Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 That's going to be the next thing. Hiring animals to do patient care. It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 That's going to be the next thing. Hiring animals to do patient care. It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 What is wrong with this picture? Guess it was fortunate that the attendant wasn't in the back wih the patient; they might have been killrd. But WHY was the patient in the back by themselves. lnmolino@... wrote: ... " A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. .... " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. " The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. " The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him. " - GK Chesterton --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 What is wrong with this picture? Guess it was fortunate that the attendant wasn't in the back wih the patient; they might have been killrd. But WHY was the patient in the back by themselves. lnmolino@... wrote: ... " A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. .... " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. " The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. " The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him. " - GK Chesterton --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Is it just me, or should there be more to this story? Why was there no mention of a " medic " in the back being uninjured? If there was a " patient " , why no " medic " ? Keir Scrivener Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) Ambulance gets unwanted rider Wednesday, February 08, 2006 By KEVIN SHEA Staff Writer PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- In his nearly 14 years as animal control officer here and in neighboring Princeton Borough, Mark has seen deer wind up in many an odd place, from school buildings to the busy downtown borough streets. And many a time he has arrived at collisions between deer and motor vehicles. But notched another first yesterday: A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. " Car-wise, I've never seen that before, " said. " It was definitely a weird scene. " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. The deer later died of his injuries, said. He estimated the adult buck weighed about 135 pounds. Else and were driving the patient, who officials said was a priest, back to the St. Lawrence Rehabilitation Center in Lawrence after an appointment at the University Medical Center at Princeton. The ambulance was heading south on Lawrenceville Road when the deer crashed into the windshield. Buchanan said the ambulance was driving at normal, nonemergency speed. was first to arrive at the scene. " I don't know how the driver survived, " said. " She was one lucky gal. There were hoofprints in the roof above her. (The deer) definitely flailed around in there. " said his main concern when he arrived was protecting the oxygen tanks in the ambulance from the deer. So he tranquilized the animal and waited for police and other ambulances to arrive. The patient, said, had already been removed from the back of the ambulance, apparently by Else and , and was on a stretcher. Buchanan said one ambulance returned the man to St. Lawrence and another took Else and to Capital Health System at Fuld hospital in Trenton. A hospital spokesman said the two were treated in the emergency room and released in the afternoon. said it appears the deer may have been leaping when struck, since the ambulance had no front-end damage, just the hole in the windshield. " It probably tried to jump the road, " he said. and a police officer later pulled the unconscious animal from the rear of the ambulance, and loaded it onto his animal control truck. It later died from its injuries, he said. Able Ambulance officials did not elaborate on the incident yesterday, only expressing relief that no one was seriously injured in the collision. Partly because of such accidents, the township has contracted with a Connecticut firm since 2000-2001 to thin its deer population through a combination of lethal sharpshooting and birth control. The firm, White Buffalo, has culled 1,300 deer and has administered experimental birth-control medications to at least 110 others. -- -- -- Contact Shea at kshea@... or at (609) 989-5699. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. " Eleanor Roosevelt The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Is it just me, or should there be more to this story? Why was there no mention of a " medic " in the back being uninjured? If there was a " patient " , why no " medic " ? Keir Scrivener Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) Ambulance gets unwanted rider Wednesday, February 08, 2006 By KEVIN SHEA Staff Writer PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- In his nearly 14 years as animal control officer here and in neighboring Princeton Borough, Mark has seen deer wind up in many an odd place, from school buildings to the busy downtown borough streets. And many a time he has arrived at collisions between deer and motor vehicles. But notched another first yesterday: A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. " Car-wise, I've never seen that before, " said. " It was definitely a weird scene. " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. The deer later died of his injuries, said. He estimated the adult buck weighed about 135 pounds. Else and were driving the patient, who officials said was a priest, back to the St. Lawrence Rehabilitation Center in Lawrence after an appointment at the University Medical Center at Princeton. The ambulance was heading south on Lawrenceville Road when the deer crashed into the windshield. Buchanan said the ambulance was driving at normal, nonemergency speed. was first to arrive at the scene. " I don't know how the driver survived, " said. " She was one lucky gal. There were hoofprints in the roof above her. (The deer) definitely flailed around in there. " said his main concern when he arrived was protecting the oxygen tanks in the ambulance from the deer. So he tranquilized the animal and waited for police and other ambulances to arrive. The patient, said, had already been removed from the back of the ambulance, apparently by Else and , and was on a stretcher. Buchanan said one ambulance returned the man to St. Lawrence and another took Else and to Capital Health System at Fuld hospital in Trenton. A hospital spokesman said the two were treated in the emergency room and released in the afternoon. said it appears the deer may have been leaping when struck, since the ambulance had no front-end damage, just the hole in the windshield. " It probably tried to jump the road, " he said. and a police officer later pulled the unconscious animal from the rear of the ambulance, and loaded it onto his animal control truck. It later died from its injuries, he said. Able Ambulance officials did not elaborate on the incident yesterday, only expressing relief that no one was seriously injured in the collision. Partly because of such accidents, the township has contracted with a Connecticut firm since 2000-2001 to thin its deer population through a combination of lethal sharpshooting and birth control. The firm, White Buffalo, has culled 1,300 deer and has administered experimental birth-control medications to at least 110 others. -- -- -- Contact Shea at kshea@... or at (609) 989-5699. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. " Eleanor Roosevelt The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Is it just me, or should there be more to this story? Why was there no mention of a " medic " in the back being uninjured? If there was a " patient " , why no " medic " ? Keir Scrivener Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) Ambulance gets unwanted rider Wednesday, February 08, 2006 By KEVIN SHEA Staff Writer PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- In his nearly 14 years as animal control officer here and in neighboring Princeton Borough, Mark has seen deer wind up in many an odd place, from school buildings to the busy downtown borough streets. And many a time he has arrived at collisions between deer and motor vehicles. But notched another first yesterday: A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. " Car-wise, I've never seen that before, " said. " It was definitely a weird scene. " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. The deer later died of his injuries, said. He estimated the adult buck weighed about 135 pounds. Else and were driving the patient, who officials said was a priest, back to the St. Lawrence Rehabilitation Center in Lawrence after an appointment at the University Medical Center at Princeton. The ambulance was heading south on Lawrenceville Road when the deer crashed into the windshield. Buchanan said the ambulance was driving at normal, nonemergency speed. was first to arrive at the scene. " I don't know how the driver survived, " said. " She was one lucky gal. There were hoofprints in the roof above her. (The deer) definitely flailed around in there. " said his main concern when he arrived was protecting the oxygen tanks in the ambulance from the deer. So he tranquilized the animal and waited for police and other ambulances to arrive. The patient, said, had already been removed from the back of the ambulance, apparently by Else and , and was on a stretcher. Buchanan said one ambulance returned the man to St. Lawrence and another took Else and to Capital Health System at Fuld hospital in Trenton. A hospital spokesman said the two were treated in the emergency room and released in the afternoon. said it appears the deer may have been leaping when struck, since the ambulance had no front-end damage, just the hole in the windshield. " It probably tried to jump the road, " he said. and a police officer later pulled the unconscious animal from the rear of the ambulance, and loaded it onto his animal control truck. It later died from its injuries, he said. Able Ambulance officials did not elaborate on the incident yesterday, only expressing relief that no one was seriously injured in the collision. Partly because of such accidents, the township has contracted with a Connecticut firm since 2000-2001 to thin its deer population through a combination of lethal sharpshooting and birth control. The firm, White Buffalo, has culled 1,300 deer and has administered experimental birth-control medications to at least 110 others. -- -- -- Contact Shea at kshea@... or at (609) 989-5699. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. " Eleanor Roosevelt The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 So why were the two attendants up front? I guess somebody or something had to keep an eye on the patient!!! Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) Ambulance gets unwanted rider Wednesday, February 08, 2006 By KEVIN SHEA Staff Writer PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- In his nearly 14 years as animal control officer here and in neighboring Princeton Borough, Mark has seen deer wind up in many an odd place, from school buildings to the busy downtown borough streets. And many a time he has arrived at collisions between deer and motor vehicles. But notched another first yesterday: A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. " Car-wise, I've never seen that before, " said. " It was definitely a weird scene. " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. The deer later died of his injuries, said. He estimated the adult buck weighed about 135 pounds. Else and were driving the patient, who officials said was a priest, back to the St. Lawrence Rehabilitation Center in Lawrence after an appointment at the University Medical Center at Princeton. The ambulance was heading south on Lawrenceville Road when the deer crashed into the windshield. Buchanan said the ambulance was driving at normal, nonemergency speed. was first to arrive at the scene. " I don't know how the driver survived, " said. " She was one lucky gal. There were hoofprints in the roof above her. (The deer) definitely flailed around in there. " said his main concern when he arrived was protecting the oxygen tanks in the ambulance from the deer. So he tranquilized the animal and waited for police and other ambulances to arrive. The patient, said, had already been removed from the back of the ambulance, apparently by Else and , and was on a stretcher. Buchanan said one ambulance returned the man to St. Lawrence and another took Else and to Capital Health System at Fuld hospital in Trenton. A hospital spokesman said the two were treated in the emergency room and released in the afternoon. said it appears the deer may have been leaping when struck, since the ambulance had no front-end damage, just the hole in the windshield. " It probably tried to jump the road, " he said. and a police officer later pulled the unconscious animal from the rear of the ambulance, and loaded it onto his animal control truck. It later died from its injuries, he said. Able Ambulance officials did not elaborate on the incident yesterday, only expressing relief that no one was seriously injured in the collision. Partly because of such accidents, the township has contracted with a Connecticut firm since 2000-2001 to thin its deer population through a combination of lethal sharpshooting and birth control. The firm, White Buffalo, has culled 1,300 deer and has administered experimental birth-control medications to at least 110 others. -- -- -- Contact Shea at kshea@... or at (609) 989-5699. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. " Eleanor Roosevelt The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 So why were the two attendants up front? I guess somebody or something had to keep an eye on the patient!!! Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) Ambulance gets unwanted rider Wednesday, February 08, 2006 By KEVIN SHEA Staff Writer PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- In his nearly 14 years as animal control officer here and in neighboring Princeton Borough, Mark has seen deer wind up in many an odd place, from school buildings to the busy downtown borough streets. And many a time he has arrived at collisions between deer and motor vehicles. But notched another first yesterday: A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. " Car-wise, I've never seen that before, " said. " It was definitely a weird scene. " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. The deer later died of his injuries, said. He estimated the adult buck weighed about 135 pounds. Else and were driving the patient, who officials said was a priest, back to the St. Lawrence Rehabilitation Center in Lawrence after an appointment at the University Medical Center at Princeton. The ambulance was heading south on Lawrenceville Road when the deer crashed into the windshield. Buchanan said the ambulance was driving at normal, nonemergency speed. was first to arrive at the scene. " I don't know how the driver survived, " said. " She was one lucky gal. There were hoofprints in the roof above her. (The deer) definitely flailed around in there. " said his main concern when he arrived was protecting the oxygen tanks in the ambulance from the deer. So he tranquilized the animal and waited for police and other ambulances to arrive. The patient, said, had already been removed from the back of the ambulance, apparently by Else and , and was on a stretcher. Buchanan said one ambulance returned the man to St. Lawrence and another took Else and to Capital Health System at Fuld hospital in Trenton. A hospital spokesman said the two were treated in the emergency room and released in the afternoon. said it appears the deer may have been leaping when struck, since the ambulance had no front-end damage, just the hole in the windshield. " It probably tried to jump the road, " he said. and a police officer later pulled the unconscious animal from the rear of the ambulance, and loaded it onto his animal control truck. It later died from its injuries, he said. Able Ambulance officials did not elaborate on the incident yesterday, only expressing relief that no one was seriously injured in the collision. Partly because of such accidents, the township has contracted with a Connecticut firm since 2000-2001 to thin its deer population through a combination of lethal sharpshooting and birth control. The firm, White Buffalo, has culled 1,300 deer and has administered experimental birth-control medications to at least 110 others. -- -- -- Contact Shea at kshea@... or at (609) 989-5699. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. " Eleanor Roosevelt The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 So why were the two attendants up front? I guess somebody or something had to keep an eye on the patient!!! Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) Ambulance gets unwanted rider Wednesday, February 08, 2006 By KEVIN SHEA Staff Writer PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- In his nearly 14 years as animal control officer here and in neighboring Princeton Borough, Mark has seen deer wind up in many an odd place, from school buildings to the busy downtown borough streets. And many a time he has arrived at collisions between deer and motor vehicles. But notched another first yesterday: A deer struck by an ambulance sailing clear through the windshield, landing in the back next to a patient. " Car-wise, I've never seen that before, " said. " It was definitely a weird scene. " The crash occurred just before 11 a.m. and caused only minor injuries to Able Ambulance employees Constance Else, 39, who was driving, and Keyona , 28, who also was sitting up front. The patient, who was not identified, was uninjured during the incident, even though the thrashing animal landed near him, said police Lt. Buchanan. The deer later died of his injuries, said. He estimated the adult buck weighed about 135 pounds. Else and were driving the patient, who officials said was a priest, back to the St. Lawrence Rehabilitation Center in Lawrence after an appointment at the University Medical Center at Princeton. The ambulance was heading south on Lawrenceville Road when the deer crashed into the windshield. Buchanan said the ambulance was driving at normal, nonemergency speed. was first to arrive at the scene. " I don't know how the driver survived, " said. " She was one lucky gal. There were hoofprints in the roof above her. (The deer) definitely flailed around in there. " said his main concern when he arrived was protecting the oxygen tanks in the ambulance from the deer. So he tranquilized the animal and waited for police and other ambulances to arrive. The patient, said, had already been removed from the back of the ambulance, apparently by Else and , and was on a stretcher. Buchanan said one ambulance returned the man to St. Lawrence and another took Else and to Capital Health System at Fuld hospital in Trenton. A hospital spokesman said the two were treated in the emergency room and released in the afternoon. said it appears the deer may have been leaping when struck, since the ambulance had no front-end damage, just the hole in the windshield. " It probably tried to jump the road, " he said. and a police officer later pulled the unconscious animal from the rear of the ambulance, and loaded it onto his animal control truck. It later died from its injuries, he said. Able Ambulance officials did not elaborate on the incident yesterday, only expressing relief that no one was seriously injured in the collision. Partly because of such accidents, the township has contracted with a Connecticut firm since 2000-2001 to thin its deer population through a combination of lethal sharpshooting and birth control. The firm, White Buffalo, has culled 1,300 deer and has administered experimental birth-control medications to at least 110 others. -- -- -- Contact Shea at kshea@... or at (609) 989-5699. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. " Eleanor Roosevelt The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 We had a deer run into the diamond plate around our left-rear wheel well once, while we were returning to our station from Hill Country Memorial in Fredericksburg. A herd of 6 of them ran out between us the car ahead of us. Our driver, Art, managed to miss five that ran ahead of us, but this one decided to make a right turn on the double yellow line, and hit the side of the rig. No damage to us, but " Bucky " walked around like he'd been pole-axed after he got up again. Barry E. McClung, EMT-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 We had a deer run into the diamond plate around our left-rear wheel well once, while we were returning to our station from Hill Country Memorial in Fredericksburg. A herd of 6 of them ran out between us the car ahead of us. Our driver, Art, managed to miss five that ran ahead of us, but this one decided to make a right turn on the double yellow line, and hit the side of the rig. No damage to us, but " Bucky " walked around like he'd been pole-axed after he got up again. Barry E. McClung, EMT-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 We had a deer run into the diamond plate around our left-rear wheel well once, while we were returning to our station from Hill Country Memorial in Fredericksburg. A herd of 6 of them ran out between us the car ahead of us. Our driver, Art, managed to miss five that ran ahead of us, but this one decided to make a right turn on the double yellow line, and hit the side of the rig. No damage to us, but " Bucky " walked around like he'd been pole-axed after he got up again. Barry E. McClung, EMT-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 There was that study a few years back where the Simians did not do so well. STUDY TERMINATED EARLY DUE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY CONCERNS Feb 20, 2004, 15:46 San , TX - A novel study designed to test the possibility of using chimpanzees as ambulance attendants has been prematurely halted because of animal safety concerns brought to light by the watchdog group PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). Researchers at the Southwestern Primate Center in San and the University of New Mexico School of Medicine in Albuquerque began the innovative study two years ago. Four western chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes verus) who had mastered sign language were taught an abbreviated first aid course and assigned to work on ambulances in New Mexico. The primates were paired with a human Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) who was skilled in sign language. The chimpanzees reportedly mastered basic first aid skills such as bandaging, splinting, oxygen administration, CPR, and learned to use a life-saving device known as an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) used to start the hearts of heart attack victims. The first three weeks of the study went well. However, as the study progressed, the chimps began to show signs of stress. At the scene of an accident, one chimp inadvertently bandaged a tree. On another accident scene, the ambulance chimp fled the scene with the EMT's lunch. As the study progressed, the behavior of the chimps became more bizarre. While attending an elderly victim of a stroke, one chimp said to the victim in sign language, " My panties are in need of oranges. " On another call, one chimp began to massage his genitals while howling like an ambulance siren. PETA had primate zoologists evaluate the animals and determined their workloads caused the decline in functioning. This was attributed to a process used by ambulance services called System Status Management (SSM) where ambulance drivers remain in their ambulances for extended periods of time without a break. Also, some of the chimps were given only a limited amount of oranges and bananas. Following termination of the experiment, one of the chimps was returned to the primate center, two were assigned to the ambulance dispatch office, and one was promoted to management. ________________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) That's going to be the next thing. Â Hiring animals to do patient care. Â It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 There was that study a few years back where the Simians did not do so well. STUDY TERMINATED EARLY DUE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY CONCERNS Feb 20, 2004, 15:46 San , TX - A novel study designed to test the possibility of using chimpanzees as ambulance attendants has been prematurely halted because of animal safety concerns brought to light by the watchdog group PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). Researchers at the Southwestern Primate Center in San and the University of New Mexico School of Medicine in Albuquerque began the innovative study two years ago. Four western chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes verus) who had mastered sign language were taught an abbreviated first aid course and assigned to work on ambulances in New Mexico. The primates were paired with a human Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) who was skilled in sign language. The chimpanzees reportedly mastered basic first aid skills such as bandaging, splinting, oxygen administration, CPR, and learned to use a life-saving device known as an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) used to start the hearts of heart attack victims. The first three weeks of the study went well. However, as the study progressed, the chimps began to show signs of stress. At the scene of an accident, one chimp inadvertently bandaged a tree. On another accident scene, the ambulance chimp fled the scene with the EMT's lunch. As the study progressed, the behavior of the chimps became more bizarre. While attending an elderly victim of a stroke, one chimp said to the victim in sign language, " My panties are in need of oranges. " On another call, one chimp began to massage his genitals while howling like an ambulance siren. PETA had primate zoologists evaluate the animals and determined their workloads caused the decline in functioning. This was attributed to a process used by ambulance services called System Status Management (SSM) where ambulance drivers remain in their ambulances for extended periods of time without a break. Also, some of the chimps were given only a limited amount of oranges and bananas. Following termination of the experiment, one of the chimps was returned to the primate center, two were assigned to the ambulance dispatch office, and one was promoted to management. ________________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) That's going to be the next thing. Â Hiring animals to do patient care. Â It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 How true " Bledsoe, DO " wrote: There was that study a few years back where the Simians did not do so well. STUDY TERMINATED EARLY DUE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY CONCERNS Feb 20, 2004, 15:46 San , TX - A novel study designed to test the possibility of using chimpanzees as ambulance attendants has been prematurely halted because of animal safety concerns brought to light by the watchdog group PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). Researchers at the Southwestern Primate Center in San and the University of New Mexico School of Medicine in Albuquerque began the innovative study two years ago. Four western chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes verus) who had mastered sign language were taught an abbreviated first aid course and assigned to work on ambulances in New Mexico. The primates were paired with a human Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) who was skilled in sign language. The chimpanzees reportedly mastered basic first aid skills such as bandaging, splinting, oxygen administration, CPR, and learned to use a life-saving device known as an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) used to start the hearts of heart attack victims. The first three weeks of the study went well. However, as the study progressed, the chimps began to show signs of stress. At the scene of an accident, one chimp inadvertently bandaged a tree. On another accident scene, the ambulance chimp fled the scene with the EMT's lunch. As the study progressed, the behavior of the chimps became more bizarre. While attending an elderly victim of a stroke, one chimp said to the victim in sign language, " My panties are in need of oranges. " On another call, one chimp began to massage his genitals while howling like an ambulance siren. PETA had primate zoologists evaluate the animals and determined their workloads caused the decline in functioning. This was attributed to a process used by ambulance services called System Status Management (SSM) where ambulance drivers remain in their ambulances for extended periods of time without a break. Also, some of the chimps were given only a limited amount of oranges and bananas. Following termination of the experiment, one of the chimps was returned to the primate center, two were assigned to the ambulance dispatch office, and one was promoted to management. ________________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) That's going to be the next thing. Hiring animals to do patient care. It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 How true " Bledsoe, DO " wrote: There was that study a few years back where the Simians did not do so well. STUDY TERMINATED EARLY DUE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY CONCERNS Feb 20, 2004, 15:46 San , TX - A novel study designed to test the possibility of using chimpanzees as ambulance attendants has been prematurely halted because of animal safety concerns brought to light by the watchdog group PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). Researchers at the Southwestern Primate Center in San and the University of New Mexico School of Medicine in Albuquerque began the innovative study two years ago. Four western chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes verus) who had mastered sign language were taught an abbreviated first aid course and assigned to work on ambulances in New Mexico. The primates were paired with a human Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) who was skilled in sign language. The chimpanzees reportedly mastered basic first aid skills such as bandaging, splinting, oxygen administration, CPR, and learned to use a life-saving device known as an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) used to start the hearts of heart attack victims. The first three weeks of the study went well. However, as the study progressed, the chimps began to show signs of stress. At the scene of an accident, one chimp inadvertently bandaged a tree. On another accident scene, the ambulance chimp fled the scene with the EMT's lunch. As the study progressed, the behavior of the chimps became more bizarre. While attending an elderly victim of a stroke, one chimp said to the victim in sign language, " My panties are in need of oranges. " On another call, one chimp began to massage his genitals while howling like an ambulance siren. PETA had primate zoologists evaluate the animals and determined their workloads caused the decline in functioning. This was attributed to a process used by ambulance services called System Status Management (SSM) where ambulance drivers remain in their ambulances for extended periods of time without a break. Also, some of the chimps were given only a limited amount of oranges and bananas. Following termination of the experiment, one of the chimps was returned to the primate center, two were assigned to the ambulance dispatch office, and one was promoted to management. ________________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) That's going to be the next thing. Hiring animals to do patient care. It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 How true " Bledsoe, DO " wrote: There was that study a few years back where the Simians did not do so well. STUDY TERMINATED EARLY DUE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY CONCERNS Feb 20, 2004, 15:46 San , TX - A novel study designed to test the possibility of using chimpanzees as ambulance attendants has been prematurely halted because of animal safety concerns brought to light by the watchdog group PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). Researchers at the Southwestern Primate Center in San and the University of New Mexico School of Medicine in Albuquerque began the innovative study two years ago. Four western chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes verus) who had mastered sign language were taught an abbreviated first aid course and assigned to work on ambulances in New Mexico. The primates were paired with a human Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) who was skilled in sign language. The chimpanzees reportedly mastered basic first aid skills such as bandaging, splinting, oxygen administration, CPR, and learned to use a life-saving device known as an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) used to start the hearts of heart attack victims. The first three weeks of the study went well. However, as the study progressed, the chimps began to show signs of stress. At the scene of an accident, one chimp inadvertently bandaged a tree. On another accident scene, the ambulance chimp fled the scene with the EMT's lunch. As the study progressed, the behavior of the chimps became more bizarre. While attending an elderly victim of a stroke, one chimp said to the victim in sign language, " My panties are in need of oranges. " On another call, one chimp began to massage his genitals while howling like an ambulance siren. PETA had primate zoologists evaluate the animals and determined their workloads caused the decline in functioning. This was attributed to a process used by ambulance services called System Status Management (SSM) where ambulance drivers remain in their ambulances for extended periods of time without a break. Also, some of the chimps were given only a limited amount of oranges and bananas. Following termination of the experiment, one of the chimps was returned to the primate center, two were assigned to the ambulance dispatch office, and one was promoted to management. ________________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Ambulance gets unwanted rider (NJ) That's going to be the next thing. Hiring animals to do patient care. It has already been demonstrated that chimps can intubate, start IVs and do CPR, but the Simian Society has made such high salary demands that companies are experimenting with other animals. Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching deer the proper way to enter and exit the ambulance, however. E.(Gene) Gandy POB 1651 Albany, TX 76430 wegandy1938@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 --- julius simmons wrote: > How true > > " Bledsoe, DO " wrote: > There was that study a few years back where the > Simians did not do so well. > > > STUDY TERMINATED EARLY DUE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY > CONCERNS > Feb 20, 2004, 15:46 > > > San , TX - A novel study designed to test the > possibility of using > chimpanzees as ambulance attendants has been > prematurely halted because of > animal safety concerns brought to light by the > watchdog group PETA (People > for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). > > Researchers at the Southwestern Primate Center in > San and the > University of New Mexico School of Medicine in > Albuquerque began the > innovative study two years ago. Four western > chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes > verus) who had mastered sign language were taught an > abbreviated first aid > course and assigned to work on ambulances in New > Mexico. The primates were > paired with a human Emergency Medical Technician > (EMT) who was skilled in > sign language. > > The chimpanzees reportedly mastered basic first aid > skills such as > bandaging, splinting, oxygen administration, CPR, > and learned to use a > life-saving device known as an Automated External > Defibrillator (AED) used > to start the hearts of heart attack victims. The > first three weeks of the > study went well. > > However, as the study progressed, the chimps began > to show signs of stress. > At the scene of an accident, one chimp inadvertently > bandaged a tree. > > On another accident scene, the ambulance chimp fled > the scene with the EMT's > lunch. As the study progressed, the behavior of the > chimps became more > bizarre. While attending an elderly victim of a > stroke, one chimp said to > the victim in sign language, " My panties are in need > of oranges. " On another > call, one chimp began to massage his genitals while > howling like an > ambulance siren. > > PETA had primate zoologists evaluate the animals and > determined their > workloads caused the decline in functioning. This > was attributed to a > process used by ambulance services called System > Status Management (SSM) > where ambulance drivers remain in their ambulances > for extended periods of > time without a break. Also, some of the chimps were > given only a limited > amount of oranges and bananas. > > Following termination of the experiment, one of the > chimps was returned to > the primate center, two were assigned to the > ambulance dispatch office, and > one was promoted to management. > > > ________________________________________ > From: > [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of wegandy1938@... > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:14 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Ambulance gets unwanted > rider (NJ) > > That's going to be the next thing. Hiring animals > to do patient care. It > > has already been demonstrated that chimps can > intubate, start IVs and do > CPR, > but the Simian Society has made such high salary > demands that companies are > experimenting with other animals. > > Some difficulty has been encountered in teaching > deer the proper way to > enter > and exit the ambulance, however. > > > > > > E.(Gene) Gandy > POB 1651 > Albany, TX 76430 > wegandy1938@... > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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