Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 hi ...yes sounds familiar..$10,000 for belgium..airfare for two ...$1,000 leaving small business already in the $1000's dont ask....hotel is going to be another 800-1000 and well we are going to amsterdam for two days prior....so hopefully it wont be 20,000 but it is climbing...I still think though at this point in time the decision for me to go was not based solely on the the insurance issue I too am a BCPPO and total ly denied...I felt from the information gathered that this was a vialbe well thought out option and feel lucky to have it.. Im leaving on Friday and cant keep my head from spinning right now..Im very excited Hope all goes weel for your process Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 hi ...yes sounds familiar..$10,000 for belgium..airfare for two ...$1,000 leaving small business already in the $1000's dont ask....hotel is going to be another 800-1000 and well we are going to amsterdam for two days prior....so hopefully it wont be 20,000 but it is climbing...I still think though at this point in time the decision for me to go was not based solely on the the insurance issue I too am a BCPPO and total ly denied...I felt from the information gathered that this was a vialbe well thought out option and feel lucky to have it.. Im leaving on Friday and cant keep my head from spinning right now..Im very excited Hope all goes weel for your process Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I was in the situation you described - denied by insurance 3 times. Degradation was too bad to wait for FDA approval, and even for the 6 - 12 months in " tactics " that some others had used successfully to get the insurance to cave in (in other words this was not a surgery I could put off) Here is what I paid: Dr. Gross - $6000.00 Providence Hospital - $15000.00 Corin (for the device) - $4000.00 Anethesia - $1500.00 I paid these fees up front, Dr. Gross takes 25% less if you do so. The hospital agreed to the $15000 no matter what else was incurred. If I had let the hospital get the Corin device, they would have charged me $13,000.00. Instead, Lee (Dr. Gross's nurse) arranged for me to get in contact with Corin and I paid them directly. We will be using these expenses on our taxes this year. It was a lot, and we had to postpone some of our plans, but it has been well worth it. I am so happy to be able to walk and function like a normal person once more. Martha > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I was in the situation you described - denied by insurance 3 times. Degradation was too bad to wait for FDA approval, and even for the 6 - 12 months in " tactics " that some others had used successfully to get the insurance to cave in (in other words this was not a surgery I could put off) Here is what I paid: Dr. Gross - $6000.00 Providence Hospital - $15000.00 Corin (for the device) - $4000.00 Anethesia - $1500.00 I paid these fees up front, Dr. Gross takes 25% less if you do so. The hospital agreed to the $15000 no matter what else was incurred. If I had let the hospital get the Corin device, they would have charged me $13,000.00. Instead, Lee (Dr. Gross's nurse) arranged for me to get in contact with Corin and I paid them directly. We will be using these expenses on our taxes this year. It was a lot, and we had to postpone some of our plans, but it has been well worth it. I am so happy to be able to walk and function like a normal person once more. Martha > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I was in the situation you described - denied by insurance 3 times. Degradation was too bad to wait for FDA approval, and even for the 6 - 12 months in " tactics " that some others had used successfully to get the insurance to cave in (in other words this was not a surgery I could put off) Here is what I paid: Dr. Gross - $6000.00 Providence Hospital - $15000.00 Corin (for the device) - $4000.00 Anethesia - $1500.00 I paid these fees up front, Dr. Gross takes 25% less if you do so. The hospital agreed to the $15000 no matter what else was incurred. If I had let the hospital get the Corin device, they would have charged me $13,000.00. Instead, Lee (Dr. Gross's nurse) arranged for me to get in contact with Corin and I paid them directly. We will be using these expenses on our taxes this year. It was a lot, and we had to postpone some of our plans, but it has been well worth it. I am so happy to be able to walk and function like a normal person once more. Martha > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hi Michele, Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: consultation with Amstutz 275 hospital 17,700 anesthesia 2000 Dr Amstutz 5000 Bloodwork doctor 1400 trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at $79= $632 staple removal at emergency room 92 Total:$27099. ---------- To: <surfacehippy > Subject: money Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hi Michele, Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: consultation with Amstutz 275 hospital 17,700 anesthesia 2000 Dr Amstutz 5000 Bloodwork doctor 1400 trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at $79= $632 staple removal at emergency room 92 Total:$27099. ---------- To: <surfacehippy > Subject: money Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hi Michele, Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: consultation with Amstutz 275 hospital 17,700 anesthesia 2000 Dr Amstutz 5000 Bloodwork doctor 1400 trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at $79= $632 staple removal at emergency room 92 Total:$27099. ---------- To: <surfacehippy > Subject: money Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 The Joint Replacement Institute at U.C.L.A. (Drs. Amstutz, Schmalzried, and Beaule) quoted me $27,100. That, of course, does not include airfare, etc. I'm glad you asked the question because I also wanted to get a sense of whether that price was typical so am looking forward to the answers. I'm going for a consult w/ Dr. Mont at the center for Joint Preservation and Replacement (Sinai Hospital of Baltimore) on March 11. I wouldn't mind knowing the cost there in advance, just for my rapidly expanding " database " of info on resurfacing (currently, one medium-size shopping bagful). On the basis of some of the postings here, I'm HOPING that they will be more successful than some other places getting my insurance to cover at least some of the cost. (Anything more than a few thousand dollars is more than I can afford to put out, but I know, as others have said, that I'll do whatever I have to to stop the pain and immobility. I won't be able to afford retirement, so I sure hope the surgery makes me feel 10 years younger and stronger.) Kathleen michele wrote: > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 The Joint Replacement Institute at U.C.L.A. (Drs. Amstutz, Schmalzried, and Beaule) quoted me $27,100. That, of course, does not include airfare, etc. I'm glad you asked the question because I also wanted to get a sense of whether that price was typical so am looking forward to the answers. I'm going for a consult w/ Dr. Mont at the center for Joint Preservation and Replacement (Sinai Hospital of Baltimore) on March 11. I wouldn't mind knowing the cost there in advance, just for my rapidly expanding " database " of info on resurfacing (currently, one medium-size shopping bagful). On the basis of some of the postings here, I'm HOPING that they will be more successful than some other places getting my insurance to cover at least some of the cost. (Anything more than a few thousand dollars is more than I can afford to put out, but I know, as others have said, that I'll do whatever I have to to stop the pain and immobility. I won't be able to afford retirement, so I sure hope the surgery makes me feel 10 years younger and stronger.) Kathleen michele wrote: > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 The Joint Replacement Institute at U.C.L.A. (Drs. Amstutz, Schmalzried, and Beaule) quoted me $27,100. That, of course, does not include airfare, etc. I'm glad you asked the question because I also wanted to get a sense of whether that price was typical so am looking forward to the answers. I'm going for a consult w/ Dr. Mont at the center for Joint Preservation and Replacement (Sinai Hospital of Baltimore) on March 11. I wouldn't mind knowing the cost there in advance, just for my rapidly expanding " database " of info on resurfacing (currently, one medium-size shopping bagful). On the basis of some of the postings here, I'm HOPING that they will be more successful than some other places getting my insurance to cover at least some of the cost. (Anything more than a few thousand dollars is more than I can afford to put out, but I know, as others have said, that I'll do whatever I have to to stop the pain and immobility. I won't be able to afford retirement, so I sure hope the surgery makes me feel 10 years younger and stronger.) Kathleen michele wrote: > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 After seeing your post, I forgot to add in the cost of the hotel for my husband for 5 days - Marriott (just across from the hospital) - $69 per night for 5 nights. We drove from TN to SC - it was a 4 hour drive, so no big transportation costs were incurred. Dr. Gross did not charge a consult fee. My bloodwork was all in with the $15K for the hospital. I had dissolving sutures (Dr. Gross does all his out-of-state patients that way), so I didn't have to have staple removal. Maya, did your costs you list include your device? > Hi Michele, > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > consultation with Amstutz 275 > hospital 17,700 > anesthesia 2000 > Dr Amstutz 5000 > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at > $79= $632 > staple removal at emergency room 92 > Total:$27099. > ---------- > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > To: <surfacehippy > > Subject: money > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is > requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 After seeing your post, I forgot to add in the cost of the hotel for my husband for 5 days - Marriott (just across from the hospital) - $69 per night for 5 nights. We drove from TN to SC - it was a 4 hour drive, so no big transportation costs were incurred. Dr. Gross did not charge a consult fee. My bloodwork was all in with the $15K for the hospital. I had dissolving sutures (Dr. Gross does all his out-of-state patients that way), so I didn't have to have staple removal. Maya, did your costs you list include your device? > Hi Michele, > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > consultation with Amstutz 275 > hospital 17,700 > anesthesia 2000 > Dr Amstutz 5000 > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at > $79= $632 > staple removal at emergency room 92 > Total:$27099. > ---------- > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > To: <surfacehippy > > Subject: money > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is > requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hey Kathleen! I just turned 50 in December, and I am walking like I did in my 30s. I thought about it just a day or so ago, how I used to walk quickly, with a spring in my stride. I had limped and dragged myself along for so many years, and now I have it back! I may not look 30, but I sure do feel like it (or at least walk like it!) Martha > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > > Michele > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hey Kathleen! I just turned 50 in December, and I am walking like I did in my 30s. I thought about it just a day or so ago, how I used to walk quickly, with a spring in my stride. I had limped and dragged myself along for so many years, and now I have it back! I may not look 30, but I sure do feel like it (or at least walk like it!) Martha > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > > Michele > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hey Kathleen! I just turned 50 in December, and I am walking like I did in my 30s. I thought about it just a day or so ago, how I used to walk quickly, with a spring in my stride. I had limped and dragged myself along for so many years, and now I have it back! I may not look 30, but I sure do feel like it (or at least walk like it!) Martha > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and thanks. > > Michele > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Michele, thanks for asking your question. I read all the replies before coming back to respond. Just yesterday, I looked on the net for info about costs for THR. I found very little 'hard' information, apparently because with the government, insurance companies, hopsitals and probably others there are so many shenanigans utilized to maximize income when there are so many expenses going up and up and up. And I'm not claiming 'foul'! I'm just saying if you are in the business, keeping your head above water gets harder everyday. Anyway, I'm beginning to arm myself for the possible debate over Belgium, out of pocket, and actual costs to any third party payers, and even myself--first party payer. From what little I've been able to glean, Belgium seems to be at least as cost effective as any alternative out there, even in-country THR, notwithstanding the probable benefits the BHR seems to have in it's favor. So, I'm asking for help finding solid information on costs for the various options a hip challenged patient might choose, especially if insurance coverage cannot be relied upon. I've begun to feel an urgent need to get the job done, and damn the torpedos (or some such paraphrase<G>). Actually, I've always felt the need to take care of it early, it's just all the flack you run into looking at THR before total decrepitude. Only now, the eminently sensible seeming Hip Resurfacing has come along and changed the calculus. Hooray! danz michele wrote: > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it > is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a > resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet > resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. > - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving > one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' > hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high > estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and > thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Michele, thanks for asking your question. I read all the replies before coming back to respond. Just yesterday, I looked on the net for info about costs for THR. I found very little 'hard' information, apparently because with the government, insurance companies, hopsitals and probably others there are so many shenanigans utilized to maximize income when there are so many expenses going up and up and up. And I'm not claiming 'foul'! I'm just saying if you are in the business, keeping your head above water gets harder everyday. Anyway, I'm beginning to arm myself for the possible debate over Belgium, out of pocket, and actual costs to any third party payers, and even myself--first party payer. From what little I've been able to glean, Belgium seems to be at least as cost effective as any alternative out there, even in-country THR, notwithstanding the probable benefits the BHR seems to have in it's favor. So, I'm asking for help finding solid information on costs for the various options a hip challenged patient might choose, especially if insurance coverage cannot be relied upon. I've begun to feel an urgent need to get the job done, and damn the torpedos (or some such paraphrase<G>). Actually, I've always felt the need to take care of it early, it's just all the flack you run into looking at THR before total decrepitude. Only now, the eminently sensible seeming Hip Resurfacing has come along and changed the calculus. Hooray! danz michele wrote: > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it > is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a > resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet > resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. > - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving > one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' > hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high > estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and > thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Michele, thanks for asking your question. I read all the replies before coming back to respond. Just yesterday, I looked on the net for info about costs for THR. I found very little 'hard' information, apparently because with the government, insurance companies, hopsitals and probably others there are so many shenanigans utilized to maximize income when there are so many expenses going up and up and up. And I'm not claiming 'foul'! I'm just saying if you are in the business, keeping your head above water gets harder everyday. Anyway, I'm beginning to arm myself for the possible debate over Belgium, out of pocket, and actual costs to any third party payers, and even myself--first party payer. From what little I've been able to glean, Belgium seems to be at least as cost effective as any alternative out there, even in-country THR, notwithstanding the probable benefits the BHR seems to have in it's favor. So, I'm asking for help finding solid information on costs for the various options a hip challenged patient might choose, especially if insurance coverage cannot be relied upon. I've begun to feel an urgent need to get the job done, and damn the torpedos (or some such paraphrase<G>). Actually, I've always felt the need to take care of it early, it's just all the flack you run into looking at THR before total decrepitude. Only now, the eminently sensible seeming Hip Resurfacing has come along and changed the calculus. Hooray! danz michele wrote: > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it > is not looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a > resurf in the US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet > resuf - was it $10,000 + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. > - which for two people (plus figuring out expenses incurred by leaving > one's children at home and leaving one's small business in others' > hands...) would come in at under $20,000? Is that a reasonable high > estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is requested. Please and > thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hi Martha, Yes the hospital costs included the cost of the device. It was not separate. Maya ps. My husband got to stay for free at the hospital. ---------- " To: surfacehippy Subject: Re: money Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 9:46 AM After seeing your post, I forgot to add in the cost of the hotel for my husband for 5 days - Marriott (just across from the hospital) - $69 per night for 5 nights. We drove from TN to SC - it was a 4 hour drive, so no big transportation costs were incurred. Dr. Gross did not charge a consult fee. My bloodwork was all in with the $15K for the hospital. I had dissolving sutures (Dr. Gross does all his out-of-state patients that way), so I didn't have to have staple removal. Maya, did your costs you list include your device? > Hi Michele, > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > consultation with Amstutz 275 > hospital 17,700 > anesthesia 2000 > Dr Amstutz 5000 > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at > $79= $632 > staple removal at emergency room 92 > Total:$27099. > ---------- > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > To: <surfacehippy > > Subject: money > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is > requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hi Martha, Yes the hospital costs included the cost of the device. It was not separate. Maya ps. My husband got to stay for free at the hospital. ---------- " To: surfacehippy Subject: Re: money Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 9:46 AM After seeing your post, I forgot to add in the cost of the hotel for my husband for 5 days - Marriott (just across from the hospital) - $69 per night for 5 nights. We drove from TN to SC - it was a 4 hour drive, so no big transportation costs were incurred. Dr. Gross did not charge a consult fee. My bloodwork was all in with the $15K for the hospital. I had dissolving sutures (Dr. Gross does all his out-of-state patients that way), so I didn't have to have staple removal. Maya, did your costs you list include your device? > Hi Michele, > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > consultation with Amstutz 275 > hospital 17,700 > anesthesia 2000 > Dr Amstutz 5000 > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at > $79= $632 > staple removal at emergency room 92 > Total:$27099. > ---------- > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > To: <surfacehippy > > Subject: money > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is > requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hi Martha, Yes the hospital costs included the cost of the device. It was not separate. Maya ps. My husband got to stay for free at the hospital. ---------- " To: surfacehippy Subject: Re: money Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 9:46 AM After seeing your post, I forgot to add in the cost of the hotel for my husband for 5 days - Marriott (just across from the hospital) - $69 per night for 5 nights. We drove from TN to SC - it was a 4 hour drive, so no big transportation costs were incurred. Dr. Gross did not charge a consult fee. My bloodwork was all in with the $15K for the hospital. I had dissolving sutures (Dr. Gross does all his out-of-state patients that way), so I didn't have to have staple removal. Maya, did your costs you list include your device? > Hi Michele, > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > consultation with Amstutz 275 > hospital 17,700 > anesthesia 2000 > Dr Amstutz 5000 > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 trips at > $79= $632 > staple removal at emergency room 92 > Total:$27099. > ---------- > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > To: <surfacehippy > > Subject: money > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies (I > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as it is not > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a resurf in the > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it $10,000 > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two people (plus > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home and leaving > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under $20,000? > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All input is > requested. Please and thanks. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hi Maya, Thanks for the response. My husband had a reclining chair by my bedside also, but with the nurses checking in every 30 minutes to 1 hour all night long, he wouldn't have gotten much sleep. Besides, he had just had a stint put in one of his heart vessels the week before my hip surgery and he wasn't feeling all that strong. It was a bad time for both of us, but we are glad we pulled through! Martha > > Hi Michele, > > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > > consultation with Amstutz 275 > > hospital 17,700 > > anesthesia 2000 > > Dr Amstutz 5000 > > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 > trips at > > $79= $632 > > staple removal at emergency room 92 > > Total:$27099. > > ---------- > > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > > To: <surfacehippy > > > Subject: money > > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies > (I > > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as > it is not > > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a > resurf in the > > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it > $10,000 > > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two > people (plus > > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home > and leaving > > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under > $20,000? > > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All > input is > > requested. Please and thanks. > > Michele > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hi Maya, Thanks for the response. My husband had a reclining chair by my bedside also, but with the nurses checking in every 30 minutes to 1 hour all night long, he wouldn't have gotten much sleep. Besides, he had just had a stint put in one of his heart vessels the week before my hip surgery and he wasn't feeling all that strong. It was a bad time for both of us, but we are glad we pulled through! Martha > > Hi Michele, > > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > > consultation with Amstutz 275 > > hospital 17,700 > > anesthesia 2000 > > Dr Amstutz 5000 > > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 > trips at > > $79= $632 > > staple removal at emergency room 92 > > Total:$27099. > > ---------- > > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > > To: <surfacehippy > > > Subject: money > > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies > (I > > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as > it is not > > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a > resurf in the > > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it > $10,000 > > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two > people (plus > > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home > and leaving > > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under > $20,000? > > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All > input is > > requested. Please and thanks. > > Michele > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hi Maya, Thanks for the response. My husband had a reclining chair by my bedside also, but with the nurses checking in every 30 minutes to 1 hour all night long, he wouldn't have gotten much sleep. Besides, he had just had a stint put in one of his heart vessels the week before my hip surgery and he wasn't feeling all that strong. It was a bad time for both of us, but we are glad we pulled through! Martha > > Hi Michele, > > Here's what I paid out of pocket for one hip at JRI last July: > > consultation with Amstutz 275 > > hospital 17,700 > > anesthesia 2000 > > Dr Amstutz 5000 > > Bloodwork doctor 1400 > > trips to hospital after I got home for coumadin bloodwork tests: 8 > trips at > > $79= $632 > > staple removal at emergency room 92 > > Total:$27099. > > ---------- > > From: " michele " <michele@f...> > > To: <surfacehippy > > > Subject: money > > Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2003, 8:24 AM > > > > > > So when you've exhausted all your appeals with insurance companies > (I > > haven't yet, but I'm trying to be proactively forward thinking as > it is not > > looking good), just what have people paid out of pocket for a > resurf in the > > US? I think I've seen the figures for a Koen DeSmet resuf - was it > $10,000 > > + 2500 + airfare, hotels, transportation, etc. - which for two > people (plus > > figuring out expenses incurred by leaving one's children at home > and leaving > > one's small business in others' hands...) would come in at under > $20,000? > > Is that a reasonable high estimate? Compared to ???????? All > input is > > requested. Please and thanks. > > Michele > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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