Re: urgent - antiarrhythmic drugs survey

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for pointing out ' Data Base. It is a worthy effort, but it is

> based on a tiny statistical ensemble - only about 150 people.

Hi Joe, see my other post about the database - there's 467 entries now but

I agree that the data is both small and statistically biased.

> My gripe and query were directed primarily at the medical profession. Out

> there are tens or even hundreds of thousands people who share our " fate " .

>

> Yes, the effect of medicine is to a significant extent, but not wholly, a

> matter of individual reaction. When you have a large statistical body, clear

> patterns begin to emerge. For example, you may find that of those taking

> drug X 70% find it effective, and of those taking drug Y only 45% find it

> effective. In an appropriate data base,

>

> This is a significant finding. You could have further data on those who

> tried both drug X and Y, etc.

>

> The key lies in numbers, but the only guys who could assemble such a data

> base are the docs. Have they done that? Is there such a study?

you might like to do searches on the 'Framingham Study' and AFFIRM but

more generally see the reference section to the afib guidlines I posted

earlier

http://www.acc.org/clinical/guidelines/atrial_fib/references.htm

much of the current protocol is based on the macro research you are

asking for. Similar studies on ablation are only just emerging because

of the newness of the procedure.

this page may also be of interest..

http://www.centerwatch.com/patient/studies/cat243.html

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D

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for pointing out ' Data Base. It is a worthy effort, but it is

> based on a tiny statistical ensemble - only about 150 people.

Hi Joe, see my other post about the database - there's 467 entries now but

I agree that the data is both small and statistically biased.

> My gripe and query were directed primarily at the medical profession. Out

> there are tens or even hundreds of thousands people who share our " fate " .

>

> Yes, the effect of medicine is to a significant extent, but not wholly, a

> matter of individual reaction. When you have a large statistical body, clear

> patterns begin to emerge. For example, you may find that of those taking

> drug X 70% find it effective, and of those taking drug Y only 45% find it

> effective. In an appropriate data base,

>

> This is a significant finding. You could have further data on those who

> tried both drug X and Y, etc.

>

> The key lies in numbers, but the only guys who could assemble such a data

> base are the docs. Have they done that? Is there such a study?

you might like to do searches on the 'Framingham Study' and AFFIRM but

more generally see the reference section to the afib guidlines I posted

earlier

http://www.acc.org/clinical/guidelines/atrial_fib/references.htm

much of the current protocol is based on the macro research you are

asking for. Similar studies on ablation are only just emerging because

of the newness of the procedure.

this page may also be of interest..

http://www.centerwatch.com/patient/studies/cat243.html

--

D

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for pointing out ' Data Base. It is a worthy effort, but it is

> based on a tiny statistical ensemble - only about 150 people.

Hi Joe, see my other post about the database - there's 467 entries now but

I agree that the data is both small and statistically biased.

> My gripe and query were directed primarily at the medical profession. Out

> there are tens or even hundreds of thousands people who share our " fate " .

>

> Yes, the effect of medicine is to a significant extent, but not wholly, a

> matter of individual reaction. When you have a large statistical body, clear

> patterns begin to emerge. For example, you may find that of those taking

> drug X 70% find it effective, and of those taking drug Y only 45% find it

> effective. In an appropriate data base,

>

> This is a significant finding. You could have further data on those who

> tried both drug X and Y, etc.

>

> The key lies in numbers, but the only guys who could assemble such a data

> base are the docs. Have they done that? Is there such a study?

you might like to do searches on the 'Framingham Study' and AFFIRM but

more generally see the reference section to the afib guidlines I posted

earlier

http://www.acc.org/clinical/guidelines/atrial_fib/references.htm

much of the current protocol is based on the macro research you are

asking for. Similar studies on ablation are only just emerging because

of the newness of the procedure.

this page may also be of interest..

http://www.centerwatch.com/patient/studies/cat243.html

--

D