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Welcome We all know what you are going through. Did you go through Chemotherapy. My name is Malone and an 18 year survivor.nana112956 wrote: Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy goin though all this alone.

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This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have

a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called

in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as

it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie__________________________________________________

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Tobie,

First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers.

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This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie

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I'm glad you joined us, Nana.

Love to us all,

--

Ogut

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Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another

and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That

my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i

joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy

goin though all this alone.

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Tobie wrote: " said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2

times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it

matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!! "

______________

Hello Tobie,

Welcome, and keep talking with us. You are 100% beautiful, 100% fully human.

Maybe you can speak with a therapist and discuss self-esteem issues. I am sure

many of the women on this list have struggled with similar issues.

Like I said, keep talking with us. We see your beauty.

Love to us all,

--

Ogut

The Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It

-------------- Original message ----------------------

> This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays

i

> didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of

> changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the

> answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a

> grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and

> now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my

> kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was " i dont want

> to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to

> face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3

> surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but

my

> bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who

> was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was

there.

> all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my

> own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he

> has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he

should

> do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry

> him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to

be

> strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter

but

> i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a

> freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole

> women not a half of one!!!

>

> Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your

post.

> I had a lumpectomy in 2004.

> Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But

> always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called

> in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2

> suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I

> can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and

> lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That

> your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from

> everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer

> survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its

> not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why

> but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as

> we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old

> daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I

> am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my

> husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing

> up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it

> may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my

> prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your

> feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty

> much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have

> a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In breastcancer2 , " nana112956 " <nana112956@y...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one

> another

> > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys

> done.That

> > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats

> why i

> > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not

> easy

> > goin though all this alone.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Tobie wrote: " said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2

times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it

matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!! "

______________

Hello Tobie,

Welcome, and keep talking with us. You are 100% beautiful, 100% fully human.

Maybe you can speak with a therapist and discuss self-esteem issues. I am sure

many of the women on this list have struggled with similar issues.

Like I said, keep talking with us. We see your beauty.

Love to us all,

--

Ogut

The Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It

-------------- Original message ----------------------

> This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays

i

> didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of

> changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the

> answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a

> grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and

> now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my

> kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was " i dont want

> to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to

> face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3

> surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but

my

> bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who

> was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was

there.

> all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my

> own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he

> has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he

should

> do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry

> him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to

be

> strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter

but

> i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a

> freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole

> women not a half of one!!!

>

> Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your

post.

> I had a lumpectomy in 2004.

> Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But

> always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called

> in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2

> suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I

> can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and

> lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That

> your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from

> everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer

> survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its

> not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why

> but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as

> we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old

> daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I

> am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my

> husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing

> up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it

> may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my

> prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your

> feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty

> much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have

> a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In breastcancer2 , " nana112956 " <nana112956@y...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one

> another

> > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys

> done.That

> > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats

> why i

> > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not

> easy

> > goin though all this alone.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you lisaogut@... wrote: I'm glad you joined us, Nana.Love to us all, -- OgutThe Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It -------------- Original message ----------------------From: "nana112956"

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hello again , and tks for listenin.it helps that someone knows the same things i am going though.Yes i plan on talkin to a dr about this. i know depressition is setting in.I went to the dr yesterday to see what else needs to be done next with me. And i ended up sitting 2 hrs and not seeing him at all. these r cancer drs and why do they makes us wait.i could understand if they was busy but they wasnt. i finally walk off and left and thats not good cause that puts my life on the line. i plan on findin at different dr now but since this all started a yr ago it seamd they dont care or they r to busy with other cancer people and this is a great hospital in ia.i just dont understand . why drs cant have feeling for us to.lisaogut@... wrote: Tobie wrote: "said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr

now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!"______________Hello Tobie, Welcome, and keep talking with us. You are 100% beautiful, 100% fully human. Maybe you can speak with a therapist and discuss self-esteem issues. I am sure many of the women on this list have struggled with similar issues.Like I said, keep talking with us. We see your beauty.Love to us all, -- OgutThe Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It -------------- Original message ----------------------> This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i > didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of > changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the > answers

but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a > grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and > now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my > kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want > to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to > face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 > surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my > bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who > was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. > all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my> own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he > has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of

me but i know he should > do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry > him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be > strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but > i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a > freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole > women not a half of one!!!> > Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. > I had a lumpectomy in 2004. > Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But > always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called > in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 > suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I > can talk to..The ladies here give you

that shoulder to cry on and > lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That > your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from > everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer > survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its > not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why > but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as > we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old > daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I > am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my > husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing > up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it > may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my > prayers and dont ever think you are

alone. Or crazy about your > feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty > much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have > a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.> > > > > > > > > > - In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> > wrote:> >> > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one > another > > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys > done.That > > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats > why i > > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not > easy > > goin though all this alone.> >> > > > > > >

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hello again , and tks for listenin.it helps that someone knows the same things i am going though.Yes i plan on talkin to a dr about this. i know depressition is setting in.I went to the dr yesterday to see what else needs to be done next with me. And i ended up sitting 2 hrs and not seeing him at all. these r cancer drs and why do they makes us wait.i could understand if they was busy but they wasnt. i finally walk off and left and thats not good cause that puts my life on the line. i plan on findin at different dr now but since this all started a yr ago it seamd they dont care or they r to busy with other cancer people and this is a great hospital in ia.i just dont understand . why drs cant have feeling for us to.lisaogut@... wrote: Tobie wrote: "said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr

now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!"______________Hello Tobie, Welcome, and keep talking with us. You are 100% beautiful, 100% fully human. Maybe you can speak with a therapist and discuss self-esteem issues. I am sure many of the women on this list have struggled with similar issues.Like I said, keep talking with us. We see your beauty.Love to us all, -- OgutThe Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It -------------- Original message ----------------------> This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i > didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of > changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the > answers

but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a > grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and > now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my > kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want > to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to > face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 > surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my > bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who > was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. > all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my> own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he > has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of

me but i know he should > do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry > him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be > strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but > i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a > freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole > women not a half of one!!!> > Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. > I had a lumpectomy in 2004. > Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But > always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called > in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 > suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I > can talk to..The ladies here give you

that shoulder to cry on and > lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That > your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from > everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer > survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its > not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why > but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as > we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old > daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I > am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my > husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing > up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it > may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my > prayers and dont ever think you are

alone. Or crazy about your > feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty > much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have > a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.> > > > > > > > > > - In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> > wrote:> >> > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one > another > > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys > done.That > > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats > why i > > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not > easy > > goin though all this alone.> >> > > > > > >

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hello again , and tks for listenin.it helps that someone knows the same things i am going though.Yes i plan on talkin to a dr about this. i know depressition is setting in.I went to the dr yesterday to see what else needs to be done next with me. And i ended up sitting 2 hrs and not seeing him at all. these r cancer drs and why do they makes us wait.i could understand if they was busy but they wasnt. i finally walk off and left and thats not good cause that puts my life on the line. i plan on findin at different dr now but since this all started a yr ago it seamd they dont care or they r to busy with other cancer people and this is a great hospital in ia.i just dont understand . why drs cant have feeling for us to.lisaogut@... wrote: Tobie wrote: "said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr

now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!"______________Hello Tobie, Welcome, and keep talking with us. You are 100% beautiful, 100% fully human. Maybe you can speak with a therapist and discuss self-esteem issues. I am sure many of the women on this list have struggled with similar issues.Like I said, keep talking with us. We see your beauty.Love to us all, -- OgutThe Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It -------------- Original message ----------------------> This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i > didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of > changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the > answers

but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a > grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and > now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my > kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want > to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to > face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 > surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my > bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who > was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. > all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my> own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he > has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of

me but i know he should > do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry > him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be > strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but > i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a > freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole > women not a half of one!!!> > Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. > I had a lumpectomy in 2004. > Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But > always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called > in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 > suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I > can talk to..The ladies here give you

that shoulder to cry on and > lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That > your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from > everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer > survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its > not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why > but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as > we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old > daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I > am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my > husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing > up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it > may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my > prayers and dont ever think you are

alone. Or crazy about your > feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty > much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have > a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.> > > > > > > > > > - In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> > wrote:> >> > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one > another > > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys > done.That > > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats > why i > > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not > easy > > goin though all this alone.> >> > > > > > >

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Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote: Tobie, First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com Re: Re: Hello everyone This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have

to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least

thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im

fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.> Have a great and wonderful day!! Sign,Tobie __________________________________________________

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Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote: Tobie, First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com Re: Re: Hello everyone This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have

to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least

thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im

fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.> Have a great and wonderful day!! Sign,Tobie __________________________________________________

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Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote: Tobie, First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Lifehttp://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com Re: Re: Hello everyone This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have

to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least

thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im

fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.> Have a great and wonderful day!! Sign,Tobie __________________________________________________

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I'm sorry but maybe you don't know better. I know that sounds crude but I don't mean it to be. Maybe it is him, not you. Maybe he's having problems dealing with the fact that you are sick and he can't do anything to fix it. Men like to fix things, this is something he can't fix for you. It can render some men impotent. I'm serious. I'm not a psychiatrist, don't even play one on TV, but this is basic 101 psyche. It might be he's feeling helpless, that he loves you very much but he just can't deal with the fact that you have a disease.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote:

Tobie,

First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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Re: Re: Hello everyone

This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie

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I'm sorry but maybe you don't know better. I know that sounds crude but I don't mean it to be. Maybe it is him, not you. Maybe he's having problems dealing with the fact that you are sick and he can't do anything to fix it. Men like to fix things, this is something he can't fix for you. It can render some men impotent. I'm serious. I'm not a psychiatrist, don't even play one on TV, but this is basic 101 psyche. It might be he's feeling helpless, that he loves you very much but he just can't deal with the fact that you have a disease.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote:

Tobie,

First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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Re: Re: Hello everyone

This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie

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yea ur rite i dont know everything and i know he feels hopeless. that he cant help me. but what does that have to do with touchin,feelin and holding? cause if there isnt anything there to hold no more or to touch or feel.men want that.i want to marry this man but i want him to have a WHOLE women again. not just a half of one. mayb he needs more or someone better. i dont know any more what to think of it all.,June wrote: I'm sorry but maybe you don't know better. I know that sounds crude but I don't mean it to be. Maybe it is him, not you. Maybe he's having problems dealing with the fact that you are sick and he can't do anything to fix it. Men like to fix things, this is

something he can't fix for you. It can render some men impotent. I'm serious. I'm not a psychiatrist, don't even play one on TV, but this is basic 101 psyche. It might be he's feeling helpless, that he loves you very much but he just can't deal with the fact that you have a disease. LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/ Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no

more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote: Tobie, First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for

Lifehttp://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com Re: Re: Hello everyone This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there

for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have

a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the

case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.> Have a great and wonderful day!! Sign,Tobie __________________________________________________

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yea ur rite i dont know everything and i know he feels hopeless. that he cant help me. but what does that have to do with touchin,feelin and holding? cause if there isnt anything there to hold no more or to touch or feel.men want that.i want to marry this man but i want him to have a WHOLE women again. not just a half of one. mayb he needs more or someone better. i dont know any more what to think of it all.,June wrote: I'm sorry but maybe you don't know better. I know that sounds crude but I don't mean it to be. Maybe it is him, not you. Maybe he's having problems dealing with the fact that you are sick and he can't do anything to fix it. Men like to fix things, this is

something he can't fix for you. It can render some men impotent. I'm serious. I'm not a psychiatrist, don't even play one on TV, but this is basic 101 psyche. It might be he's feeling helpless, that he loves you very much but he just can't deal with the fact that you have a disease. LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/ Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no

more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote: Tobie, First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for

Lifehttp://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com Re: Re: Hello everyone This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there

for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have

a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the

case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.> Have a great and wonderful day!! Sign,Tobie __________________________________________________

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Because that might be part of it, holding you can't fix it. I know for you it would be the best thing he could do, but for him it might be scary. If he loves you then not having breasts has nothing to do with it. Have you tried holding him, telling him what you need from him? Maybe counseling for both of you would be good, you could put your feelings on the table and see if it's you he loves or the body. My guess is, if he's still there, it's you but he just is not knowing how to handle it right now and might need help with dealing with his emotions on this issue.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

-----Original Message-----From: breastcancer2 [mailto:breastcancer2 ]On Behalf Of tobie klemzSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:08 PMTo: breastcancer2 Subject: RE: Re: Hello everyone

yea ur rite i dont know everything and i know he feels hopeless. that he cant help me. but what does that have to do with touchin,feelin and holding? cause if there isnt anything there to hold no more or to touch or feel.men want that.i want to marry this man but i want him to have a WHOLE women again. not just a half of one. mayb he needs more or someone better. i dont know any more what to think of it all.,June wrote:

I'm sorry but maybe you don't know better. I know that sounds crude but I don't mean it to be. Maybe it is him, not you. Maybe he's having problems dealing with the fact that you are sick and he can't do anything to fix it. Men like to fix things, this is something he can't fix for you. It can render some men impotent. I'm serious. I'm not a psychiatrist, don't even play one on TV, but this is basic 101 psyche. It might be he's feeling helpless, that he loves you very much but he just can't deal with the fact that you have a disease.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote:

Tobie,

First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com

Re: Re: Hello everyone

This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie

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Because that might be part of it, holding you can't fix it. I know for you it would be the best thing he could do, but for him it might be scary. If he loves you then not having breasts has nothing to do with it. Have you tried holding him, telling him what you need from him? Maybe counseling for both of you would be good, you could put your feelings on the table and see if it's you he loves or the body. My guess is, if he's still there, it's you but he just is not knowing how to handle it right now and might need help with dealing with his emotions on this issue.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

-----Original Message-----From: breastcancer2 [mailto:breastcancer2 ]On Behalf Of tobie klemzSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:08 PMTo: breastcancer2 Subject: RE: Re: Hello everyone

yea ur rite i dont know everything and i know he feels hopeless. that he cant help me. but what does that have to do with touchin,feelin and holding? cause if there isnt anything there to hold no more or to touch or feel.men want that.i want to marry this man but i want him to have a WHOLE women again. not just a half of one. mayb he needs more or someone better. i dont know any more what to think of it all.,June wrote:

I'm sorry but maybe you don't know better. I know that sounds crude but I don't mean it to be. Maybe it is him, not you. Maybe he's having problems dealing with the fact that you are sick and he can't do anything to fix it. Men like to fix things, this is something he can't fix for you. It can render some men impotent. I'm serious. I'm not a psychiatrist, don't even play one on TV, but this is basic 101 psyche. It might be he's feeling helpless, that he loves you very much but he just can't deal with the fact that you have a disease.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

Hi and yes i keep tellin him it borthers me that he dont touch me no more and i know he loves me.but still it hurts not to be touched no more, he says its not me its him but i know better. & nne Svihlik wrote:

Tobie,

First off you are not a freak or half a woman. Whats on the outside of us is not what counts its what inside of us. You sound like a wonderful woman. You should maybe sit down and tell your bf that it bothers you that he hasn't touched you but two times. If he continues to act like this you might want to consider breaking up with him. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.htmlalso check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at:http://www.cancerclub.com

Re: Re: Hello everyone

This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie

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Tobie,

As time goes by it does get better. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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Re: Re: Hello everyone

This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your post. I had a lumpectomy in 2004. Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.- In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> wrote:>> Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one another > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys done.That > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats why i > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not easy > goin though all this alone.>

Have a great and wonderful day!!

Sign,Tobie

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Tobie,

I'm sorry, you *did* write the e mail without mentioning your bf. A pox on me!

I missed that. I guess I was reading the one before, about your worries about

his reaction to you.

Keep talking with us, we all share some of the same concerns about our lives

changing so much.

Love to us all,

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--------- Re: Re: Hello everyone

>

>

> This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the

hoildays

> i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would

of

> changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the

> answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a

> grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and

> now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my

> kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was " i dont want

> to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to

> face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3

> surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but

my

> bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who

> was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was

there.

> all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and

> my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams

> he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he

> should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to

> marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I

want

> to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont

> matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man

> wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a

> whole women not a half of one!!!

>

> Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your

post.

> I had a lumpectomy in 2004.

> Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But

> always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called

> in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2

> suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I

> can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and

> lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That

> your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from

> everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer

> survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its

> not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why

> but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as

> we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old

> daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I

> am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my

> husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing

> up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it

> may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my

> prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your

> feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty

> much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have

> a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In breastcancer2 , " nana112956 " <nana112956@y...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one

> another

> > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys

> done.That

> > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats

> why i

> > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not

> easy

> > goin though all this alone.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Have a great and wonderful day!!

> Sign,Tobie

>

> __________________________________________________

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Tobie...I'm so sorry that your family has pulled away.

I hope all works out with you and your boyfriend if that is what you want.

I'm here for you when you need someone, we all are.

I left Tobie's message in tact since I'm so behind. Sorry digest people.

Re: Re: Hello everyone

This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the hoildays i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would of changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for my 3 surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but my bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was there. all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I want to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i know it matters to men.they want a whole women not a half of one!!!

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tks for understanding.these days what people say or do.i take things the wrong way and its not me.its the depression settin from the bc.i am surprised my bf and family hasnt run for the hills cause of all i put them though.does alot of u have the depression to? i got alot to learn about this cancer and i hope this group can help me out with some answers i have.tks again for understanding and sry if i was upset for a while with people.lisaogut@... wrote: Hi Tobie,Good luck , I hope you find a good doctor that doesnt keep you waiting for long periods of time in the waiting room. It does sorta feel that finding a good doctor is a life-and-death thing. Do other people on the list feel that way, too?I also am taking the pills for 5 years so the cancer wont come back (we hope), and/but my 5 years are almost over, and

I will have to decide whether to continue taking them (as they are known to work) or to stop. I have around 2 months or so left of the 5 years. I had decided to go ahead and do radiation and chemo after my surgery. The cancer was in my right breast, and I heard right -vs - left breast might make a difference as far as radiation goes. I only heard that through a girlfriend who got cancer just after I did, but hers was in her left breast, and she decided not to do radiation. My friend did take the tamoxifen pills, and we will be ending our time on tamoxifen (I am on Tamoxifen's twin, "Arimidex") around the same time. She doesnt plan to continue to take it after the 5 years are up. I probably will continue. But havent really decided yet.I am 49, by the way, and I was 43 when I was diagnosed. I hope you will have a great evening. Talk to us about anything you want to, that's not what I meant in my last e

mail. I am glad you are in this group. We like hearing from you. I only joined this group around 3 months ago, so perhaps I am sort of a newbie, too.Love to us all, -- OgutThe Whole Brain Game -- It's Not What You Think But How You Think It --------- Re: Re: Hello everyone> > > > > > This time last yr i found out i had breast cancer and because of the > hoildays > > i didnt get nothin done until jan.if i know what i know now back then i would > of > > changed alot of things. u think that the drs are the ones that knows all the > > answers but they dont.I dont have no one to talk to and as a mother and a > > grandmother i have to be the strong one of the family.i take care of them and > > now it my turn to be taken care of and sometimes its hard for them,. when my > > kids first found out i had breast cancer all i heard frm them was" i dont want > > to face it or im scared mom. until one day i had to tell them ' i dont want to > > face it neither but i have to.cause its in me.Well they was all there for

my 3 > > surgerys but when it came time for the chemo treatments no one was there but > my > > bf. we all had a talk (family meeting ) about what was goin to happen and who > > was all goin to help my bf with me. when it came time to help no one was > there. > > all i heard was im busy or i have a full time job and> > my own life to take care of.Boy did that one hurt.My bf helps me but it seams > > he has givin up to.I know he loves me. and he takes care of me but i know he > > should do more but like my kids he dont want to face it neither.He asked me to > > marry him last month and i said yes. but not until this is all over with. I > want > > to be strong ,healthy and to look like a women again to him he said it dont > > matter but i know it does. he has only touched me 2 times in a yr now . no man > > wants a freak to touch or to make love to.i

know it matters to men.they want a > > whole women not a half of one!!!> > > > Debbie wrote: Hi Nana, I sure can relate to your > post. > > I had a lumpectomy in 2004. > > Didnt have chemo or anything after that and seemed things was ok. But > > always had to put up front that I was strong. Now I have been called > > in for an ultrasound on same breast because mammogram showed 2 > > suspious spots and I am terrified but feel I have no one here that I > > can talk to..The ladies here give you that shoulder to cry on and > > lets you know all those wild feelings you are having are normal. That > > your not alone. If it wasnt for all I have read and recieved from > > everyone here and my mother who is 6 hours away but a breast cancer > > survivor of about 7 yrs now I duuno how i would keep my sanity. Its

> > not easy to just let it all out to husband or friend. I dont know why > > but seems we think we have to protect them from worrying as much as > > we do about it all.At least thats what I feel. I have a 9yr old > > daughter who has no clue yet. When I have one of my crying spells I > > am always alone and usually get my control back before I face my > > husband or daughter.I dont know how old you are but as I was growing > > up the big C(cancer) was felt as a death sentences but as rough as it > > may be women have gotten thru it and lived happy lives. Your in my > > prayers and dont ever think you are alone. Or crazy about your > > feelings. someone out there has been there or is going thru pretty > > much same thing you are. So feel free to talk to any of us. you have > > a wide variety of experience here thats for sure.> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In breastcancer2 , "nana112956" <nana112956@y...> > > wrote:> > >> > > Hello everyone im new here.I see alot of you sure care for one > > another > > > and thats great!!! It seams like as soon as i had my surgerys > > done.That > > > my family and bf thinks im fine now and thats not the case.Thats > > why i > > > joined this group.I need some one to listen and talk to.Its not > > easy > > > goin though all this alone.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a great and wonderful day!!> > Sign,Tobie> > > >

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Wow, I hope someone wasn't reading this in digest form. Every post from the beginning was on it.

Tobie, we probably all have or have had varying degrees of depression with this. I go in and out with it but as long as I can do things and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel I'm good. I'm a little depressed and pissed right now because I can't find my wig and I have a feeling it disappeared at the hospital yesterday. Another post on that.

Anyway, talk to your doctor about depression and see if you can get some meds for it. It's hard to deal with this as it is, you shouldn't have to do it without help.

LICS June "The best protection any woman can have...is courage." Cady Stanton Secular Breast Cancer Support group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SecularBCSupport/

-----Original Message-----From: breastcancer2 [mailto:breastcancer2 ]On Behalf Of tobie klemzSent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:09 PMTo: breastcancer2 Subject: RE: Re: Hello everyone

tks for understanding.these days what people say or do.i take things the wrong way and its not me.its the depression settin from the bc.i am surprised my bf and family hasnt run for the hills cause of all i put them though.does alot of u have the depression to? i got alot to learn about this cancer and i hope this group can help me out with some answers i have.tks again for understanding and sry if i was upset for a while with people.

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