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Hi Colleen,

It was very difficult to toilet train ...because he was a boy or

CHARGE...not really sure...Many times I wanted to give up...especially the last

time...he had an accident every day...I really wanted to give up...Then has

a totally good day, then another before I knew it it was a whole week..and then

the week later he was dry all night...Something clicked...I guess knew I

was ready to give up...he has now had no accidents knock on wood...even when he

has had surgery...the nurse told him he could go to the bathroom in the

portable urinal..he told her no he has to use the real bathroom...She had to

scoot him to the bathroom..but he did it...I have no sure fire way to help

.... had every book and video..We took special shopping trips just to find

really cool underwear...And dare I say I tried to bribe him with whatever he

wanted... it seemed nothing worked...then he just did it...His pediatrician said

I told you the would when he was good and

ready....UGH!!!... has been potty trained for over 4 years now

Good luck!!!

Ellen mom to 8

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Hi Colleen,

It was very difficult to toilet train ...because he was a boy or

CHARGE...not really sure...Many times I wanted to give up...especially the last

time...he had an accident every day...I really wanted to give up...Then has

a totally good day, then another before I knew it it was a whole week..and then

the week later he was dry all night...Something clicked...I guess knew I

was ready to give up...he has now had no accidents knock on wood...even when he

has had surgery...the nurse told him he could go to the bathroom in the

portable urinal..he told her no he has to use the real bathroom...She had to

scoot him to the bathroom..but he did it...I have no sure fire way to help

.... had every book and video..We took special shopping trips just to find

really cool underwear...And dare I say I tried to bribe him with whatever he

wanted... it seemed nothing worked...then he just did it...His pediatrician said

I told you the would when he was good and

ready....UGH!!!... has been potty trained for over 4 years now

Good luck!!!

Ellen mom to 8

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Hi Colleen,

It was very difficult to toilet train ...because he was a boy or

CHARGE...not really sure...Many times I wanted to give up...especially the last

time...he had an accident every day...I really wanted to give up...Then has

a totally good day, then another before I knew it it was a whole week..and then

the week later he was dry all night...Something clicked...I guess knew I

was ready to give up...he has now had no accidents knock on wood...even when he

has had surgery...the nurse told him he could go to the bathroom in the

portable urinal..he told her no he has to use the real bathroom...She had to

scoot him to the bathroom..but he did it...I have no sure fire way to help

.... had every book and video..We took special shopping trips just to find

really cool underwear...And dare I say I tried to bribe him with whatever he

wanted... it seemed nothing worked...then he just did it...His pediatrician said

I told you the would when he was good and

ready....UGH!!!... has been potty trained for over 4 years now

Good luck!!!

Ellen mom to 8

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Boy, Colleen, and my son must be twins separated at

birth! He also eats very little and only certain things. Although he

is toilet trained for the most part, I have to get on his case to go

to the bathroom, because it is RARE when he will go on his own. With

the advice of his pediatric urologist, we had him on an hourly

toileting schedule. We would take him to the bathroom every hour.

BMs were no problem, though; he has an anteriorly placed anus, which

makes defecating for him...not painful, but noticeable! He also does

not like doing it, so he will kind of sit there and make

these " Lamaze breathing " sounds like he's in labor. That's when we

go, " ! Get in that bathroom! " and he goes running, sits down

and lo and behold! LOL! However, urinating is another thing. He

often will get so caught up in what he is doing that he will just

keep on what he is doing until he pees in his pants. So we now have

a routine: when he gets up in the morning, he goes to the bathroom.

Before he gets on the bus he goes again. Once he gets to school, he

goes again. They know that they have to take him every two hours and

he goes right before he gets on the bus. When he gets home, he goes

again. After dinner, again then before he showers at night, he goes

again then again before bed. We try to keep this same schedule as

much as possible, though weekends are harder. But, since he cannot

sense for himself when he has to go, at least he can correlate

toileting with certain events, and that is better than wetting

himself. I am not sure why he cannot sense it himself. Often when he

gets mad or upset, he will say he has to go to the bathroom and

does, but other times he won't.

I hope this helps you! I know Pull-ups are expensive and Medicaid

wouldn't pay for them. You might want to try regular underwear. Just

like toileting any other child, they *usually* don't like the

feeling of wearing something wet and Pull-ups just absorb all that

wetness. Plus it'll save you money (although you may make up for it

in laundry costs!!). But it is worth a try. Good luck and let us

know how it goes.

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One more thing: it might be helpful to keep a toileting chart/journal

(this is helpful for school, too). You can chart the times that

goes to the toilet and mark down when she has an accident as well. You

might detect a pattern from this, such as certain times of the day or

stressful events or transitions in school (like changing classes,

coming in from recess, etc.). I'm not sure how verbal she is, but this

might help you discern things about her accidents she might not be able

to communicate to you. used to wet himself everytime he went

into the cafeteria and the teachers didn't know why. They finally tried

having him eat lunch in the classroom with his classmates and he

stopped wetting himself. We all agreed that it must be the chaos and

noise and crowds which stressed him out. He was gradually weaned back

into the cafeteria and the episodes stopped happening altogether.

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One more thing: it might be helpful to keep a toileting chart/journal

(this is helpful for school, too). You can chart the times that

goes to the toilet and mark down when she has an accident as well. You

might detect a pattern from this, such as certain times of the day or

stressful events or transitions in school (like changing classes,

coming in from recess, etc.). I'm not sure how verbal she is, but this

might help you discern things about her accidents she might not be able

to communicate to you. used to wet himself everytime he went

into the cafeteria and the teachers didn't know why. They finally tried

having him eat lunch in the classroom with his classmates and he

stopped wetting himself. We all agreed that it must be the chaos and

noise and crowds which stressed him out. He was gradually weaned back

into the cafeteria and the episodes stopped happening altogether.

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One more thing: it might be helpful to keep a toileting chart/journal

(this is helpful for school, too). You can chart the times that

goes to the toilet and mark down when she has an accident as well. You

might detect a pattern from this, such as certain times of the day or

stressful events or transitions in school (like changing classes,

coming in from recess, etc.). I'm not sure how verbal she is, but this

might help you discern things about her accidents she might not be able

to communicate to you. used to wet himself everytime he went

into the cafeteria and the teachers didn't know why. They finally tried

having him eat lunch in the classroom with his classmates and he

stopped wetting himself. We all agreed that it must be the chaos and

noise and crowds which stressed him out. He was gradually weaned back

into the cafeteria and the episodes stopped happening altogether.

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Hi Colleen!!

Our daughter was able to give up diapers when she was 10 years old

at the same time as the Boston conference in 1997. She took her

first airplane ride to Boston from the west coast and used toilets

in airplanes and airports from Oregon to Arizona, to Ohio and

Boston!! We were astonished. We attribute the success to having

been to the HANDLE institute one month prior to the conference. For

Kendra, the sphincter exercises helped immeasurably. From that time

forward she has not worn day-time diapers and has had less than

5 'accidents' in the daytime since that time 9 years ago.

She was also able to improve her eating enough following the HANDLE

exercises to have her g-tube removed within the year.

The HANDLE exercises were a big help in our case. Other factors

were instrumental as well, but the lion's share of our thanks goes

to the HANDLE institute for those two dramatic gains.

>

> Hello everyone!

> I am on yet another information finding mission. Are there any

kids out there who just cannot get the toiletting thing? My

daughter is 8 and still wears pull ups to school. This week she's

had about 3-4 accidents per day. And forget about night time! She

was doing better for a bit but now we are in this valley and I'm not

sure where to go from here. She also does not want to

eat...although she does eat purees and mashed foods. Just looking

for some of your thoughts!! Thanks!!

> Colleen

> Mom to , 8, power walker.

>

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Hi Colleen!!

Our daughter was able to give up diapers when she was 10 years old

at the same time as the Boston conference in 1997. She took her

first airplane ride to Boston from the west coast and used toilets

in airplanes and airports from Oregon to Arizona, to Ohio and

Boston!! We were astonished. We attribute the success to having

been to the HANDLE institute one month prior to the conference. For

Kendra, the sphincter exercises helped immeasurably. From that time

forward she has not worn day-time diapers and has had less than

5 'accidents' in the daytime since that time 9 years ago.

She was also able to improve her eating enough following the HANDLE

exercises to have her g-tube removed within the year.

The HANDLE exercises were a big help in our case. Other factors

were instrumental as well, but the lion's share of our thanks goes

to the HANDLE institute for those two dramatic gains.

>

> Hello everyone!

> I am on yet another information finding mission. Are there any

kids out there who just cannot get the toiletting thing? My

daughter is 8 and still wears pull ups to school. This week she's

had about 3-4 accidents per day. And forget about night time! She

was doing better for a bit but now we are in this valley and I'm not

sure where to go from here. She also does not want to

eat...although she does eat purees and mashed foods. Just looking

for some of your thoughts!! Thanks!!

> Colleen

> Mom to , 8, power walker.

>

>

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Colleen,

I didn't want to say anything on the list too soon but; MacKenzie (also

almost 8), woke up 2 weeks ago and just started going to the toilet. She had

still been in pull ups and I really had not bothered with training for some

time. She's still only peeing, saying pooping on the toilet is " gross " , but

it's a start. A rather surprising start! This pattern is actually typical

for her. We spend eons trying to get her to do something,(walk, eat, talk),

we give up, and then BAM, she does it. Talk about a control queen. Anyway,

don't get too down about it, these 8 year old CHARGE girlies have their own

agenda.

Lots of luck

Jeanie Colp

mom to MacKenzie CHARGE, Tyler 14 & Zachary 11

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Colleen,

I didn't want to say anything on the list too soon but; MacKenzie (also

almost 8), woke up 2 weeks ago and just started going to the toilet. She had

still been in pull ups and I really had not bothered with training for some

time. She's still only peeing, saying pooping on the toilet is " gross " , but

it's a start. A rather surprising start! This pattern is actually typical

for her. We spend eons trying to get her to do something,(walk, eat, talk),

we give up, and then BAM, she does it. Talk about a control queen. Anyway,

don't get too down about it, these 8 year old CHARGE girlies have their own

agenda.

Lots of luck

Jeanie Colp

mom to MacKenzie CHARGE, Tyler 14 & Zachary 11

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Colleen,

I didn't want to say anything on the list too soon but; MacKenzie (also

almost 8), woke up 2 weeks ago and just started going to the toilet. She had

still been in pull ups and I really had not bothered with training for some

time. She's still only peeing, saying pooping on the toilet is " gross " , but

it's a start. A rather surprising start! This pattern is actually typical

for her. We spend eons trying to get her to do something,(walk, eat, talk),

we give up, and then BAM, she does it. Talk about a control queen. Anyway,

don't get too down about it, these 8 year old CHARGE girlies have their own

agenda.

Lots of luck

Jeanie Colp

mom to MacKenzie CHARGE, Tyler 14 & Zachary 11

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yay mack

>

> Colleen,

> I didn't want to say anything on the list too soon but; MacKenzie (also

> almost 8), woke up 2 weeks ago and just started going to the toilet. She

> had

> still been in pull ups and I really had not bothered with training for

> some

> time. She's still only peeing, saying pooping on the toilet is " gross " ,

> but

> it's a start. A rather surprising start! This pattern is actually typical

> for her. We spend eons trying to get her to do something,(walk, eat,

> talk),

> we give up, and then BAM, she does it. Talk about a control queen. Anyway,

> don't get too down about it, these 8 year old CHARGE girlies have their

> own

> agenda.

>

> Lots of luck

> Jeanie Colp

> mom to MacKenzie CHARGE, Tyler 14 & Zachary 11

>

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yay mack

>

> Colleen,

> I didn't want to say anything on the list too soon but; MacKenzie (also

> almost 8), woke up 2 weeks ago and just started going to the toilet. She

> had

> still been in pull ups and I really had not bothered with training for

> some

> time. She's still only peeing, saying pooping on the toilet is " gross " ,

> but

> it's a start. A rather surprising start! This pattern is actually typical

> for her. We spend eons trying to get her to do something,(walk, eat,

> talk),

> we give up, and then BAM, she does it. Talk about a control queen. Anyway,

> don't get too down about it, these 8 year old CHARGE girlies have their

> own

> agenda.

>

> Lots of luck

> Jeanie Colp

> mom to MacKenzie CHARGE, Tyler 14 & Zachary 11

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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