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In a message dated 6/15/2004 5:36:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

hppy1kat@... writes:

> I was curious to know if anyone has experienced

> palpatations when breathing deep or while singing. I

> seem to know small palps especially when I am trying

> to sing. Is there any correlation between how we

> breathe good or bad and having AF.

>

>

Kathy,

There is a connection between breathing and afib, I think. First, rapid,

shallow breaths (clavicular breathing) like those that occur during

hyperventilation or panic attacks, can trigger ectopics which in turn can

trigger afib.

Also, if one is truly breathing deeply and correctly for singing, that is doing

diaphragmatic and/or abdominal breathing, any existing stomach gas can be

" stirred up, " and the resulting effect on the heart can cause ectopics or afib.

I

have experienced both of these scenarios but fortunately not often. Finally,

a positive effect on afib can sometimes be achieved by " bearing down " with

the diaphragm muscle or consciously forcing the diaphragm muscle to descend as

it should when taking a full diaphragmatic breath for singing or public

speaking. This latter technique is related to what is called a Valsalva

maneuver

which can sometimes stop afib in some people. It has worked for me in the past

but not always reliably.

I find that in general that deep breathing for singing does not cause

problems if my stomach is in order. If I am having any stomach problems, the

deep

breathing can put me in ectopics and has even caused dizziness and the feeling

of imminent fainting on occasion. Fortunately this hasn't happened often but

it has really interfered with some performances when it has happened to me.

Before I quit dairy, this problem was happening to me quite frequently, but it

has virtually disappeared during the past two years. I thought I would have to

give up singing for a while, but things are better now.

in sinus in Seattle

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> I was curious to know if anyone has experienced

> palpatations when breathing deep or while singing. I

> seem to know small palps especially when I am trying

> to sing. Is there any correlation between how we

> breathe good or bad and having AF.

Kat,

This happens to me. I would be interested to know what's involved in

this, if anyone has any idea. I also find that if I am in a fragile

state, talking will cause ectopics. One way to lessen them, for me

anyway, is to make sure I keep my mouth closed, that is, no mouth

breathing.

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> I was curious to know if anyone has experienced

> palpatations when breathing deep or while singing. I

> seem to know small palps especially when I am trying

> to sing. Is there any correlation between how we

> breathe good or bad and having AF.

Kat,

This happens to me. I would be interested to know what's involved in

this, if anyone has any idea. I also find that if I am in a fragile

state, talking will cause ectopics. One way to lessen them, for me

anyway, is to make sure I keep my mouth closed, that is, no mouth

breathing.

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> I was curious to know if anyone has experienced

> palpatations when breathing deep or while singing. I

> seem to know small palps especially when I am trying

> to sing. Is there any correlation between how we

> breathe good or bad and having AF.

Kat,

This happens to me. I would be interested to know what's involved in

this, if anyone has any idea. I also find that if I am in a fragile

state, talking will cause ectopics. One way to lessen them, for me

anyway, is to make sure I keep my mouth closed, that is, no mouth

breathing.

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