Re: migraines - was Questions about insomnia / hypothyroid / hyperthyroid / chiari

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I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang onto, can mean I have more control over the health of my body, I go for it. If I could make the difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me. The idea fascinates me and I like going down the different roads it puts up and seeing what's down them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

jane

Re: migraines was Questions about insomnia / hypothyroid / hyperthyroid / chiari

Maybe your body is sensitive to the food change ie soups. Seems that, and the stopping the adrenal thing, and change of seasons of being inside with heat, are the changes.

Interesting story, for another spin on migraines, from the psychiatrist I saw and am seeing. She gets migraines, too often. She's into alternative treatment, looks into it when traditional medicine fails. So, she's worked with what she eats and vitamins, into bowel health and what we put in our body. She says one day she got tired of her migraines and told her body "I don't care what you do, but I don't want migraines anymore." Says the next day she woke up with digestive problems ( I think she referred politely to diarrhea.) Never had another migraine, but had digestive problems. Says went to docs, had all the tests, no cause found. Digestion was interfering with her being able to be shrink. So she talks to her body again, and says "ok, I'll take the migraines back." Digestive stuff goes away, migraines are back. She says she thinks for her it's a way to try to say to the world that she's a victim, feel sorry for me I have migraines. The lines connect for me, I can see how it could be that way. This psych stuff really intrigues me and is a well that I think will never be fully plumbed in a lifetime. I get curious, so look for the threads and where they lead, in this case, with things we do to hang onto victim mentality. Too many of my friends of the last 20+ yrs have been shrinks, and tidbits of conversation they drop here and there started adding up to intrigue of how to look at the world that way. It's one of my passions. Never want to be the shrink, tho, couldn't handle the power given. But real curious to explore that world in me.

jane

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About 13 years ago I was going through a very

difficult divorce. I spoke to a counsellor about some

of the physical symptoms I had, particularly fatigue

and weakness in my legs. My counsellor suggested that

Freud might have told me the weakness in my legs was

due to my not wanting to face life as it was full of

so many difficulties. I was aware that somatized

anxiety can cause such things and so didn't seek

further medical help at that time. As my hypo symptoms

worsened I was told over and over again that the

reason I couldn't walk was either due to CFS or

depression.

Thyroid replacement has fixed all those problems; my

doctor was wrong, my counsellor was wrong and Freud

would have been wrong. Yes stress does cause horrible

symptoms, but stress itself is worse when the thyroid

is out of wack; the body is weaker when undertreated;

the mind-body link is bound to malfunction when

hormones are unbalanced.

--- R-Jane wrote:

> I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant

> about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore

> it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang

> onto, can mean I have more control over the health

> of my body, I go for it. If I could make the

> difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when

> I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me.

> The idea fascinates me and I like going down the

> different roads it puts up and seeing what's down

> them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

>

> jane

>

>

> Re:

> migraines was Questions about insomnia / hypothyroid

> / hyperthyroid / chiari

>

>

> Maybe your body is sensitive to the food change

> ie soups. Seems that, and the stopping the adrenal

> thing, and change of seasons of being inside with

> heat, are the changes.

>

> Interesting story, for another spin on

> migraines, from the psychiatrist I saw and am

> seeing. She gets migraines, too often. She's into

> alternative treatment, looks into it when

> traditional medicine fails. So, she's worked with

> what she eats and vitamins, into bowel health and

> what we put in our body. She says one day she got

> tired of her migraines and told her body " I don't

> care what you do, but I don't want migraines

> anymore. " Says the next day she woke up with

> digestive problems ( I think she referred politely

> to diarrhea.) Never had another migraine, but had

> digestive problems. Says went to docs, had all the

> tests, no cause found. Digestion was interfering

> with her being able to be shrink. So she talks to

> her body again, and says " ok, I'll take the

> migraines back. " Digestive stuff goes away,

> migraines are back. She says she thinks for her

> it's a way to try to say to the world that she's a

> victim, feel sorry for me I have migraines. The

> lines connect for me, I can see how it could be that

> way. This psych stuff really intrigues me and is a

> well that I think will never be fully plumbed in a

> lifetime. I get curious, so look for the threads

> and where they lead, in this case, with things we do

> to hang onto victim mentality. Too many of my

> friends of the last 20+ yrs have been shrinks, and

> tidbits of conversation they drop here and there

> started adding up to intrigue of how to look at the

> world that way. It's one of my passions. Never

> want to be the shrink, tho, couldn't handle the

> power given. But real curious to explore that world

> in me.

>

> jane

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About 13 years ago I was going through a very

difficult divorce. I spoke to a counsellor about some

of the physical symptoms I had, particularly fatigue

and weakness in my legs. My counsellor suggested that

Freud might have told me the weakness in my legs was

due to my not wanting to face life as it was full of

so many difficulties. I was aware that somatized

anxiety can cause such things and so didn't seek

further medical help at that time. As my hypo symptoms

worsened I was told over and over again that the

reason I couldn't walk was either due to CFS or

depression.

Thyroid replacement has fixed all those problems; my

doctor was wrong, my counsellor was wrong and Freud

would have been wrong. Yes stress does cause horrible

symptoms, but stress itself is worse when the thyroid

is out of wack; the body is weaker when undertreated;

the mind-body link is bound to malfunction when

hormones are unbalanced.

--- R-Jane wrote:

> I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant

> about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore

> it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang

> onto, can mean I have more control over the health

> of my body, I go for it. If I could make the

> difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when

> I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me.

> The idea fascinates me and I like going down the

> different roads it puts up and seeing what's down

> them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

>

> jane

>

>

> Re:

> migraines was Questions about insomnia / hypothyroid

> / hyperthyroid / chiari

>

>

> Maybe your body is sensitive to the food change

> ie soups. Seems that, and the stopping the adrenal

> thing, and change of seasons of being inside with

> heat, are the changes.

>

> Interesting story, for another spin on

> migraines, from the psychiatrist I saw and am

> seeing. She gets migraines, too often. She's into

> alternative treatment, looks into it when

> traditional medicine fails. So, she's worked with

> what she eats and vitamins, into bowel health and

> what we put in our body. She says one day she got

> tired of her migraines and told her body " I don't

> care what you do, but I don't want migraines

> anymore. " Says the next day she woke up with

> digestive problems ( I think she referred politely

> to diarrhea.) Never had another migraine, but had

> digestive problems. Says went to docs, had all the

> tests, no cause found. Digestion was interfering

> with her being able to be shrink. So she talks to

> her body again, and says " ok, I'll take the

> migraines back. " Digestive stuff goes away,

> migraines are back. She says she thinks for her

> it's a way to try to say to the world that she's a

> victim, feel sorry for me I have migraines. The

> lines connect for me, I can see how it could be that

> way. This psych stuff really intrigues me and is a

> well that I think will never be fully plumbed in a

> lifetime. I get curious, so look for the threads

> and where they lead, in this case, with things we do

> to hang onto victim mentality. Too many of my

> friends of the last 20+ yrs have been shrinks, and

> tidbits of conversation they drop here and there

> started adding up to intrigue of how to look at the

> world that way. It's one of my passions. Never

> want to be the shrink, tho, couldn't handle the

> power given. But real curious to explore that world

> in me.

>

> jane

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I believe (and it is also listed as one of the major causes) that long yrs

of emotional stress did help bring forward my Hashimoto's. I also divorced

13 yrs ago, but the disease had already begun manifesting during the

previous 6 yrs right before that, with the long heavy periods, and multiple

other symptoms, extreme weight also. I left him, and yes, it was

disappointing to know that I HAD to leave a marriage that I had always

intended to have, but, I was ultimately much happier. Too late for the

thyroid disease, because it had already gotten that ball rolling and

couldn't stop, I don't suppose, who knows. My issue with doctors isn't a

bitter thing, it has now become sort of a crusade to help make people aware

that their best offense is a good defense. To learn and become aware that

they need to know that everyone in the medical world doesn't necessarily

either have their best interests at heart, and also that every doctor is not

a good doctor and maybe doesn't have the knowledge they need. Knowledge is

empowerment, and I feel much more empowered, not helpless or needy at all.

I simply want others to know it too. BTW, I had a bipolar brother who is

now deceased, so the psyche's connection to what's going on physically

certainly has been one of the most fascinating things to me about medicine.

If you've been there, then you have more of a tendency to " feel it " . I also

had a long period of bipolar disorder, caused by hyperthyroidism (first

phase Hashi's), so I have a tendency more to feel it, when others have

mental illness, vitimization, etc......I felt like a vitim way back then,

but I certainly don't any more. I just don't want others to become

unknowing victims, so that they'll be aware of their options. And I don't

feel the need to fight with anyone at all, that's what I USED to do.

Re: migraines - was Questions

about insomnia / hypothyroid / hyperthyroid / chiari

> About 13 years ago I was going through a very

> difficult divorce. I spoke to a counsellor about some

> of the physical symptoms I had, particularly fatigue

> and weakness in my legs. My counsellor suggested that

> Freud might have told me the weakness in my legs was

> due to my not wanting to face life as it was full of

> so many difficulties. I was aware that somatized

> anxiety can cause such things and so didn't seek

> further medical help at that time. As my hypo symptoms

> worsened I was told over and over again that the

> reason I couldn't walk was either due to CFS or

> depression.

> Thyroid replacement has fixed all those problems; my

> doctor was wrong, my counsellor was wrong and Freud

> would have been wrong. Yes stress does cause horrible

> symptoms, but stress itself is worse when the thyroid

> is out of wack; the body is weaker when undertreated;

> the mind-body link is bound to malfunction when

> hormones are unbalanced.

>

>

>

> --- R-Jane wrote:

>

> > I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant

> > about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore

> > it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang

> > onto, can mean I have more control over the health

> > of my body, I go for it. If I could make the

> > difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when

> > I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me.

> > The idea fascinates me and I like going down the

> > different roads it puts up and seeing what's down

> > them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

> >

> > jane

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The connections are interesting . I have a brother, well,

technically half brother which might be why I missed the gene, who

has schizophrenia, and I'm the one who looks after him. So, I have

learned a lot about mental illness.

Also, in the last year or so, a psychiatrist who does some of my

meds, was looking into the possiblity that there might be a bipolar

thing going on with me, only I don't present the classic manic. She

was thinking that perhaps my insomnia was the manic thing. Anyhow,

since the thyroid cancer and stuff has presented, she thinks many of

the things she has me medicated for has been thyroid, and no

bipolar, that's thyroid stuff.

Oh, there is more I would like to add, but must run. When we are

back with the computer later this week, perhaps I'll chime in more.

jane

> >

> > > I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant

> > > about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore

> > > it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang

> > > onto, can mean I have more control over the health

> > > of my body, I go for it. If I could make the

> > > difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when

> > > I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me.

> > > The idea fascinates me and I like going down the

> > > different roads it puts up and seeing what's down

> > > them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

> > >

> > > jane

>

[Guest guest]

The connections are interesting . I have a brother, well,

technically half brother which might be why I missed the gene, who

has schizophrenia, and I'm the one who looks after him. So, I have

learned a lot about mental illness.

Also, in the last year or so, a psychiatrist who does some of my

meds, was looking into the possiblity that there might be a bipolar

thing going on with me, only I don't present the classic manic. She

was thinking that perhaps my insomnia was the manic thing. Anyhow,

since the thyroid cancer and stuff has presented, she thinks many of

the things she has me medicated for has been thyroid, and no

bipolar, that's thyroid stuff.

Oh, there is more I would like to add, but must run. When we are

back with the computer later this week, perhaps I'll chime in more.

jane

> >

> > > I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant

> > > about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore

> > > it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang

> > > onto, can mean I have more control over the health

> > > of my body, I go for it. If I could make the

> > > difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when

> > > I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me.

> > > The idea fascinates me and I like going down the

> > > different roads it puts up and seeing what's down

> > > them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

> > >

> > > jane

>

[Guest guest]

The connections are interesting . I have a brother, well,

technically half brother which might be why I missed the gene, who

has schizophrenia, and I'm the one who looks after him. So, I have

learned a lot about mental illness.

Also, in the last year or so, a psychiatrist who does some of my

meds, was looking into the possiblity that there might be a bipolar

thing going on with me, only I don't present the classic manic. She

was thinking that perhaps my insomnia was the manic thing. Anyhow,

since the thyroid cancer and stuff has presented, she thinks many of

the things she has me medicated for has been thyroid, and no

bipolar, that's thyroid stuff.

Oh, there is more I would like to add, but must run. When we are

back with the computer later this week, perhaps I'll chime in more.

jane

> >

> > > I won't fight you on this , you sound so adamant

> > > about it. I find it fascinating and want to explore

> > > it in my life. If letting go of victim ways I hang

> > > onto, can mean I have more control over the health

> > > of my body, I go for it. If I could make the

> > > difference so that my back doesn't go out on me when

> > > I'm stressed, that's progress right there for me.

> > > The idea fascinates me and I like going down the

> > > different roads it puts up and seeing what's down

> > > them. The psyche just fascinates me. I'm hooked.

> > >

> > > jane

>

[Guest guest]

I meant to say " extreme weight LOSS " in this email, where it says " extreme

weight " . Sorry bout that folks!

Re: migraines - was Questions

about insomnia / hypothyroid / hyperthyroid / chiari

> I believe (and it is also listed as one of the major causes) that long yrs

> of emotional stress did help bring forward my Hashimoto's. I also

divorced

> 13 yrs ago, but the disease had already begun manifesting during the

> previous 6 yrs right before that, with the long heavy periods, and

multiple

> other symptoms, extreme weight also.