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Hi Peggy,

Your doses of both the antithyroid drug and beta blocker may be too high.

After 4-6 weeks on the meds, your ATD dose is generally reduced and you're

taken off the beta blocker or it's used as needed.

But this isn't life-long therapy. You take the meds til you achieve

remission. On average this is 6 months to a year, although we all have

different disease courses. Some people achieve remission within a few weeks

and for others it takes years. Dietary and lifestyle changes can help move

the process along.

What you will have is a life-long condition. That is, after you achieve

remission you can have relapses of your disorder. However, the majority of

patients who use ATDs end up achieving permanent remission. Once your meds

are lowered, your symptoms of brain fog should be reduced. Brain fog is

usually a symptom of hypoT, and that's why I suspect the meds as being a bit

too high. Good luck, Elaine

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Hi Peggy,

Your doses of both the antithyroid drug and beta blocker may be too high.

After 4-6 weeks on the meds, your ATD dose is generally reduced and you're

taken off the beta blocker or it's used as needed.

But this isn't life-long therapy. You take the meds til you achieve

remission. On average this is 6 months to a year, although we all have

different disease courses. Some people achieve remission within a few weeks

and for others it takes years. Dietary and lifestyle changes can help move

the process along.

What you will have is a life-long condition. That is, after you achieve

remission you can have relapses of your disorder. However, the majority of

patients who use ATDs end up achieving permanent remission. Once your meds

are lowered, your symptoms of brain fog should be reduced. Brain fog is

usually a symptom of hypoT, and that's why I suspect the meds as being a bit

too high. Good luck, Elaine

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Hi Peggy,

Your doses of both the antithyroid drug and beta blocker may be too high.

After 4-6 weeks on the meds, your ATD dose is generally reduced and you're

taken off the beta blocker or it's used as needed.

But this isn't life-long therapy. You take the meds til you achieve

remission. On average this is 6 months to a year, although we all have

different disease courses. Some people achieve remission within a few weeks

and for others it takes years. Dietary and lifestyle changes can help move

the process along.

What you will have is a life-long condition. That is, after you achieve

remission you can have relapses of your disorder. However, the majority of

patients who use ATDs end up achieving permanent remission. Once your meds

are lowered, your symptoms of brain fog should be reduced. Brain fog is

usually a symptom of hypoT, and that's why I suspect the meds as being a bit

too high. Good luck, Elaine

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Hi Peggy,

Welcome to the list. I have been on this list for a couple of weeks, but was

diagnosed with Graves in November.

I was on PTU for a short amount of time (I am allergic). I had RAI in January.

I know I had some of the thinking one thing, doing another, but I don't remember

when it stopped.

You will find a good deal of information and support on this list - glad you are

here!

Amy

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Hi Peggy,

Welcome to the list. I have been on this list for a couple of weeks, but was

diagnosed with Graves in November.

I was on PTU for a short amount of time (I am allergic). I had RAI in January.

I know I had some of the thinking one thing, doing another, but I don't remember

when it stopped.

You will find a good deal of information and support on this list - glad you are

here!

Amy

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Hi Peggy,

Welcome to the list. I have been on this list for a couple of weeks, but was

diagnosed with Graves in November.

I was on PTU for a short amount of time (I am allergic). I had RAI in January.

I know I had some of the thinking one thing, doing another, but I don't remember

when it stopped.

You will find a good deal of information and support on this list - glad you are

here!

Amy

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Welcome Peggy!

Your dose of Tapazole seems low to me...I was started on 40 mg/day when I was

diagnosed, and it took about 10 days to 2 weeks before I started to feel all the

symptoms start to fade. Others can help you more, but just to let you know,

before I was diagnosed, my husband was very worried about me because every other

sentence out of my mouth was, " Oh, I forgot " . And then, I'd get irrationally

angry with him for assuming there was anything wrong with me. The brain fog was

bad for me too...but once your treatment gets you stabilized, that should be

much better. I am always amazed at how systemic this disease is. It affects all

kinds of bodily parts..not just causing goiters and eye problems. Hair loss is

common...my toenails are separating from the nail beds...there can be skin

problems, weight loss and gain, always either cold or hot...it just blows me

away how many systems this affects, but learning from all of these ladies has

been such a source of comfort...anything you might find yourself dealing with

can be explained and/or commiserated with. Take care and good luck with your

midterms. The wise ladies here will chime in with all the best advice.

Ruthie

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Welcome Peggy!

Your dose of Tapazole seems low to me...I was started on 40 mg/day when I was

diagnosed, and it took about 10 days to 2 weeks before I started to feel all the

symptoms start to fade. Others can help you more, but just to let you know,

before I was diagnosed, my husband was very worried about me because every other

sentence out of my mouth was, " Oh, I forgot " . And then, I'd get irrationally

angry with him for assuming there was anything wrong with me. The brain fog was

bad for me too...but once your treatment gets you stabilized, that should be

much better. I am always amazed at how systemic this disease is. It affects all

kinds of bodily parts..not just causing goiters and eye problems. Hair loss is

common...my toenails are separating from the nail beds...there can be skin

problems, weight loss and gain, always either cold or hot...it just blows me

away how many systems this affects, but learning from all of these ladies has

been such a source of comfort...anything you might find yourself dealing with

can be explained and/or commiserated with. Take care and good luck with your

midterms. The wise ladies here will chime in with all the best advice.

Ruthie

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Welcome Peggy!

Your dose of Tapazole seems low to me...I was started on 40 mg/day when I was

diagnosed, and it took about 10 days to 2 weeks before I started to feel all the

symptoms start to fade. Others can help you more, but just to let you know,

before I was diagnosed, my husband was very worried about me because every other

sentence out of my mouth was, " Oh, I forgot " . And then, I'd get irrationally

angry with him for assuming there was anything wrong with me. The brain fog was

bad for me too...but once your treatment gets you stabilized, that should be

much better. I am always amazed at how systemic this disease is. It affects all

kinds of bodily parts..not just causing goiters and eye problems. Hair loss is

common...my toenails are separating from the nail beds...there can be skin

problems, weight loss and gain, always either cold or hot...it just blows me

away how many systems this affects, but learning from all of these ladies has

been such a source of comfort...anything you might find yourself dealing with

can be explained and/or commiserated with. Take care and good luck with your

midterms. The wise ladies here will chime in with all the best advice.

Ruthie

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Hi Peggy,

Welcome to the group. I am around the same age as you and was diagnosed with

Graves about 3 months ago. I understand how you feel but you will find a

good deal of support here in this group.

As for the " confusion " I have the same thing, but as far as I am aware it it

the Graves itself which causes the problem not the drugs, as when I am going

through a good period I am fine. I too do bizarre things, but my worst

problem I have at the moment is not being able to concentrate and forgetting

things. I start talking about something and then realize I have forgotten

the name of something. It can be quite embarrassing. I am sure that people

think I have gone somewhere else in my mind, a crazy place maybe... but in

fact I am actually desperately trying to think of a word.

Anyways take care,

Katy

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Peggy,

Welcome to the group! Unfortunately, your doctor is right. It takes about 6

weeks after you first start ATDs for it to reach its full effect. Also,

unfortunately, what you're describing are all typical Graves' symptoms. You

can't even read my handwriting when I'm hyper, so I do everything on the

computer! You just do really stupid things, and you can't help it. It's a

horrible feeling, I know. My worst thing was I couldn't carry on a

conversation all of a sudden. The words wouldn't come out, or I couldn't

find the right words, or they got mixed up, etc. It really scared me that I

had some kind of degenerative brain disease or something before I found out

it was just the Graves'. I even thought at one point that I'd developed

dyslexia somehow! I promise you it will go away when you get your levels

straightened out.

You've come to a good place. We've all been through what you're going

through!

Take care,

Holly

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Peggy,

Welcome to the group! Unfortunately, your doctor is right. It takes about 6

weeks after you first start ATDs for it to reach its full effect. Also,

unfortunately, what you're describing are all typical Graves' symptoms. You

can't even read my handwriting when I'm hyper, so I do everything on the

computer! You just do really stupid things, and you can't help it. It's a

horrible feeling, I know. My worst thing was I couldn't carry on a

conversation all of a sudden. The words wouldn't come out, or I couldn't

find the right words, or they got mixed up, etc. It really scared me that I

had some kind of degenerative brain disease or something before I found out

it was just the Graves'. I even thought at one point that I'd developed

dyslexia somehow! I promise you it will go away when you get your levels

straightened out.

You've come to a good place. We've all been through what you're going

through!

Take care,

Holly

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Peggy,

Welcome to the group! Unfortunately, your doctor is right. It takes about 6

weeks after you first start ATDs for it to reach its full effect. Also,

unfortunately, what you're describing are all typical Graves' symptoms. You

can't even read my handwriting when I'm hyper, so I do everything on the

computer! You just do really stupid things, and you can't help it. It's a

horrible feeling, I know. My worst thing was I couldn't carry on a

conversation all of a sudden. The words wouldn't come out, or I couldn't

find the right words, or they got mixed up, etc. It really scared me that I

had some kind of degenerative brain disease or something before I found out

it was just the Graves'. I even thought at one point that I'd developed

dyslexia somehow! I promise you it will go away when you get your levels

straightened out.

You've come to a good place. We've all been through what you're going

through!

Take care,

Holly

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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I was on 5 mg twice a day to start as higher dosages made me really sick.

They montiroed me once a week though and I responded quite well. Of course

I weighed NOTHING at the time LOL. Anyway I was only on it for 1 1/2 and

i've been med free since.

Amy

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> As for the " confusion " I have the same thing, but as far as I am aware it it

> the Graves itself which causes the problem not the drugs, as when I am going

> through a good period I am fine. I too do bizarre things, but my worst

> problem I have at the moment is not being able to concentrate and forgetting

> things. I start talking about something and then realize I have forgotten

> the name of something. It can be quite embarrassing. I am sure that people

> think I have gone somewhere else in my mind, a crazy place maybe... but in

> fact I am actually desperately trying to think of a word.

I go through the same thing. I'll be talking and can't come up with a

word.. " thingy " has become my standard word to use in that situation now.

*laugh* " , I need that big pointy thingy! " " You mean the meat fork? "

" Yeah, that's it. "

I also find myself saying the wrong word -- meaning " plane " and saying

" planet " ... I do that frequently since we own a small Cessna. I've

finally given up on " plane " and just call it " Charlie " .. figure that's

something I can't screw up. If I'm speaking and get interrupted for even

two seconds, I completely forget about what I was talking about --

mid-sentence. Frequently, I stumble over words and give the general

impression that I'm slurring them or stuttering.

But here's the really funny thing -- when I screw up a word, I can hear it

and know it as plain as day. But swears that he never notices. I

don't know if that's a Good Thing or a Bad Thing *.

One time last week I was putting the milk away and opened the cabinet

where I store our glasses & mugs instead of the fridge. Then I opened the

freezer to put the cereal away. DUH. No clue why I did that. I've

walked into a room only to forget why I walked in there. *laugh* Now,

combine this with the fact that I've just joined my husband's volunteer

fire department as a photographer. " .. move out of the way, I want to

get a shot of that big red and yellow thingy over there. " " Which one? "

" The one on the bumper! " " Oh.. you mean the Humat? " " Yeah, that thingy. "

Oh -- they're gonna love me when they start training me on the equipment

and I have to learn the words to describe a thousand new " thingies " .

I'm expecting a call from my Doctor in the next couple of hours to see how

my labs went yesterday. Hopefully he can start medicating me for the hypO

state that I'm now in. I think my TSH has backed down some, but not

enough as I'm really starting to get hypO symptoms, and my eyes are

driving me NUTSO! I saw an opthamologist last week who spent quite a lot

of time looking me over. She could find no actual evidence of Graves Eye

Disease, and the 2mm protrusion that I had pre-RAI is gone now. Dunno if

it was the RAI, or the Medrol & Prednizone, but I'm just happy that it's

been reversed.. hopefully it stays that way. :-D Can't wait to get my new

eyeglass prescription next week so I can toss the current ones out and

actually SEE something again.

--patti

*A long time ago, I started using the phrase " Good Thing or Bad Thing " to

refer to any given situation. Someone jokingly told me that I should

trademark it, so from then on I've modified that phrase to " Good Thing

or Bad Thing " to make an even bigger joke. :-D

*~*~*~*~*

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> As for the " confusion " I have the same thing, but as far as I am aware it it

> the Graves itself which causes the problem not the drugs, as when I am going

> through a good period I am fine. I too do bizarre things, but my worst

> problem I have at the moment is not being able to concentrate and forgetting

> things. I start talking about something and then realize I have forgotten

> the name of something. It can be quite embarrassing. I am sure that people

> think I have gone somewhere else in my mind, a crazy place maybe... but in

> fact I am actually desperately trying to think of a word.

I go through the same thing. I'll be talking and can't come up with a

word.. " thingy " has become my standard word to use in that situation now.

*laugh* " , I need that big pointy thingy! " " You mean the meat fork? "

" Yeah, that's it. "

I also find myself saying the wrong word -- meaning " plane " and saying

" planet " ... I do that frequently since we own a small Cessna. I've

finally given up on " plane " and just call it " Charlie " .. figure that's

something I can't screw up. If I'm speaking and get interrupted for even

two seconds, I completely forget about what I was talking about --

mid-sentence. Frequently, I stumble over words and give the general

impression that I'm slurring them or stuttering.

But here's the really funny thing -- when I screw up a word, I can hear it

and know it as plain as day. But swears that he never notices. I

don't know if that's a Good Thing or a Bad Thing *.

One time last week I was putting the milk away and opened the cabinet

where I store our glasses & mugs instead of the fridge. Then I opened the

freezer to put the cereal away. DUH. No clue why I did that. I've

walked into a room only to forget why I walked in there. *laugh* Now,

combine this with the fact that I've just joined my husband's volunteer

fire department as a photographer. " .. move out of the way, I want to

get a shot of that big red and yellow thingy over there. " " Which one? "

" The one on the bumper! " " Oh.. you mean the Humat? " " Yeah, that thingy. "

Oh -- they're gonna love me when they start training me on the equipment

and I have to learn the words to describe a thousand new " thingies " .

I'm expecting a call from my Doctor in the next couple of hours to see how

my labs went yesterday. Hopefully he can start medicating me for the hypO

state that I'm now in. I think my TSH has backed down some, but not

enough as I'm really starting to get hypO symptoms, and my eyes are

driving me NUTSO! I saw an opthamologist last week who spent quite a lot

of time looking me over. She could find no actual evidence of Graves Eye

Disease, and the 2mm protrusion that I had pre-RAI is gone now. Dunno if

it was the RAI, or the Medrol & Prednizone, but I'm just happy that it's

been reversed.. hopefully it stays that way. :-D Can't wait to get my new

eyeglass prescription next week so I can toss the current ones out and

actually SEE something again.

--patti

*A long time ago, I started using the phrase " Good Thing or Bad Thing " to

refer to any given situation. Someone jokingly told me that I should

trademark it, so from then on I've modified that phrase to " Good Thing

or Bad Thing " to make an even bigger joke. :-D

*~*~*~*~*

Patti Spicer patti@...

" Those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither "

--Ben lin

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> As for the " confusion " I have the same thing, but as far as I am aware it it

> the Graves itself which causes the problem not the drugs, as when I am going

> through a good period I am fine. I too do bizarre things, but my worst

> problem I have at the moment is not being able to concentrate and forgetting

> things. I start talking about something and then realize I have forgotten

> the name of something. It can be quite embarrassing. I am sure that people

> think I have gone somewhere else in my mind, a crazy place maybe... but in

> fact I am actually desperately trying to think of a word.

I go through the same thing. I'll be talking and can't come up with a

word.. " thingy " has become my standard word to use in that situation now.

*laugh* " , I need that big pointy thingy! " " You mean the meat fork? "

" Yeah, that's it. "

I also find myself saying the wrong word -- meaning " plane " and saying

" planet " ... I do that frequently since we own a small Cessna. I've

finally given up on " plane " and just call it " Charlie " .. figure that's

something I can't screw up. If I'm speaking and get interrupted for even

two seconds, I completely forget about what I was talking about --

mid-sentence. Frequently, I stumble over words and give the general

impression that I'm slurring them or stuttering.

But here's the really funny thing -- when I screw up a word, I can hear it

and know it as plain as day. But swears that he never notices. I

don't know if that's a Good Thing or a Bad Thing *.

One time last week I was putting the milk away and opened the cabinet

where I store our glasses & mugs instead of the fridge. Then I opened the

freezer to put the cereal away. DUH. No clue why I did that. I've

walked into a room only to forget why I walked in there. *laugh* Now,

combine this with the fact that I've just joined my husband's volunteer

fire department as a photographer. " .. move out of the way, I want to

get a shot of that big red and yellow thingy over there. " " Which one? "

" The one on the bumper! " " Oh.. you mean the Humat? " " Yeah, that thingy. "

Oh -- they're gonna love me when they start training me on the equipment

and I have to learn the words to describe a thousand new " thingies " .

I'm expecting a call from my Doctor in the next couple of hours to see how

my labs went yesterday. Hopefully he can start medicating me for the hypO

state that I'm now in. I think my TSH has backed down some, but not

enough as I'm really starting to get hypO symptoms, and my eyes are

driving me NUTSO! I saw an opthamologist last week who spent quite a lot

of time looking me over. She could find no actual evidence of Graves Eye

Disease, and the 2mm protrusion that I had pre-RAI is gone now. Dunno if

it was the RAI, or the Medrol & Prednizone, but I'm just happy that it's

been reversed.. hopefully it stays that way. :-D Can't wait to get my new

eyeglass prescription next week so I can toss the current ones out and

actually SEE something again.

--patti

*A long time ago, I started using the phrase " Good Thing or Bad Thing " to

refer to any given situation. Someone jokingly told me that I should

trademark it, so from then on I've modified that phrase to " Good Thing

or Bad Thing " to make an even bigger joke. :-D

*~*~*~*~*

Patti Spicer patti@...

" Those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither "

--Ben lin

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Katy,

The thing that you are describing, besides being common for so many of us, is

also " normal " in the population but probably not ocuring as frequently as when

we are hormonally challenged. Its called " tip of the tongue " phenomena (really!

that's what the Linguists call it) In theory, its a breakdown of the speech

production process. There is this little trick, known as priming. What seems

to happen is that you try to recall a word and, if you don't get it, you think

about what it sounds like, what it is associated with and maybe what consonants

or vowels it starts with. Think about it really hard, and then let it go.

Within a relatively short period of time you will probably recall the silly

thing.

This is supposed to work because if you think of something, say " dog " your brain

has associated stuff with it. Like bone, dish, walk, poodle and you will think

of these things as well. For most people the association with how it sounds

works better. Probably because of the stage in speech production that the word

is in when the glitch happens.

I know that this doesn't help much if you are trying to carry on a conversation,

especially a serious one. But it can help you to get rid of that annoyance that

comes from not remembering.

Laurel

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Katy,

The thing that you are describing, besides being common for so many of us, is

also " normal " in the population but probably not ocuring as frequently as when

we are hormonally challenged. Its called " tip of the tongue " phenomena (really!

that's what the Linguists call it) In theory, its a breakdown of the speech

production process. There is this little trick, known as priming. What seems

to happen is that you try to recall a word and, if you don't get it, you think

about what it sounds like, what it is associated with and maybe what consonants

or vowels it starts with. Think about it really hard, and then let it go.

Within a relatively short period of time you will probably recall the silly

thing.

This is supposed to work because if you think of something, say " dog " your brain

has associated stuff with it. Like bone, dish, walk, poodle and you will think

of these things as well. For most people the association with how it sounds

works better. Probably because of the stage in speech production that the word

is in when the glitch happens.

I know that this doesn't help much if you are trying to carry on a conversation,

especially a serious one. But it can help you to get rid of that annoyance that

comes from not remembering.

Laurel

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Katy,

The thing that you are describing, besides being common for so many of us, is

also " normal " in the population but probably not ocuring as frequently as when

we are hormonally challenged. Its called " tip of the tongue " phenomena (really!

that's what the Linguists call it) In theory, its a breakdown of the speech

production process. There is this little trick, known as priming. What seems

to happen is that you try to recall a word and, if you don't get it, you think

about what it sounds like, what it is associated with and maybe what consonants

or vowels it starts with. Think about it really hard, and then let it go.

Within a relatively short period of time you will probably recall the silly

thing.

This is supposed to work because if you think of something, say " dog " your brain

has associated stuff with it. Like bone, dish, walk, poodle and you will think

of these things as well. For most people the association with how it sounds

works better. Probably because of the stage in speech production that the word

is in when the glitch happens.

I know that this doesn't help much if you are trying to carry on a conversation,

especially a serious one. But it can help you to get rid of that annoyance that

comes from not remembering.

Laurel

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Hi Peggy,

Welcome to this group, I'm glad you found us.

>>>I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

>>>frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but it's

>>>really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage isn't

>>>quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not sleeping

>>>well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been on it for a

>>>month. Is this the way this usually works?<<<

Give the Tap some time to work. Even though it is blocking your thyroid

from making more hormone, you still have an excess of thyroid hormone in

your body that needs to get used up. When this is done, you will begin to

see differences in your symptoms and how you feel. Your doctor sounds like

he/she knows how to use the atd's (a blessing for you, honest!), it will

take 4-6 weeks for all the excess to get used up and to see the differences.

Some people do react quicker to atd use, so give yourself some time,

things will get better.

>>>But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...<<<

We call this brain fog and it is one of the most frustrating things about

this disease, especially in the beginning. As you become euthyroid, your

brain will start working again. My brain fog is so much worse when I am

hypO. I use to break down in tears, would be looking at my car keys and

couldn't remember what they were called, or walk in an out of a room several

times before remembering what I was going in there for in the first place.

The misspelling is also bad for me, thank God for spell check! I also

transpose a lot of words when typing, I call it dyslexic typing and I use to

type 90 wpm with no errors...ahhhh those were the days. It does get better

though.

I do suggest you look in the archives, somewhere around 2/11 and bring up

the symptoms list I bumped back up into the group and print it out. You will

now need to learn and watch for hypO symptoms and call your doctor at the

first sign of them for new labs so your atd dose can be adjusted as needed

to keep you from going hypo.

There are also 2 excellent books that will be a great help to you, one is

The Thyroid Solution by Dr. Ridha Arem; a good overall thyroid book and will

explain much. The other is Graves Disease; A Practical Guide by Elaine

, which will really jump start your learning about this disease and

help you to become proactive in your treatment. The more you learn and

know, the better you will feel. Being proactive is a must for us to get

quality back in our lives.

There is no quick fix or quick treatment for Graves Disease, it is going to

take time, learn to relax, reduce stress (stress is a HUGE enemy for us)and

be gentle with yourself.

Hope some of this helps,

Jody

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Thanks for the tip Laurel. I'll try it out and see if it improves my

conversation technique... I have to say though that I am increasingly

feeling as if my brain has vacated my skull leaving a mish mash of

incoherent thought. In fact each thought is a wisp that drifts away from me

just as I am about to grasp it.... making it hard to concentrate on

anything. I have a deep suspicion that I am hypo currently. I should find

out by the end of the day.

Take care,

Katy.

Re: Just Diagnosed

Katy,

The thing that you are describing, besides being common for so many of us,

is also " normal " in the population but probably not ocuring as frequently as

when we are hormonally challenged. Its called " tip of the tongue " phenomena

(really! that's what the Linguists call it) In theory, its a breakdown of

the speech production process. There is this little trick, known as

priming. What seems to happen is that you try to recall a word and, if you

don't get it, you think about what it sounds like, what it is associated

with and maybe what consonants or vowels it starts with. Think about it

really hard, and then let it go. Within a relatively short period of time

you will probably recall the silly thing.

This is supposed to work because if you think of something, say " dog " your

brain has associated stuff with it. Like bone, dish, walk, poodle and you

will think of these things as well. For most people the association with

how it sounds works better. Probably because of the stage in speech

production that the word is in when the glitch happens.

I know that this doesn't help much if you are trying to carry on a

conversation, especially a serious one. But it can help you to get rid of

that annoyance that comes from not remembering.

Laurel

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Thanks for the tip Laurel. I'll try it out and see if it improves my

conversation technique... I have to say though that I am increasingly

feeling as if my brain has vacated my skull leaving a mish mash of

incoherent thought. In fact each thought is a wisp that drifts away from me

just as I am about to grasp it.... making it hard to concentrate on

anything. I have a deep suspicion that I am hypo currently. I should find

out by the end of the day.

Take care,

Katy.

Re: Just Diagnosed

Katy,

The thing that you are describing, besides being common for so many of us,

is also " normal " in the population but probably not ocuring as frequently as

when we are hormonally challenged. Its called " tip of the tongue " phenomena

(really! that's what the Linguists call it) In theory, its a breakdown of

the speech production process. There is this little trick, known as

priming. What seems to happen is that you try to recall a word and, if you

don't get it, you think about what it sounds like, what it is associated

with and maybe what consonants or vowels it starts with. Think about it

really hard, and then let it go. Within a relatively short period of time

you will probably recall the silly thing.

This is supposed to work because if you think of something, say " dog " your

brain has associated stuff with it. Like bone, dish, walk, poodle and you

will think of these things as well. For most people the association with

how it sounds works better. Probably because of the stage in speech

production that the word is in when the glitch happens.

I know that this doesn't help much if you are trying to carry on a

conversation, especially a serious one. But it can help you to get rid of

that annoyance that comes from not remembering.

Laurel

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Thanks for the tip Laurel. I'll try it out and see if it improves my

conversation technique... I have to say though that I am increasingly

feeling as if my brain has vacated my skull leaving a mish mash of

incoherent thought. In fact each thought is a wisp that drifts away from me

just as I am about to grasp it.... making it hard to concentrate on

anything. I have a deep suspicion that I am hypo currently. I should find

out by the end of the day.

Take care,

Katy.

Re: Just Diagnosed

Katy,

The thing that you are describing, besides being common for so many of us,

is also " normal " in the population but probably not ocuring as frequently as

when we are hormonally challenged. Its called " tip of the tongue " phenomena

(really! that's what the Linguists call it) In theory, its a breakdown of

the speech production process. There is this little trick, known as

priming. What seems to happen is that you try to recall a word and, if you

don't get it, you think about what it sounds like, what it is associated

with and maybe what consonants or vowels it starts with. Think about it

really hard, and then let it go. Within a relatively short period of time

you will probably recall the silly thing.

This is supposed to work because if you think of something, say " dog " your

brain has associated stuff with it. Like bone, dish, walk, poodle and you

will think of these things as well. For most people the association with

how it sounds works better. Probably because of the stage in speech

production that the word is in when the glitch happens.

I know that this doesn't help much if you are trying to carry on a

conversation, especially a serious one. But it can help you to get rid of

that annoyance that comes from not remembering.

Laurel

Just Diagnosed

Hello. I'm new to the group. I'm 33, and was diagnosed about 2 weeks

ago with Graves. I'm now on Tapezole (10mg twice a day) and Nadalol

(20mg twice a day). I also am having some eye problems and will see an

opthamologist about that next week. I'm glad to know that there's a

reason for the crappy way I've been feeling, but I'm still saddened by

the prospect of being on some sort of drug therapy for the rest of my

life.

I'm in school now and right in the middle of midterms, so I'm really

frustrated by all of this. There's never a good time to be sick, but

it's really affecting my schoolwork. I can tell the Tapezole dosage

isn't quite right for me, becuase I'm still hot and irritable and not

sleeping well, but my doctor won't increase the dosage until I've been

on it for a month. Is this the way this usually works?

But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

written exams...

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

Peggy

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Peggy,

I was put on a beta blocker (I think that's what they've got you on with

your TAP even though I'm unfamiliar with the name) at first; I went through

exactly the " dumb things " you're talking about until I went off the stuff. I

tried to drive out of the garage with the door still closed, forgot to pick

up my son, etc. etc. etc. I don't know for sure what caused this, but my

suspicion has always been that for someone like me with low blood pressure

(I'm often 90/60 or 100/70), the beta blockers are just the wrong thing to

take.

Anyway once I got off them, the state I was in changed from what I have

always referred to as Zombie-like, to something approaching normal

awareness. That said, there is, as many others have responded here, some

mental acuity component of this disease--forgetting words seems to be the

most common thread I've seen.

Good luck,

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:29:13 -0000

> To: graves_support

> Subject: Just Diagnosed

>

>

> But I think the thing I'm most worried about at the moment is this:

> I'm doing some really dumb things - forgetting to turn the stove on

> when I'm trying to cook, or going out the front door when I mean to go

> to my bedroom. I'm also noticing a change in my writing - sometimes

> I'm thinking one word, but I write something completely different, or

> spell something entirely wrong when I've never really had problems

> spelling. I don't think this is a result of the Tapezole, but is it

> normal for Graves? I asked my doctor about this and he said confusion

> is common, but I wouldn't really call this confusion. Another

> doctor I talked to said that I might just be having lapses in

> concentration, but that doesn't feel true either. I'm thinking

> clearly, but not always executing what I'm thinking.

> I can only imagine the intersting things I'll come up with on my

> written exams...

> Anyone have any insight?

> Thanks so much!

> Peggy

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