Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hi. I've been reading the posts on IEPs over the past few weeks and I have some questions. I have never been requested to sign 's IEP. The school district has had her IEP meeting twice and I've never had to sign anything but an attendance sheet - it this normal in New York? At the IEP meeting, I handed the CPSE chairperson a letter requesting certain additions to 's IEP - nothing I thought should cause an issue - see my list below-please let me know if you think anything is unreasonable or not worded well. The chairperson refused to add any of it to the IEP - said she doesn't take lists from parents and add them in. She said all the issues would be addressed, but she wouldn't put them in writing. So far, we've been doing OK because 's teachers know I'm watching and will complain if they don't use her equipment correctly, but I want to head off any future disasters. Any advice on how to handle our next meeting which is next week? 1) Instructions on how FM system is to be worn (Karla XXXXXX can provide explicit instructions on individual FM use and we can add information once a bracket for the 2 FM system is contructed) 2) Instructions on how FM system is to be checked 3) Instructions on how FM system is to be maintained/charged 4) Required hardware for the classroom: listening stethoset, forced air/earmold blower, battery tester and extra batteries(I am happy to supply, and have already supplied, the extra batteries, but I would like it stated in the IEP that they need to be there to insure I am informed when the are depleted) 5) Retraining of entire staff working with once a year on hearing aid and FM equipment 6) Retraining of entire staff working with once a year on issues related to HI children. 7) An annual review of 's classroom by the educational audiologist to determine what changes can be made to make the classroom better acoustically 8) Speech and language goals as laid out on pages 20-25 in the e evaluation. 9) We would like more frequent updates in writing and updated goals every 2 months.(as catches up to her appropriate level, we can widen this, but for now I believe this frequency is necessary) 10 )Communication between individual SLP and classroom staff should be explicitly spelled out to ensure optimum communication and benefit for Thanks for all your help - I learn so much from reading the posts here. Cheryl - mom to , 4 severe hearing loss and , 2 hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Cheryl, In order to add those things to the IEP you need to have a meeting. One to make sure it is worded right and two because they can't change an IEP without your signing a new one. It is not ok anywhere in the country for you not to have signed an IEP. It is a legal document and needs to be signed by everyone on the team and you are one of the biggest players on the team. Ask them why you have never been asked to sign the IEP. The reason you need to sign it is because that is a written statement that you agree with it. If you don't sign it then that suggests that you don't agree and then it has to go to mediation where both partys express their opinions regarding it and eventually it will need to be resolved and signed. It is illegal for them not to have it signed, he might as well be a child without an IEP. I realize that they are using the IEP but legally they don't have to if there is not a signed document. Anyway hope that helps. IEP questions Hi. I've been reading the posts on IEPs over the past few weeks and I have some questions. I have never been requested to sign 's IEP. The school district has had her IEP meeting twice and I've never had to sign anything but an attendance sheet - it this normal in New York? At the IEP meeting, I handed the CPSE chairperson a letter requesting certain additions to 's IEP - nothing I thought should cause an issue - see my list below-please let me know if you think anything is unreasonable or not worded well. The chairperson refused to add any of it to the IEP - said she doesn't take lists from parents and add them in. She said all the issues would be addressed, but she wouldn't put them in writing. So far, we've been doing OK because 's teachers know I'm watching and will complain if they don't use her equipment correctly, but I want to head off any future disasters. Any advice on how to handle our next meeting which is next week? 1) Instructions on how FM system is to be worn (Karla XXXXXX can provide explicit instructions on individual FM use and we can add information once a bracket for the 2 FM system is contructed) 2) Instructions on how FM system is to be checked 3) Instructions on how FM system is to be maintained/charged 4) Required hardware for the classroom: listening stethoset, forced air/earmold blower, battery tester and extra batteries(I am happy to supply, and have already supplied, the extra batteries, but I would like it stated in the IEP that they need to be there to insure I am informed when the are depleted) 5) Retraining of entire staff working with once a year on hearing aid and FM equipment 6) Retraining of entire staff working with once a year on issues related to HI children. 7) An annual review of 's classroom by the educational audiologist to determine what changes can be made to make the classroom better acoustically 8) Speech and language goals as laid out on pages 20-25 in the e evaluation. 9) We would like more frequent updates in writing and updated goals every 2 months.(as catches up to her appropriate level, we can widen this, but for now I believe this frequency is necessary) 10 )Communication between individual SLP and classroom staff should be explicitly spelled out to ensure optimum communication and benefit for Thanks for all your help - I learn so much from reading the posts here. Cheryl - mom to , 4 severe hearing loss and , 2 hearing All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Cheryl, In order to add those things to the IEP you need to have a meeting. One to make sure it is worded right and two because they can't change an IEP without your signing a new one. It is not ok anywhere in the country for you not to have signed an IEP. It is a legal document and needs to be signed by everyone on the team and you are one of the biggest players on the team. Ask them why you have never been asked to sign the IEP. The reason you need to sign it is because that is a written statement that you agree with it. If you don't sign it then that suggests that you don't agree and then it has to go to mediation where both partys express their opinions regarding it and eventually it will need to be resolved and signed. It is illegal for them not to have it signed, he might as well be a child without an IEP. I realize that they are using the IEP but legally they don't have to if there is not a signed document. Anyway hope that helps. IEP questions Hi. I've been reading the posts on IEPs over the past few weeks and I have some questions. I have never been requested to sign 's IEP. The school district has had her IEP meeting twice and I've never had to sign anything but an attendance sheet - it this normal in New York? At the IEP meeting, I handed the CPSE chairperson a letter requesting certain additions to 's IEP - nothing I thought should cause an issue - see my list below-please let me know if you think anything is unreasonable or not worded well. The chairperson refused to add any of it to the IEP - said she doesn't take lists from parents and add them in. She said all the issues would be addressed, but she wouldn't put them in writing. So far, we've been doing OK because 's teachers know I'm watching and will complain if they don't use her equipment correctly, but I want to head off any future disasters. Any advice on how to handle our next meeting which is next week? 1) Instructions on how FM system is to be worn (Karla XXXXXX can provide explicit instructions on individual FM use and we can add information once a bracket for the 2 FM system is contructed) 2) Instructions on how FM system is to be checked 3) Instructions on how FM system is to be maintained/charged 4) Required hardware for the classroom: listening stethoset, forced air/earmold blower, battery tester and extra batteries(I am happy to supply, and have already supplied, the extra batteries, but I would like it stated in the IEP that they need to be there to insure I am informed when the are depleted) 5) Retraining of entire staff working with once a year on hearing aid and FM equipment 6) Retraining of entire staff working with once a year on issues related to HI children. 7) An annual review of 's classroom by the educational audiologist to determine what changes can be made to make the classroom better acoustically 8) Speech and language goals as laid out on pages 20-25 in the e evaluation. 9) We would like more frequent updates in writing and updated goals every 2 months.(as catches up to her appropriate level, we can widen this, but for now I believe this frequency is necessary) 10 )Communication between individual SLP and classroom staff should be explicitly spelled out to ensure optimum communication and benefit for Thanks for all your help - I learn so much from reading the posts here. Cheryl - mom to , 4 severe hearing loss and , 2 hearing All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Jill, Thanks for the response! Your input is appreciated and will be very helpful. I'm gearing up to make sure I don't get a " no " when I re-request this stuff be put into the IEP. I was so happy to get additional services at our last meeting that I let this one slide - the chairperson's response actually suprised me. I figured I'd get some advice from the members of this group before re-adressing the issues. I should have read my notes a little more closely and explained - Karla provided a list of instructions on how the FM system is to be worn (Boot up, high around the neck, etc.) to 's nursery school. These were the instructions I was referring to - didn't mean to put the actual item word for word for number one, even though that's what my email implied. Thanks again for all your advice! Cheryl > > <<1) Instructions on how FM system is to be worn (Karla XXXXXX can > provide explicit instructions on individual FM use and we can add > information once a bracket for the 2 FM system is contructed) > 2) Instructions on how FM system is to be checked>> > > For items 1 and 2, I doubt that the school will include exact language or > specifically name Karla as the contact person. The school's arrangement is with > Hearing Works and Karla is an employee of theirs. (She also handles our son's > FMs, and we adore her.) The school will not list Hearing Works or Karla since > That would limit their services choices. They may chose to move their contaract > to another service provider for the maintainence/service. > > Instead I would suggest using general wording referring to a specific person > at the school be designated as the contact person who is in charge of > maintainence and trouble shooting. In our IEP it is the TOD and the principal. This > person is authorized by the district to send the FMs in for service and approve > those costs. > > Specific instructions on how to trouble shoot the FM system would be based on > the specific system, so it is unlikely that detail instructions would be > included in the IEP. Instead, there should be a specific person designateed to be > trained to trouble shoot the system and know when it needs to go in for > service. For us, that person is the TOD. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Jill, Thanks for the response! Your input is appreciated and will be very helpful. I'm gearing up to make sure I don't get a " no " when I re-request this stuff be put into the IEP. I was so happy to get additional services at our last meeting that I let this one slide - the chairperson's response actually suprised me. I figured I'd get some advice from the members of this group before re-adressing the issues. I should have read my notes a little more closely and explained - Karla provided a list of instructions on how the FM system is to be worn (Boot up, high around the neck, etc.) to 's nursery school. These were the instructions I was referring to - didn't mean to put the actual item word for word for number one, even though that's what my email implied. Thanks again for all your advice! Cheryl > > <<1) Instructions on how FM system is to be worn (Karla XXXXXX can > provide explicit instructions on individual FM use and we can add > information once a bracket for the 2 FM system is contructed) > 2) Instructions on how FM system is to be checked>> > > For items 1 and 2, I doubt that the school will include exact language or > specifically name Karla as the contact person. The school's arrangement is with > Hearing Works and Karla is an employee of theirs. (She also handles our son's > FMs, and we adore her.) The school will not list Hearing Works or Karla since > That would limit their services choices. They may chose to move their contaract > to another service provider for the maintainence/service. > > Instead I would suggest using general wording referring to a specific person > at the school be designated as the contact person who is in charge of > maintainence and trouble shooting. In our IEP it is the TOD and the principal. This > person is authorized by the district to send the FMs in for service and approve > those costs. > > Specific instructions on how to trouble shoot the FM system would be based on > the specific system, so it is unlikely that detail instructions would be > included in the IEP. Instead, there should be a specific person designateed to be > trained to trouble shoot the system and know when it needs to go in for > service. For us, that person is the TOD. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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