Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hi - what values per 100gms have you got for the almonds? Do you grind them yourself? I've ended up with completely different numbers to you when I was having a play round on the mealplanner just now, so trying to work backwards and see where I've gone wrong.... She gets 8.82 gms protein per meal? How many prt gms per kg per day does that work out to? PS - Culinary challenged here - be gentle with me ----- Original Message ----- > I posted a photo of Francesca's birthday cake recently (May 20th I > think it was), here's the recipe. > > 4:1 ratio, 8.82g protein, 42.56g fat, 1.84g carb, 425 calories > > 33g butter > 29g egg > 21g ground almonds > 3g cocoa > liquid sweetener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hi - what values per 100gms have you got for the almonds? Do you grind them yourself? I've ended up with completely different numbers to you when I was having a play round on the mealplanner just now, so trying to work backwards and see where I've gone wrong.... She gets 8.82 gms protein per meal? How many prt gms per kg per day does that work out to? PS - Culinary challenged here - be gentle with me ----- Original Message ----- > I posted a photo of Francesca's birthday cake recently (May 20th I > think it was), here's the recipe. > > 4:1 ratio, 8.82g protein, 42.56g fat, 1.84g carb, 425 calories > > 33g butter > 29g egg > 21g ground almonds > 3g cocoa > liquid sweetener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hello, I buy the almonds ready ground, and values are: 21.1g protein, 55.8g fat, and 6.9g carb per 100g. I have also bought whole nuts and ground them myself, almonds being 24.9g protein, 51.0g fat and 7.3g carb. These are UK values. The cocoa I use is 20.0g protein, 21.0g fat and 13.0g carb per 100g. Are your values higher for the carb? I recently had a conversation with the Technical Manager of Crazy Jacks organic brazil nuts, because their values changed dramatically when they changed their packaging and after a long conversation, it turned out that there are 2 ways of measuring carb - carb by difference, ie where they analyse protein, fat, water, anything else and then what's left is carb or alternatively 'available' carbohydrate, which I gather is more accurate. There is also a big question mark over the fibre being included or not. I must confess to feeling mighty confused over it all at the moment, and I'm wondering whether it's the same sort of difference between net carbs and regular carbs as shown on the Atkins products. At the moment, I'm working to whatever is shown on the label, but I'm not sure whether in the UK, other companies are going to change the way they show the values too. I may end up deciding to just go with the published average values given by McCance & Widdowson's (the UK dietician's 'bible' of values). Francesca is on 30g protein per day, she weighs 28kg and our dietician felt that she needed a little more than the 1g per kilo of body weight. Hence, relatively low carb allowance. She has 3 meals and 3 snacks. > Hi - what values per 100gms have you got for the almonds? Do you > grind them yourself? I've ended up with completely different numbers to you > when I was having a play round on the mealplanner just now, so trying to > work backwards and see where I've gone wrong.... > She gets 8.82 gms protein per meal? How many prt gms per kg per day does > that work out to? > > > PS - Culinary challenged here - be gentle with me > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " wendymmw " <wendymw@h...> > > > > I posted a photo of Francesca's birthday cake recently (May 20th I > > think it was), here's the recipe. > > > > 4:1 ratio, 8.82g protein, 42.56g fat, 1.84g carb, 425 calories > > > > 33g butter > > 29g egg > > 21g ground almonds > > 3g cocoa > > liquid sweetener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 The carb was a bit different, but mainly because of the cocoa values it seems. And only has about 7 gms prt per 400 cal meal, so that's where that difference came in. I work to what is on the label too, never gone down the track of adding or subtracting fibre, net this or that, it's already complicated enough without going there as far as I'm concerned I'll let you know how I get on if I make the cake, will have to find some ground almonds first, and go from there. Thanks, ----- Original Message ----- > Hello, I buy the almonds ready ground, and values are: 21.1g protein, > 55.8g fat, and 6.9g carb per 100g. I have also bought whole nuts and > ground them myself, almonds being 24.9g protein, 51.0g fat and 7.3g > carb. These are UK values. > > The cocoa I use is 20.0g protein, 21.0g fat and 13.0g carb per 100g. > > Are your values higher for the carb? I recently had a conversation > with the Technical Manager of Crazy Jacks organic brazil nuts, > because their values changed dramatically when they changed their > packaging and after a long conversation, it turned out that there are > 2 ways of measuring carb - carb by difference, ie where they analyse > protein, fat, water, anything else and then what's left is carb or > alternatively 'available' carbohydrate, which I gather is more > accurate. There is also a big question mark over the fibre being > included or not. I must confess to feeling mighty confused over it > all at the moment, and I'm wondering whether it's the same sort of > difference between net carbs and regular carbs as shown on the Atkins > products. > > At the moment, I'm working to whatever is shown on the label, but I'm > not sure whether in the UK, other companies are going to change the > way they show the values too. I may end up deciding to just go with > the published average values given by McCance & Widdowson's (the UK > dietician's 'bible' of values). > > Francesca is on 30g protein per day, she weighs 28kg and our > dietician felt that she needed a little more than the 1g per kilo of > body weight. Hence, relatively low carb allowance. She has 3 meals > and 3 snacks. > > > > > > > > > Hi - what values per 100gms have you got for the almonds? > Do you > > grind them yourself? I've ended up with completely different > numbers to you > > when I was having a play round on the mealplanner just now, so > trying to > > work backwards and see where I've gone wrong.... > > She gets 8.82 gms protein per meal? How many prt gms per kg per > day does > > that work out to? > > > > > > PS - Culinary challenged here - be gentle with me > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: " wendymmw " <wendymw@h...> > > > > > > > I posted a photo of Francesca's birthday cake recently (May > 20th I > > > think it was), here's the recipe. > > > > > > 4:1 ratio, 8.82g protein, 42.56g fat, 1.84g carb, 425 calories > > > > > > 33g butter > > > 29g egg > > > 21g ground almonds > > > 3g cocoa > > > liquid sweetener > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 The carb was a bit different, but mainly because of the cocoa values it seems. And only has about 7 gms prt per 400 cal meal, so that's where that difference came in. I work to what is on the label too, never gone down the track of adding or subtracting fibre, net this or that, it's already complicated enough without going there as far as I'm concerned I'll let you know how I get on if I make the cake, will have to find some ground almonds first, and go from there. Thanks, ----- Original Message ----- > Hello, I buy the almonds ready ground, and values are: 21.1g protein, > 55.8g fat, and 6.9g carb per 100g. I have also bought whole nuts and > ground them myself, almonds being 24.9g protein, 51.0g fat and 7.3g > carb. These are UK values. > > The cocoa I use is 20.0g protein, 21.0g fat and 13.0g carb per 100g. > > Are your values higher for the carb? I recently had a conversation > with the Technical Manager of Crazy Jacks organic brazil nuts, > because their values changed dramatically when they changed their > packaging and after a long conversation, it turned out that there are > 2 ways of measuring carb - carb by difference, ie where they analyse > protein, fat, water, anything else and then what's left is carb or > alternatively 'available' carbohydrate, which I gather is more > accurate. There is also a big question mark over the fibre being > included or not. I must confess to feeling mighty confused over it > all at the moment, and I'm wondering whether it's the same sort of > difference between net carbs and regular carbs as shown on the Atkins > products. > > At the moment, I'm working to whatever is shown on the label, but I'm > not sure whether in the UK, other companies are going to change the > way they show the values too. I may end up deciding to just go with > the published average values given by McCance & Widdowson's (the UK > dietician's 'bible' of values). > > Francesca is on 30g protein per day, she weighs 28kg and our > dietician felt that she needed a little more than the 1g per kilo of > body weight. Hence, relatively low carb allowance. She has 3 meals > and 3 snacks. > > > > > > > > > Hi - what values per 100gms have you got for the almonds? > Do you > > grind them yourself? I've ended up with completely different > numbers to you > > when I was having a play round on the mealplanner just now, so > trying to > > work backwards and see where I've gone wrong.... > > She gets 8.82 gms protein per meal? How many prt gms per kg per > day does > > that work out to? > > > > > > PS - Culinary challenged here - be gentle with me > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: " wendymmw " <wendymw@h...> > > > > > > > I posted a photo of Francesca's birthday cake recently (May > 20th I > > > think it was), here's the recipe. > > > > > > 4:1 ratio, 8.82g protein, 42.56g fat, 1.84g carb, 425 calories > > > > > > 33g butter > > > 29g egg > > > 21g ground almonds > > > 3g cocoa > > > liquid sweetener > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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