

> are adrenal related, iron related, etc.

>

> That's another thing... have your iron checked. If you can't have

> your iron checked, get a good multi vitamin supplement that has

> everything in it your body needs to fuel itself. B complex

> supplements do this also. Try to avoid the b complex supplements that

> have ginseng, green tea extract, etc. they are really great at helping

> with energy & metabolism conversion but if you have allergies to these

> things or think you might it's going to take you in the opposite

> direction. After about 3 weeks on my vitamins I noticed I had a lot

> more energy.

>

> Getting your iron checked is another thing you can do. If your body

> is low on iron you will feel very very tired, very sluggish, very achy

> deep in your muscles, sometimes you will be pale around your lips,

> you'll feel like you're stretching out your muscles when you are

> sitting stationary... many different things. Taking a multivitamin

> will help this.

>

> My doc would probably freak if he saw my b complex supplement. It's

> liquid by Spring Valley it has 20,000% of my daily amount if B12 in

> it. NO that is not a typo. Every other B supplement I have is 100% +

> what is in my multi vitamin. Essentially I'm getting about 200% of my

> daily B complex.... but it helps. I can tell a HUGE difference in my

> adrenal levels and my energy. Selenium is helpful also in thyroid

> conversion. I don't take Selenium on it's own because it's in my

> multi. But, you can adjust that.

>

> After my adrenals crashed after about 3 days I lowered it to 1/4 (1cc

> is the full dose) for a few days, then 1/2 for a few days, in another

> week or two I will raise it to 3/4 then 1 full dose.

>

> Keep a journal and track how you feel. Make notes in it about 4-5

> times a day. Do this as soon as you get up in the morning, an hour

> after each meal and before you go to bed. Track what you ate, what

> was in it, how much you ate, how you felt 1 hour after eating it

> (symptoms worse, better, not different, etc.) also track your fluid

> intake as well. (taking your basal temp/pulse won't be bad either

> daily) track your symptoms to.

>

> What you will be looking for with that is possible allergens, if your

> thyroid/adrenal levels spike in the morning, afternoon, or at night.

> You'll also be looking for metabolic trends. (hence energy spikes).

> The vitamins will take about 3-6 weeks for you to feel anything but

> take them religiously at the same time every day. I recommend taking

> the B complex when you have your first drop in energy for the day and

> seeing over time if that helps.

>

> If you can also do this, track your weight and blood pressure once a

> week, daily or month on the same day. This will allow you to get into

> the habit of showing your doc you are a dilligent patient. Many

> grocery stores now have blood pressure machines, local gyms do, dr's

> offices do, etc. It doesn't matter if it isn't that accurate as long

> as you go to the same machines every time.

>

> When you are done with this for about a month's work of writing, take

> it to your doctor and show it to them. This is to convince your

> doctor that you are 100% serious about getting better and that you are

> willing to jump through the hoops you need to in order to do it.

> Always stay one step ahead of your doctors, stay knowledgible stay

> informed, if you have to take books to your doctor to explain links or

> draw it out for them, then you do it.

>

> Let your doc know if you feel better on the vitamins or worse, also

> make sure you write out all the symptoms you are currently still

> having that day. Drink at least 3 bottles (50-60 oz or so) of water

> daily. Don't count soda (high fructose can make your blood pressure &

> adrenals work over time), don't count juice (same here to.. your body

> may have problems processing the sugars), just count pure h2O and if

> possible, filter it or buy bottled rather than tap. Regular tap water

> has flouride added at the plant. Flouride is a good thing, it helps

> your teeth and bones stay strong, but totally screws up your thyroid

> production (flouride is for people that don't get enough calcium). I

> haven't drank flourinated water for over 2 years now and I assure you

> my teeth and bones are fine... that's what calcium is for .

>

> Have your doc do a chemical tox screening on you also down the line.

> If you have chemical sensitivities or lots of minerals, etc. you will

> feel like left over compost. If your metals are to high/low, you will

> feel it.

>

> Oh, and take bubble baths... lots of bubble baths. But make sure you

> don't have any 'girl reactions' to the soap you use. Why bubble

> baths? They help a tired body and make you feel really really good.

>

> If you don't want to use soap, use a 1/2 cup of epson salt (or any

> salt as long as you are not allergic to iodine), 1/2 cup of sugar and

> a wee bit of olive oil. This will work as an exfoliant and keep your

> skin soft and smooth. It helps fight away the hypo reaction to

> constantly keep you dry.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> Good luck Deana.

>

>

>

>

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> Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while. I am not sure how to keep

> going like this. I have Hashimotos disease, my antibodies were

> last in

> the 2000 range but my tsh lvls and other lvls were fine. But I can't

> get any stamina. I am very weak and tired all the time. I can

> barely

> cook three meals a day for my family much less keep up with the

> housework, barely and barely walk through the house. I am not

> considerabley overweight but just slightly. I have tried everything

> including vitamins and selenium but cant get beyond the weakness, low

> stamina, and tiredness.

>

> Any suggestions would really help,

>

> thanks alot

> Deana

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Okie doke!

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:09:10 -0600 Deana Brown writes:

I have new tests on the 23rd I will post those then.Deana

[Guest guest]

Okie doke!

Topper ()

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:09:10 -0600 Deana Brown writes:

I have new tests on the 23rd I will post those then.Deana