Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sellmak@... writes: > I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. Kirk, I wrote a song called " I got Them A Fib Blues " . I want to find out from Bobby how I can put it on the net or someplace people can hear it or burn it to CD. I a guitar player in a Blues/Rock band for fun. Rich O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sellmak@... writes: > I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. Kirk, I wrote a song called " I got Them A Fib Blues " . I want to find out from Bobby how I can put it on the net or someplace people can hear it or burn it to CD. I a guitar player in a Blues/Rock band for fun. Rich O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sellmak@... writes: > I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. Kirk, I wrote a song called " I got Them A Fib Blues " . I want to find out from Bobby how I can put it on the net or someplace people can hear it or burn it to CD. I a guitar player in a Blues/Rock band for fun. Rich O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. Since I'm in and out of a-fib just about every day, I don't worry about when the next one will hit. I just enjoy my a-fib-free time. It doesn't help that your doctors are telling you to just live with it, but I've found that when I'm down, I can feel better if I give myself a little peptalk. I sometimes have to do this a couple of times a day, but it does help me. If you're going into depression, you might want to talk to your doctor to see what he recommends. > I'm sure this is a commom complaint, but I need some encouragement > this morning! > > I had 10 blissful days of NSR and I thought maybe I was on a roll, > when last night, I had a fib attack! Now I must admit, I ate a large > frozen yogurt with tons of fudge sauce on it, and chocolate is a > trigger for me..... > > But after I went back into NSR after 10 hours of fib, I have a real > battle with depression! Anyone else go through this? Is it common? > Yes I take coumadin, and the 10 hours were passed mostly by me > sleeping, but the constant worry that it will come back, is something > difficult to deal with. > > I've had this for 15 years but for most of that time it was very in- > frequent, and suddenly this year it is happening 5-6 times a month, > and then it goes away for months again. Very un-nerving! > > I just had an echocardiogram and there were no changes, so that was > good, as I have an aortic valve leak, very small. I will see the > cardio on friday, and not sure what to ask for or say? His attitude > has been ,live with it! I have seen two cardios and one EP and they > all basically say the same thing, I am not ready for an ablation, so > take the coumadin and live with it. > > Thanks for letting me vent my frustration, MandyofCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. Since I'm in and out of a-fib just about every day, I don't worry about when the next one will hit. I just enjoy my a-fib-free time. It doesn't help that your doctors are telling you to just live with it, but I've found that when I'm down, I can feel better if I give myself a little peptalk. I sometimes have to do this a couple of times a day, but it does help me. If you're going into depression, you might want to talk to your doctor to see what he recommends. > I'm sure this is a commom complaint, but I need some encouragement > this morning! > > I had 10 blissful days of NSR and I thought maybe I was on a roll, > when last night, I had a fib attack! Now I must admit, I ate a large > frozen yogurt with tons of fudge sauce on it, and chocolate is a > trigger for me..... > > But after I went back into NSR after 10 hours of fib, I have a real > battle with depression! Anyone else go through this? Is it common? > Yes I take coumadin, and the 10 hours were passed mostly by me > sleeping, but the constant worry that it will come back, is something > difficult to deal with. > > I've had this for 15 years but for most of that time it was very in- > frequent, and suddenly this year it is happening 5-6 times a month, > and then it goes away for months again. Very un-nerving! > > I just had an echocardiogram and there were no changes, so that was > good, as I have an aortic valve leak, very small. I will see the > cardio on friday, and not sure what to ask for or say? His attitude > has been ,live with it! I have seen two cardios and one EP and they > all basically say the same thing, I am not ready for an ablation, so > take the coumadin and live with it. > > Thanks for letting me vent my frustration, MandyofCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 --- The depression usually lifts after a day or so in NSR, but the anxiety of when the next one will come, sometimes gets to me. It is hard to plan your life with that hanging over your head, but I do manage to lead a very busy and full life in spite of it! MandyofCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 go through this? Is it common? :::Raising hand::: I get really depressed when I think I am having a couple of good days and then bam either my heart will skip beats all day long or I will have a bout of Afib. It really stinks! I start envying my family because they don't have to deal with this. I get anxiety over it and live every day and moment in fear of it striking again. SO know you are not alone. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 go through this? Is it common? :::Raising hand::: I get really depressed when I think I am having a couple of good days and then bam either my heart will skip beats all day long or I will have a bout of Afib. It really stinks! I start envying my family because they don't have to deal with this. I get anxiety over it and live every day and moment in fear of it striking again. SO know you are not alone. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 go through this? Is it common? :::Raising hand::: I get really depressed when I think I am having a couple of good days and then bam either my heart will skip beats all day long or I will have a bout of Afib. It really stinks! I start envying my family because they don't have to deal with this. I get anxiety over it and live every day and moment in fear of it striking again. SO know you are not alone. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Same here, Mandy. I've always been a bit of an up-and-down person mood wise, but having AFIB just makes the swings a lot worse. I had a couple of good weeks, had a good attitude, felt like I had a 'plan' -- and then an episode of afib (or something or another - probably was bigeminy PACs according to my EPs best guess) had me depressed. Got my mood back up and then my ankles swelled up (EP was unconcerned and it went away by lowering my Cardizem) which scared me a LOT. Now I sit here in a middling mood wondering 'what next'??? And wondering how horrible the next things will be... I've read that doctors need to realize that " heart patients " often struggle with anxiety and depression which can be as debilitating as the actual heart diagnosis! I think the idea of " treating the WHOLE patient " really applies here. My GP has been sympathetic, my EP seems a bit out of the loop on that. BUT, I so far trust my EP medically speaking, so that's okay. If I get really stressed out or depressed, I might just talk to my GP first... Hope you can find someone in your medical corner to at least *hear* your issues and have you feel heard. In the meantime, as you can now tell, lots of us on the yahoo list have the same issues with depression/anxiety/fear and the up-and-down rollercoaster. Joscelyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Same here, Mandy. I've always been a bit of an up-and-down person mood wise, but having AFIB just makes the swings a lot worse. I had a couple of good weeks, had a good attitude, felt like I had a 'plan' -- and then an episode of afib (or something or another - probably was bigeminy PACs according to my EPs best guess) had me depressed. Got my mood back up and then my ankles swelled up (EP was unconcerned and it went away by lowering my Cardizem) which scared me a LOT. Now I sit here in a middling mood wondering 'what next'??? And wondering how horrible the next things will be... I've read that doctors need to realize that " heart patients " often struggle with anxiety and depression which can be as debilitating as the actual heart diagnosis! I think the idea of " treating the WHOLE patient " really applies here. My GP has been sympathetic, my EP seems a bit out of the loop on that. BUT, I so far trust my EP medically speaking, so that's okay. If I get really stressed out or depressed, I might just talk to my GP first... Hope you can find someone in your medical corner to at least *hear* your issues and have you feel heard. In the meantime, as you can now tell, lots of us on the yahoo list have the same issues with depression/anxiety/fear and the up-and-down rollercoaster. Joscelyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Same here, Mandy. I've always been a bit of an up-and-down person mood wise, but having AFIB just makes the swings a lot worse. I had a couple of good weeks, had a good attitude, felt like I had a 'plan' -- and then an episode of afib (or something or another - probably was bigeminy PACs according to my EPs best guess) had me depressed. Got my mood back up and then my ankles swelled up (EP was unconcerned and it went away by lowering my Cardizem) which scared me a LOT. Now I sit here in a middling mood wondering 'what next'??? And wondering how horrible the next things will be... I've read that doctors need to realize that " heart patients " often struggle with anxiety and depression which can be as debilitating as the actual heart diagnosis! I think the idea of " treating the WHOLE patient " really applies here. My GP has been sympathetic, my EP seems a bit out of the loop on that. BUT, I so far trust my EP medically speaking, so that's okay. If I get really stressed out or depressed, I might just talk to my GP first... Hope you can find someone in your medical corner to at least *hear* your issues and have you feel heard. In the meantime, as you can now tell, lots of us on the yahoo list have the same issues with depression/anxiety/fear and the up-and-down rollercoaster. Joscelyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Does it have an erratic beat? > In a message dated 8/4/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > sellmak@o... writes: > > > I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. > > Kirk, I wrote a song called " I got Them A Fib Blues " . I want to find out from > Bobby how I can put it on the net or someplace people can hear it or burn it > to CD. > I a guitar player in a Blues/Rock band for fun. > Rich O > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Does it have an erratic beat? > In a message dated 8/4/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > sellmak@o... writes: > > > I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. > > Kirk, I wrote a song called " I got Them A Fib Blues " . I want to find out from > Bobby how I can put it on the net or someplace people can hear it or burn it > to CD. > I a guitar player in a Blues/Rock band for fun. > Rich O > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Does it have an erratic beat? > In a message dated 8/4/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > sellmak@o... writes: > > > I get down when I'm in a-fib, but I feel terrific after I convert. > > Kirk, I wrote a song called " I got Them A Fib Blues " . I want to find out from > Bobby how I can put it on the net or someplace people can hear it or burn it > to CD. > I a guitar player in a Blues/Rock band for fun. > Rich O > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 > Does it have an erratic beat? ************** That was funny, Kirk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 > Does it have an erratic beat? ************** That was funny, Kirk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I'm sure a recording of my a-fib heartbeats could take the place of the drums. > > Does it have an erratic beat? > ************** > That was funny, Kirk! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I'm sure a recording of my a-fib heartbeats could take the place of the drums. > > Does it have an erratic beat? > ************** > That was funny, Kirk! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/2004 11:25:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, joscelynblack@... writes: > Got > my mood back up and then my ankles swelled up (EP was unconcerned and > it went away by lowering my Cardizem) which scared me a LOT. Now I > sit here in a middling mood wondering 'what next'??? And wondering > how horrible the next things will be... > > Joscelyn, I understand how you feel, but I think it's all a matter of perspective. My ankles have been swelling ever since I started Verapamil, but as in the case of afib, I figure it won't kill me and I could have much worse problems. Also, the depression situation is just the opposite for me. Whenever I have had an afib episode that lasted more than a few hours, I would feel depressed at times while in afib. Whenever I have converted to sinus, the depression has vanished and I become ecstatic, singing " I Got Rhythm! " :-) I try to forget the future and enjoy the moment. That attitude works for me, and it may be helping to keep me out of afib. According to my cardiologist, hope and optimism are very good for the heart, and pessimism has the opposite effect. So when I start wondering how long my present freedom from afib will last and thinking that I might wind up in permanent afib because it's in my genes, I try to put those thoughts out of my mind and focus on how great it is to be in sinus. Sometimes I take my pulse and just revel in the wonderful predictability of those beats. I actually feel jubilant the day after an afib episode because I look on my return to sinus as proof that it's hard for my heart to stay in afib and that, therefore, it's unlikely that I will wind up in permanent afib as my older brother has done. I will treasure and savor all the sinus moments I can hoard because I figure that their cumulative effect is prevention of remodeling of the heart and, therefore, prevention of permanent afib, if there is any truth in that old saying: afib begets afib. When you're in sinus, you are not begetting afib, and that in itself is positive, in my opinion. So try to enjoy every moment of sinus you can. Live for the moment! Best wishes, in sinus in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/2004 11:25:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, joscelynblack@... writes: > Got > my mood back up and then my ankles swelled up (EP was unconcerned and > it went away by lowering my Cardizem) which scared me a LOT. Now I > sit here in a middling mood wondering 'what next'??? And wondering > how horrible the next things will be... > > Joscelyn, I understand how you feel, but I think it's all a matter of perspective. My ankles have been swelling ever since I started Verapamil, but as in the case of afib, I figure it won't kill me and I could have much worse problems. Also, the depression situation is just the opposite for me. Whenever I have had an afib episode that lasted more than a few hours, I would feel depressed at times while in afib. Whenever I have converted to sinus, the depression has vanished and I become ecstatic, singing " I Got Rhythm! " :-) I try to forget the future and enjoy the moment. That attitude works for me, and it may be helping to keep me out of afib. According to my cardiologist, hope and optimism are very good for the heart, and pessimism has the opposite effect. So when I start wondering how long my present freedom from afib will last and thinking that I might wind up in permanent afib because it's in my genes, I try to put those thoughts out of my mind and focus on how great it is to be in sinus. Sometimes I take my pulse and just revel in the wonderful predictability of those beats. I actually feel jubilant the day after an afib episode because I look on my return to sinus as proof that it's hard for my heart to stay in afib and that, therefore, it's unlikely that I will wind up in permanent afib as my older brother has done. I will treasure and savor all the sinus moments I can hoard because I figure that their cumulative effect is prevention of remodeling of the heart and, therefore, prevention of permanent afib, if there is any truth in that old saying: afib begets afib. When you're in sinus, you are not begetting afib, and that in itself is positive, in my opinion. So try to enjoy every moment of sinus you can. Live for the moment! Best wishes, in sinus in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/2004 11:25:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, joscelynblack@... writes: > Got > my mood back up and then my ankles swelled up (EP was unconcerned and > it went away by lowering my Cardizem) which scared me a LOT. Now I > sit here in a middling mood wondering 'what next'??? And wondering > how horrible the next things will be... > > Joscelyn, I understand how you feel, but I think it's all a matter of perspective. My ankles have been swelling ever since I started Verapamil, but as in the case of afib, I figure it won't kill me and I could have much worse problems. Also, the depression situation is just the opposite for me. Whenever I have had an afib episode that lasted more than a few hours, I would feel depressed at times while in afib. Whenever I have converted to sinus, the depression has vanished and I become ecstatic, singing " I Got Rhythm! " :-) I try to forget the future and enjoy the moment. That attitude works for me, and it may be helping to keep me out of afib. According to my cardiologist, hope and optimism are very good for the heart, and pessimism has the opposite effect. So when I start wondering how long my present freedom from afib will last and thinking that I might wind up in permanent afib because it's in my genes, I try to put those thoughts out of my mind and focus on how great it is to be in sinus. Sometimes I take my pulse and just revel in the wonderful predictability of those beats. I actually feel jubilant the day after an afib episode because I look on my return to sinus as proof that it's hard for my heart to stay in afib and that, therefore, it's unlikely that I will wind up in permanent afib as my older brother has done. I will treasure and savor all the sinus moments I can hoard because I figure that their cumulative effect is prevention of remodeling of the heart and, therefore, prevention of permanent afib, if there is any truth in that old saying: afib begets afib. When you're in sinus, you are not begetting afib, and that in itself is positive, in my opinion. So try to enjoy every moment of sinus you can. Live for the moment! Best wishes, in sinus in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 > I'm sure this is a commom complaint, but I need some encouragement > this morning! > > I had 10 blissful days of NSR and I thought maybe I was on a roll, > when last night, I had a fib attack! Now I must admit, I ate a large > frozen yogurt with tons of fudge sauce on it, and chocolate is a > trigger for me..... > Mandy, My guess is it was the frozen yogurt, as cold stuff is a notorious trigger. I also get depressed about afib, but it helps me to avoid triggers. Every time my hand reaches for ice cream, etc. I remember the anxiety I'll feel if afib starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 > I'm sure this is a commom complaint, but I need some encouragement > this morning! > > I had 10 blissful days of NSR and I thought maybe I was on a roll, > when last night, I had a fib attack! Now I must admit, I ate a large > frozen yogurt with tons of fudge sauce on it, and chocolate is a > trigger for me..... > Mandy, My guess is it was the frozen yogurt, as cold stuff is a notorious trigger. I also get depressed about afib, but it helps me to avoid triggers. Every time my hand reaches for ice cream, etc. I remember the anxiety I'll feel if afib starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 > I'm sure this is a commom complaint, but I need some encouragement > this morning! > > I had 10 blissful days of NSR and I thought maybe I was on a roll, > when last night, I had a fib attack! Now I must admit, I ate a large > frozen yogurt with tons of fudge sauce on it, and chocolate is a > trigger for me..... > Mandy, My guess is it was the frozen yogurt, as cold stuff is a notorious trigger. I also get depressed about afib, but it helps me to avoid triggers. Every time my hand reaches for ice cream, etc. I remember the anxiety I'll feel if afib starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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