Re: We're gonna go on strike if you don't some supplies down here!!

[Guest guest]

The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting it.... That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that something is wrong.

Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that will reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings that are common with Hashi's.

And... just to put it into perspective.

If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that it takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep producing.

If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough hormone?

If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the fact that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal' TSH level have?

If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have enough hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need is by adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having a TSH at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the gland to produce more hormone?

If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't....... isn't it only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get the thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something is wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out, weight gain, all those things are the body saying....

Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own anymore... I need some tools down here.....

Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down here and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on strike!!!

You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough to do something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three weeks?

What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when everyone else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you warm if the furnace shuts down!!!

I'm still ranting... sorry...

Topper ()"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO what a ride!"

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:48:19 -0600 Jeannie writes:

I have never been told that I have Hashi's. When I had my first surgery in 1995 I had a large growth on the right half of my thyroid and the needle biopsy showed suspicious cells. Then in 2003 the same thing happened and they removed the remainder of my thyroid. I have had a really hard time getting my levels where they should be. The lowest my TSH has ben is 2.7, but it always goes back up. How would I know if I had Hashi's and would it still be active even after total removal?

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting it.... That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that something is wrong.

Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that will reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings that are common with Hashi's.

And... just to put it into perspective.

If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that it takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep producing.

If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough hormone?

If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the fact that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal' TSH level have?

If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have enough hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need is by adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having a TSH at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the gland to produce more hormone?

If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't....... isn't it only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get the thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something is wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out, weight gain, all those things are the body saying....

Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own anymore... I need some tools down here.....

Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down here and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on strike!!!

You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough to do something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three weeks?

What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when everyone else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you warm if the furnace shuts down!!!

I'm still ranting... sorry...

Topper ()"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO what a ride!"

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:48:19 -0600 Jeannie writes:

I have never been told that I have Hashi's. When I had my first surgery in 1995 I had a large growth on the right half of my thyroid and the needle biopsy showed suspicious cells. Then in 2003 the same thing happened and they removed the remainder of my thyroid. I have had a really hard time getting my levels where they should be. The lowest my TSH has ben is 2.7, but it always goes back up. How would I know if I had Hashi's and would it still be active even after total removal?

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting it.... That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that something is wrong.

Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that will reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings that are common with Hashi's.

And... just to put it into perspective.

If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that it takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep producing.

If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough hormone?

If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the fact that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal' TSH level have?

If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have enough hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need is by adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having a TSH at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the gland to produce more hormone?

If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't....... isn't it only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get the thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something is wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out, weight gain, all those things are the body saying....

Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own anymore... I need some tools down here.....

Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down here and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on strike!!!

You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough to do something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three weeks?

What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when everyone else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you warm if the furnace shuts down!!!

I'm still ranting... sorry...

Topper ()"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO what a ride!"

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:48:19 -0600 Jeannie writes:

I have never been told that I have Hashi's. When I had my first surgery in 1995 I had a large growth on the right half of my thyroid and the needle biopsy showed suspicious cells. Then in 2003 the same thing happened and they removed the remainder of my thyroid. I have had a really hard time getting my levels where they should be. The lowest my TSH has ben is 2.7, but it always goes back up. How would I know if I had Hashi's and would it still be active even after total removal?

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

But, Topper, her thyroid is gone, no gland for antibodies to

attack. So does that mean there's no accounting for the

fluctuations ?

When advising about tsh levels, do you keep in mind thyca's? We

have been told that tsh suppression is an aid in lessening

recurrence of the cancer.

jane

>

> The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any

> remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting

it....

> That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

>

> A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

>

> You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

>

> Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that

something is

> wrong.

> Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

> Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

> A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be

> depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that

will

> reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings

that

> are common with Hashi's.

>

> And... just to put it into perspective.

>

> If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that

it

> takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep

> producing.

> If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough

> hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough

> hormone?

> If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the

fact

> that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal'

TSH

> level have?

> If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have

enough

> hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need

is by

> adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having

a TSH

> at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the

gland to

> produce more hormone?

> If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't.......

isn't it

> only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

>

> Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get

the

> thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be

> healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

>

> Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something

is

> wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out,

weight

> gain, all those things are the body saying....

>

> Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own

anymore... I

> need some tools down here.....

>

> Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down

here

> and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on

strike!!!

>

> You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough

to do

> something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three

weeks?

>

> What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when

everyone

> else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you

warm

> if the furnace shuts down!!!

>

> I'm still ranting... sorry...

>

> Topper ()

> " Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of

arriving

> safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to

skid in

> sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn

out

> and screaming " WOO-HOO what a ride! "

[Guest guest]

Like I said in my original post, no one has ever told me that I have Hashi's. In fact no one has ever told me anything except that I was hypo and had tumors that were too large to shrink and showed suspicious cells, thus two surgeries. I didn't actually know that there was any such thing as Hashi's unitl I found this site. What type of test tell you if you have Hashi's? The lowest my TSH has been is 2.7, but it is presently at 11.1 and my T4 is 0.75 with a range of 0.78-2.19. They didn't do a T3, but he said he would when they retest in 6 weeks. About the time I think I might understand what is going on, I don't. Maybe someday I will figure this out and feel like a real person again.

Jeannie

Re: We're gonna go on strike if you don't some supplies down here!!

The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting it.... That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that something is wrong.

Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that will reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings that are common with Hashi's.

And... just to put it into perspective.

If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that it takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep producing.

If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough hormone?

If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the fact that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal' TSH level have?

If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have enough hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need is by adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having a TSH at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the gland to produce more hormone?

If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't....... isn't it only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get the thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something is wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out, weight gain, all those things are the body saying....

Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own anymore... I need some tools down here.....

Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down here and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on strike!!!

You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough to do something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three weeks?

What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when everyone else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you warm if the furnace shuts down!!!

I'm still ranting... sorry...

Topper ()"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO what a ride!"

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:48:19 -0600 Jeannie writes:

I have never been told that I have Hashi's. When I had my first surgery in 1995 I had a large growth on the right half of my thyroid and the needle biopsy showed suspicious cells. Then in 2003 the same thing happened and they removed the remainder of my thyroid. I have had a really hard time getting my levels where they should be. The lowest my TSH has ben is 2.7, but it always goes back up. How would I know if I had Hashi's and would it still be active even after total removal?

Jeannie

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Like I said in my original post, no one has ever told me that I have Hashi's. In fact no one has ever told me anything except that I was hypo and had tumors that were too large to shrink and showed suspicious cells, thus two surgeries. I didn't actually know that there was any such thing as Hashi's unitl I found this site. What type of test tell you if you have Hashi's? The lowest my TSH has been is 2.7, but it is presently at 11.1 and my T4 is 0.75 with a range of 0.78-2.19. They didn't do a T3, but he said he would when they retest in 6 weeks. About the time I think I might understand what is going on, I don't. Maybe someday I will figure this out and feel like a real person again.

Jeannie

Re: We're gonna go on strike if you don't some supplies down here!!

The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting it.... That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that something is wrong.

Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that will reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings that are common with Hashi's.

And... just to put it into perspective.

If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that it takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep producing.

If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough hormone?

If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the fact that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal' TSH level have?

If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have enough hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need is by adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having a TSH at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the gland to produce more hormone?

If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't....... isn't it only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get the thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something is wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out, weight gain, all those things are the body saying....

Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own anymore... I need some tools down here.....

Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down here and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on strike!!!

You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough to do something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three weeks?

What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when everyone else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you warm if the furnace shuts down!!!

I'm still ranting... sorry...

Topper ()"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO what a ride!"

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:48:19 -0600 Jeannie writes:

I have never been told that I have Hashi's. When I had my first surgery in 1995 I had a large growth on the right half of my thyroid and the needle biopsy showed suspicious cells. Then in 2003 the same thing happened and they removed the remainder of my thyroid. I have had a really hard time getting my levels where they should be. The lowest my TSH has ben is 2.7, but it always goes back up. How would I know if I had Hashi's and would it still be active even after total removal?

Jeannie

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Like I said in my original post, no one has ever told me that I have Hashi's. In fact no one has ever told me anything except that I was hypo and had tumors that were too large to shrink and showed suspicious cells, thus two surgeries. I didn't actually know that there was any such thing as Hashi's unitl I found this site. What type of test tell you if you have Hashi's? The lowest my TSH has been is 2.7, but it is presently at 11.1 and my T4 is 0.75 with a range of 0.78-2.19. They didn't do a T3, but he said he would when they retest in 6 weeks. About the time I think I might understand what is going on, I don't. Maybe someday I will figure this out and feel like a real person again.

Jeannie

Re: We're gonna go on strike if you don't some supplies down here!!

The Hashi's antibodies will still be there... and if there is any remaining gland function.. the antibodies are still affecting it.... That would account for the fluctuations, me thinks...

A TSH of 2.7 is still way too high....

You need to get the meds up.. or change meds...

Things to keep in mind. a TSH of over 2.0 is showing that something is wrong.

Most 'normal' folks have a TSH of 1.25

Most folks on hormone replacement feel best with a TSH below 1.0.

A TSH that is approaching zero means that the thyroid gland will be depressed and will not be affecting the antibody activity, that will reduce the fluctuations and the severity of the hypo/hyper swings that are common with Hashi's.

And... just to put it into perspective.

If the normal person has a TSH of 1.25, logically that means that it takes that level of TSH to remind the healthy thyroid gland to keep producing.

If the thyroid gland isn't working right, and can't put out enough hormone is that same level of TSH going to get it to produce enough hormone?

If it can't produce enough hormone due to illness or damage or the fact that it's not there anymore, what purpose dose having a 'normal' TSH level have?

If the TSH level rising is indicating that the body doesn't have enough hormone.. and the only way you can get the hormone that you need is by adding it via a supplement (natural or synthetic), doesn't having a TSH at anything above zero mean that your body is trying to get the gland to produce more hormone?

If the body is still telling to make more, and it can't....... isn't it only logical that you give it more via hormone supplementation?

Maybe I'm thinking this wrong...but shouldn't the goal be to get the thyroid hormone levels to where they need to be for the body to be healthy and symptoms to go away and not keep focusing on TSH?

Symptoms are the language that our bodies use to tell us something is wrong... poor digestion, fatigue, moodiness, hair falling out, weight gain, all those things are the body saying....

Hey!!! There is stuff down here that I can't do on my own anymore... I need some tools down here.....

Hey, up there!!! You listening to me?? I need some supplies down here and unless you get them down here more of us are gonna go on strike!!!

You think not being able to poop only once a week isn't bad enough to do something? How about we make it once every two weeks, or three weeks?

What if we slow stuff down so that you are frostbite cold when everyone else is in bikinis? All that fat we've put on ain't gonna keep you warm if the furnace shuts down!!!

I'm still ranting... sorry...

Topper ()"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body. But rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO what a ride!"

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:48:19 -0600 Jeannie writes:

I have never been told that I have Hashi's. When I had my first surgery in 1995 I had a large growth on the right half of my thyroid and the needle biopsy showed suspicious cells. Then in 2003 the same thing happened and they removed the remainder of my thyroid. I have had a really hard time getting my levels where they should be. The lowest my TSH has ben is 2.7, but it always goes back up. How would I know if I had Hashi's and would it still be active even after total removal?

Jeannie

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[Guest guest]

But, Topper, her thyroid is gone, no gland for antibodies to

> attack. So does that mean there's no accounting for the

> fluctuations ?

>

> When advising about tsh levels, do you keep in mind thyca's? We

> have been told that tsh suppression is an aid in lessening

> recurrence of the cancer.

>

> jane

The idea is the same..the reason the TSH is kept suppressed in both

Thyca and Hashi's is so any remaining thyroid tissue left in the

body after surgery is not stimulated..

The difference being in Hashi's the thyroid gland can be stimulated

to produce more thyroid hormone and at times produce no thyroid

hormone making it difficult to regulate with hormone replacement.

With Thyca the idea is to not stimulate any remaining thyroid tissue

left to prevent a reoccurence of cancer growth in any remaining

tissues.

The thyroid gland is a neat little package, but with all it does and

all it regulates and its location in the neck it is impossible to

remove 100%..a lot of blood vessels etc. run through the thyroid

and/or around the thyroid..these in sense are cut around..not to

mention where the blood supply feeding the thyroid is cut off..all

that tissue is impossible to remove..a skilled surgeon maybe gets 95-

99 % of it.

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

But, Topper, her thyroid is gone, no gland for antibodies to

> attack. So does that mean there's no accounting for the

> fluctuations ?

>

> When advising about tsh levels, do you keep in mind thyca's? We

> have been told that tsh suppression is an aid in lessening

> recurrence of the cancer.

>

> jane

The idea is the same..the reason the TSH is kept suppressed in both

Thyca and Hashi's is so any remaining thyroid tissue left in the

body after surgery is not stimulated..

The difference being in Hashi's the thyroid gland can be stimulated

to produce more thyroid hormone and at times produce no thyroid

hormone making it difficult to regulate with hormone replacement.

With Thyca the idea is to not stimulate any remaining thyroid tissue

left to prevent a reoccurence of cancer growth in any remaining

tissues.

The thyroid gland is a neat little package, but with all it does and

all it regulates and its location in the neck it is impossible to

remove 100%..a lot of blood vessels etc. run through the thyroid

and/or around the thyroid..these in sense are cut around..not to

mention where the blood supply feeding the thyroid is cut off..all

that tissue is impossible to remove..a skilled surgeon maybe gets 95-

99 % of it.

Kats3boys