Re: I am back from Dr. Barringer (Ortho) for the review of our Starband fit

February 13, 2005

Dara,

I think it is refreshing to hear how an ortho spoke with such candor

about his treatment protocol; I'm impressed to hear that Dr.

Barringer took the time to have that in-depth discussion with you,

covering his treatment philosophy in such detail.

It's also important that you feel a " match " with your chosen

treatment protocol, so I understand your checking out some other

options under the circumstances. Please keep us updated on Jack's

upcoming appt. at CT - Hopefully Jack will get quick correction with

his DOCband, and you won't have to make that long commute for very

long!

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a

little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even

though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When

he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and

the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet

and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the

inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a

more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see

the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a

new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain

it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005

Dara,

I think it is refreshing to hear how an ortho spoke with such candor

about his treatment protocol; I'm impressed to hear that Dr.

Barringer took the time to have that in-depth discussion with you,

covering his treatment philosophy in such detail.

It's also important that you feel a " match " with your chosen

treatment protocol, so I understand your checking out some other

options under the circumstances. Please keep us updated on Jack's

upcoming appt. at CT - Hopefully Jack will get quick correction with

his DOCband, and you won't have to make that long commute for very

long!

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a

little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even

though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When

he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and

the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet

and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the

inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a

more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see

the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a

new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain

it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005

Hello Dara

First off I'm glad to hear that Dr. Barringer was understanding and

willing to make a new band. That does show his consern in patient

care. I think that you not likeing his treatment style is just

that. You guys don't click. I don't think it's a bad thing. I

think you tried, and this " color " just isn't for you. I do believe

that if you are honest with him, that he would certainly

understand. Good luck

Sandy Willow's Mom

Cranio Germany Grad

Tort resolved

http://www.geocities.com/samipa74/Willow_Lanette.html

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a

little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even

though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When

he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and

the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet

and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the

inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a

more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see

the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a

new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain

it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005

Hello Dara

First off I'm glad to hear that Dr. Barringer was understanding and

willing to make a new band. That does show his consern in patient

care. I think that you not likeing his treatment style is just

that. You guys don't click. I don't think it's a bad thing. I

think you tried, and this " color " just isn't for you. I do believe

that if you are honest with him, that he would certainly

understand. Good luck

Sandy Willow's Mom

Cranio Germany Grad

Tort resolved

http://www.geocities.com/samipa74/Willow_Lanette.html

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a

little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even

though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When

he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and

the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet

and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the

inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a

more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see

the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a

new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain

it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005

Dara,

I am so glad you were able to straighten this out. I have been

worried about you and Jack. I think you have certainly made an

informed decision. You have given the Dr. a chance to meet your

expectations and he hasn't, so it's time to move on. Dr. Barringer

should understand that not all people and babies fit with all

doctors. Just explain that you would like a more aggressive approach

and have decided that Cranial Tech. can provide that. He should

understand. I am so happy that your insurance is on your side. Keep

us posted.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005

Wow! 6 months to a year for a 5 month old? Passive treatment,

indeed. Going with your gut is probably the right thing to do. I'm

glad that he took the time to discuss things with you though. Good

luck and I'm glad that your insurance is coming through!

Natasha

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a

little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even

though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When

he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and

the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet

and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the

inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a

more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see

the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a

new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain

it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005

Dara, I have been thinking about you guys a lot.

6-12 months for a 5 mo old is crazy. I've never heard of that length

of treatment, even with STARband patients. How odd.

Anyway, if it helps, Blythe got her 2nd DOC around 6 mo and was out

of it in 10 weeks. By that time, she had some remaining scaphocephaly

and mild plagio from in utero constraint so they are probably

comparable cases.

The drive is a beast. If you make packages of flights, Southwest will

cut a decent deal.

I always drove down and spent the night... If you make hotel

reservations on Priceline, say you want a 4-star hotel in North

Dallas/Galleria. They will ALWAYS put you in one of 2 very nice

Hiltons about 1 mile from CT. One is across from the Galleria and has

suites, which is nice with kids. I stayed in those hotels weekly for

6 months!! Generally, our appointments were Friday afternoon or

Monday morning so I'd stay either Friday or Monday night b/c the

weekend rates are lower-- On Priceline, I always paid $55 for a 4

star in the Galleria area. The only time I had to bump up my price

was during Christmas.

Hope this helps. I think you are doing the right thing-- 2-3 months

to Dallas is better than a year of OKC. Plus, I bet they will

schedule you every other week instaed of weekly, as we had to do.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dixondara " <dixondara@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Well Dr. Barringer is about the nicest person you could ever hope

to

> work with... that is the good part.

> He has a long history with cranial molding and maybe it is a little

> too long! He use to use the passive bands way back and even though

> he uses the Starband now, he still has a passive approach. When he

> takes material out of the band for the adjustment he take a broad

> sweeping amount out to keep the band basically roung inside and the

> band can then rotate on the head until it finds a new holding

spot.

> I would say his way is somewhere between the old passive helmet and

> the agressive way CT does it; and makes the process much longer.

But

> he is getting results in the end for the kids he treats.

> We visited about it a long time; though he did not make any

> adjustment to the way the band fit. Rather, he preferred to let

Jack

> grow into it some more and talked a lot about how he just couldn't

> really tell where the band it touching the head and that in time

> signs in the skin would tell him along with yellowing of the inside

> of the band. I hated hearing this. He said that he would order a

new

> band if I wanted him to. Jack is still 5 months and he has mild

> plagio and tort; yet Barringer thought it may take 6 months to a

year

> to see him round out to what I am expecting.

>

> So after digesting all that overnight, I have decided I need a more

> agressive approach to getting the head corrected. CT in Dallas

told

> me that the prescription is transferrable without having to see the

> doctor again and my insurance agreed. in Dallas is working

out

> the kinks in the insurance transfer. My insurance told me that

they

> would pay 75% toward the Docband. So, we will be heading for a new

> casting soon, I hope (still have to get an appt from ).

>

> Needless to say I am very disappointed in our false start.

>

> Not looking forward to that 5 hour oneway drive - but would hate

more

> to drive the 2.5 hour oneway drive for six months or more to fix

mild

> plagio! Also, I really hate that Dr. Barringer did not fit with

us,

> he is an extremely pleasant fellow. I don't know how to explain it

> to him that we are changing orthos " He's Fired " - seems to be

the

> theme this week huh!

>

> Dara and Jack Dixon

> 5.75 months

> Starband fitted on 2/3/05

> Tort

February 13, 2005