Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hi Sharon. I'm sure you've seen my posts before. I'm Monika, caregiver to my husband Bert diagnosed July 2003 with stage III colon cancer, which is what brought me to posting on this board. However, a year before my husband's diagnosis, my mom was diagnosed with inoperable stage IIIb lung cancer....a real tough, tough beast to try and slay. In reading your post, I saw myself all over again, so let me pass on a few things to you. When my mom was first diagnosed, she was in full attack mode with a strong spirit and deep faith. Aside from loosing her hair, she really pretty much had smooth sailing through her chemo and radiation treatments, or at least never really let on how much they took their toll, but that's my mom, and actually succeeded in going into clinical remission for almost 8 months...not an easy thing to do with lung cancer. To make a long story short, just when she thought she had licked this bastard, a scan in January 2004 showed that while the original tumor was " dead meat " , five new little ones had appeared in the other lung...short story, it came back. I was with my mom when the news broke but at this point, my husband too had already been diagnosed with colon cancer and was undergoing treatment. The floor dropped out from beneath my feet and I really thought I was going to pass out right there in the doctors office...I mean, how much more. I was able to look at my mom and watched as all hope, fight, and spirit left her face and it was at that point that I rallied and decided if I pass out, it's over. So I held and squeezed her hand, listening all the time to what the oncologist had to say about waiting to see how much it grows and then resume treatment, etc., etc., etc., and we left. On the walk to my car, my mom was very quiet and said very little as well as on the ride home. I didn't prod and didn't talk a lot as I realized this will take time to settle in. Once we got to her house, I made us a cup of tea and we sat down, cried a lot, composed ourselves and decided to talk. We talked about options, we talked about long term survivors of this disease and yes, even in stage IIIb lung cancer there are a few; I recommended a new oncologist because although she liked and trusted her current oncologist, sitting around and waiting to see what would happen just didn't make any sense in my mind. My hubby was being treated at USC/Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center, a great, great place to be, so I suggested to my mom let's go there. On and on the discussions went, yet all the time I reassured her that whatever she decides, hard as it might be for me, I would respect her wishes and abide by them. I also consistently told her that I desperated needed her and to please not give up the fight, but again would understand if she chose to do so. As discussions continued, I realized that what I initially had thought was defeat on my mother's face (and it was) turned into a determination to " kick ass " and for lack of any other words, anger (good emotion) against this disease. Today, I am happy to say, my mom is participating in a clinical trial and the tumors have shrunk quite a bit. There continues to be no evidence of disease elsewhere and again, for the most part, she is tolerating treatment well as it has been customized for her (dosage wise) to make it more tolerable. It has been two years now for her since initial diagnosis and the odds of her being here and doing well were stacked way against her right from the get go. While mom realizes there is no cure for her, there is still some managability with quality of life. Each person makes their own choices and we, if we love and respect them, must honor those choices. Your mom may feel totally defeated right now but if there's a spark of fight left in her, nutur that spark....not in a pushy type of way, and there's a strong possibility that that spark can turn into a real flame. I have shared this story with you as one daughter to another. Please feel free to share it with your mom. I shared stories with my mom all the time (she's not internet savy and doesn't even have a computer....can you believe) and I found that relating other peoples stories, fights, and messages of hope helped her a lot. I hope my story will help you and your mom. Hugs, Monika > The tumor has grown to 6 cm from 5 cm at the end of April; some > additional small spots showed in the right lobe. There is a > suspicious spot in the pancreas and the para-aortic lymph node (I may > have misunderstood this.)and one on the sacrum. Oh, it also showed > gallstones. As soon as Mom heard this, she was ready to give up and > go home. I did not know what to do. That was the loneliest > feeling. What I don't want is to impose my will on Mom, and, yet, I > don't believe she is ready to give up completely. She agreed to talk > to the radiation oncologist, and he told her that nothing on the MRI > changed his opinion about the IMRT, Xeloda and Celebrex treatment he > had proposed. He told her about the most likely side effects > (nausea, diarrhea, and fatigue) and said she could simply quit if she > felt the treatment was too debilitating. > > I don't know if this is the right course of action or not. I read the > posts here and think I will remember how you all have coped with > various things should I need to know to help Mom, but it seems to fly > out of my head at the very moment I need to remember. > > Mom has been having some feeling of a pulling in her right side, > which I thought might be the hernia from her colon surgery, but I got > the impression from the docs that it might be from the tumor. > > Sorry to ramble on. > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hi Sharon. I'm sure you've seen my posts before. I'm Monika, caregiver to my husband Bert diagnosed July 2003 with stage III colon cancer, which is what brought me to posting on this board. However, a year before my husband's diagnosis, my mom was diagnosed with inoperable stage IIIb lung cancer....a real tough, tough beast to try and slay. In reading your post, I saw myself all over again, so let me pass on a few things to you. When my mom was first diagnosed, she was in full attack mode with a strong spirit and deep faith. Aside from loosing her hair, she really pretty much had smooth sailing through her chemo and radiation treatments, or at least never really let on how much they took their toll, but that's my mom, and actually succeeded in going into clinical remission for almost 8 months...not an easy thing to do with lung cancer. To make a long story short, just when she thought she had licked this bastard, a scan in January 2004 showed that while the original tumor was " dead meat " , five new little ones had appeared in the other lung...short story, it came back. I was with my mom when the news broke but at this point, my husband too had already been diagnosed with colon cancer and was undergoing treatment. The floor dropped out from beneath my feet and I really thought I was going to pass out right there in the doctors office...I mean, how much more. I was able to look at my mom and watched as all hope, fight, and spirit left her face and it was at that point that I rallied and decided if I pass out, it's over. So I held and squeezed her hand, listening all the time to what the oncologist had to say about waiting to see how much it grows and then resume treatment, etc., etc., etc., and we left. On the walk to my car, my mom was very quiet and said very little as well as on the ride home. I didn't prod and didn't talk a lot as I realized this will take time to settle in. Once we got to her house, I made us a cup of tea and we sat down, cried a lot, composed ourselves and decided to talk. We talked about options, we talked about long term survivors of this disease and yes, even in stage IIIb lung cancer there are a few; I recommended a new oncologist because although she liked and trusted her current oncologist, sitting around and waiting to see what would happen just didn't make any sense in my mind. My hubby was being treated at USC/Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center, a great, great place to be, so I suggested to my mom let's go there. On and on the discussions went, yet all the time I reassured her that whatever she decides, hard as it might be for me, I would respect her wishes and abide by them. I also consistently told her that I desperated needed her and to please not give up the fight, but again would understand if she chose to do so. As discussions continued, I realized that what I initially had thought was defeat on my mother's face (and it was) turned into a determination to " kick ass " and for lack of any other words, anger (good emotion) against this disease. Today, I am happy to say, my mom is participating in a clinical trial and the tumors have shrunk quite a bit. There continues to be no evidence of disease elsewhere and again, for the most part, she is tolerating treatment well as it has been customized for her (dosage wise) to make it more tolerable. It has been two years now for her since initial diagnosis and the odds of her being here and doing well were stacked way against her right from the get go. While mom realizes there is no cure for her, there is still some managability with quality of life. Each person makes their own choices and we, if we love and respect them, must honor those choices. Your mom may feel totally defeated right now but if there's a spark of fight left in her, nutur that spark....not in a pushy type of way, and there's a strong possibility that that spark can turn into a real flame. I have shared this story with you as one daughter to another. Please feel free to share it with your mom. I shared stories with my mom all the time (she's not internet savy and doesn't even have a computer....can you believe) and I found that relating other peoples stories, fights, and messages of hope helped her a lot. I hope my story will help you and your mom. Hugs, Monika > The tumor has grown to 6 cm from 5 cm at the end of April; some > additional small spots showed in the right lobe. There is a > suspicious spot in the pancreas and the para-aortic lymph node (I may > have misunderstood this.)and one on the sacrum. Oh, it also showed > gallstones. As soon as Mom heard this, she was ready to give up and > go home. I did not know what to do. That was the loneliest > feeling. What I don't want is to impose my will on Mom, and, yet, I > don't believe she is ready to give up completely. She agreed to talk > to the radiation oncologist, and he told her that nothing on the MRI > changed his opinion about the IMRT, Xeloda and Celebrex treatment he > had proposed. He told her about the most likely side effects > (nausea, diarrhea, and fatigue) and said she could simply quit if she > felt the treatment was too debilitating. > > I don't know if this is the right course of action or not. I read the > posts here and think I will remember how you all have coped with > various things should I need to know to help Mom, but it seems to fly > out of my head at the very moment I need to remember. > > Mom has been having some feeling of a pulling in her right side, > which I thought might be the hernia from her colon surgery, but I got > the impression from the docs that it might be from the tumor. > > Sorry to ramble on. > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hi Sharon. I'm sure you've seen my posts before. I'm Monika, caregiver to my husband Bert diagnosed July 2003 with stage III colon cancer, which is what brought me to posting on this board. However, a year before my husband's diagnosis, my mom was diagnosed with inoperable stage IIIb lung cancer....a real tough, tough beast to try and slay. In reading your post, I saw myself all over again, so let me pass on a few things to you. When my mom was first diagnosed, she was in full attack mode with a strong spirit and deep faith. Aside from loosing her hair, she really pretty much had smooth sailing through her chemo and radiation treatments, or at least never really let on how much they took their toll, but that's my mom, and actually succeeded in going into clinical remission for almost 8 months...not an easy thing to do with lung cancer. To make a long story short, just when she thought she had licked this bastard, a scan in January 2004 showed that while the original tumor was " dead meat " , five new little ones had appeared in the other lung...short story, it came back. I was with my mom when the news broke but at this point, my husband too had already been diagnosed with colon cancer and was undergoing treatment. The floor dropped out from beneath my feet and I really thought I was going to pass out right there in the doctors office...I mean, how much more. I was able to look at my mom and watched as all hope, fight, and spirit left her face and it was at that point that I rallied and decided if I pass out, it's over. So I held and squeezed her hand, listening all the time to what the oncologist had to say about waiting to see how much it grows and then resume treatment, etc., etc., etc., and we left. On the walk to my car, my mom was very quiet and said very little as well as on the ride home. I didn't prod and didn't talk a lot as I realized this will take time to settle in. Once we got to her house, I made us a cup of tea and we sat down, cried a lot, composed ourselves and decided to talk. We talked about options, we talked about long term survivors of this disease and yes, even in stage IIIb lung cancer there are a few; I recommended a new oncologist because although she liked and trusted her current oncologist, sitting around and waiting to see what would happen just didn't make any sense in my mind. My hubby was being treated at USC/Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center, a great, great place to be, so I suggested to my mom let's go there. On and on the discussions went, yet all the time I reassured her that whatever she decides, hard as it might be for me, I would respect her wishes and abide by them. I also consistently told her that I desperated needed her and to please not give up the fight, but again would understand if she chose to do so. As discussions continued, I realized that what I initially had thought was defeat on my mother's face (and it was) turned into a determination to " kick ass " and for lack of any other words, anger (good emotion) against this disease. Today, I am happy to say, my mom is participating in a clinical trial and the tumors have shrunk quite a bit. There continues to be no evidence of disease elsewhere and again, for the most part, she is tolerating treatment well as it has been customized for her (dosage wise) to make it more tolerable. It has been two years now for her since initial diagnosis and the odds of her being here and doing well were stacked way against her right from the get go. While mom realizes there is no cure for her, there is still some managability with quality of life. Each person makes their own choices and we, if we love and respect them, must honor those choices. Your mom may feel totally defeated right now but if there's a spark of fight left in her, nutur that spark....not in a pushy type of way, and there's a strong possibility that that spark can turn into a real flame. I have shared this story with you as one daughter to another. Please feel free to share it with your mom. I shared stories with my mom all the time (she's not internet savy and doesn't even have a computer....can you believe) and I found that relating other peoples stories, fights, and messages of hope helped her a lot. I hope my story will help you and your mom. Hugs, Monika > The tumor has grown to 6 cm from 5 cm at the end of April; some > additional small spots showed in the right lobe. There is a > suspicious spot in the pancreas and the para-aortic lymph node (I may > have misunderstood this.)and one on the sacrum. Oh, it also showed > gallstones. As soon as Mom heard this, she was ready to give up and > go home. I did not know what to do. That was the loneliest > feeling. What I don't want is to impose my will on Mom, and, yet, I > don't believe she is ready to give up completely. She agreed to talk > to the radiation oncologist, and he told her that nothing on the MRI > changed his opinion about the IMRT, Xeloda and Celebrex treatment he > had proposed. He told her about the most likely side effects > (nausea, diarrhea, and fatigue) and said she could simply quit if she > felt the treatment was too debilitating. > > I don't know if this is the right course of action or not. I read the > posts here and think I will remember how you all have coped with > various things should I need to know to help Mom, but it seems to fly > out of my head at the very moment I need to remember. > > Mom has been having some feeling of a pulling in her right side, > which I thought might be the hernia from her colon surgery, but I got > the impression from the docs that it might be from the tumor. > > Sorry to ramble on. > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Monika, I have followed your story with interest, hoping and praying for good news for both Bert and your mom. I am trying to keep some fight alive, knowing that I can't have Mom forever but hoping for some quality time. Thank you for caring. Sharon > > The tumor has grown to 6 cm from 5 cm at the end of April; some > > additional small spots showed in the right lobe. There is a > > suspicious spot in the pancreas and the para-aortic lymph node (I > may > > have misunderstood this.)and one on the sacrum. Oh, it also showed > > gallstones. As soon as Mom heard this, she was ready to give up > and > > go home. I did not know what to do. That was the loneliest > > feeling. What I don't want is to impose my will on Mom, and, yet, > I > > don't believe she is ready to give up completely. She agreed to > talk > > to the radiation oncologist, and he told her that nothing on the > MRI > > changed his opinion about the IMRT, Xeloda and Celebrex treatment > he > > had proposed. He told her about the most likely side effects > > (nausea, diarrhea, and fatigue) and said she could simply quit if > she > > felt the treatment was too debilitating. > > > > I don't know if this is the right course of action or not. I read > the > > posts here and think I will remember how you all have coped with > > various things should I need to know to help Mom, but it seems to > fly > > out of my head at the very moment I need to remember. > > > > Mom has been having some feeling of a pulling in her right side, > > which I thought might be the hernia from her colon surgery, but I > got > > the impression from the docs that it might be from the tumor. > > > > Sorry to ramble on. > > > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Monika, I have followed your story with interest, hoping and praying for good news for both Bert and your mom. I am trying to keep some fight alive, knowing that I can't have Mom forever but hoping for some quality time. Thank you for caring. Sharon > > The tumor has grown to 6 cm from 5 cm at the end of April; some > > additional small spots showed in the right lobe. There is a > > suspicious spot in the pancreas and the para-aortic lymph node (I > may > > have misunderstood this.)and one on the sacrum. Oh, it also showed > > gallstones. As soon as Mom heard this, she was ready to give up > and > > go home. I did not know what to do. That was the loneliest > > feeling. What I don't want is to impose my will on Mom, and, yet, > I > > don't believe she is ready to give up completely. She agreed to > talk > > to the radiation oncologist, and he told her that nothing on the > MRI > > changed his opinion about the IMRT, Xeloda and Celebrex treatment > he > > had proposed. He told her about the most likely side effects > > (nausea, diarrhea, and fatigue) and said she could simply quit if > she > > felt the treatment was too debilitating. > > > > I don't know if this is the right course of action or not. I read > the > > posts here and think I will remember how you all have coped with > > various things should I need to know to help Mom, but it seems to > fly > > out of my head at the very moment I need to remember. > > > > Mom has been having some feeling of a pulling in her right side, > > which I thought might be the hernia from her colon surgery, but I > got > > the impression from the docs that it might be from the tumor. > > > > Sorry to ramble on. > > > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Monika, I have followed your story with interest, hoping and praying for good news for both Bert and your mom. I am trying to keep some fight alive, knowing that I can't have Mom forever but hoping for some quality time. Thank you for caring. Sharon > > The tumor has grown to 6 cm from 5 cm at the end of April; some > > additional small spots showed in the right lobe. There is a > > suspicious spot in the pancreas and the para-aortic lymph node (I > may > > have misunderstood this.)and one on the sacrum. Oh, it also showed > > gallstones. As soon as Mom heard this, she was ready to give up > and > > go home. I did not know what to do. That was the loneliest > > feeling. What I don't want is to impose my will on Mom, and, yet, > I > > don't believe she is ready to give up completely. She agreed to > talk > > to the radiation oncologist, and he told her that nothing on the > MRI > > changed his opinion about the IMRT, Xeloda and Celebrex treatment > he > > had proposed. He told her about the most likely side effects > > (nausea, diarrhea, and fatigue) and said she could simply quit if > she > > felt the treatment was too debilitating. > > > > I don't know if this is the right course of action or not. I read > the > > posts here and think I will remember how you all have coped with > > various things should I need to know to help Mom, but it seems to > fly > > out of my head at the very moment I need to remember. > > > > Mom has been having some feeling of a pulling in her right side, > > which I thought might be the hernia from her colon surgery, but I > got > > the impression from the docs that it might be from the tumor. > > > > Sorry to ramble on. > > > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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