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Hey Joanne It sounds great to me. We'd have to decide how to organize, get

501 C (non-profit status) and determine how to raise funds. Anyone out there

with this type of experience?

Joanne and Alaya 8-22-01

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Hey Joanne It sounds great to me. We'd have to decide how to organize, get

501 C (non-profit status) and determine how to raise funds. Anyone out there

with this type of experience?

Joanne and Alaya 8-22-01

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Hey Joanne It sounds great to me. We'd have to decide how to organize, get

501 C (non-profit status) and determine how to raise funds. Anyone out there

with this type of experience?

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,

Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about the efforts

of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more developments.

Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal of raising

funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot using the

Ponseti method in developing countries.

It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds and

coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could do to be of

help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund which may

at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization. It's such a

huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

>

>Message: 4

> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> "

>

>Subject: (unknown)

>

>Joanne,

>

>Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

>Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together to

>try to establish an organization that can work as a clearinghouse for

>Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the world. Dr.

>Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that would

>need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now worked

>on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

>worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

>political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a simple

>FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But for

>each country things will be a bit different.

>

>One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

>the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead the

>program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

>following up on the program over a number of years to make sure it

>becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4 years

>of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

>surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently untreated

>older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the ongoing

>costs into their system of health care and their medical school

>training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot Project

>came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

>number of other donators including British Airways for transportation

>to and from Uganda.

>

>The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going to

>the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

>Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those countries,

>there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

>major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings. They

>are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

>orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti method as

>their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to the

>rural clinic settings.

>

>I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping Hands

>to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

>doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti to

>help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out about

>the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their clinic.

>They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had begun

>corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

>Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this Haitian

>ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

>Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system to

>make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe that Dr.

>Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will be

>going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

>started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

>clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

>

>When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot in

>August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped area's of

>the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

>Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

>Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential impacts in

>their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding with

>some of those doctors.

>

>Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

>learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help find

>them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

>method treatment program.

>

>You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

>countries, production of training materials, seeking and processing

>charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and keep

>the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped also

>that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and the

>World Health Organization.

>

>Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

>

> and (3-17-99)

>

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,

Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about the efforts

of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more developments.

Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal of raising

funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot using the

Ponseti method in developing countries.

It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds and

coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could do to be of

help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund which may

at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization. It's such a

huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

>

>Message: 4

> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> "

>

>Subject: (unknown)

>

>Joanne,

>

>Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

>Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together to

>try to establish an organization that can work as a clearinghouse for

>Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the world. Dr.

>Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that would

>need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now worked

>on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

>worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

>political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a simple

>FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But for

>each country things will be a bit different.

>

>One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

>the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead the

>program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

>following up on the program over a number of years to make sure it

>becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4 years

>of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

>surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently untreated

>older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the ongoing

>costs into their system of health care and their medical school

>training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot Project

>came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

>number of other donators including British Airways for transportation

>to and from Uganda.

>

>The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going to

>the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

>Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those countries,

>there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

>major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings. They

>are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

>orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti method as

>their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to the

>rural clinic settings.

>

>I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping Hands

>to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

>doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti to

>help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out about

>the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their clinic.

>They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had begun

>corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

>Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this Haitian

>ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

>Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system to

>make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe that Dr.

>Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will be

>going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

>started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

>clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

>

>When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot in

>August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped area's of

>the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

>Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

>Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential impacts in

>their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding with

>some of those doctors.

>

>Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

>learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help find

>them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

>method treatment program.

>

>You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

>countries, production of training materials, seeking and processing

>charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and keep

>the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped also

>that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and the

>World Health Organization.

>

>Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

>

> and (3-17-99)

>

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Joanne,

These are currently the existing vehicles that could be used for

individuals to donate money to help in the effort to expand the use

of the Ponseti method. There are probably also other things that can

be done. I know that Dr. Pirani and Dr. Morcuende are in contact

allot about their combined efforts and working with other doctors who

may be trying to institute projects at clinics that they are already

involved with in underdeveloped areas of the world. The existing

sytems are:

1. An existing fund at the U of Iowa that Dr. Ponseti directs.

Dr. Ponseti can be contacted at

Telephone: (319)356-3469

Address:

University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics

200 Hawkins Drive

010255 JPP

Iowa City, IA 52242

Via E-mail: ignacio-ponseti @ uiowa.edu

http://www.vh.org/pediatric/patient/orthopaedics/clubfeet/contact.html

2. Dr. Pirani in Vancouver. Most of Dr. Pirani's funding has come

from Rotary Clubs in Canada, California and Uganda as well as

individual and corporate " in kind " donors such as British Airways for

travel. He also has some friends who are grant writers who apply for

additional funding through different charitable groups. The

International Rotary Organization is a bit swamped now because they

had committed to raise about $50,0000,0000 to eradicate polio

worldwide about 10 years ago in an effort that is nearing completion.

Dr. Pirani's address is

Shafique Pirani, MD

205-245 East Columbia Street

New Westminster

British Columbia

Canada V3L 3W4

Tel:

Fax:

E-mail: piras @ aol.com

3. Charity Balliger of our internet site has been setting up a Non-

Profit organization in California to help raise and distribute

funds. I am not sure of the status of this project at the moment.

Charity had come to 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot and has

discussed the non-profit that she has about gotten set up.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/12539

As far as the fund at the U of Iowa.

Dr. Ponseti has a fund that is attached to the University of Iowa

that has money in it from people who have wanted to help. I believe

that some of these funds have been used to help do Public Relations

efforts to get information into more mainstream media. Some of the

funds have also been used to help start the programs in Nicaragua,

Costa Rica and Columbia. As I had mentioned before, Dr. Morcuende

(at the U of Iowa) said that the first one week trip to train all of

the nine pediatric orthopedists in Nicaragua in April 2002 cost about

$2,500 from the Ponseti fund at the U of Iowa. The following details

were from a May message on this site about the POSNA convention.

Dr. Morcuende from the U of Iowa then spoke on his recent trip to

Nicaragua to begin implementation of a national clubfoot treatment

program as well. Nicaragua is a country of about 4 million that has

some existing medical and hospital systems in the main cities and has

9 pediatric orthopedists. He said that under the prior system, that

parents would have to go find an purchase their own plaster bandages

and bring them to the hospital for casting, because the hospital

didn't have the material. Those who had the money and resources to

get into the main hospital would get treatment and many who were

either poor or in the outlying rural areas may not get much in the

way of treatment.

He said that 2 weeks ago he was in Managua, Nicaragua for one week to

try to implement a national system of early treatment for clubfoot.

Meetings had been arranged for him to meet with the National Minister

of Health and the countries 9 pediatric orthopedists. He also was

able to meet the first lady of Nicaragua and explain the program to

her. One or two of the ped orthos had already been trying to

implement the Ponseti method and Dr. Morcuende trained all nine in

the method. During the next few months, the Nicaraguan doctors will

be implementing the Ponseti method in Managua while a system is being

developed to train rural clinics in how to identify and educate local

midwives, etc and have the local clinics be able to do the Ponseti

method. Then only children for whom the Ponseti method did not work

initially would be referred into the Main Hospital for either further

Ponseti treatment or the surgery. Part of the national program will

be to insure that casting and FAB supplies are available. It is

possible that they will try to figure out local production of a

simpler FAB like was done in Uganda. In a few months, Dr. Morcuende

will return to Nicaragua to see how well they are implementing the

method in the major hospital and work with them on the program to

train the rural clinics.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/11029

Since May 2002, the U of Iowa has also been working on programs for

Costa Rica and parts of Columbia (to begin with). They are hopeful

to work on other Central and South American projects as opportunities

come up.

Perhaps there are other method, means or ideas that we can come up

with that will help. I am sure that there is a place that each of us

can play in trying to make this available to all parents.

and (3-17-99)

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about the

efforts

> of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more

developments.

> Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

>

> My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal of

raising

> funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot

using the

> Ponseti method in developing countries.

>

> It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds and

> coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

>

> Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could do

to be of

> help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund

which may

> at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization. It's

such a

> huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

>

> Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

>

> >

> >Message: 4

> > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> > From: " Egbert <martinegbert@e...> "

> ><martinegbert@e...>

> >Subject: (unknown)

> >

> >Joanne,

> >

> >Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

> >Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together to

> >try to establish an organization that can work as a clearinghouse

for

> >Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the world.

Dr.

> >Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that would

> >need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now

worked

> >on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

> >worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

> >political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a

simple

> >FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But

for

> >each country things will be a bit different.

> >

> >One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

> >the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead the

> >program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

> >following up on the program over a number of years to make sure it

> >becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4 years

> >of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

> >surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently untreated

> >older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the ongoing

> >costs into their system of health care and their medical school

> >training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot

Project

> >came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

> >number of other donators including British Airways for

transportation

> >to and from Uganda.

> >

> >The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going to

> >the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

> >Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those

countries,

> >there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

> >major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings.

They

> >are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

> >orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti method

as

> >their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to

the

> >rural clinic settings.

> >

> >I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping

Hands

> >to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

> >doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti to

> >help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out

about

> >the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their clinic.

> >They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had

begun

> >corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

> >Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this

Haitian

> >ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

> >Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system to

> >make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe that

Dr.

> >Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will be

> >going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

> >started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

> >clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

> >

> >When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot

in

> >August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped area's

of

> >the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

> >Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

> >Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential impacts

in

> >their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding

with

> >some of those doctors.

> >

> >Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

> >learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help find

> >them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

> >method treatment program.

> >

> >You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

> >countries, production of training materials, seeking and processing

> >charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and

keep

> >the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped

also

> >that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and the

> >World Health Organization.

> >

> >Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

> >

> > and (3-17-99)

> >

>

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Joanne,

These are currently the existing vehicles that could be used for

individuals to donate money to help in the effort to expand the use

of the Ponseti method. There are probably also other things that can

be done. I know that Dr. Pirani and Dr. Morcuende are in contact

allot about their combined efforts and working with other doctors who

may be trying to institute projects at clinics that they are already

involved with in underdeveloped areas of the world. The existing

sytems are:

1. An existing fund at the U of Iowa that Dr. Ponseti directs.

Dr. Ponseti can be contacted at

Telephone: (319)356-3469

Address:

University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics

200 Hawkins Drive

010255 JPP

Iowa City, IA 52242

Via E-mail: ignacio-ponseti @ uiowa.edu

http://www.vh.org/pediatric/patient/orthopaedics/clubfeet/contact.html

2. Dr. Pirani in Vancouver. Most of Dr. Pirani's funding has come

from Rotary Clubs in Canada, California and Uganda as well as

individual and corporate " in kind " donors such as British Airways for

travel. He also has some friends who are grant writers who apply for

additional funding through different charitable groups. The

International Rotary Organization is a bit swamped now because they

had committed to raise about $50,0000,0000 to eradicate polio

worldwide about 10 years ago in an effort that is nearing completion.

Dr. Pirani's address is

Shafique Pirani, MD

205-245 East Columbia Street

New Westminster

British Columbia

Canada V3L 3W4

Tel:

Fax:

E-mail: piras @ aol.com

3. Charity Balliger of our internet site has been setting up a Non-

Profit organization in California to help raise and distribute

funds. I am not sure of the status of this project at the moment.

Charity had come to 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot and has

discussed the non-profit that she has about gotten set up.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/12539

As far as the fund at the U of Iowa.

Dr. Ponseti has a fund that is attached to the University of Iowa

that has money in it from people who have wanted to help. I believe

that some of these funds have been used to help do Public Relations

efforts to get information into more mainstream media. Some of the

funds have also been used to help start the programs in Nicaragua,

Costa Rica and Columbia. As I had mentioned before, Dr. Morcuende

(at the U of Iowa) said that the first one week trip to train all of

the nine pediatric orthopedists in Nicaragua in April 2002 cost about

$2,500 from the Ponseti fund at the U of Iowa. The following details

were from a May message on this site about the POSNA convention.

Dr. Morcuende from the U of Iowa then spoke on his recent trip to

Nicaragua to begin implementation of a national clubfoot treatment

program as well. Nicaragua is a country of about 4 million that has

some existing medical and hospital systems in the main cities and has

9 pediatric orthopedists. He said that under the prior system, that

parents would have to go find an purchase their own plaster bandages

and bring them to the hospital for casting, because the hospital

didn't have the material. Those who had the money and resources to

get into the main hospital would get treatment and many who were

either poor or in the outlying rural areas may not get much in the

way of treatment.

He said that 2 weeks ago he was in Managua, Nicaragua for one week to

try to implement a national system of early treatment for clubfoot.

Meetings had been arranged for him to meet with the National Minister

of Health and the countries 9 pediatric orthopedists. He also was

able to meet the first lady of Nicaragua and explain the program to

her. One or two of the ped orthos had already been trying to

implement the Ponseti method and Dr. Morcuende trained all nine in

the method. During the next few months, the Nicaraguan doctors will

be implementing the Ponseti method in Managua while a system is being

developed to train rural clinics in how to identify and educate local

midwives, etc and have the local clinics be able to do the Ponseti

method. Then only children for whom the Ponseti method did not work

initially would be referred into the Main Hospital for either further

Ponseti treatment or the surgery. Part of the national program will

be to insure that casting and FAB supplies are available. It is

possible that they will try to figure out local production of a

simpler FAB like was done in Uganda. In a few months, Dr. Morcuende

will return to Nicaragua to see how well they are implementing the

method in the major hospital and work with them on the program to

train the rural clinics.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/11029

Since May 2002, the U of Iowa has also been working on programs for

Costa Rica and parts of Columbia (to begin with). They are hopeful

to work on other Central and South American projects as opportunities

come up.

Perhaps there are other method, means or ideas that we can come up

with that will help. I am sure that there is a place that each of us

can play in trying to make this available to all parents.

and (3-17-99)

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about the

efforts

> of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more

developments.

> Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

>

> My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal of

raising

> funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot

using the

> Ponseti method in developing countries.

>

> It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds and

> coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

>

> Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could do

to be of

> help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund

which may

> at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization. It's

such a

> huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

>

> Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

>

> >

> >Message: 4

> > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> > From: " Egbert <martinegbert@e...> "

> ><martinegbert@e...>

> >Subject: (unknown)

> >

> >Joanne,

> >

> >Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

> >Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together to

> >try to establish an organization that can work as a clearinghouse

for

> >Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the world.

Dr.

> >Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that would

> >need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now

worked

> >on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

> >worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

> >political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a

simple

> >FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But

for

> >each country things will be a bit different.

> >

> >One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

> >the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead the

> >program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

> >following up on the program over a number of years to make sure it

> >becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4 years

> >of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

> >surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently untreated

> >older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the ongoing

> >costs into their system of health care and their medical school

> >training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot

Project

> >came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

> >number of other donators including British Airways for

transportation

> >to and from Uganda.

> >

> >The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going to

> >the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

> >Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those

countries,

> >there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

> >major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings.

They

> >are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

> >orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti method

as

> >their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to

the

> >rural clinic settings.

> >

> >I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping

Hands

> >to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

> >doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti to

> >help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out

about

> >the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their clinic.

> >They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had

begun

> >corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

> >Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this

Haitian

> >ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

> >Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system to

> >make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe that

Dr.

> >Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will be

> >going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

> >started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

> >clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

> >

> >When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot

in

> >August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped area's

of

> >the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

> >Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

> >Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential impacts

in

> >their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding

with

> >some of those doctors.

> >

> >Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

> >learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help find

> >them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

> >method treatment program.

> >

> >You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

> >countries, production of training materials, seeking and processing

> >charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and

keep

> >the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped

also

> >that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and the

> >World Health Organization.

> >

> >Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

> >

> > and (3-17-99)

> >

>

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Joanne,

These are currently the existing vehicles that could be used for

individuals to donate money to help in the effort to expand the use

of the Ponseti method. There are probably also other things that can

be done. I know that Dr. Pirani and Dr. Morcuende are in contact

allot about their combined efforts and working with other doctors who

may be trying to institute projects at clinics that they are already

involved with in underdeveloped areas of the world. The existing

sytems are:

1. An existing fund at the U of Iowa that Dr. Ponseti directs.

Dr. Ponseti can be contacted at

Telephone: (319)356-3469

Address:

University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics

200 Hawkins Drive

010255 JPP

Iowa City, IA 52242

Via E-mail: ignacio-ponseti @ uiowa.edu

http://www.vh.org/pediatric/patient/orthopaedics/clubfeet/contact.html

2. Dr. Pirani in Vancouver. Most of Dr. Pirani's funding has come

from Rotary Clubs in Canada, California and Uganda as well as

individual and corporate " in kind " donors such as British Airways for

travel. He also has some friends who are grant writers who apply for

additional funding through different charitable groups. The

International Rotary Organization is a bit swamped now because they

had committed to raise about $50,0000,0000 to eradicate polio

worldwide about 10 years ago in an effort that is nearing completion.

Dr. Pirani's address is

Shafique Pirani, MD

205-245 East Columbia Street

New Westminster

British Columbia

Canada V3L 3W4

Tel:

Fax:

E-mail: piras @ aol.com

3. Charity Balliger of our internet site has been setting up a Non-

Profit organization in California to help raise and distribute

funds. I am not sure of the status of this project at the moment.

Charity had come to 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot and has

discussed the non-profit that she has about gotten set up.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/12539

As far as the fund at the U of Iowa.

Dr. Ponseti has a fund that is attached to the University of Iowa

that has money in it from people who have wanted to help. I believe

that some of these funds have been used to help do Public Relations

efforts to get information into more mainstream media. Some of the

funds have also been used to help start the programs in Nicaragua,

Costa Rica and Columbia. As I had mentioned before, Dr. Morcuende

(at the U of Iowa) said that the first one week trip to train all of

the nine pediatric orthopedists in Nicaragua in April 2002 cost about

$2,500 from the Ponseti fund at the U of Iowa. The following details

were from a May message on this site about the POSNA convention.

Dr. Morcuende from the U of Iowa then spoke on his recent trip to

Nicaragua to begin implementation of a national clubfoot treatment

program as well. Nicaragua is a country of about 4 million that has

some existing medical and hospital systems in the main cities and has

9 pediatric orthopedists. He said that under the prior system, that

parents would have to go find an purchase their own plaster bandages

and bring them to the hospital for casting, because the hospital

didn't have the material. Those who had the money and resources to

get into the main hospital would get treatment and many who were

either poor or in the outlying rural areas may not get much in the

way of treatment.

He said that 2 weeks ago he was in Managua, Nicaragua for one week to

try to implement a national system of early treatment for clubfoot.

Meetings had been arranged for him to meet with the National Minister

of Health and the countries 9 pediatric orthopedists. He also was

able to meet the first lady of Nicaragua and explain the program to

her. One or two of the ped orthos had already been trying to

implement the Ponseti method and Dr. Morcuende trained all nine in

the method. During the next few months, the Nicaraguan doctors will

be implementing the Ponseti method in Managua while a system is being

developed to train rural clinics in how to identify and educate local

midwives, etc and have the local clinics be able to do the Ponseti

method. Then only children for whom the Ponseti method did not work

initially would be referred into the Main Hospital for either further

Ponseti treatment or the surgery. Part of the national program will

be to insure that casting and FAB supplies are available. It is

possible that they will try to figure out local production of a

simpler FAB like was done in Uganda. In a few months, Dr. Morcuende

will return to Nicaragua to see how well they are implementing the

method in the major hospital and work with them on the program to

train the rural clinics.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/11029

Since May 2002, the U of Iowa has also been working on programs for

Costa Rica and parts of Columbia (to begin with). They are hopeful

to work on other Central and South American projects as opportunities

come up.

Perhaps there are other method, means or ideas that we can come up

with that will help. I am sure that there is a place that each of us

can play in trying to make this available to all parents.

and (3-17-99)

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about the

efforts

> of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more

developments.

> Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

>

> My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal of

raising

> funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot

using the

> Ponseti method in developing countries.

>

> It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds and

> coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

>

> Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could do

to be of

> help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund

which may

> at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization. It's

such a

> huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

>

> Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

>

> >

> >Message: 4

> > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> > From: " Egbert <martinegbert@e...> "

> ><martinegbert@e...>

> >Subject: (unknown)

> >

> >Joanne,

> >

> >Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

> >Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together to

> >try to establish an organization that can work as a clearinghouse

for

> >Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the world.

Dr.

> >Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that would

> >need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now

worked

> >on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

> >worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

> >political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a

simple

> >FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But

for

> >each country things will be a bit different.

> >

> >One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

> >the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead the

> >program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

> >following up on the program over a number of years to make sure it

> >becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4 years

> >of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

> >surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently untreated

> >older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the ongoing

> >costs into their system of health care and their medical school

> >training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot

Project

> >came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

> >number of other donators including British Airways for

transportation

> >to and from Uganda.

> >

> >The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going to

> >the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

> >Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those

countries,

> >there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

> >major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings.

They

> >are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

> >orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti method

as

> >their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to

the

> >rural clinic settings.

> >

> >I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping

Hands

> >to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

> >doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti to

> >help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out

about

> >the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their clinic.

> >They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had

begun

> >corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

> >Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this

Haitian

> >ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

> >Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system to

> >make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe that

Dr.

> >Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will be

> >going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

> >started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

> >clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

> >

> >When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on Clubfoot

in

> >August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped area's

of

> >the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

> >Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

> >Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential impacts

in

> >their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding

with

> >some of those doctors.

> >

> >Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

> >learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help find

> >them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

> >method treatment program.

> >

> >You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

> >countries, production of training materials, seeking and processing

> >charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and

keep

> >the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped

also

> >that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and the

> >World Health Organization.

> >

> >Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

> >

> > and (3-17-99)

> >

>

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Joanne,

But also it may be good to have a separate foundation, organization

or whatever that we can use as a Parents Organization that that do a

lot of things including gathering funds from different charitable

sources for specific projects that we may choose.

A great example of a foundation that is doing the things that we

could is the U.K.'s STEPS organization. It was founded by Sue Banton

in 1980 before the internet existed.

At their site they say.

What is STEPS?

Twenty years ago, families of children with lower limb abnormalities

had nowhere to turn. This was the situation Sue Banton found herself

in following the birth of her son with club feet. The

frustration and isolation she faced motivated her to set up STEPS as

a self-help group in 1980. Eight years later, STEPS became a

registered charity and now helps over 2,000 families a year.

How can STEPS help?

The first thing we want you to know is that you're not alone! We have

been offering support to parents just like you for over 20 years. We

can help by;

Telephone help-line

The help-line is available Mon - Fri, 9.30am to 4.00pm for advice by

telephone if there is something you need to know. Please feel free to

phone, write, e-mail or even visit us at the Resource Centre in Lymm.

Further information

We have booklets and leaflets on Developmental Dysplasia of the Hip,

Congenital Talipes Equinovarus (club foot) and Lower Limb

Deficiencies, a regular magazine and equipment / aid lists. We also

have a comprehensive library of information relating to conditions

affecting lower limbs.

Getting together

Each year STEPS organises an annual event (There most recent one was

a Ponseti method training clinic in Manchester, England

http://www.steps-charity.org.uk/main/manchester.htm ) which not only

reviews the current thinking on lower limb abnormalities but allows

you to meet experts (such as Orthopaedic Consultants) in an informal

setting and brings together families who share your experience. There

are also groups and branches of STEPS throughout the country - we can

let you know if there is one local to you.

Donations

We hope you find this Internet site useful. Please let us know what

you think by contacting sue@.... If you want to

support our work please make an online donation by going to and

on 'search' type in steps and then choose National Association for

Children with Lower Limb Abnormalities - STEPS and follow the

instructions.

The site is located at

http://www.steps-charity.org.uk/index.html

I think that it would be a great idea if we could figure out how to

do something like STEPS.

and (3-17-99)

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about

the

> efforts

> > of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more

> developments.

> > Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

> >

> > My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal

of

> raising

> > funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot

> using the

> > Ponseti method in developing countries.

> >

> > It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds

and

> > coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

> >

> > Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could

do

> to be of

> > help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund

> which may

> > at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization.

It's

> such a

> > huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

> >

> > Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

> >

> > >

> > >Message: 4

> > > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> > > From: " Egbert <martinegbert@e...> "

> > ><martinegbert@e...>

> > >Subject: (unknown)

> > >

> > >Joanne,

> > >

> > >Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

> > >Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together

to

> > >try to establish an organization that can work as a

clearinghouse

> for

> > >Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the

world.

> Dr.

> > >Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that

would

> > >need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now

> worked

> > >on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

> > >worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

> > >political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a

> simple

> > >FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But

> for

> > >each country things will be a bit different.

> > >

> > >One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

> > >the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead

the

> > >program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

> > >following up on the program over a number of years to make sure

it

> > >becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4

years

> > >of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

> > >surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently

untreated

> > >older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the

ongoing

> > >costs into their system of health care and their medical school

> > >training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot

> Project

> > >came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

> > >number of other donators including British Airways for

> transportation

> > >to and from Uganda.

> > >

> > >The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going

to

> > >the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

> > >Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those

> countries,

> > >there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

> > >major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings.

> They

> > >are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

> > >orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti

method

> as

> > >their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to

> the

> > >rural clinic settings.

> > >

> > >I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping

> Hands

> > >to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

> > >doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti

to

> > >help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out

> about

> > >the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their

clinic.

> > >They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had

> begun

> > >corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

> > >Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this

> Haitian

> > >ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

> > >Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system

to

> > >make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe

that

> Dr.

> > >Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will

be

> > >going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

> > >started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

> > >clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

> > >

> > >When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on

Clubfoot

> in

> > >August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped

area's

> of

> > >the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

> > >Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

> > >Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential

impacts

> in

> > >their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding

> with

> > >some of those doctors.

> > >

> > >Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

> > >learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help

find

> > >them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

> > >method treatment program.

> > >

> > >You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

> > >countries, production of training materials, seeking and

processing

> > >charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and

> keep

> > >the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped

> also

> > >that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and

the

> > >World Health Organization.

> > >

> > >Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

> > >

> > > and (3-17-99)

> > >

> >

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Joanne,

But also it may be good to have a separate foundation, organization

or whatever that we can use as a Parents Organization that that do a

lot of things including gathering funds from different charitable

sources for specific projects that we may choose.

A great example of a foundation that is doing the things that we

could is the U.K.'s STEPS organization. It was founded by Sue Banton

in 1980 before the internet existed.

At their site they say.

What is STEPS?

Twenty years ago, families of children with lower limb abnormalities

had nowhere to turn. This was the situation Sue Banton found herself

in following the birth of her son with club feet. The

frustration and isolation she faced motivated her to set up STEPS as

a self-help group in 1980. Eight years later, STEPS became a

registered charity and now helps over 2,000 families a year.

How can STEPS help?

The first thing we want you to know is that you're not alone! We have

been offering support to parents just like you for over 20 years. We

can help by;

Telephone help-line

The help-line is available Mon - Fri, 9.30am to 4.00pm for advice by

telephone if there is something you need to know. Please feel free to

phone, write, e-mail or even visit us at the Resource Centre in Lymm.

Further information

We have booklets and leaflets on Developmental Dysplasia of the Hip,

Congenital Talipes Equinovarus (club foot) and Lower Limb

Deficiencies, a regular magazine and equipment / aid lists. We also

have a comprehensive library of information relating to conditions

affecting lower limbs.

Getting together

Each year STEPS organises an annual event (There most recent one was

a Ponseti method training clinic in Manchester, England

http://www.steps-charity.org.uk/main/manchester.htm ) which not only

reviews the current thinking on lower limb abnormalities but allows

you to meet experts (such as Orthopaedic Consultants) in an informal

setting and brings together families who share your experience. There

are also groups and branches of STEPS throughout the country - we can

let you know if there is one local to you.

Donations

We hope you find this Internet site useful. Please let us know what

you think by contacting sue@.... If you want to

support our work please make an online donation by going to and

on 'search' type in steps and then choose National Association for

Children with Lower Limb Abnormalities - STEPS and follow the

instructions.

The site is located at

http://www.steps-charity.org.uk/index.html

I think that it would be a great idea if we could figure out how to

do something like STEPS.

and (3-17-99)

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about

the

> efforts

> > of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more

> developments.

> > Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

> >

> > My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal

of

> raising

> > funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot

> using the

> > Ponseti method in developing countries.

> >

> > It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds

and

> > coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

> >

> > Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could

do

> to be of

> > help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund

> which may

> > at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization.

It's

> such a

> > huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

> >

> > Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

> >

> > >

> > >Message: 4

> > > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> > > From: " Egbert <martinegbert@e...> "

> > ><martinegbert@e...>

> > >Subject: (unknown)

> > >

> > >Joanne,

> > >

> > >Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

> > >Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together

to

> > >try to establish an organization that can work as a

clearinghouse

> for

> > >Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the

world.

> Dr.

> > >Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that

would

> > >need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now

> worked

> > >on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

> > >worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

> > >political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a

> simple

> > >FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But

> for

> > >each country things will be a bit different.

> > >

> > >One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

> > >the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead

the

> > >program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

> > >following up on the program over a number of years to make sure

it

> > >becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4

years

> > >of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

> > >surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently

untreated

> > >older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the

ongoing

> > >costs into their system of health care and their medical school

> > >training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot

> Project

> > >came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

> > >number of other donators including British Airways for

> transportation

> > >to and from Uganda.

> > >

> > >The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going

to

> > >the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

> > >Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those

> countries,

> > >there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

> > >major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings.

> They

> > >are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

> > >orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti

method

> as

> > >their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to

> the

> > >rural clinic settings.

> > >

> > >I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping

> Hands

> > >to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

> > >doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti

to

> > >help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out

> about

> > >the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their

clinic.

> > >They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had

> begun

> > >corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

> > >Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this

> Haitian

> > >ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

> > >Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system

to

> > >make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe

that

> Dr.

> > >Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will

be

> > >going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

> > >started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

> > >clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

> > >

> > >When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on

Clubfoot

> in

> > >August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped

area's

> of

> > >the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

> > >Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

> > >Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential

impacts

> in

> > >their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding

> with

> > >some of those doctors.

> > >

> > >Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

> > >learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help

find

> > >them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

> > >method treatment program.

> > >

> > >You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

> > >countries, production of training materials, seeking and

processing

> > >charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and

> keep

> > >the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped

> also

> > >that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and

the

> > >World Health Organization.

> > >

> > >Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

> > >

> > > and (3-17-99)

> > >

> >

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Joanne,

But also it may be good to have a separate foundation, organization

or whatever that we can use as a Parents Organization that that do a

lot of things including gathering funds from different charitable

sources for specific projects that we may choose.

A great example of a foundation that is doing the things that we

could is the U.K.'s STEPS organization. It was founded by Sue Banton

in 1980 before the internet existed.

At their site they say.

What is STEPS?

Twenty years ago, families of children with lower limb abnormalities

had nowhere to turn. This was the situation Sue Banton found herself

in following the birth of her son with club feet. The

frustration and isolation she faced motivated her to set up STEPS as

a self-help group in 1980. Eight years later, STEPS became a

registered charity and now helps over 2,000 families a year.

How can STEPS help?

The first thing we want you to know is that you're not alone! We have

been offering support to parents just like you for over 20 years. We

can help by;

Telephone help-line

The help-line is available Mon - Fri, 9.30am to 4.00pm for advice by

telephone if there is something you need to know. Please feel free to

phone, write, e-mail or even visit us at the Resource Centre in Lymm.

Further information

We have booklets and leaflets on Developmental Dysplasia of the Hip,

Congenital Talipes Equinovarus (club foot) and Lower Limb

Deficiencies, a regular magazine and equipment / aid lists. We also

have a comprehensive library of information relating to conditions

affecting lower limbs.

Getting together

Each year STEPS organises an annual event (There most recent one was

a Ponseti method training clinic in Manchester, England

http://www.steps-charity.org.uk/main/manchester.htm ) which not only

reviews the current thinking on lower limb abnormalities but allows

you to meet experts (such as Orthopaedic Consultants) in an informal

setting and brings together families who share your experience. There

are also groups and branches of STEPS throughout the country - we can

let you know if there is one local to you.

Donations

We hope you find this Internet site useful. Please let us know what

you think by contacting sue@.... If you want to

support our work please make an online donation by going to and

on 'search' type in steps and then choose National Association for

Children with Lower Limb Abnormalities - STEPS and follow the

instructions.

The site is located at

http://www.steps-charity.org.uk/index.html

I think that it would be a great idea if we could figure out how to

do something like STEPS.

and (3-17-99)

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I was aware from your previous posts about

the

> efforts

> > of Dr. Pirani, but I did not know that there were so many more

> developments.

> > Sounds like things are moving along nicely...

> >

> > My proposal is to establish a foundation with the specific goal

of

> raising

> > funds to support the works of doctors who are treating clubfoot

> using the

> > Ponseti method in developing countries.

> >

> > It would probably be a lot for one organization to raise funds

and

> > coordinate all of the medical aspects of this size project.

> >

> > Perhaps raising funds is what the parents/other supporters could

do

> to be of

> > help to the doctors. We could work on setting up a permanent fund

> which may

> > at a later time be incorporated into this larger organization.

It's

> such a

> > huge undertaking. It's hard to figure out how to help.

> >

> > Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01) right clubfoot

> >

> > >

> > >Message: 4

> > > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:24:24 -0000

> > > From: " Egbert <martinegbert@e...> "

> > ><martinegbert@e...>

> > >Subject: (unknown)

> > >

> > >Joanne,

> > >

> > >Yes, the effort to set up a group like that already exists. Dr.

> > >Pirani (Vancouver) and Dr. Morcuende (Iowa) are working together

to

> > >try to establish an organization that can work as a

clearinghouse

> for

> > >Ponseti method treatment projects to countries around the

world.

> Dr.

> > >Pirani has put together a systematic approach of things that

would

> > >need to be done for a system in any country. Since he has now

> worked

> > >on implementing this in 4 different African countries, they have

> > >worked out the " bugs " of the general program, training materials,

> > >political issues, instructions for the local manufacture of a

> simple

> > >FAB/DBB system and other things important to making it work. But

> for

> > >each country things will be a bit different.

> > >

> > >One thing that is needed is a doctor who is willing to be

> > >the " Champion " of the program in that country or region to lead

the

> > >program and also funding to cover the costs of setting it up and

> > >following up on the program over a number of years to make sure

it

> > >becomes sustainable. I think that the costs of funding the 4

years

> > >of the program in Uganda has been about $150,000 which included

> > >surgical related equipment and supplies for the currently

untreated

> > >older children. The country of Uganda has incorporated the

ongoing

> > >costs into their system of health care and their medical school

> > >training program. The initial funding of the Uganda Clubfoot

> Project

> > >came from the Rotary Club of Burnaby Vancouver, B.C. Canada and a

> > >number of other donators including British Airways for

> transportation

> > >to and from Uganda.

> > >

> > >The U of Iowa has been working on different situations by going

to

> > >the political and medical systems in Nicaragua, Costa Rica and

> > >Columbia to begin Ponseti method programs there. In those

> countries,

> > >there are already an existing pediatric orthopedic system in the

> > >major cities, but not perhaps as much in poorer rural settings.

> They

> > >are hopeful that they can change the approach of the existing ped

> > >orthos and medical school programs to institute the Ponseti

method

> as

> > >their countries mainstream method and then expand the program to

> the

> > >rural clinic settings.

> > >

> > >I am aware of a group of doctors have a program called " Helping

> Hands

> > >to Haiti " . They deal with all kinds of medical issues and have

> > >doctors with different specialties travel from the U.S. to Haiti

to

> > >help for short periods of time at their clinic. They found out

> about

> > >the Ponseti method and wanted to incorporate it into their

clinic.

> > >They contacted Dr. Pirani who had just coincidently met and had

> begun

> > >corresponding with a Haitian ped ortho at the 3rd International

> > >Congress on Clubfoot in August 2002. It turns out that this

> Haitian

> > >ped ortho was already doing some things with the Helping Hands to

> > >Haiti group. But they needed some help in setting up the system

to

> > >make the whole thing work and track the outcomes. I believe

that

> Dr.

> > >Pirani and/or a Shriners doctor who uses the Ponseti method will

be

> > >going to Haiti in the next few months to help get their program

> > >started. I believe that Haiti would have about 260 children with

> > >clubfeet per year, all within about 100 miles of this clinic.

> > >

> > >When Dr. Pirani was at the 3rd International Congress on

Clubfoot

> in

> > >August, there were a number of doctors from underdeveloped

area's

> of

> > >the world who were very interested in the Ponseti method and the

> > >Uganda Clubfoot program. But most of them had not yet used the

> > >Ponseti method yet themselves, but realized the potential

impacts

> in

> > >their own countries. I assume that Dr. Pirnai is corresponding

> with

> > >some of those doctors.

> > >

> > >Dr. Pirani also has doctors from major hospital groups who have

> > >learned and use the Ponseti method who have asked him to help

find

> > >them a country that they can adopt and go help set up a Ponseti

> > >method treatment program.

> > >

> > >You can see how a central organization to coordinate doctors,

> > >countries, production of training materials, seeking and

processing

> > >charitable funding and grants, track results of the programs and

> keep

> > >the whole process organized would be very helpful. It is hoped

> also

> > >that there will be at least endorsement support from POSNA and

the

> > >World Health Organization.

> > >

> > >Hopefully our groups can be of help in some way in these efforts.

> > >

> > > and (3-17-99)

> > >

> >

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