Re: VENTING!!! what is it? why has no one told me!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Lesley,

You can let the air or excess fluid out with a regular button as well.

We just attach Dylan's feeding syringe and extension and then just

open the clamp - if he is retching, this allows him to " vomit " through

the tube. I don't worry about how much, because his body tells me.

If he crys and pulls my hands to his button, then I do the same thing

and he " burps " through his tube.

Some children require frequent venting where they use the special tube

to keep it vented more often.

I am sorry to say that hospital nursing is far different than living

with your child at home - you don't always learn the tricks for

everyday function that would help families out.

Kim

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Lesley,

You can let the air or excess fluid out with a regular button as well.

We just attach Dylan's feeding syringe and extension and then just

open the clamp - if he is retching, this allows him to " vomit " through

the tube. I don't worry about how much, because his body tells me.

If he crys and pulls my hands to his button, then I do the same thing

and he " burps " through his tube.

Some children require frequent venting where they use the special tube

to keep it vented more often.

I am sorry to say that hospital nursing is far different than living

with your child at home - you don't always learn the tricks for

everyday function that would help families out.

Kim

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

[Guest guest]

I know I would be mad if no one told me everything I need to know

with something they did to my child.

I do vent Eva when I know she needs it she doesnt burp well so I

vent her to get the gases out. She is so different rigth after I do

it....lol.

Good luck hun and I hope this new info helps you!!

Crystal and Eva (1st birthday in 6 days charger)

>

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

[Guest guest]

I know I would be mad if no one told me everything I need to know

with something they did to my child.

I do vent Eva when I know she needs it she doesnt burp well so I

vent her to get the gases out. She is so different rigth after I do

it....lol.

Good luck hun and I hope this new info helps you!!

Crystal and Eva (1st birthday in 6 days charger)

>

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

[Guest guest]

You are not alone. I did not find the doctors very helpful in explaining how to

do this or demonstrating it. We learned more about how and when to vent from

another parent in our Parent-2-Parent group! When we had asked our pediatrician

(who is very competent) about how you knew when to do it--he just said " we would

know " based on how Evan was looking and acting! Hello...it's not that intuitive

at first!

(mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

Lesley Chan wrote:

Hi all

I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with annoyed

or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this word

is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted as

the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in stomach

and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

reflux)

today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

etc....

I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one if

it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

meeting.

question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc told

me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and chronic

lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

dont get mentioned....

DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

DOES IT HELP

HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

THANKS LES xx

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Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

please contact marion@... or visit

the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

8th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

[Guest guest]

You are not alone. I did not find the doctors very helpful in explaining how to

do this or demonstrating it. We learned more about how and when to vent from

another parent in our Parent-2-Parent group! When we had asked our pediatrician

(who is very competent) about how you knew when to do it--he just said " we would

know " based on how Evan was looking and acting! Hello...it's not that intuitive

at first!

(mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

Lesley Chan wrote:

Hi all

I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with annoyed

or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this word

is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted as

the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in stomach

and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

reflux)

today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

etc....

I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one if

it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

meeting.

question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc told

me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and chronic

lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

dont get mentioned....

DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

DOES IT HELP

HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

THANKS LES xx

CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

please contact marion@... or visit

the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

8th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

[Guest guest]

,

I vent Makenna before every feeding. When she was an infant I was

told to vent her before and an hour after every feeding. She only

has one port in her mickey button and we just connect the tubing and

allow air to come up before we feed her. Sometimes we lay her down

and sit her up to contract the tummy or rub her belly, this helps

the burps come up. We were told never to discard any of her fluids

that come up because it could have nutrients in it and throw her

electrolytes off. We let the air come up and let any liquid go back

down (unless she has a sour stomach and is retching then we discard

that). HOpe this helps. Ask for more clarification if you need it.

mom to Makenna

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

> annoyed

> > or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

> word

> > is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

> >

> > however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

> as

> > the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> > coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

> stomach

> > and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> > reflux)

> >

> > today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> > usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent

her

> > there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and

i

> > should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build

up

> > etc....

> >

> > I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> > button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this

be

> > mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

> if

> > it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the

group

> > meeting.

> >

> > question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

> told

> > me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

> chronic

> > lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

> >

> > i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out

they

> > dont get mentioned....

> >

> > DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> > DOES IT HELP

> > HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

> >

> > THANKS LES xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

I vent Makenna before every feeding. When she was an infant I was

told to vent her before and an hour after every feeding. She only

has one port in her mickey button and we just connect the tubing and

allow air to come up before we feed her. Sometimes we lay her down

and sit her up to contract the tummy or rub her belly, this helps

the burps come up. We were told never to discard any of her fluids

that come up because it could have nutrients in it and throw her

electrolytes off. We let the air come up and let any liquid go back

down (unless she has a sour stomach and is retching then we discard

that). HOpe this helps. Ask for more clarification if you need it.

mom to Makenna

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

> annoyed

> > or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

> word

> > is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

> >

> > however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

> as

> > the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> > coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

> stomach

> > and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> > reflux)

> >

> > today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> > usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent

her

> > there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and

i

> > should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build

up

> > etc....

> >

> > I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> > button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this

be

> > mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

> if

> > it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the

group

> > meeting.

> >

> > question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

> told

> > me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

> chronic

> > lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

> >

> > i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out

they

> > dont get mentioned....

> >

> > DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> > DOES IT HELP

> > HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

> >

> > THANKS LES xx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I vent Kennedy only when she asks for " the cup " . She gets a little gaggy

the odd time after a feeding and she'll say " I need the cup, get the cup " .

I just open up her feeding tube and let it drain down into a cup, every so

often I say " are you okay now? " - she'll either say " not done yet " or " okay "

and then she's off to whatever it was she was doing, as good as new!

Before she could speak, etc, I looked for signs (gagging, +++ mucous coming

out mouth post feeding, etc) and would just do it for a bit until the

symptoms stopped.

> --

> Weir

> kawfolks@...

> http://ca.geocities.com/weirfamilyrogers

[Guest guest]

I vent Kennedy only when she asks for " the cup " . She gets a little gaggy

the odd time after a feeding and she'll say " I need the cup, get the cup " .

I just open up her feeding tube and let it drain down into a cup, every so

often I say " are you okay now? " - she'll either say " not done yet " or " okay "

and then she's off to whatever it was she was doing, as good as new!

Before she could speak, etc, I looked for signs (gagging, +++ mucous coming

out mouth post feeding, etc) and would just do it for a bit until the

symptoms stopped.

> --

> Weir

> kawfolks@...

> http://ca.geocities.com/weirfamilyrogers

[Guest guest]

I feel relieved its not just me at times, I always feel way behind

the rest of you on here regarding charge issues, which do affect

Amelie, and then i am sad as if i should have know better, or am i

not paying enough attention, but today was simply gob smacking, I

cant believe no has suggested it before now, she as been pump fed

through her mickey since 4 month old thats 11 months without

venting, and now i have to wait for it to be discussed and then

order which could be months!!

AAARRRGGGHHH chan x

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute

membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about

the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be

available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I feel relieved its not just me at times, I always feel way behind

the rest of you on here regarding charge issues, which do affect

Amelie, and then i am sad as if i should have know better, or am i

not paying enough attention, but today was simply gob smacking, I

cant believe no has suggested it before now, she as been pump fed

through her mickey since 4 month old thats 11 months without

venting, and now i have to wait for it to be discussed and then

order which could be months!!

AAARRRGGGHHH chan x

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute

membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about

the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be

available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I feel relieved its not just me at times, I always feel way behind

the rest of you on here regarding charge issues, which do affect

Amelie, and then i am sad as if i should have know better, or am i

not paying enough attention, but today was simply gob smacking, I

cant believe no has suggested it before now, she as been pump fed

through her mickey since 4 month old thats 11 months without

venting, and now i have to wait for it to be discussed and then

order which could be months!!

AAARRRGGGHHH chan x

> Hi all

>

> I have seen this word on the listserv and associated it with

annoyed

> or venting your views, which where i come from that is how this

word

> is used. so never paid attention to this word.....ooooppps

>

> however, today we went to radiology to have a new gj tube fitted

as

> the last one was the wrong size and she also has billious fluid

> coming from her stoma hole in her stomach ( mickey button in

stomach

> and on xray is passed to the jejunum as a temp measure for the

> reflux)

>

> today i said she is retching a lot and needs to bring stuff up

> usually frothy mucous , and the radiographer said you can vent her

> there is a different type of mic-key button, with two ports, and i

> should draw back some of the stomach juices to ease with build up

> etc....

>

> I didnt have a clue i could do this...although i cant with the

> button i have its not got the two ports, but i asked could this be

> mentioned at the meeting i am waiting for....she should have one

if

> it will help her. so hopefully they will order one after the group

> meeting.

>

> question.......why if it would help has none of the doctors etc

told

> me about it or fitted it before now given all her reflux and

chronic

> lung disease through the aspirations and frequent pneumonias!!!

>

> i sometimes feel frustrated that if i dont search things out they

> dont get mentioned....

>

> DOES ANY ONE VENT THEIR CHILDREN

> DOES IT HELP

> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO TAKE OUT

>

> THANKS LES xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute

membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about

the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be

available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I understand I think what to do now, until the other tube is

ordered, BUT....i dont understand because the kids sound like they

are bolus fed, ie: one hour before or after feeding they are vented,

Amelie is on the pump for twenty hours 54mls and 4 hours off, so

when will I vent??

cheers Les xx

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> I vent Kennedy only when she asks for " the cup " . She gets a

little gaggy

> the odd time after a feeding and she'll say " I need the cup, get

the cup " .

> I just open up her feeding tube and let it drain down into a cup,

every so

> often I say " are you okay now? " - she'll either say " not done yet "

or " okay "

> and then she's off to whatever it was she was doing, as good as

new!

> Before she could speak, etc, I looked for signs (gagging, +++

mucous coming

> out mouth post feeding, etc) and would just do it for a bit until

the

> symptoms stopped.

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