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We have just completed our fourth week on the diet. They just

changed his ratio from 3:1 to 3.2:1 as we have noticed dips in his

ketones and only temporary seizure control. He gets down to moderate

somewhere near the middle of the day and some times it drops to low

ketones before going back up in the evening. Has anyone else seen

this to happen and what did you do other than raise ratio if

anything. What would adding a meal do. Our dietician suggested this

as the next step, but I don't fully understand why. We need to come

down on his topamax since it is so high and we are seeing some speech

delays that may be related, but we are a little frightened to come

down on it since topamax was the drug to get his gran mals under

control. He only has them when his fever spikes or is sick now.

Before he would have them all the time. We were hoping to get a

little more consistent control before dropping the topamax.

I am so afraid this will never work. We have been talking to his

doctors about severe myoclonic epilepsy in infants. My husband and I

thought that his neurologist had clinically dismissed this as 's

condition since he looked so good, but now we are seeing delays (that

might just be meds but we don't know) and now the neurologists are

saying that they can't rule it out until is older. He is 17

months old now and they said that age 2 1/2 would give them a better

picture. It has been a bad week. I really hate this diet. We went

out to eat after church today. I had packed 's lunch and

everything. He ate it great, but cried as we ate and reached for our

food. He always loved to eat. We rushed to finish and leave because

it was tearing our hearts out and everyone was looking at our table,

I am sure they were wondering what was going on. Please someone tell

me this gets better.

Tina

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Tina,

I admire you for braving a restaurant so early in the diet. We've

been on it over two months, and I'm still to chicken to try. Maybe

your first visit will be the worst one. Keep trying; because I

think those family traditions are so important to keep. It sends

the message to you all that life can still be lived on this diet. I

say this having completely failed in this area so far. Our first

regular meals at home were heart wrenching, when Ethan was still

hungry and we all still had full plates. The thing that helped make

it easier was when we went from a 4:1 ratio to 4.5:1 ratio, the

larger ketones made Ethan loose his voracious appetite. Of course,

I would never go to a higher ratio for that reason, it was just a

side-effect of the higher ratio that helped a bit. So, for you

having to go up from 3:1 might not be all bad. It did take Ethan a

week to adjust to the higher ketones, kindof like when he started

the diet.

You also mentioned topomax. My son was about 8 years old when he

tried topomax. We quit after twpo weeks, because word retrieval

became so diffficult for him that he even forgot his own brother's

name, once. HOwever, if the topomax is helping control seizures,

you might want to stick with it forawhile. I don't think it is

doing any long term damage to his language abilities. Kids that age

have so much to take in and are so good at taking information in

that they still aquire language even without showing it--you know,

the kids who never say anything until they are 4 or 5 and then

suddently have fluent speech.

Good luck as you continue the diet. Keep those family outings

going and maybe someday I will have the courage to follow your

example.

Gretchen

> We have just completed our fourth week on the diet. They just

> changed his ratio from 3:1 to 3.2:1 as we have noticed dips in his

> ketones and only temporary seizure control. He gets down to

moderate

> somewhere near the middle of the day and some times it drops to

low

> ketones before going back up in the evening. Has anyone else seen

> this to happen and what did you do other than raise ratio if

> anything. What would adding a meal do. Our dietician suggested

this

> as the next step, but I don't fully understand why. We need to

come

> down on his topamax since it is so high and we are seeing some

speech

> delays that may be related, but we are a little frightened to come

> down on it since topamax was the drug to get his gran mals under

> control. He only has them when his fever spikes or is sick now.

> Before he would have them all the time. We were hoping to get a

> little more consistent control before dropping the topamax.

>

> I am so afraid this will never work. We have been talking to his

> doctors about severe myoclonic epilepsy in infants. My husband

and I

> thought that his neurologist had clinically dismissed this as

's

> condition since he looked so good, but now we are seeing delays

(that

> might just be meds but we don't know) and now the neurologists are

> saying that they can't rule it out until is older. He is 17

> months old now and they said that age 2 1/2 would give them a

better

> picture. It has been a bad week. I really hate this diet. We

went

> out to eat after church today. I had packed 's lunch and

> everything. He ate it great, but cried as we ate and reached for

our

> food. He always loved to eat. We rushed to finish and leave

because

> it was tearing our hearts out and everyone was looking at our

table,

> I am sure they were wondering what was going on. Please someone

tell

> me this gets better.

> Tina

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Tina,

I admire you for braving a restaurant so early in the diet. We've

been on it over two months, and I'm still to chicken to try. Maybe

your first visit will be the worst one. Keep trying; because I

think those family traditions are so important to keep. It sends

the message to you all that life can still be lived on this diet. I

say this having completely failed in this area so far. Our first

regular meals at home were heart wrenching, when Ethan was still

hungry and we all still had full plates. The thing that helped make

it easier was when we went from a 4:1 ratio to 4.5:1 ratio, the

larger ketones made Ethan loose his voracious appetite. Of course,

I would never go to a higher ratio for that reason, it was just a

side-effect of the higher ratio that helped a bit. So, for you

having to go up from 3:1 might not be all bad. It did take Ethan a

week to adjust to the higher ketones, kindof like when he started

the diet.

You also mentioned topomax. My son was about 8 years old when he

tried topomax. We quit after twpo weeks, because word retrieval

became so diffficult for him that he even forgot his own brother's

name, once. HOwever, if the topomax is helping control seizures,

you might want to stick with it forawhile. I don't think it is

doing any long term damage to his language abilities. Kids that age

have so much to take in and are so good at taking information in

that they still aquire language even without showing it--you know,

the kids who never say anything until they are 4 or 5 and then

suddently have fluent speech.

Good luck as you continue the diet. Keep those family outings

going and maybe someday I will have the courage to follow your

example.

Gretchen

> We have just completed our fourth week on the diet. They just

> changed his ratio from 3:1 to 3.2:1 as we have noticed dips in his

> ketones and only temporary seizure control. He gets down to

moderate

> somewhere near the middle of the day and some times it drops to

low

> ketones before going back up in the evening. Has anyone else seen

> this to happen and what did you do other than raise ratio if

> anything. What would adding a meal do. Our dietician suggested

this

> as the next step, but I don't fully understand why. We need to

come

> down on his topamax since it is so high and we are seeing some

speech

> delays that may be related, but we are a little frightened to come

> down on it since topamax was the drug to get his gran mals under

> control. He only has them when his fever spikes or is sick now.

> Before he would have them all the time. We were hoping to get a

> little more consistent control before dropping the topamax.

>

> I am so afraid this will never work. We have been talking to his

> doctors about severe myoclonic epilepsy in infants. My husband

and I

> thought that his neurologist had clinically dismissed this as

's

> condition since he looked so good, but now we are seeing delays

(that

> might just be meds but we don't know) and now the neurologists are

> saying that they can't rule it out until is older. He is 17

> months old now and they said that age 2 1/2 would give them a

better

> picture. It has been a bad week. I really hate this diet. We

went

> out to eat after church today. I had packed 's lunch and

> everything. He ate it great, but cried as we ate and reached for

our

> food. He always loved to eat. We rushed to finish and leave

because

> it was tearing our hearts out and everyone was looking at our

table,

> I am sure they were wondering what was going on. Please someone

tell

> me this gets better.

> Tina

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Tina,

I admire you for braving a restaurant so early in the diet. We've

been on it over two months, and I'm still to chicken to try. Maybe

your first visit will be the worst one. Keep trying; because I

think those family traditions are so important to keep. It sends

the message to you all that life can still be lived on this diet. I

say this having completely failed in this area so far. Our first

regular meals at home were heart wrenching, when Ethan was still

hungry and we all still had full plates. The thing that helped make

it easier was when we went from a 4:1 ratio to 4.5:1 ratio, the

larger ketones made Ethan loose his voracious appetite. Of course,

I would never go to a higher ratio for that reason, it was just a

side-effect of the higher ratio that helped a bit. So, for you

having to go up from 3:1 might not be all bad. It did take Ethan a

week to adjust to the higher ketones, kindof like when he started

the diet.

You also mentioned topomax. My son was about 8 years old when he

tried topomax. We quit after twpo weeks, because word retrieval

became so diffficult for him that he even forgot his own brother's

name, once. HOwever, if the topomax is helping control seizures,

you might want to stick with it forawhile. I don't think it is

doing any long term damage to his language abilities. Kids that age

have so much to take in and are so good at taking information in

that they still aquire language even without showing it--you know,

the kids who never say anything until they are 4 or 5 and then

suddently have fluent speech.

Good luck as you continue the diet. Keep those family outings

going and maybe someday I will have the courage to follow your

example.

Gretchen

> We have just completed our fourth week on the diet. They just

> changed his ratio from 3:1 to 3.2:1 as we have noticed dips in his

> ketones and only temporary seizure control. He gets down to

moderate

> somewhere near the middle of the day and some times it drops to

low

> ketones before going back up in the evening. Has anyone else seen

> this to happen and what did you do other than raise ratio if

> anything. What would adding a meal do. Our dietician suggested

this

> as the next step, but I don't fully understand why. We need to

come

> down on his topamax since it is so high and we are seeing some

speech

> delays that may be related, but we are a little frightened to come

> down on it since topamax was the drug to get his gran mals under

> control. He only has them when his fever spikes or is sick now.

> Before he would have them all the time. We were hoping to get a

> little more consistent control before dropping the topamax.

>

> I am so afraid this will never work. We have been talking to his

> doctors about severe myoclonic epilepsy in infants. My husband

and I

> thought that his neurologist had clinically dismissed this as

's

> condition since he looked so good, but now we are seeing delays

(that

> might just be meds but we don't know) and now the neurologists are

> saying that they can't rule it out until is older. He is 17

> months old now and they said that age 2 1/2 would give them a

better

> picture. It has been a bad week. I really hate this diet. We

went

> out to eat after church today. I had packed 's lunch and

> everything. He ate it great, but cried as we ate and reached for

our

> food. He always loved to eat. We rushed to finish and leave

because

> it was tearing our hearts out and everyone was looking at our

table,

> I am sure they were wondering what was going on. Please someone

tell

> me this gets better.

> Tina

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