Re: Eating every three hours

[Guest guest]

YES!! I've been steadily gaining weight since I was 18 (125lbs to 200lbs)... the other day at my docs I weighed myself and I weighed 170lbs! It can be done! I've only been eating 'consistantly healthy' (minus allergies, lots of water, no high fructose, 99% organic/natural, no gym time) since May... when my weight started dropping. But, I must add... you might feel a bit 'off' while your body adjusts to not having so much weight on it when you start losing. Your periods will be off to. Then once your body adjusts to the working metabolism, you'll feel your levels get more normal.

Eating every three hours

Hi allSince mentioned that it was a good idea to eat every three hours or so (about six mini meals a day) I have tried dividing up my existing meals into 3 meals and 3 snacks, especially not wanting to add any more to my food intake as I am already piling on the pounds. :(Anyway, I'm quite intrigued by the effect. I've been doing it about a week now, and I have found that I've started feeling hungry in the morning before breakfast, even though I have a snack at about 9-10 pm the night before. Also, in this cold weather, I am particularly chilly in the middle of the evening (hands and feet, esp) but once I have had my small snack (usually two of my homemade chocolate covered brazil nuts), about 20 minutes later I feel the warmth spreading into my extremities. It is quite remarkable.I also wonder whether eating every three hours might help abate the feelings of depression. This morning I felt fine after breakfast, but by three hours later I was feeling quite a black despair, even though that should be about the time my Armour hormones should be at their peak. I thought I would try a snack, and I do feel a bit better now (about an hour later). Has anybody else found that eating in this way helps depression ... and in the longer term, does this boosting the metabolism help with losing weight??Katy

[Guest guest]

YES!! I've been steadily gaining weight since I was 18 (125lbs to 200lbs)... the other day at my docs I weighed myself and I weighed 170lbs! It can be done! I've only been eating 'consistantly healthy' (minus allergies, lots of water, no high fructose, 99% organic/natural, no gym time) since May... when my weight started dropping. But, I must add... you might feel a bit 'off' while your body adjusts to not having so much weight on it when you start losing. Your periods will be off to. Then once your body adjusts to the working metabolism, you'll feel your levels get more normal.

Eating every three hours

Hi allSince mentioned that it was a good idea to eat every three hours or so (about six mini meals a day) I have tried dividing up my existing meals into 3 meals and 3 snacks, especially not wanting to add any more to my food intake as I am already piling on the pounds. :(Anyway, I'm quite intrigued by the effect. I've been doing it about a week now, and I have found that I've started feeling hungry in the morning before breakfast, even though I have a snack at about 9-10 pm the night before. Also, in this cold weather, I am particularly chilly in the middle of the evening (hands and feet, esp) but once I have had my small snack (usually two of my homemade chocolate covered brazil nuts), about 20 minutes later I feel the warmth spreading into my extremities. It is quite remarkable.I also wonder whether eating every three hours might help abate the feelings of depression. This morning I felt fine after breakfast, but by three hours later I was feeling quite a black despair, even though that should be about the time my Armour hormones should be at their peak. I thought I would try a snack, and I do feel a bit better now (about an hour later). Has anybody else found that eating in this way helps depression ... and in the longer term, does this boosting the metabolism help with losing weight??Katy

[Guest guest]

YES!! I've been steadily gaining weight since I was 18 (125lbs to 200lbs)... the other day at my docs I weighed myself and I weighed 170lbs! It can be done! I've only been eating 'consistantly healthy' (minus allergies, lots of water, no high fructose, 99% organic/natural, no gym time) since May... when my weight started dropping. But, I must add... you might feel a bit 'off' while your body adjusts to not having so much weight on it when you start losing. Your periods will be off to. Then once your body adjusts to the working metabolism, you'll feel your levels get more normal.

Eating every three hours

Hi allSince mentioned that it was a good idea to eat every three hours or so (about six mini meals a day) I have tried dividing up my existing meals into 3 meals and 3 snacks, especially not wanting to add any more to my food intake as I am already piling on the pounds. :(Anyway, I'm quite intrigued by the effect. I've been doing it about a week now, and I have found that I've started feeling hungry in the morning before breakfast, even though I have a snack at about 9-10 pm the night before. Also, in this cold weather, I am particularly chilly in the middle of the evening (hands and feet, esp) but once I have had my small snack (usually two of my homemade chocolate covered brazil nuts), about 20 minutes later I feel the warmth spreading into my extremities. It is quite remarkable.I also wonder whether eating every three hours might help abate the feelings of depression. This morning I felt fine after breakfast, but by three hours later I was feeling quite a black despair, even though that should be about the time my Armour hormones should be at their peak. I thought I would try a snack, and I do feel a bit better now (about an hour later). Has anybody else found that eating in this way helps depression ... and in the longer term, does this boosting the metabolism help with losing weight??Katy

[Guest guest]

Ain't it just neat how it works??

The warmth taking over after the meal.. that's an indication that what you're eating is being burned, used as energy and not stored as fat... and the lifting of the 'blah' feeling.. that too is cuz your body is getting energy now and not just more work..

When we eat big meals, lots of food at one time, our poor bodies, having so much trouble completing tasks, muscles that tire so easily... all that food all at once, our tired muscles and slow metabolism just can't handle it all... it sits too long, the slow metabolism triggers the process of turning the calories into fat and not energy.... when it all starts to work right.... we feel better... and our body starts to get rid of the excess that it's so tired of carrying around....

It was so easy before... when our bodies worked right...when we could chow down a good meal and then go all day without stopping.... but now.... it's just one of the things that we have to consciously keep track of now... small shots of fuel and nutrition so that our bodies can process it all and not end up with a cannon ball in our gut!

Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body needs to maintain it's healthy weight....

Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what their body needs!

Topper ()

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:15:58 -0000 "Katy" writes:

Hi allSince mentioned that it was a good idea to eat every three hours or so (about six mini meals a day) I have tried dividing up my existing meals into 3 meals and 3 snacks, especially not wanting to add any more to my food intake as I am already piling on the pounds. :(Anyway, I'm quite intrigued by the effect. I've been doing it about a week now, and I have found that I've started feeling hungry in the morning before breakfast, even though I have a snack at about 9-10 pm the night before. Also, in this cold weather, I am particularly chilly in the middle of the evening (hands and feet, esp) but once I have had my small snack (usually two of my homemade chocolate covered brazil nuts), about 20 minutes later I feel the warmth spreading into my extremities. It is quite remarkable.I also wonder whether eating every three hours might help abate the feelings of depression. This morning I felt fine after breakfast, but by three hours later I was feeling quite a black despair, even though that should be about the time my Armour hormones should be at their peak. I thought I would try a snack, and I do feel a bit better now (about an hour later). Has anybody else found that eating in this way helps depression ... and in the longer term, does this boosting the metabolism help with losing weight??Katy

[Guest guest]

Ain't it just neat how it works??

The warmth taking over after the meal.. that's an indication that what you're eating is being burned, used as energy and not stored as fat... and the lifting of the 'blah' feeling.. that too is cuz your body is getting energy now and not just more work..

When we eat big meals, lots of food at one time, our poor bodies, having so much trouble completing tasks, muscles that tire so easily... all that food all at once, our tired muscles and slow metabolism just can't handle it all... it sits too long, the slow metabolism triggers the process of turning the calories into fat and not energy.... when it all starts to work right.... we feel better... and our body starts to get rid of the excess that it's so tired of carrying around....

It was so easy before... when our bodies worked right...when we could chow down a good meal and then go all day without stopping.... but now.... it's just one of the things that we have to consciously keep track of now... small shots of fuel and nutrition so that our bodies can process it all and not end up with a cannon ball in our gut!

Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body needs to maintain it's healthy weight....

Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what their body needs!

Topper ()

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:15:58 -0000 "Katy" writes:

Hi allSince mentioned that it was a good idea to eat every three hours or so (about six mini meals a day) I have tried dividing up my existing meals into 3 meals and 3 snacks, especially not wanting to add any more to my food intake as I am already piling on the pounds. :(Anyway, I'm quite intrigued by the effect. I've been doing it about a week now, and I have found that I've started feeling hungry in the morning before breakfast, even though I have a snack at about 9-10 pm the night before. Also, in this cold weather, I am particularly chilly in the middle of the evening (hands and feet, esp) but once I have had my small snack (usually two of my homemade chocolate covered brazil nuts), about 20 minutes later I feel the warmth spreading into my extremities. It is quite remarkable.I also wonder whether eating every three hours might help abate the feelings of depression. This morning I felt fine after breakfast, but by three hours later I was feeling quite a black despair, even though that should be about the time my Armour hormones should be at their peak. I thought I would try a snack, and I do feel a bit better now (about an hour later). Has anybody else found that eating in this way helps depression ... and in the longer term, does this boosting the metabolism help with losing weight??Katy

[Guest guest]

Ain't it just neat how it works??

The warmth taking over after the meal.. that's an indication that what you're eating is being burned, used as energy and not stored as fat... and the lifting of the 'blah' feeling.. that too is cuz your body is getting energy now and not just more work..

When we eat big meals, lots of food at one time, our poor bodies, having so much trouble completing tasks, muscles that tire so easily... all that food all at once, our tired muscles and slow metabolism just can't handle it all... it sits too long, the slow metabolism triggers the process of turning the calories into fat and not energy.... when it all starts to work right.... we feel better... and our body starts to get rid of the excess that it's so tired of carrying around....

It was so easy before... when our bodies worked right...when we could chow down a good meal and then go all day without stopping.... but now.... it's just one of the things that we have to consciously keep track of now... small shots of fuel and nutrition so that our bodies can process it all and not end up with a cannon ball in our gut!

Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body needs to maintain it's healthy weight....

Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what their body needs!

Topper ()

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:15:58 -0000 "Katy" writes:

Hi allSince mentioned that it was a good idea to eat every three hours or so (about six mini meals a day) I have tried dividing up my existing meals into 3 meals and 3 snacks, especially not wanting to add any more to my food intake as I am already piling on the pounds. :(Anyway, I'm quite intrigued by the effect. I've been doing it about a week now, and I have found that I've started feeling hungry in the morning before breakfast, even though I have a snack at about 9-10 pm the night before. Also, in this cold weather, I am particularly chilly in the middle of the evening (hands and feet, esp) but once I have had my small snack (usually two of my homemade chocolate covered brazil nuts), about 20 minutes later I feel the warmth spreading into my extremities. It is quite remarkable.I also wonder whether eating every three hours might help abate the feelings of depression. This morning I felt fine after breakfast, but by three hours later I was feeling quite a black despair, even though that should be about the time my Armour hormones should be at their peak. I thought I would try a snack, and I do feel a bit better now (about an hour later). Has anybody else found that eating in this way helps depression ... and in the longer term, does this boosting the metabolism help with losing weight??Katy

[Guest guest]

>>

> Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body

> needs to maintain it's healthy weight....

Aha - well therein lies the rub! (is that just an English saying?)

How to be sure that you are not overeating? Since I am rarely hungry,

remembering to eat every three hours or so is enough of a problem,

never mind whether I am eating too much! How do you know?!

>

> Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of

what

> their body needs!

but my cynical British bone (heard of those?) is saying quietly -

let's just wait and see about that ...

Katy

[Guest guest]

There's a mathematical formula that gets you close.

Take your HEALTHY goal weight and multiply by 15. That gives you the number of calories per day needed to maintain that weight for person of normal metabolic rate.

So if your healthy weight is 150 pounds, multiplied by 15, would be 2250 calories. I came up with a mythical figure to modify that, to account for the slower metabolism of a hyper person... that number is 10 percent. So, rounding it off... if your healthy weight is 150 you'd want to eat a total of about 2000 calories a day. To maintain a weight of 150. ( just pulled that number out as an example.... not everyone here is built to weight that amount, some folks are built with smaller frames, some with heavier, if I'm under 200 I'm getting sickly myself).

So, for those of us that are working on increasing our metabolism again, getting our energy up, getting our muscles moving and growing again, and getting our body temps up, we need to eat in a way that stimulates the metabolism to increase/maintain and to not shut itself down, negating all we are doing in taking hormones and vitamins and supplements to get our bodies healthy again. We can actually under eat ourselves to be fat and tired....

So.. the great math gurus team up with the scientists and determined that it's okay to lose as much as 1 to 2 percent of your body weight per week and not trigger the body into dropping it's metabolism in reaction to a perceived state of starvation. For healthy folks that isn't such a delicate balance, for us, with metabolisms that are all mucked up from low thyroid hormones, it's a very delicate balance.

We can talk more about this, for those that are interested... but I'll bring up just one important thing now, then let you ponder.

If you're dealing with a metabolism that is slowed down from low thyroid hormones and not eating right, it's very common to gain after getting your calories up to where they need to be to get the metabolism stimulated into working right... that scares a lot of folks away and they drop their calories too low again... but if you do that, you can't get your metabolism and energy levels up to where you want them to be to feel good. But if you can get passed that part and hang on until your metabolism kicks back up.. then the weight starts coming off.

For me, when I started doing this, I actually had to kick my calories up a bit. But when I first started figuring out what I was eating, and what had maintained my weight. I found that my one or two meals a day totaled pretty close to where I should be using the math for goal weight and maintenance calories... but by kicking up the calories a bit to get it closer, and then splitting it into mini meals.. that's what got the weight coming off.

Gradual changes, I think, are the key. To slowly move your body in the right direction so that it can make the adjustments that it needs to make.

It's a pain in the butt that we have to change so many things, do so many little things different... but our bodies, for many of us, can't handle a lot of stuff that it used to do automatically and without hitch. But once we get the hang of how to time things, to help our bodies.... things start to work better... and the reward is feeling better.

IMHO, of course....

Topper () *who still has the pair of pants that kept falling off after switching to mini meals, a full 8 inches wider than the pants that I have on right now.. and the leather coat that I couldn't even close enough to zip has a six inch over lap in the front now*

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:21:53 -0000 "Katy" writes:

>> > Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body> needs to maintain it's healthy weight.... Aha - well therein lies the rub! (is that just an English saying?) How to be sure that you are not overeating? Since I am rarely hungry, remembering to eat every three hours or so is enough of a problem, never mind whether I am eating too much! How do you know?!> > Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what> their body needs! but my cynical British bone (heard of those?) is saying quietly - let's just wait and see about that ... :)Katy

[Guest guest]

There's a mathematical formula that gets you close.

Take your HEALTHY goal weight and multiply by 15. That gives you the number of calories per day needed to maintain that weight for person of normal metabolic rate.

So if your healthy weight is 150 pounds, multiplied by 15, would be 2250 calories. I came up with a mythical figure to modify that, to account for the slower metabolism of a hyper person... that number is 10 percent. So, rounding it off... if your healthy weight is 150 you'd want to eat a total of about 2000 calories a day. To maintain a weight of 150. ( just pulled that number out as an example.... not everyone here is built to weight that amount, some folks are built with smaller frames, some with heavier, if I'm under 200 I'm getting sickly myself).

So, for those of us that are working on increasing our metabolism again, getting our energy up, getting our muscles moving and growing again, and getting our body temps up, we need to eat in a way that stimulates the metabolism to increase/maintain and to not shut itself down, negating all we are doing in taking hormones and vitamins and supplements to get our bodies healthy again. We can actually under eat ourselves to be fat and tired....

So.. the great math gurus team up with the scientists and determined that it's okay to lose as much as 1 to 2 percent of your body weight per week and not trigger the body into dropping it's metabolism in reaction to a perceived state of starvation. For healthy folks that isn't such a delicate balance, for us, with metabolisms that are all mucked up from low thyroid hormones, it's a very delicate balance.

We can talk more about this, for those that are interested... but I'll bring up just one important thing now, then let you ponder.

If you're dealing with a metabolism that is slowed down from low thyroid hormones and not eating right, it's very common to gain after getting your calories up to where they need to be to get the metabolism stimulated into working right... that scares a lot of folks away and they drop their calories too low again... but if you do that, you can't get your metabolism and energy levels up to where you want them to be to feel good. But if you can get passed that part and hang on until your metabolism kicks back up.. then the weight starts coming off.

For me, when I started doing this, I actually had to kick my calories up a bit. But when I first started figuring out what I was eating, and what had maintained my weight. I found that my one or two meals a day totaled pretty close to where I should be using the math for goal weight and maintenance calories... but by kicking up the calories a bit to get it closer, and then splitting it into mini meals.. that's what got the weight coming off.

Gradual changes, I think, are the key. To slowly move your body in the right direction so that it can make the adjustments that it needs to make.

It's a pain in the butt that we have to change so many things, do so many little things different... but our bodies, for many of us, can't handle a lot of stuff that it used to do automatically and without hitch. But once we get the hang of how to time things, to help our bodies.... things start to work better... and the reward is feeling better.

IMHO, of course....

Topper () *who still has the pair of pants that kept falling off after switching to mini meals, a full 8 inches wider than the pants that I have on right now.. and the leather coat that I couldn't even close enough to zip has a six inch over lap in the front now*

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:21:53 -0000 "Katy" writes:

>> > Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body> needs to maintain it's healthy weight.... Aha - well therein lies the rub! (is that just an English saying?) How to be sure that you are not overeating? Since I am rarely hungry, remembering to eat every three hours or so is enough of a problem, never mind whether I am eating too much! How do you know?!> > Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what> their body needs! but my cynical British bone (heard of those?) is saying quietly - let's just wait and see about that ... :)Katy

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean.... I used to buy clothes from Lane (god bless them I was there every week) lol. Now I can only wear the store's jewelry and scarves lol. I've decided when my weight level offs, I will start buying clothes but until then it will just be a waste of money. However, having my clothes not fit... I feel like a clown in those big baggy suspender pants. Now.... If I can just find my squirt flower...

andrea

Re: Re: Eating every three hours

There's a mathematical formula that gets you close.

Take your HEALTHY goal weight and multiply by 15. That gives you the number of calories per day needed to maintain that weight for person of normal metabolic rate.

So if your healthy weight is 150 pounds, multiplied by 15, would be 2250 calories. I came up with a mythical figure to modify that, to account for the slower metabolism of a hyper person... that number is 10 percent. So, rounding it off... if your healthy weight is 150 you'd want to eat a total of about 2000 calories a day. To maintain a weight of 150. ( just pulled that number out as an example.... not everyone here is built to weight that amount, some folks are built with smaller frames, some with heavier, if I'm under 200 I'm getting sickly myself).

So, for those of us that are working on increasing our metabolism again, getting our energy up, getting our muscles moving and growing again, and getting our body temps up, we need to eat in a way that stimulates the metabolism to increase/maintain and to not shut itself down, negating all we are doing in taking hormones and vitamins and supplements to get our bodies healthy again. We can actually under eat ourselves to be fat and tired....

So.. the great math gurus team up with the scientists and determined that it's okay to lose as much as 1 to 2 percent of your body weight per week and not trigger the body into dropping it's metabolism in reaction to a perceived state of starvation. For healthy folks that isn't such a delicate balance, for us, with metabolisms that are all mucked up from low thyroid hormones, it's a very delicate balance.

We can talk more about this, for those that are interested... but I'll bring up just one important thing now, then let you ponder.

If you're dealing with a metabolism that is slowed down from low thyroid hormones and not eating right, it's very common to gain after getting your calories up to where they need to be to get the metabolism stimulated into working right... that scares a lot of folks away and they drop their calories too low again... but if you do that, you can't get your metabolism and energy levels up to where you want them to be to feel good. But if you can get passed that part and hang on until your metabolism kicks back up.. then the weight starts coming off.

For me, when I started doing this, I actually had to kick my calories up a bit. But when I first started figuring out what I was eating, and what had maintained my weight. I found that my one or two meals a day totaled pretty close to where I should be using the math for goal weight and maintenance calories... but by kicking up the calories a bit to get it closer, and then splitting it into mini meals.. that's what got the weight coming off.

Gradual changes, I think, are the key. To slowly move your body in the right direction so that it can make the adjustments that it needs to make.

It's a pain in the butt that we have to change so many things, do so many little things different... but our bodies, for many of us, can't handle a lot of stuff that it used to do automatically and without hitch. But once we get the hang of how to time things, to help our bodies.... things start to work better... and the reward is feeling better.

IMHO, of course....

Topper () *who still has the pair of pants that kept falling off after switching to mini meals, a full 8 inches wider than the pants that I have on right now.. and the leather coat that I couldn't even close enough to zip has a six inch over lap in the front now*

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:21:53 -0000 "Katy" writes:

>> > Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body> needs to maintain it's healthy weight.... Aha - well therein lies the rub! (is that just an English saying?) How to be sure that you are not overeating? Since I am rarely hungry, remembering to eat every three hours or so is enough of a problem, never mind whether I am eating too much! How do you know?!> > Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what> their body needs! but my cynical British bone (heard of those?) is saying quietly - let's just wait and see about that ... :)Katy

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean.... I used to buy clothes from Lane (god bless them I was there every week) lol. Now I can only wear the store's jewelry and scarves lol. I've decided when my weight level offs, I will start buying clothes but until then it will just be a waste of money. However, having my clothes not fit... I feel like a clown in those big baggy suspender pants. Now.... If I can just find my squirt flower...

andrea

Re: Re: Eating every three hours

There's a mathematical formula that gets you close.

Take your HEALTHY goal weight and multiply by 15. That gives you the number of calories per day needed to maintain that weight for person of normal metabolic rate.

So if your healthy weight is 150 pounds, multiplied by 15, would be 2250 calories. I came up with a mythical figure to modify that, to account for the slower metabolism of a hyper person... that number is 10 percent. So, rounding it off... if your healthy weight is 150 you'd want to eat a total of about 2000 calories a day. To maintain a weight of 150. ( just pulled that number out as an example.... not everyone here is built to weight that amount, some folks are built with smaller frames, some with heavier, if I'm under 200 I'm getting sickly myself).

So, for those of us that are working on increasing our metabolism again, getting our energy up, getting our muscles moving and growing again, and getting our body temps up, we need to eat in a way that stimulates the metabolism to increase/maintain and to not shut itself down, negating all we are doing in taking hormones and vitamins and supplements to get our bodies healthy again. We can actually under eat ourselves to be fat and tired....

So.. the great math gurus team up with the scientists and determined that it's okay to lose as much as 1 to 2 percent of your body weight per week and not trigger the body into dropping it's metabolism in reaction to a perceived state of starvation. For healthy folks that isn't such a delicate balance, for us, with metabolisms that are all mucked up from low thyroid hormones, it's a very delicate balance.

We can talk more about this, for those that are interested... but I'll bring up just one important thing now, then let you ponder.

If you're dealing with a metabolism that is slowed down from low thyroid hormones and not eating right, it's very common to gain after getting your calories up to where they need to be to get the metabolism stimulated into working right... that scares a lot of folks away and they drop their calories too low again... but if you do that, you can't get your metabolism and energy levels up to where you want them to be to feel good. But if you can get passed that part and hang on until your metabolism kicks back up.. then the weight starts coming off.

For me, when I started doing this, I actually had to kick my calories up a bit. But when I first started figuring out what I was eating, and what had maintained my weight. I found that my one or two meals a day totaled pretty close to where I should be using the math for goal weight and maintenance calories... but by kicking up the calories a bit to get it closer, and then splitting it into mini meals.. that's what got the weight coming off.

Gradual changes, I think, are the key. To slowly move your body in the right direction so that it can make the adjustments that it needs to make.

It's a pain in the butt that we have to change so many things, do so many little things different... but our bodies, for many of us, can't handle a lot of stuff that it used to do automatically and without hitch. But once we get the hang of how to time things, to help our bodies.... things start to work better... and the reward is feeling better.

IMHO, of course....

Topper () *who still has the pair of pants that kept falling off after switching to mini meals, a full 8 inches wider than the pants that I have on right now.. and the leather coat that I couldn't even close enough to zip has a six inch over lap in the front now*

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:21:53 -0000 "Katy" writes:

>> > Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body> needs to maintain it's healthy weight.... Aha - well therein lies the rub! (is that just an English saying?) How to be sure that you are not overeating? Since I am rarely hungry, remembering to eat every three hours or so is enough of a problem, never mind whether I am eating too much! How do you know?!> > Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what> their body needs! but my cynical British bone (heard of those?) is saying quietly - let's just wait and see about that ... :)Katy

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean.... I used to buy clothes from Lane (god bless them I was there every week) lol. Now I can only wear the store's jewelry and scarves lol. I've decided when my weight level offs, I will start buying clothes but until then it will just be a waste of money. However, having my clothes not fit... I feel like a clown in those big baggy suspender pants. Now.... If I can just find my squirt flower...

andrea

Re: Re: Eating every three hours

There's a mathematical formula that gets you close.

Take your HEALTHY goal weight and multiply by 15. That gives you the number of calories per day needed to maintain that weight for person of normal metabolic rate.

So if your healthy weight is 150 pounds, multiplied by 15, would be 2250 calories. I came up with a mythical figure to modify that, to account for the slower metabolism of a hyper person... that number is 10 percent. So, rounding it off... if your healthy weight is 150 you'd want to eat a total of about 2000 calories a day. To maintain a weight of 150. ( just pulled that number out as an example.... not everyone here is built to weight that amount, some folks are built with smaller frames, some with heavier, if I'm under 200 I'm getting sickly myself).

So, for those of us that are working on increasing our metabolism again, getting our energy up, getting our muscles moving and growing again, and getting our body temps up, we need to eat in a way that stimulates the metabolism to increase/maintain and to not shut itself down, negating all we are doing in taking hormones and vitamins and supplements to get our bodies healthy again. We can actually under eat ourselves to be fat and tired....

So.. the great math gurus team up with the scientists and determined that it's okay to lose as much as 1 to 2 percent of your body weight per week and not trigger the body into dropping it's metabolism in reaction to a perceived state of starvation. For healthy folks that isn't such a delicate balance, for us, with metabolisms that are all mucked up from low thyroid hormones, it's a very delicate balance.

We can talk more about this, for those that are interested... but I'll bring up just one important thing now, then let you ponder.

If you're dealing with a metabolism that is slowed down from low thyroid hormones and not eating right, it's very common to gain after getting your calories up to where they need to be to get the metabolism stimulated into working right... that scares a lot of folks away and they drop their calories too low again... but if you do that, you can't get your metabolism and energy levels up to where you want them to be to feel good. But if you can get passed that part and hang on until your metabolism kicks back up.. then the weight starts coming off.

For me, when I started doing this, I actually had to kick my calories up a bit. But when I first started figuring out what I was eating, and what had maintained my weight. I found that my one or two meals a day totaled pretty close to where I should be using the math for goal weight and maintenance calories... but by kicking up the calories a bit to get it closer, and then splitting it into mini meals.. that's what got the weight coming off.

Gradual changes, I think, are the key. To slowly move your body in the right direction so that it can make the adjustments that it needs to make.

It's a pain in the butt that we have to change so many things, do so many little things different... but our bodies, for many of us, can't handle a lot of stuff that it used to do automatically and without hitch. But once we get the hang of how to time things, to help our bodies.... things start to work better... and the reward is feeling better.

IMHO, of course....

Topper () *who still has the pair of pants that kept falling off after switching to mini meals, a full 8 inches wider than the pants that I have on right now.. and the leather coat that I couldn't even close enough to zip has a six inch over lap in the front now*

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:21:53 -0000 "Katy" writes:

>> > Just don't get carried away and eat more calories than what your body> needs to maintain it's healthy weight.... Aha - well therein lies the rub! (is that just an English saying?) How to be sure that you are not overeating? Since I am rarely hungry, remembering to eat every three hours or so is enough of a problem, never mind whether I am eating too much! How do you know?!> > Happy happy joy joy dancing that someone else is getting the hang of what> their body needs! but my cynical British bone (heard of those?) is saying quietly - let's just wait and see about that ... :)Katy

[Guest guest]

You should have seen me!!! I couldn't keep my pants up so I used suspenders. Then they were getting so baggy that one day when I had been working on dad's puter in the kitchen, I got up from the chair and the baggy pants with the waste band that was all ballooned out caught the corner of the table... and of course the suspenders let go and my pants started to go down, almost flashed my dad! Not long after that I was bending over to get a mini meal out of the fridge and the act of bending shifted the drape of the pants so that the suspenders were the only thing holding them and the clips let go and if not for the fridge door being between me and Ruth I came close to flashing her!

After that I spent most of the time with one hand in the pocket of my jeans, looking 'cool' as I held the pants up, so that they wouldn't fall down.

With the loss off my butt and thighs the pants legs were hanging longer on me and I was walking on the cuffs.

Unreal... I mean for all the years I struggled it just started coming off all by itself.... Still have a long way to go.. .but now I know what to do...

I know, I know!!! Lets do the ThyroPhoenix as a squirt!! hehehehehe

Topper ()

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:12:14 -0500 " Teague" writes:

I know what you mean.... I used to buy clothes from Lane (god bless them I was there every week) lol. Now I can only wear the store's jewelry and scarves lol. I've decided when my weight level offs, I will start buying clothes but until then it will just be a waste of money. However, having my clothes not fit... I feel like a clown in those big baggy suspender pants. Now.... If I can just find my squirt flower...

andrea