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It's SO annoying, I agree. Unfortunately it's part of being on the net these

days. Years ago only the 'computer nerds' were on here and there was no

commercial

presence, therefore no spam. Now the net has been made available to just about

anyone, email collecting for the purposes of advertising is big business.

I caught an advertiser with an obvious address subscribing to our group the

other day and banned them. However, it doesn't take long for a bit of software

to collect the list of addresses. And without knowing who are the advertisers

(for instance, if they have 'ordinary' emails) it's difficult for - or

us - to do much about it as far as the groups are concerned.

Email addresses are also collected by other methods as email is a completely

open book which can be read by anyone on the thousands of machines which carry

email around the world. So, if you send email anywhere at all, your address

can be picked up and used for sending advertising material.

Personally, I just scan down my list of emails each day and the first thing

I do is delete all the obvious adverts and then read the others.

Chris.

>What does one do with unwanted mail?  I'm

>getting loads of mail daily which is mostly advertising from Notifs,

>Optionreading, etc. etc.  Am so exasperated.

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Before deleting spam, I always report it to

SpamCop (

http://spamcop.net/ ).

They have both a free service and a pay service that's very inexpensive,

and makes spam reporting a little easier (that's what I use). You can

also set it up to filter your incoming email if you wish.

I figure that if everyone reported spam to the " upstream " ISP,

spam wouldn't exist anymore. Once in a while, I'm gratified to see that

an ISP has canceled the email account a spammer.

-- Ron

From: " and Chas Adlard " <cadlard@c...>

Date: Thu Aug 23, 2001 3:14 am

Subject: Re: rheumatic unwanted mail

> It's SO annoying, I agree. Unfortunately it's part of being on

> the net these days. Years ago only the 'computer nerds' were on

> here and there was no commercial presence, therefore no spam.

> Now the net has been made available to just about anyone, email

> collecting for the purposes of advertising is big business.

>

> I caught an advertiser with an obvious address subscribing to

> our group the other day and banned them. However, it doesn't

> take long for a bit of software to collect the list of

> addresses. And without knowing who are the advertisers (for

> instance, if they have 'ordinary' emails) it's difficult for

> - or us - to do much about it as far as the groups are

> concerned.

>

> Email addresses are also collected by other methods as email is

> a completely open book which can be read by anyone on the

> thousands of machines which carry email around the world. So,

if

> you send email anywhere at all, your address can be picked up

> and used for sending advertising material.

>

> Personally, I just scan down my list of emails each day and the

> first thing I do is delete all the obvious adverts and then

read

> the others.

>

> Chris.

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What does one do with unwanted mail? I'm getting loads of mail daily which is mostly advertising from Notifs, Optionreading, etc. etc. Am so exasperated.:(

Loads of best wishes to all

Zanash

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>>> One of the primary rules which makes a piece of mail NOT spam is

> if it gives the receiver a way to unsubscribe. The mail which

> I received from Lenny did do that.

I disagree with this and have checked with others in the computer

business. " Spam " can also be getting repeated messages which you do

not want. The fact that some people said they tried to " unsubscribe "

to the Lenny-mail and these requests were ignored makes the note to

unsubscribe meaningless.

> I have not reread the rules recently, but am NOT aware of

> any rule against writing to users of a list privately. I do this

> regularly on many lists I read.

Writing someone privately is not a problem. Subscribing them to

places they never said they wanted to join is a problem. And then re-

subscribing them after they tried to get off is a problem. Also, the

issue was in doing this en masse, meaning it wasn't just one private

email to one or two particular people. " Harvesting " emails is

strongly against most every group's terms whether it is with

or any place else. Also the emails were not specifically answering

someone's questions or directed at their particular post (he was not

responding to someone's individual post).

.

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