Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me pretty busy! I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's doctor (after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding using fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his best casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass casting). Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart to have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just be a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think he cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running joke at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only babies from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say whether or not these babies don't cry. The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non-stop. I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so much during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use a plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the heel. We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hi, My son usually fell asleep in the middle of the manipulation and casting, so I guess it really doesn't hurt. He cried during the tenotomy though, even before it started, so I guess it was just that the doctor held his foot quite firmly which he disliked. But he was fine afterwards even without any medication. Cheers, > Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me pretty > busy! > > I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's doctor > (after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding using > fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his best > casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass casting). > > Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart to > have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just be > a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think he > cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running joke > at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only babies > from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > whether or not these babies don't cry. > > The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- stop. > I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so much > during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use a > plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > heel. > > We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hi, My son usually fell asleep in the middle of the manipulation and casting, so I guess it really doesn't hurt. He cried during the tenotomy though, even before it started, so I guess it was just that the doctor held his foot quite firmly which he disliked. But he was fine afterwards even without any medication. Cheers, > Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me pretty > busy! > > I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's doctor > (after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding using > fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his best > casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass casting). > > Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart to > have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just be > a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think he > cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running joke > at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only babies > from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > whether or not these babies don't cry. > > The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- stop. > I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so much > during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use a > plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > heel. > > We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Thanks for your reply ! My concern is the impending change of the nighttime nursing routine. Since we co-sleep (it's easier on Mom!), when he wakes to nurse, I don't really have to 'wake up' all the way, I just pull the receiving blanket that he's laying on really close to me, turn him on his side facing me and as soon as he's latched, I go back to sleep. With the DBB, we most likely won't be able to continue that way! Sitting up and cradling him for nursing will really wake me up!! That's what I'm dreading the most at this point. Daiga > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up on a bed > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it wasn't > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > >Subject: A hello and an update! > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me pretty > >busy! > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's doctor > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding using > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his best > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass casting). > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart to > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just be > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think he > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running joke > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only babies > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- stop. > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so much > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use a > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > >heel. > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Thanks for your reply ! My concern is the impending change of the nighttime nursing routine. Since we co-sleep (it's easier on Mom!), when he wakes to nurse, I don't really have to 'wake up' all the way, I just pull the receiving blanket that he's laying on really close to me, turn him on his side facing me and as soon as he's latched, I go back to sleep. With the DBB, we most likely won't be able to continue that way! Sitting up and cradling him for nursing will really wake me up!! That's what I'm dreading the most at this point. Daiga > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up on a bed > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it wasn't > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > >Subject: A hello and an update! > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me pretty > >busy! > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's doctor > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding using > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his best > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass casting). > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart to > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just be > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think he > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running joke > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only babies > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- stop. > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so much > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use a > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > >heel. > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Dear Diaga, I just came across your note, and thought I would share my experience. I don't co-sleep, but often fall asleep nursing Desmond in the middle of the night (he's usually only up once a night, now that he's 17months). He's been in the FAB for about a year now. Admittedly it did take getting used to, but after some adjustment, we worked it out. It certainly is not the same as what I have been used to, having nursed my other two children, but we are able to lie down and nurse. I turn him on his side, cuddle him close, and bring his top foot across my hip. That way his bottom leg is lying flat on the bed, and he's comfortable with his top leg resting on me. Hope this is helpful. I know how complicated the most routine situations can become. Good luck to you! > > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up > on a bed > > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it > wasn't > > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >Subject: A hello and an update! > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me > pretty > > >busy! > > > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's > doctor > > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding > using > > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his > best > > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass > casting). > > > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart > to > > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just > be > > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think > he > > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running > joke > > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only > babies > > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- > stop. > > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so > much > > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use > a > > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > > >heel. > > > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Daiga- Personally I don't think you will want to co-sleep with him in the DBB. Those DBB's can be dangerous;) I've been kicked many times with the DBB just from changing diapers and it has left some bruises and welts. I did co-sleep with my first son and he ended up being and still is at 3 a horrible sleeper. He still sleeps in our bed and we can get him out;( I never co-slept with (cf child) because of casting, DBB and my older child still sleeps with us. is a much better sleeper than my older child is or ever was and has to wear the DBB at night. I don't know if co-sleeping made my first a horrible sleeper or if that is just the kind of kid he is but I swore I wouldn't co-sleep with the second and he is a much better sleeper. Good luck with whatever you choose. > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot >To: nosurgery4clubfoot >Subject: Re: A hello and an update! >Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:39:13 -0000 > >Thanks for your reply ! > >My concern is the impending change of the nighttime nursing routine. >Since we co-sleep (it's easier on Mom!), when he wakes to nurse, I >don't really have to 'wake up' all the way, I just pull the receiving >blanket that he's laying on really close to me, turn him on his side >facing me and as soon as he's latched, I go back to sleep. With the >DBB, we most likely won't be able to continue that way! Sitting up >and cradling him for nursing will really wake me up!! That's what >I'm dreading the most at this point. > >Daiga > > > > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up >on a bed > > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it >wasn't > > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >Subject: A hello and an update! > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me >pretty > > >busy! > > > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's >doctor > > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding >using > > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his >best > > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass >casting). > > > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart >to > > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just >be > > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think >he > > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running >joke > > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only >babies > > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- >stop. > > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so >much > > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use >a > > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > > >heel. > > > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > _________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Daiga- Personally I don't think you will want to co-sleep with him in the DBB. Those DBB's can be dangerous;) I've been kicked many times with the DBB just from changing diapers and it has left some bruises and welts. I did co-sleep with my first son and he ended up being and still is at 3 a horrible sleeper. He still sleeps in our bed and we can get him out;( I never co-slept with (cf child) because of casting, DBB and my older child still sleeps with us. is a much better sleeper than my older child is or ever was and has to wear the DBB at night. I don't know if co-sleeping made my first a horrible sleeper or if that is just the kind of kid he is but I swore I wouldn't co-sleep with the second and he is a much better sleeper. Good luck with whatever you choose. > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot >To: nosurgery4clubfoot >Subject: Re: A hello and an update! >Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:39:13 -0000 > >Thanks for your reply ! > >My concern is the impending change of the nighttime nursing routine. >Since we co-sleep (it's easier on Mom!), when he wakes to nurse, I >don't really have to 'wake up' all the way, I just pull the receiving >blanket that he's laying on really close to me, turn him on his side >facing me and as soon as he's latched, I go back to sleep. With the >DBB, we most likely won't be able to continue that way! Sitting up >and cradling him for nursing will really wake me up!! That's what >I'm dreading the most at this point. > >Daiga > > > > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up >on a bed > > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it >wasn't > > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >Subject: A hello and an update! > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me >pretty > > >busy! > > > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's >doctor > > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding >using > > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his >best > > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass >casting). > > > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart >to > > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just >be > > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think >he > > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running >joke > > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only >babies > > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- >stop. > > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so >much > > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use >a > > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > > >heel. > > > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > _________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Daiga- Personally I don't think you will want to co-sleep with him in the DBB. Those DBB's can be dangerous;) I've been kicked many times with the DBB just from changing diapers and it has left some bruises and welts. I did co-sleep with my first son and he ended up being and still is at 3 a horrible sleeper. He still sleeps in our bed and we can get him out;( I never co-slept with (cf child) because of casting, DBB and my older child still sleeps with us. is a much better sleeper than my older child is or ever was and has to wear the DBB at night. I don't know if co-sleeping made my first a horrible sleeper or if that is just the kind of kid he is but I swore I wouldn't co-sleep with the second and he is a much better sleeper. Good luck with whatever you choose. > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot >To: nosurgery4clubfoot >Subject: Re: A hello and an update! >Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:39:13 -0000 > >Thanks for your reply ! > >My concern is the impending change of the nighttime nursing routine. >Since we co-sleep (it's easier on Mom!), when he wakes to nurse, I >don't really have to 'wake up' all the way, I just pull the receiving >blanket that he's laying on really close to me, turn him on his side >facing me and as soon as he's latched, I go back to sleep. With the >DBB, we most likely won't be able to continue that way! Sitting up >and cradling him for nursing will really wake me up!! That's what >I'm dreading the most at this point. > >Daiga > > > > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up >on a bed > > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it >wasn't > > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > >Subject: A hello and an update! > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me >pretty > > >busy! > > > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's >doctor > > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding >using > > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his >best > > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass >casting). > > > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart >to > > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just >be > > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think >he > > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running >joke > > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only >babies > > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- >stop. > > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so >much > > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use >a > > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > > >heel. > > > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > _________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 , I know what a pain it is not to be able to get them out of the bed!! We've had some experience with that since Owen is our fourth (and final) child! LOL! We'll probably only be co-sleeping until he's about 3 months old ....when he begins to sleep longer periods at night. Actually, at 6 weeks, he's already beginning to sleep for 5-7 hour stretches through the night. Once this sleep pattern becomes more regular we can then go about establishing a bedtime routine with him (i.e., bath, pajamas, nursing and cuddling and then bed). So far he's been a really good/easy-going baby so I'm hoping that the transition goes well. > > > I'm a nursing mom and I found it easier to nurse my son sitting up > >on a bed > > > versus a rocking chair like I had my first son. Other than that it > >wasn't > > > that different. Oh yeah except for the way it looks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " momtoowen " <daiga.grady@n...> > > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > > >To: nosurgery4clubfoot > > > >Subject: A hello and an update! > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0000 > > > > > > > >Hi everyone, I haven't been around in a while - 4 kids keep me > >pretty > > > >busy! > > > > > > > >I am pleased to announce that after my discussion with Owen's > >doctor > > > >(after his 4th casting - all of which were below knee), he is now > > > >using the full Ponseti method at my request....at least for Owen. > > > >Owen's 5th and 6th casts were both full leg casts. The only > > > >deviation in the method that I have noted is that Dr. Cook uses > > > >fiberglass casts rather than plaster. I discussed this point with > > > >him and he feels that he can do a much a better casting/molding > >using > > > >fiberglass as he's more experienced with that type. He was willing > > > >to use the plaster casting if I wanted him to but I thought that it > > > >would be more of a benefit to Owen to have his doctor using his > >best > > > >casting skills (and that just happens to be with fiberglass > >casting). > > > > > > > >Owen is now 6 weeks old (how time flies!) and after the removal of > > > >his 6th cast, his doctor decided Wednesday that his foot was ready > > > >for the tenotomy so we went ahead with it. It just broke my heart > >to > > > >have him cry...and he DID cry!!! In fact, he cried the moment they > > > >touched his foot so, at this point, I'm thinking that it may just > >be > > > >a learned response from the prior manipulations/castings. I think > >he > > > >cries mostly at the cold hands of the technician!! The running > >joke > > > >at this clinic among the doctors and technicians is that only > >babies > > > >from Iowa don't cry during the manipulations/castings. I had a > > > >chance to discuss this with both Dr. Cook and one of the other > > > >doctor's in the clinic (Dr. Hyndman) and both noted that when they > > > >saw Ponseti demonstrating his technique (not sure if they were > > > >together or if it was two different occasions) that the baby in the > > > >demonstration cried also. They also noted that in Ponseti's video > > > >demonstration (which I've never seen), there is no 'sound' and that > > > >only the subject's lower body is in view so it's difficult to say > > > >whether or not these babies don't cry. > > > > > > > >The remainder of the day after the tenotomy was a bit rough for > > > >Owen. He was very fussy and needed to be held practically non- > >stop. > > > >I think part of the problem was that he got himself worked up so > >much > > > >during the procedure (he cried so hard and his face turned so red > > > >that I was sure he was going to pass out) that he took in a lot of > > > >air with all of the crying and as a result was extremely gassy and > > > >uncomfortable for the rest of the day and throughout the night. Of > > > >course, his heel was/is probably quite sore as well. They did use > >a > > > >plaster cast after his tenotomy and he has the blood stain on the > > > >heel. > > > > > > > >We haven't been booked for our next appointment yet but the doctor > > > >wants this cast on for 3-4 weeks. After that, we move on to the > > > >boots! For those of you who nursed your babies, did you find that > > > >the DBB was a problem at all during nursings? > > > > > > > >Anyway, I need to run! Thanks for reading! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Daiga, We co-bedded until 15 months and never had trouble with the DBB. Just make sure you have rolled receiving blankets ready to put behind your babies back and I used an airplane-sized pillow to put between the DBB for leg support. It might take a few nights and the help of your husband for it to feel right but we are so thankful we didn't give up. Also, I always put a pillow behind my lower back and between my legs. This seemed to keep me comfortable enough that I rarely had trouble falling back to sleep. The only trouble we had with co-bedding and the DBB was the marks it made on the wall as got older and would hit the wall with her bar. It's worth the repainting later, though! After a few months your baby will have enough strength to prop the bar up next to your legs and all you'll need to do is make yourself comfortable. It gets so much easier as they get a little stronger! Best wishes, Amy (feel free to email me later if you have problems, I'm I real believer in nursing and co-bedding). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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