Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Topper: Do you mind if I pick your brain a bit? What is the name for Graves anti-bodies again? They determine Graves by those and also high t3free and/or high t4. What else? Multi-nodular toxic goiter is different from this? And..then differnent still in Hashi w/multui nodular goiter? One is not just hypo...its not a diagnosis...so what does one do test wise to make the determination? ~E:) ~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 > > > > Topper: > > Do you mind if I pick your brain a bit? > > What is the name for Graves anti-bodies again? They determine Graves by those and also high t3free and/or high t4. What else? Multi-nodular toxic goiter is different from this? And..then differnent still in Hashi w/multui nodular goiter? > > One is not just hypo...its not a diagnosis...so what does one do test wise to make the determination? > > ~E:) > >Not Topper..but lets see if this answers your question.(s) A TSI and/or TRAB test is onsdiered the testing for grave's antibodies depending on country etc. A TPO antibody test is considered the testing for Hashimotos. It is possible to test positive for one or both of these antibody's and not have any thyroid problems. Goiter means an enlarged thyroid. Diffuse means even enlarged no nodules. Nodule means a growth. Mutli- means more than one. Hypo means low Hyper means high Toxic means in excess. A typical Grave's patient has a diffuse toxic goiter with a high TSI reading. Or an enlarged thyroid producing excessive thyroid hormone caused by Grave's. Someone with a multinodular goiter is just simply someone who has an enlarged thyroid with growths.. Someone with a toxic multinodular goiter simply means they have an enlarged thyroid with nodules that is producing excessive thyroid hormone. Someone who is hypo can have a diffuse goiter with a high tilter of Hashimoto's antibody's. Thyroid function would still need to tested to determine actual thyroid status. Nodules can produce no thyroid hormone or they can produce excessive thyroid hormone without regard to response from the TSH. Nodules also run about a 5% chance of being cancerous or turning malignant. Blood work will determine antibody levels and thyroid function levels. These in general will determine if you are hyper/hypo and why.. An ultrasound will determine the physical status of your thyrois in regards to nodules, size, enlargement etc. If Nodules are found although an ultrasound can determine size and shape a RAI uptake scan is still required to see if the nodules are functioning or non functioning. As a general rule functioning nodules produce excessive thyroid hormone and are not considered cancerous. Non functioning nodules do not produce thyroid hormone. They have a higher risk of being cancerous and need further investigation and closer follow up for changes. Do understand it is actually possible to have all of the above which tends to block and produce and make diagnosis harder.And it si possible to not have a goiter and still have an autoimmune thyroi ddisorder casuing either hypo or hyper. But each one needs to be tested otherwise I could just say you have a thyroid..well duh..everyone has or had one..then I could say well you have a goiter..oh ok..so my thyroid is enlarged..goiters are suppose to be common. Then I can say you have a diffuse goiter..ok so I have a large goiter with no nodules. Then I run a few more tests and say you have a diffuse toxic goiter..so now you are producing excessive thyroid hormones with an enlarged thyroid that has no nodules.. What cause this condition? Grave's?, hyperswing of Hashimoto's?, postpartum thyroiditis?, viral thyroiditis?...genetic defect in TSH receptors? other causes? Each one requires a different treatment plan so it is important to find the actual cause. I do know there is a few other antibody tests that can be done that others will post and also a few other conditions that can cause thyroid problems including the pituary thyroid axis but you get the general idea and why people always post saying well hypo/ hyper is not enough of a diagnosis to help. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 > > > > Topper: > > Do you mind if I pick your brain a bit? > > What is the name for Graves anti-bodies again? They determine Graves by those and also high t3free and/or high t4. What else? Multi-nodular toxic goiter is different from this? And..then differnent still in Hashi w/multui nodular goiter? > > One is not just hypo...its not a diagnosis...so what does one do test wise to make the determination? > > ~E:) > >Not Topper..but lets see if this answers your question.(s) A TSI and/or TRAB test is onsdiered the testing for grave's antibodies depending on country etc. A TPO antibody test is considered the testing for Hashimotos. It is possible to test positive for one or both of these antibody's and not have any thyroid problems. Goiter means an enlarged thyroid. Diffuse means even enlarged no nodules. Nodule means a growth. Mutli- means more than one. Hypo means low Hyper means high Toxic means in excess. A typical Grave's patient has a diffuse toxic goiter with a high TSI reading. Or an enlarged thyroid producing excessive thyroid hormone caused by Grave's. Someone with a multinodular goiter is just simply someone who has an enlarged thyroid with growths.. Someone with a toxic multinodular goiter simply means they have an enlarged thyroid with nodules that is producing excessive thyroid hormone. Someone who is hypo can have a diffuse goiter with a high tilter of Hashimoto's antibody's. Thyroid function would still need to tested to determine actual thyroid status. Nodules can produce no thyroid hormone or they can produce excessive thyroid hormone without regard to response from the TSH. Nodules also run about a 5% chance of being cancerous or turning malignant. Blood work will determine antibody levels and thyroid function levels. These in general will determine if you are hyper/hypo and why.. An ultrasound will determine the physical status of your thyrois in regards to nodules, size, enlargement etc. If Nodules are found although an ultrasound can determine size and shape a RAI uptake scan is still required to see if the nodules are functioning or non functioning. As a general rule functioning nodules produce excessive thyroid hormone and are not considered cancerous. Non functioning nodules do not produce thyroid hormone. They have a higher risk of being cancerous and need further investigation and closer follow up for changes. Do understand it is actually possible to have all of the above which tends to block and produce and make diagnosis harder.And it si possible to not have a goiter and still have an autoimmune thyroi ddisorder casuing either hypo or hyper. But each one needs to be tested otherwise I could just say you have a thyroid..well duh..everyone has or had one..then I could say well you have a goiter..oh ok..so my thyroid is enlarged..goiters are suppose to be common. Then I can say you have a diffuse goiter..ok so I have a large goiter with no nodules. Then I run a few more tests and say you have a diffuse toxic goiter..so now you are producing excessive thyroid hormones with an enlarged thyroid that has no nodules.. What cause this condition? Grave's?, hyperswing of Hashimoto's?, postpartum thyroiditis?, viral thyroiditis?...genetic defect in TSH receptors? other causes? Each one requires a different treatment plan so it is important to find the actual cause. I do know there is a few other antibody tests that can be done that others will post and also a few other conditions that can cause thyroid problems including the pituary thyroid axis but you get the general idea and why people always post saying well hypo/ hyper is not enough of a diagnosis to help. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 > > > > Topper: > > Do you mind if I pick your brain a bit? > > What is the name for Graves anti-bodies again? They determine Graves by those and also high t3free and/or high t4. What else? Multi-nodular toxic goiter is different from this? And..then differnent still in Hashi w/multui nodular goiter? > > One is not just hypo...its not a diagnosis...so what does one do test wise to make the determination? > > ~E:) > >Not Topper..but lets see if this answers your question.(s) A TSI and/or TRAB test is onsdiered the testing for grave's antibodies depending on country etc. A TPO antibody test is considered the testing for Hashimotos. It is possible to test positive for one or both of these antibody's and not have any thyroid problems. Goiter means an enlarged thyroid. Diffuse means even enlarged no nodules. Nodule means a growth. Mutli- means more than one. Hypo means low Hyper means high Toxic means in excess. A typical Grave's patient has a diffuse toxic goiter with a high TSI reading. Or an enlarged thyroid producing excessive thyroid hormone caused by Grave's. Someone with a multinodular goiter is just simply someone who has an enlarged thyroid with growths.. Someone with a toxic multinodular goiter simply means they have an enlarged thyroid with nodules that is producing excessive thyroid hormone. Someone who is hypo can have a diffuse goiter with a high tilter of Hashimoto's antibody's. Thyroid function would still need to tested to determine actual thyroid status. Nodules can produce no thyroid hormone or they can produce excessive thyroid hormone without regard to response from the TSH. Nodules also run about a 5% chance of being cancerous or turning malignant. Blood work will determine antibody levels and thyroid function levels. These in general will determine if you are hyper/hypo and why.. An ultrasound will determine the physical status of your thyrois in regards to nodules, size, enlargement etc. If Nodules are found although an ultrasound can determine size and shape a RAI uptake scan is still required to see if the nodules are functioning or non functioning. As a general rule functioning nodules produce excessive thyroid hormone and are not considered cancerous. Non functioning nodules do not produce thyroid hormone. They have a higher risk of being cancerous and need further investigation and closer follow up for changes. Do understand it is actually possible to have all of the above which tends to block and produce and make diagnosis harder.And it si possible to not have a goiter and still have an autoimmune thyroi ddisorder casuing either hypo or hyper. But each one needs to be tested otherwise I could just say you have a thyroid..well duh..everyone has or had one..then I could say well you have a goiter..oh ok..so my thyroid is enlarged..goiters are suppose to be common. Then I can say you have a diffuse goiter..ok so I have a large goiter with no nodules. Then I run a few more tests and say you have a diffuse toxic goiter..so now you are producing excessive thyroid hormones with an enlarged thyroid that has no nodules.. What cause this condition? Grave's?, hyperswing of Hashimoto's?, postpartum thyroiditis?, viral thyroiditis?...genetic defect in TSH receptors? other causes? Each one requires a different treatment plan so it is important to find the actual cause. I do know there is a few other antibody tests that can be done that others will post and also a few other conditions that can cause thyroid problems including the pituary thyroid axis but you get the general idea and why people always post saying well hypo/ hyper is not enough of a diagnosis to help. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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