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Amy,

Your list looks pretty thorough, but have you tried venting his g-tube for

gas? Evan will make gagging noises when he needs to be vented (his Nissen must

be pretty tight, because we have yet to see him vomit).

I see you have tried slowing his feeds down some, but you may want to try

slowing them even more. We have also slowed Evan's feeding rate way down, and

this has helped a lot with the gagging. He gets 130 mL feeding at a rate of

~80-90 ml/hr, so a meal takes about 1 1/2-2 hrs. We went through a pretty

miserble time with Evan, where we were trying to transition him to bollus feeds.

It wasn't working, and he would lay there gagging. Evan's stomach was small to

begin with, and between the Nissen and the g-tube, there just isn't much room

left. I would imagine Ben's is the same way. Stuffing him full really doesn't

help the stomach grow any faster--it's just going to grow along with him.

Hope this helps,

PS I recently visited Ben's page--he sure is a cutie. He and Evan look a lot

alike (Evan has a page now too: http://www.babysites.com/sites/skeybunny/

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Dear Amy-

The thing which stood out the most to me is that Ben is eight months old.

When was having extra drool from erupting teeth and swollen gums, he

would tolerate his feeds quite poorly - much like what you describe. Eight

months old was just after his front two lower central incisors erupted and

much of his mouth was swollen with impending teeth. What helped for us was

to give him a 2-6 ounce bolus of clear room temperature water when he first

awoke and then wait at least 20 minutes to give him his first feeding. It

seemed the water helped clear his stomach of any saliva and mucous he might

have built up in his tummy. We would do the same if he was congested. It

seemed (I theorize and speculate wildly here - but I gave it alot of thought

at the time!) that if there were oral and nasal secretions in his tummy,

they would float to the top during feeds and somehow trigger him to retch

and gag. Further validating of my theory is that at times during the water

bolus he would g-tube burp and all matter of bubbly slimy frothy stuff would

come up the tube (we feed by gravity). As I have seen said " your mileage

may vary " :o)

I hope this helps-

Best of everything-

Yuka

Trouble with feeds - vomiting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomiting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomiting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

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Dear Amy-

The thing which stood out the most to me is that Ben is eight months old.

When was having extra drool from erupting teeth and swollen gums, he

would tolerate his feeds quite poorly - much like what you describe. Eight

months old was just after his front two lower central incisors erupted and

much of his mouth was swollen with impending teeth. What helped for us was

to give him a 2-6 ounce bolus of clear room temperature water when he first

awoke and then wait at least 20 minutes to give him his first feeding. It

seemed the water helped clear his stomach of any saliva and mucous he might

have built up in his tummy. We would do the same if he was congested. It

seemed (I theorize and speculate wildly here - but I gave it alot of thought

at the time!) that if there were oral and nasal secretions in his tummy,

they would float to the top during feeds and somehow trigger him to retch

and gag. Further validating of my theory is that at times during the water

bolus he would g-tube burp and all matter of bubbly slimy frothy stuff would

come up the tube (we feed by gravity). As I have seen said " your mileage

may vary " :o)

I hope this helps-

Best of everything-

Yuka

Trouble with feeds - vomiting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomiting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomiting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

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Amy,

Our son is almost two and we had many vomiting/reflux issues. Many

we worked thru with trial and error:

May I ask:

1) How many feedings a day do you give him? How many cc's per feeding over

what time period and what is the duration between feedings?

2) has Ben had any upper respitory infections recently

an ear infection, cold, sinus infection?

3)How long has he been on Zantac? Has he ever been on Prevacid?

(mom to 2 years old 4/22/04, 5 1/2 years old, wife to Pat)

New York

Trouble with feeds - vomitting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Amy,

Our son is almost two and we had many vomiting/reflux issues. Many

we worked thru with trial and error:

May I ask:

1) How many feedings a day do you give him? How many cc's per feeding over

what time period and what is the duration between feedings?

2) has Ben had any upper respitory infections recently

an ear infection, cold, sinus infection?

3)How long has he been on Zantac? Has he ever been on Prevacid?

(mom to 2 years old 4/22/04, 5 1/2 years old, wife to Pat)

New York

Trouble with feeds - vomitting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Amy,

Max's nutritionist the other day emphasized to not go too fast with

feeds...Max right now is only on 54 ccs an hour, about 15 hours a day. Ben just

might not be ready for bolus feeds....or have you already tried that slow

before?

Miss talking with you...let's catch up soon! Love to you and Ben!!!

Key Storrs wrote:

Amy,

Your list looks pretty thorough, but have you tried venting his g-tube for

gas? Evan will make gagging noises when he needs to be vented (his Nissen must

be pretty tight, because we have yet to see him vomit).

I see you have tried slowing his feeds down some, but you may want to try

slowing them even more. We have also slowed Evan's feeding rate way down, and

this has helped a lot with the gagging. He gets 130 mL feeding at a rate of

~80-90 ml/hr, so a meal takes about 1 1/2-2 hrs. We went through a pretty

miserble time with Evan, where we were trying to transition him to bollus feeds.

It wasn't working, and he would lay there gagging. Evan's stomach was small to

begin with, and between the Nissen and the g-tube, there just isn't much room

left. I would imagine Ben's is the same way. Stuffing him full really doesn't

help the stomach grow any faster--it's just going to grow along with him.

Hope this helps,

PS I recently visited Ben's page--he sure is a cutie. He and Evan look a lot

alike (Evan has a page now too: http://www.babysites.com/sites/skeybunny/

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Amy,

Max's nutritionist the other day emphasized to not go too fast with

feeds...Max right now is only on 54 ccs an hour, about 15 hours a day. Ben just

might not be ready for bolus feeds....or have you already tried that slow

before?

Miss talking with you...let's catch up soon! Love to you and Ben!!!

Key Storrs wrote:

Amy,

Your list looks pretty thorough, but have you tried venting his g-tube for

gas? Evan will make gagging noises when he needs to be vented (his Nissen must

be pretty tight, because we have yet to see him vomit).

I see you have tried slowing his feeds down some, but you may want to try

slowing them even more. We have also slowed Evan's feeding rate way down, and

this has helped a lot with the gagging. He gets 130 mL feeding at a rate of

~80-90 ml/hr, so a meal takes about 1 1/2-2 hrs. We went through a pretty

miserble time with Evan, where we were trying to transition him to bollus feeds.

It wasn't working, and he would lay there gagging. Evan's stomach was small to

begin with, and between the Nissen and the g-tube, there just isn't much room

left. I would imagine Ben's is the same way. Stuffing him full really doesn't

help the stomach grow any faster--it's just going to grow along with him.

Hope this helps,

PS I recently visited Ben's page--he sure is a cutie. He and Evan look a lot

alike (Evan has a page now too: http://www.babysites.com/sites/skeybunny/

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Amy-

Colleen's info jogged my memory. Aubrie also had a huge difference

(positive change) with Nutramigen and Prilosec. Both were very helpful to

her when her reflux was at its worst.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Amy,

I am sorry Ben is suffering with the reflux/vomiting and I hope you find the

answers to make him feel better soon. I don't know if what I am telling you is

" mecically correct " but I can tell you of our own experiences and what has

worked for us.

Regarding the ear tubes and ear infections. Our son is currently going through

something similar to Ben with the ear tubes. One tube was taken out and the

other is not functioning properly. I am also working on scheduling to have them

replaced. His pediatrician feels that with one tube out and the other not in

place the Ciprodex is ineffective because the medication can not be carried by

tube to the inner ear to heal the infection. So he has prescribed antibiotic

for him to take to take by tube to heal this ear infection until we get new

tubes and then we will go back to using the Ciprodex.

It was my brother that mentioned one day that his son, my nephew (now 5) gets

nausua and vomits everytime he has an ear infection. It alerted me to notice a

similar pattern with my son. He just gets more mucosy/and I would guess it

agitates and adds to the reflux situation. He usually will have the

reflux/vomiting of mucous with an ear infection/upper respirtory infection and

goes back to doing a lot better when he is on the antibiotics and on the mend.

( also had some teething issues recently and Yuka's post was of great

interest and really seemed to make sense. I can see s recent problems

being a bit of both the teething and the ear infection)

Night feeding has always been more difficult. Funny you mention that Ben has

his 3am to 8am daily reflux routine everyother day. It sounds very familiar. We

use to do continous night feeds until about 6 months ago. He would usually have

problems between 2am and 7am. I don't know if it was just too much of a build up

of secretions or formula, but we did much better with giving him a break in the

middle of the continuous feed or when we cut out the feeding between 2am and 7am

the difficult period. He is now almost two and we give him 250ml over one hour.

5 times a day with a minimum of one hour between feeds. We feed between 8am and

9pm. We cut out night feeds altogeather. This works much better for him. He is

putting on weight nicely (30 lbs!) It has been a lot of trial and error taking

the full amout of mls he needed each day and dividing them overhis best times

for feeding and what his tolerance for number of mls per feed and over what

duration.

Re: Zantac and Prevacid. takes Prevacid and we have been doing ok with

it. I called our pharmacy and the pharmacist I spoke with indicated they are

different drugs, Prevacid is better for GERD and Prevacid is more recent to the

market?? I am still not clear on the specific differnce between these drugs,if

one is better than the other or what contradictions there should be considered.

I looked up both drugs but I am going to ask our GI the next time just out of

curiosity http://www.drugs.com/zantac.html

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/p/prevacid.html

Lastly, just in case it is of interest I bought a reflux matress for and

it seems to work well just wish I had it a year and a half ago

http://www.acidrefluxpillow.com/PTPDesign/toddler.html

Good luck! Please keep us updated with how he is doing.

(mom to 23 months, 5 1/2years, wife to Pat)

New York

Trouble with feeds - vomitting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Amy,

I am sorry Ben is suffering with the reflux/vomiting and I hope you find the

answers to make him feel better soon. I don't know if what I am telling you is

" mecically correct " but I can tell you of our own experiences and what has

worked for us.

Regarding the ear tubes and ear infections. Our son is currently going through

something similar to Ben with the ear tubes. One tube was taken out and the

other is not functioning properly. I am also working on scheduling to have them

replaced. His pediatrician feels that with one tube out and the other not in

place the Ciprodex is ineffective because the medication can not be carried by

tube to the inner ear to heal the infection. So he has prescribed antibiotic

for him to take to take by tube to heal this ear infection until we get new

tubes and then we will go back to using the Ciprodex.

It was my brother that mentioned one day that his son, my nephew (now 5) gets

nausua and vomits everytime he has an ear infection. It alerted me to notice a

similar pattern with my son. He just gets more mucosy/and I would guess it

agitates and adds to the reflux situation. He usually will have the

reflux/vomiting of mucous with an ear infection/upper respirtory infection and

goes back to doing a lot better when he is on the antibiotics and on the mend.

( also had some teething issues recently and Yuka's post was of great

interest and really seemed to make sense. I can see s recent problems

being a bit of both the teething and the ear infection)

Night feeding has always been more difficult. Funny you mention that Ben has

his 3am to 8am daily reflux routine everyother day. It sounds very familiar. We

use to do continous night feeds until about 6 months ago. He would usually have

problems between 2am and 7am. I don't know if it was just too much of a build up

of secretions or formula, but we did much better with giving him a break in the

middle of the continuous feed or when we cut out the feeding between 2am and 7am

the difficult period. He is now almost two and we give him 250ml over one hour.

5 times a day with a minimum of one hour between feeds. We feed between 8am and

9pm. We cut out night feeds altogeather. This works much better for him. He is

putting on weight nicely (30 lbs!) It has been a lot of trial and error taking

the full amout of mls he needed each day and dividing them overhis best times

for feeding and what his tolerance for number of mls per feed and over what

duration.

Re: Zantac and Prevacid. takes Prevacid and we have been doing ok with

it. I called our pharmacy and the pharmacist I spoke with indicated they are

different drugs, Prevacid is better for GERD and Prevacid is more recent to the

market?? I am still not clear on the specific differnce between these drugs,if

one is better than the other or what contradictions there should be considered.

I looked up both drugs but I am going to ask our GI the next time just out of

curiosity http://www.drugs.com/zantac.html

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/p/prevacid.html

Lastly, just in case it is of interest I bought a reflux matress for and

it seems to work well just wish I had it a year and a half ago

http://www.acidrefluxpillow.com/PTPDesign/toddler.html

Good luck! Please keep us updated with how he is doing.

(mom to 23 months, 5 1/2years, wife to Pat)

New York

Trouble with feeds - vomitting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Amy,

I am sorry Ben is suffering with the reflux/vomiting and I hope you find the

answers to make him feel better soon. I don't know if what I am telling you is

" mecically correct " but I can tell you of our own experiences and what has

worked for us.

Regarding the ear tubes and ear infections. Our son is currently going through

something similar to Ben with the ear tubes. One tube was taken out and the

other is not functioning properly. I am also working on scheduling to have them

replaced. His pediatrician feels that with one tube out and the other not in

place the Ciprodex is ineffective because the medication can not be carried by

tube to the inner ear to heal the infection. So he has prescribed antibiotic

for him to take to take by tube to heal this ear infection until we get new

tubes and then we will go back to using the Ciprodex.

It was my brother that mentioned one day that his son, my nephew (now 5) gets

nausua and vomits everytime he has an ear infection. It alerted me to notice a

similar pattern with my son. He just gets more mucosy/and I would guess it

agitates and adds to the reflux situation. He usually will have the

reflux/vomiting of mucous with an ear infection/upper respirtory infection and

goes back to doing a lot better when he is on the antibiotics and on the mend.

( also had some teething issues recently and Yuka's post was of great

interest and really seemed to make sense. I can see s recent problems

being a bit of both the teething and the ear infection)

Night feeding has always been more difficult. Funny you mention that Ben has

his 3am to 8am daily reflux routine everyother day. It sounds very familiar. We

use to do continous night feeds until about 6 months ago. He would usually have

problems between 2am and 7am. I don't know if it was just too much of a build up

of secretions or formula, but we did much better with giving him a break in the

middle of the continuous feed or when we cut out the feeding between 2am and 7am

the difficult period. He is now almost two and we give him 250ml over one hour.

5 times a day with a minimum of one hour between feeds. We feed between 8am and

9pm. We cut out night feeds altogeather. This works much better for him. He is

putting on weight nicely (30 lbs!) It has been a lot of trial and error taking

the full amout of mls he needed each day and dividing them overhis best times

for feeding and what his tolerance for number of mls per feed and over what

duration.

Re: Zantac and Prevacid. takes Prevacid and we have been doing ok with

it. I called our pharmacy and the pharmacist I spoke with indicated they are

different drugs, Prevacid is better for GERD and Prevacid is more recent to the

market?? I am still not clear on the specific differnce between these drugs,if

one is better than the other or what contradictions there should be considered.

I looked up both drugs but I am going to ask our GI the next time just out of

curiosity http://www.drugs.com/zantac.html

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/p/prevacid.html

Lastly, just in case it is of interest I bought a reflux matress for and

it seems to work well just wish I had it a year and a half ago

http://www.acidrefluxpillow.com/PTPDesign/toddler.html

Good luck! Please keep us updated with how he is doing.

(mom to 23 months, 5 1/2years, wife to Pat)

New York

Trouble with feeds - vomitting daily

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

>

>

>

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My Daughter is now 10 monthes old. She had a NG tube until she was 5

monthes old, then they put in a Gtube at 6 monthes old but she was

still refluxing like crazy until finally at 8 monthes old I screamed

and begged the doctors to put a GJ tube in (very conterversial) but

for my daughter it was the best thing ever. It gave her a change to

grow a little and guess what.... she is 10 monthes old and no longer

needs either !!! That little break her body got by not having to

handle the vomiting with the GJ tube allowed her to grow properly and

out grow the reflux (mostly)She completly drinks everything and eats

everything! There's hope! Hang in there! You'll get allot of

different ideas thats for sure. Some people have done the

fundoplication and I heard that's pretty good too but it is a very

big sergury and doesn't always work. Keep that in mind. Some people

don't like the idea of being on a pump for soo many hours with the GJ

tube and I totally agree but for me thank god it was only temperary

btu you know what... I couldn't take seeing my daughter vomit anymore

so the duration on the pump was worth it. Good luck !

>

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and

urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

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My Daughter is now 10 monthes old. She had a NG tube until she was 5

monthes old, then they put in a Gtube at 6 monthes old but she was

still refluxing like crazy until finally at 8 monthes old I screamed

and begged the doctors to put a GJ tube in (very conterversial) but

for my daughter it was the best thing ever. It gave her a change to

grow a little and guess what.... she is 10 monthes old and no longer

needs either !!! That little break her body got by not having to

handle the vomiting with the GJ tube allowed her to grow properly and

out grow the reflux (mostly)She completly drinks everything and eats

everything! There's hope! Hang in there! You'll get allot of

different ideas thats for sure. Some people have done the

fundoplication and I heard that's pretty good too but it is a very

big sergury and doesn't always work. Keep that in mind. Some people

don't like the idea of being on a pump for soo many hours with the GJ

tube and I totally agree but for me thank god it was only temperary

btu you know what... I couldn't take seeing my daughter vomit anymore

so the duration on the pump was worth it. Good luck !

>

> My 8 month old son, Ben (Ben has CHARGE, a trach, Nissen, GTube,

> severe hearing loss, small kidneys, enlarged ventricles, and

urinary

> trach reflux)started having vomitting issues again. (Last time it

> was related to his GTube being in too far).

>

> Ben started heaving a month ago after his daytime feeds (given via

> GTube over 30 minutes over a pump)until he would finally throw up.

> He would then lay in the bed super still for about 20 minutes

> afterwards like he didn't feel good. After about 20 minutes, he

> would then kick and play like he was ok. We have talked to many,

> many doctors and everything they have suggested hasn't made a

> difference. Ben is now vomitting once during his daytime feeds and

> every now and then in the morning once he's almost done with his

> continuous feeds.

>

> We have tried:

> 1. Feeding him over an hour during the day

> 2. Increasing his Zantac

> 3. Propping him during feeds

> 4. Giving him nebulizer treatments every 3-4 hours

> 5. Switching food to Enfamil AR (Acid Reflux)

> 6. Feeding him less during the day

> 7. Checking his Nissen to make sure it is in tack

> 8. Chest Xrays

>

> Has anyone gone through this? Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated. Thank you.

> Amy Russo

>

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Amy-

After the HANDLE training, I think there could be something neurological

causing the relationship between ear infections and vomiting. Given that

our kids' often have misplaced nerves and that their systems often have

unusual responses to all kinds of stimuli, it doesn't seem like much of a

stretch to think that the mess in the ear could be causing a vomit

situation. I had forgotten that Aubrie sometimes vomits with an ear

infection. It's not always, but often enough to know that it's related.

Keep in mind that this is all layman's theorizing.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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eaqther all of that or it cold be sileent reflux kim if ur there is that wat

u called it once its not the nisses but its stuff ti other words its dumping

sycrome i have that and a few on here do hgus ellen

>

> Amy-

> After the HANDLE training, I think there could be something neurological

> causing the relationship between ear infections and vomiting. Given that

> our kids' often have misplaced nerves and that their systems often have

> unusual responses to all kinds of stimuli, it doesn't seem like much of a

> stretch to think that the mess in the ear could be causing a vomit

> situation. I had forgotten that Aubrie sometimes vomits with an ear

> infection. It's not always, but often enough to know that it's related.

> Keep in mind that this is all layman's theorizing.

>

> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>

>

>

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> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

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eaqther all of that or it cold be sileent reflux kim if ur there is that wat

u called it once its not the nisses but its stuff ti other words its dumping

sycrome i have that and a few on here do hgus ellen

>

> Amy-

> After the HANDLE training, I think there could be something neurological

> causing the relationship between ear infections and vomiting. Given that

> our kids' often have misplaced nerves and that their systems often have

> unusual responses to all kinds of stimuli, it doesn't seem like much of a

> stretch to think that the mess in the ear could be causing a vomit

> situation. I had forgotten that Aubrie sometimes vomits with an ear

> infection. It's not always, but often enough to know that it's related.

> Keep in mind that this is all layman's theorizing.

>

> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

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Amy,

Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our peditrician). I

see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been checked for an infection lately

(with a catheter sample)?

Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems really fast.

We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan (sometimes even 100 ml/hr is too

fast). At night we go down to 60-70 ml/hr--anything faster just eventually

catches up with him and makes him gag.

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Amy,

Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our peditrician). I

see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been checked for an infection lately

(with a catheter sample)?

Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems really fast.

We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan (sometimes even 100 ml/hr is too

fast). At night we go down to 60-70 ml/hr--anything faster just eventually

catches up with him and makes him gag.

(mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

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Amy,

Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our peditrician). I

see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been checked for an infection lately

(with a catheter sample)?

Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems really fast.

We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan (sometimes even 100 ml/hr is too

fast). At night we go down to 60-70 ml/hr--anything faster just eventually

catches up with him and makes him gag.

(mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

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140 to fast for me though i have mannaged it for short periods of time usual

100 and fifty at night

>

> Amy,

>

> Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our

> peditrician). I see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been checked for an

> infection lately (with a catheter sample)?

>

> Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems really

> fast. We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan (sometimes even 100

> ml/hr is too fast). At night we go down to 60-70 ml/hr--anything faster

> just eventually catches up with him and makes him gag.

>

> (mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

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140 to fast for me though i have mannaged it for short periods of time usual

100 and fifty at night

>

> Amy,

>

> Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our

> peditrician). I see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been checked for an

> infection lately (with a catheter sample)?

>

> Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems really

> fast. We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan (sometimes even 100

> ml/hr is too fast). At night we go down to 60-70 ml/hr--anything faster

> just eventually catches up with him and makes him gag.

>

> (mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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> Messenger with Voice.

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140 to fast for me though i have mannaged it for short periods of time usual

100 and fifty at night

>

> Amy,

>

> Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our

> peditrician). I see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been checked for an

> infection lately (with a catheter sample)?

>

> Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems really

> fast. We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan (sometimes even 100

> ml/hr is too fast). At night we go down to 60-70 ml/hr--anything faster

> just eventually catches up with him and makes him gag.

>

> (mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

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Daily vomits used to be usual occurance for Amelie, we are maxed on

all reflux drugs although the GJ tube appears to have improved her

reflux as we are no longer seeing anything rush down her nose, this

is my reason for hanging on with disassociation.

feed issues, she has 54mls pump fed over 20 hours and two small two

hour breaks in a 24 hour period.

Amelie will retch even when her meds are put in it has to be very

slow, its the part of charge i wish we could resolve, and that way

her lungs would get a break.

love les x

>

> Amy,

>

> Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our

peditrician). I see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been

checked for an infection lately (with a catheter sample)?

>

> Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems

really fast. We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan

(sometimes even 100 ml/hr is too fast). At night we go down to 60-

70 ml/hr--anything faster just eventually catches up with him and

makes him gag.

>

> (mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

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Daily vomits used to be usual occurance for Amelie, we are maxed on

all reflux drugs although the GJ tube appears to have improved her

reflux as we are no longer seeing anything rush down her nose, this

is my reason for hanging on with disassociation.

feed issues, she has 54mls pump fed over 20 hours and two small two

hour breaks in a 24 hour period.

Amelie will retch even when her meds are put in it has to be very

slow, its the part of charge i wish we could resolve, and that way

her lungs would get a break.

love les x

>

> Amy,

>

> Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our

peditrician). I see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been

checked for an infection lately (with a catheter sample)?

>

> Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems

really fast. We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan

(sometimes even 100 ml/hr is too fast). At night we go down to 60-

70 ml/hr--anything faster just eventually catches up with him and

makes him gag.

>

> (mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Daily vomits used to be usual occurance for Amelie, we are maxed on

all reflux drugs although the GJ tube appears to have improved her

reflux as we are no longer seeing anything rush down her nose, this

is my reason for hanging on with disassociation.

feed issues, she has 54mls pump fed over 20 hours and two small two

hour breaks in a 24 hour period.

Amelie will retch even when her meds are put in it has to be very

slow, its the part of charge i wish we could resolve, and that way

her lungs would get a break.

love les x

>

> Amy,

>

> Urinary tract infections will also cause vomiting (per our

peditrician). I see Ben also has urinary reflux--has he been

checked for an infection lately (with a catheter sample)?

>

> Looking at Ben's feeding rates during the day--140 ml/hr seems

really fast. We can't go any faster than 110 ml/hr with Evan

(sometimes even 100 ml/hr is too fast). At night we go down to 60-

70 ml/hr--anything faster just eventually catches up with him and

makes him gag.

>

> (mom to Evan 8.5 mos)

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using

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>

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