Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, fevers... My daughter's Dr. said that she should not take Ibuprofin (advil) but that Aceteminophen (tylenol) is perfectly safe. She has come down with a cold/flu and when buying medicine for her today I was careful to read the labels and consult the pharmacist. He didn't think that Aceteminophen was very good for the liver. The medicine I ended up getting didn't have either one in it, but there is still the matter of aches/pains/fever. Amber has had headaches since she was a little girl and often takes Tylenol, now I'm worried and confused. What do you all take for pain relief? Kim Mother of Amber (17) UC 12/05 PSC 03/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 > > What do you all take for pain relief? > > Kim > Mother of Amber (17) > UC 12/05 PSC 03/06 Kim, If your doctor has said to use tylenol, then go for it. Pharmacists can be more concerned about things in general. (I was prescribed bactrim and coumadin together - doc isn't worried because I get my INR checked weekly, but the pharmacist nearly freaked!) Prior to tx, I was always told that tylenol was better than ibuprofin. I'd watch the amount, certainly. Post-tx, I'm allowed a maximum of 2 grams per day. That's four extra-strength tylenol pills in 24 hours. Make sure she's staying hydrated through the aches/pains/fever - those are all hard on the body by themselves. I'm sorry to hear that she's suffering so - hopefully the flu part will pass soon. Take care, Deb in VA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 > > What do you all take for pain relief? > > Kim > Mother of Amber (17) > UC 12/05 PSC 03/06 Kim, If your doctor has said to use tylenol, then go for it. Pharmacists can be more concerned about things in general. (I was prescribed bactrim and coumadin together - doc isn't worried because I get my INR checked weekly, but the pharmacist nearly freaked!) Prior to tx, I was always told that tylenol was better than ibuprofin. I'd watch the amount, certainly. Post-tx, I'm allowed a maximum of 2 grams per day. That's four extra-strength tylenol pills in 24 hours. Make sure she's staying hydrated through the aches/pains/fever - those are all hard on the body by themselves. I'm sorry to hear that she's suffering so - hopefully the flu part will pass soon. Take care, Deb in VA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 > > What do you all take for pain relief? > > Kim > Mother of Amber (17) > UC 12/05 PSC 03/06 Kim, If your doctor has said to use tylenol, then go for it. Pharmacists can be more concerned about things in general. (I was prescribed bactrim and coumadin together - doc isn't worried because I get my INR checked weekly, but the pharmacist nearly freaked!) Prior to tx, I was always told that tylenol was better than ibuprofin. I'd watch the amount, certainly. Post-tx, I'm allowed a maximum of 2 grams per day. That's four extra-strength tylenol pills in 24 hours. Make sure she's staying hydrated through the aches/pains/fever - those are all hard on the body by themselves. I'm sorry to hear that she's suffering so - hopefully the flu part will pass soon. Take care, Deb in VA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 km_onlinetemps wrote: > Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, > fevers... > > My daughter's Dr. said that she should not take Ibuprofin (advil) > but that Aceteminophen (tylenol) is perfectly safe. My doctor gave the same advice, although he recommended that I only take half the recommended dose of tylenol. Tylenol is processed by the liver, but from what I've read, it doesn't actually damage it at all unless the maximum safe dose is exceeded. In other words, it's not like a little bit of tylenol does a little bit of damage, and a lot does a lot of damage. To much can cause liver failure, but as long as you stay well below that threshold, it's really pretty safe. If you're still concerned about it, you may ask your doctor if she should take a reduced dose of tylenol, or if the regular dose is OK. athan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 km_onlinetemps wrote: > Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, > fevers... > > My daughter's Dr. said that she should not take Ibuprofin (advil) > but that Aceteminophen (tylenol) is perfectly safe. My doctor gave the same advice, although he recommended that I only take half the recommended dose of tylenol. Tylenol is processed by the liver, but from what I've read, it doesn't actually damage it at all unless the maximum safe dose is exceeded. In other words, it's not like a little bit of tylenol does a little bit of damage, and a lot does a lot of damage. To much can cause liver failure, but as long as you stay well below that threshold, it's really pretty safe. If you're still concerned about it, you may ask your doctor if she should take a reduced dose of tylenol, or if the regular dose is OK. athan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 km_onlinetemps wrote: > Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, > fevers... > > My daughter's Dr. said that she should not take Ibuprofin (advil) > but that Aceteminophen (tylenol) is perfectly safe. My doctor gave the same advice, although he recommended that I only take half the recommended dose of tylenol. Tylenol is processed by the liver, but from what I've read, it doesn't actually damage it at all unless the maximum safe dose is exceeded. In other words, it's not like a little bit of tylenol does a little bit of damage, and a lot does a lot of damage. To much can cause liver failure, but as long as you stay well below that threshold, it's really pretty safe. If you're still concerned about it, you may ask your doctor if she should take a reduced dose of tylenol, or if the regular dose is OK. athan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks . Do you normally take extra strenth tylenol or just regular? Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks . Do you normally take extra strenth tylenol or just regular? Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks . Do you normally take extra strenth tylenol or just regular? Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 > What do you all take for pain relief? > > My Gastro has always told me to take Advil over Tylenol. Betsy UC 2000 PSC 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 takes aceteminophen - all her doctors told her not to take ibuprofin before the transplant because of the risk of the varices bleeding and, then, after the transplant, because it is hard on the kidneys as are the transplant drugs. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Kim MO Amber I'm a Tylenol person since aspirin products are nixed for us Pouchitis and UC types. It's OKed by my hep too! Best jd, 45 UC 1973, Jpouch 2000, Chronic Pouchitis 2001, PSC 2004, Stage 3 Southern, IL Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, fevers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Kim MO Amber I'm a Tylenol person since aspirin products are nixed for us Pouchitis and UC types. It's OKed by my hep too! Best jd, 45 UC 1973, Jpouch 2000, Chronic Pouchitis 2001, PSC 2004, Stage 3 Southern, IL Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, fevers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Kim MO Amber I'm a Tylenol person since aspirin products are nixed for us Pouchitis and UC types. It's OKed by my hep too! Best jd, 45 UC 1973, Jpouch 2000, Chronic Pouchitis 2001, PSC 2004, Stage 3 Southern, IL Can anyone tell me what they take for pain such as headaches, flu's, fevers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello...for pain i smoke marijuana...my liver cannot handle painkillers anymore...last time i was in the hospital i got more sick from the painkillers than i was when i went in...i now have a medical marijuania license to smoke or eat it....the cannoboids actually reduce inflammation...its the only thing that works anymore for pain and a flare up....i recommend it to anyone...try it before you condemn it if nothing else is working...kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Interesting Kat....so I'm assuiming your Dr. is OK with this since you have an actual medical license. Would eating it, rather than smoking it, be more harmful as it must be processed by the liver? Kim > > hello...for pain i smoke marijuana...my liver cannot handle painkillers anymore...last time i was in the hospital i got more sick from the painkillers than i was when i went in...i now have a medical marijuania license to smoke or eat it....the cannoboids actually reduce inflammation...its the only thing that works anymore for pain and a flare up....i recommend it to anyone...try it before you condemn it if nothing else is working...kat > > > " i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord... " kat > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello.....the problem with the docs is that they do not want to be liable because of the lung disease...the health canada website that deals with medical marijuana has a link to a waiver that u bring to the doc and she/he signs it...says that me or my family will not sue the doc if i develop lung cancer etc...as a result of smoking marijuania...i did go thru a long process of educating the docs....i compiled a lot of research and brought it with me and i would not give up and i got upset with them a few times and even threatened to go to the media as it is my right as a canadian to use medical mj as i am not able to take the standard treatment for crohns...ie steroids....i have an extreme reaction to steriods and would never never take them again...my mom died from steriod complications ...her immune system collasped and she finally had surgery to remove her colon but died because she caught a super bug...from the operation equip...it ate her lungs out from the inside and died an extremely painful death...we know we sat with her through it...modern medicine could not even touch her pain..she died like a dog....i have completely rejected docs and modern med and treat myself as much as possible with herbs and diet...i have bad days but have all my organs and no major surgery yet!!...i look great most of the time but it is a struggle...actually one of the best research articles i discovered through this newsgroup...that cannoboid alkaloids actually reduce imflammation....and really works for my crohns...so my docs eventually were persuaded or got worn out...but once they were off the hook for the smoking i got the license....my research so far suggests that the only problem with marijuania and the liver seems to be if u had moldy weed...toxins associated with that would show up in the liver...but a good source or growing your own and proper drying etc would take care of that...hope this helps and let me know if i can answer any other questions....take care kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello.....the problem with the docs is that they do not want to be liable because of the lung disease...the health canada website that deals with medical marijuana has a link to a waiver that u bring to the doc and she/he signs it...says that me or my family will not sue the doc if i develop lung cancer etc...as a result of smoking marijuania...i did go thru a long process of educating the docs....i compiled a lot of research and brought it with me and i would not give up and i got upset with them a few times and even threatened to go to the media as it is my right as a canadian to use medical mj as i am not able to take the standard treatment for crohns...ie steroids....i have an extreme reaction to steriods and would never never take them again...my mom died from steriod complications ...her immune system collasped and she finally had surgery to remove her colon but died because she caught a super bug...from the operation equip...it ate her lungs out from the inside and died an extremely painful death...we know we sat with her through it...modern medicine could not even touch her pain..she died like a dog....i have completely rejected docs and modern med and treat myself as much as possible with herbs and diet...i have bad days but have all my organs and no major surgery yet!!...i look great most of the time but it is a struggle...actually one of the best research articles i discovered through this newsgroup...that cannoboid alkaloids actually reduce imflammation....and really works for my crohns...so my docs eventually were persuaded or got worn out...but once they were off the hook for the smoking i got the license....my research so far suggests that the only problem with marijuania and the liver seems to be if u had moldy weed...toxins associated with that would show up in the liver...but a good source or growing your own and proper drying etc would take care of that...hope this helps and let me know if i can answer any other questions....take care kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello.....the problem with the docs is that they do not want to be liable because of the lung disease...the health canada website that deals with medical marijuana has a link to a waiver that u bring to the doc and she/he signs it...says that me or my family will not sue the doc if i develop lung cancer etc...as a result of smoking marijuania...i did go thru a long process of educating the docs....i compiled a lot of research and brought it with me and i would not give up and i got upset with them a few times and even threatened to go to the media as it is my right as a canadian to use medical mj as i am not able to take the standard treatment for crohns...ie steroids....i have an extreme reaction to steriods and would never never take them again...my mom died from steriod complications ...her immune system collasped and she finally had surgery to remove her colon but died because she caught a super bug...from the operation equip...it ate her lungs out from the inside and died an extremely painful death...we know we sat with her through it...modern medicine could not even touch her pain..she died like a dog....i have completely rejected docs and modern med and treat myself as much as possible with herbs and diet...i have bad days but have all my organs and no major surgery yet!!...i look great most of the time but it is a struggle...actually one of the best research articles i discovered through this newsgroup...that cannoboid alkaloids actually reduce imflammation....and really works for my crohns...so my docs eventually were persuaded or got worn out...but once they were off the hook for the smoking i got the license....my research so far suggests that the only problem with marijuania and the liver seems to be if u had moldy weed...toxins associated with that would show up in the liver...but a good source or growing your own and proper drying etc would take care of that...hope this helps and let me know if i can answer any other questions....take care kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello...i have read ...i think it was on the american crohns and colitis foundation website... that tylenol is the number one drug induced cause of liver disease...perhaps this is part of the reason my liver doesnt work as i used to take so many for crohns pain...henceforth the medical mj kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello...i have read ...i think it was on the american crohns and colitis foundation website... that tylenol is the number one drug induced cause of liver disease...perhaps this is part of the reason my liver doesnt work as i used to take so many for crohns pain...henceforth the medical mj kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 hello...i have read ...i think it was on the american crohns and colitis foundation website... that tylenol is the number one drug induced cause of liver disease...perhaps this is part of the reason my liver doesnt work as i used to take so many for crohns pain...henceforth the medical mj kat "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 > .....i have completely rejected docs and modern med and treat myself as much as possible with herbs and diet...> You don't take any meds at all for IBD or PSC? Have you ever? How long ago were you diagnosed? Are you tested at all for liver functions? If so, have the results improved or worsened? What type of herbs do you take? Sorry for all the questions....just curious. Kim mother of Amber (17) UC/05 ~ PSC/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Yahoo! My Yahoo! Mail Welcome, chickwithmakeup [sign Out, My Account] Mail Home - Help Mail | Addresses | Calendar | Notepad What's New - Options Check MailCompose Search MailSearch the Web From kat murphy Fri Jan 6 16:36:46 2006 Received: from [67.189.188.188] by web53203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:36:46 EST Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:36:46 -0500 (EST) Add to Address Book Subject: Re: preventive gallbladder removal? To: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1176210649-1136583406=:33292" Content-Transfer-Encoding: hello....just wanted to add my two cents worth....two years ago i had the same test done and the same results...no stones...sludge and very diseased...scarred and inflammed....i was jaundiced(?) and liver affected and liver enyzmes in blood stream....they scheduled me for emergency surgery...i have crohns...i said no thanks dont want surgery and told them i was going home to research herbal remedies...bought a pound of each of the following...catnip pepperment milk thistle blessed thistle bayberry beetroot wild yam camomile slippery elm marshmellow lechiten dandelion fennel siberian ginseng licorice ginger ceyenne spirulina kelp and primal defense....i take my herbs with a digestive enzyme which makes sure i get the benefit of the herb and juiced my brains out...celery beet carrot lemon and anything green...and tried to walk three days a day.....it didnt clear up over nite but today i eat pretty much what ever i want and rarely take my herbs.....when i feel the pain in the shoulder i remember to get back to my regime....email me if u want any clarification on any of this...so i still have my gallbladder and all my guts after 25 years of crohns and associated ills...have a great day! kat hey....this is a similar email i posted on the newsgroup earlier..i think it covers the same stuff....if u require more info email again or i will give u my phone #....hard to write out all this info....kat www.katmurphyart.com "i never know what will happen in the painting process... for me painting is the poetry of the eyes heart and soul... the work speaks to the heart and by its own accord..." kat __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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