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Well the good news for Phil is no more Oxaliplatin. That means the muscle

aches and chills are gone for now. As seems to be the nausea at least for now.

But the strangest thing happened. Phil broke ouyt with hives towards the end

of the 5FU leucovorin drip. The nurses gave him 25mg of Benadryl which cleared

it up right away but I have Benadryl tablets should they return. he also got

the Avastin once they knew he was o.k.

If anyone knows about this reaction drop me a line.

Otherwise he feels good and for the first time since starting chemo he came

home and was comfortable and able to eat! . He still has a 46 hour pump with

5FU. Hopefully there won't be mouth sores but since using the Biotene that has

not been much of a problem. By the way Biotene has aloe vera but no yucky

aftertaste. No different that way than regular toothpaste.

As always we thank all of you for your prayers.

God Bless

Narice

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In a message dated 8/17/2004 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Flipper759

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> Subj: Re: Phil's update August 17

> Date: 8/17/2004 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From: Flipper759

> To: MONIKAZ@...

>

>

>

> Of course with Stage 4 you always have to be realistic but if this can be

> beaten I think Phil will be one to do it. My guy's amazing.

> Oh BTW the Benadryl brought everything under control and the 5FU is still

> dripping so it looks like Leucovorin is the problem. Anyone else had a problem

> with it. Phil's been on it a little over a year.

> Narice

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Narice,

I had a similar reaction with the Oxi. I left the treatment room to

get sick and when I looked into the mirror I noticed my hands, face

and neck were beet red. I started to have trouble breathing and when

I came out of the bathroom the nurses started to panic. They sat me

down gave me a benadryl and added a drip of something. I calmed

right down and they restarted my drip and it was no problem.

Oncologist said I built up a reaction to the Oxi. From then on I was

treated with atropine and I didn't have anymore reactions.

Jennie

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Narice,

I had a similar reaction with the Oxi. I left the treatment room to

get sick and when I looked into the mirror I noticed my hands, face

and neck were beet red. I started to have trouble breathing and when

I came out of the bathroom the nurses started to panic. They sat me

down gave me a benadryl and added a drip of something. I calmed

right down and they restarted my drip and it was no problem.

Oncologist said I built up a reaction to the Oxi. From then on I was

treated with atropine and I didn't have anymore reactions.

Jennie

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You betcha! Leucavorin, at a very high dose, is what put Bert in the

hospital last October 3/4 of the way through his 5fu/leuc regime with

a severe colon infection and again brought it about towards to end of

that treatment when over Christmas/New Years he had diarrhea so bad

(15 to 20 times a day) that I had to give him shots in the abdomen

three times a day to try and stop it. I don't know if it was the

leucavorin by itself or with the 5fu combo, but it truly did a number

on him...again, pretty much towards the end. In January, when we

switched oncs, he was put back on 5fu/leuc, but leuc at a reduced

dosage...not much, but a little and oxal was added. He tolerated

that real well all the way through a six month treatment.

Yes Narice, your guy will be the one. He's amazing and you can tell

him I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Hugs,

Monika

> In a message dated 8/17/2004 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Flipper759

> writes:

>

> > Subj: Re: Phil's update August 17

> > Date: 8/17/2004 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> > From: Flipper759

> > To: MONIKAZ@n...

> >

> >

> >

> > Of course with Stage 4 you always have to be realistic but if

this can be

> > beaten I think Phil will be one to do it. My guy's amazing.

> > Oh BTW the Benadryl brought everything under control and the 5FU

is still

> > dripping so it looks like Leucovorin is the problem. Anyone else

had a problem

> > with it. Phil's been on it a little over a year.

> > Narice

>

>

>

>

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You betcha! Leucavorin, at a very high dose, is what put Bert in the

hospital last October 3/4 of the way through his 5fu/leuc regime with

a severe colon infection and again brought it about towards to end of

that treatment when over Christmas/New Years he had diarrhea so bad

(15 to 20 times a day) that I had to give him shots in the abdomen

three times a day to try and stop it. I don't know if it was the

leucavorin by itself or with the 5fu combo, but it truly did a number

on him...again, pretty much towards the end. In January, when we

switched oncs, he was put back on 5fu/leuc, but leuc at a reduced

dosage...not much, but a little and oxal was added. He tolerated

that real well all the way through a six month treatment.

Yes Narice, your guy will be the one. He's amazing and you can tell

him I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Hugs,

Monika

> In a message dated 8/17/2004 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Flipper759

> writes:

>

> > Subj: Re: Phil's update August 17

> > Date: 8/17/2004 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> > From: Flipper759

> > To: MONIKAZ@n...

> >

> >

> >

> > Of course with Stage 4 you always have to be realistic but if

this can be

> > beaten I think Phil will be one to do it. My guy's amazing.

> > Oh BTW the Benadryl brought everything under control and the 5FU

is still

> > dripping so it looks like Leucovorin is the problem. Anyone else

had a problem

> > with it. Phil's been on it a little over a year.

> > Narice

>

>

>

>

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Narice,

I sell Aloe vera which is strawberry and kiwi flavored. I use it every day.

Karima

Phil's update August 17

Well the good news for Phil is no more Oxaliplatin. That means the muscle

aches and chills are gone for now. As seems to be the nausea at least for now.

But the strangest thing happened. Phil broke ouyt with hives towards the end

of the 5FU leucovorin drip. The nurses gave him 25mg of Benadryl which cleared

it up right away but I have Benadryl tablets should they return. he also got

the Avastin once they knew he was o.k.

If anyone knows about this reaction drop me a line.

Otherwise he feels good and for the first time since starting chemo he came

home and was comfortable and able to eat! . He still has a 46 hour pump with

5FU. Hopefully there won't be mouth sores but since using the Biotene that has

not been much of a problem. By the way Biotene has aloe vera but no yucky

aftertaste. No different that way than regular toothpaste.

As always we thank all of you for your prayers.

God Bless

Narice

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Thanks but as for stuff like that I prefer it taste like regular toothpaste

or mouthwash. Iremember when they came out with KIDS flavors for toothpaste but

to me even the fruity ones are too sweet tasting. To each his/her own.

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