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I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

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I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Alayna, thank you so much for your kind words.it means a lot to me. im very

thankful for the groups and the good people on them .I have taken psych meds in

the past, I hated them, they really did not work for me . If I could just get

all this thyroid/adrenal stuff straightened out I would feel better all around

, all of us would I think. Im just down because its a RT3 issue again, I was

hopping I just needed more thyroid meds.I hate feeling this depressed, its not

really me.

Thank you for kindness, sometimes is seems there is not enough of that anymore.

thank you!:) sherie

> >

> > >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> >

> > Low

> >

> > >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> >

> > Low

> >

> > >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

> >

> > High

> > >

> > >

> > >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> > >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

> >

> > A bit low>

> > >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> > >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> > >

> > Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

> >

> > >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried

about how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

> >

> > How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

> >

> > Nick

> >

>

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Alayna, thank you so much for your kind words.it means a lot to me. im very

thankful for the groups and the good people on them .I have taken psych meds in

the past, I hated them, they really did not work for me . If I could just get

all this thyroid/adrenal stuff straightened out I would feel better all around

, all of us would I think. Im just down because its a RT3 issue again, I was

hopping I just needed more thyroid meds.I hate feeling this depressed, its not

really me.

Thank you for kindness, sometimes is seems there is not enough of that anymore.

thank you!:) sherie

> >

> > >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> >

> > Low

> >

> > >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> >

> > Low

> >

> > >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

> >

> > High

> > >

> > >

> > >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> > >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

> >

> > A bit low>

> > >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> > >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> > >

> > Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

> >

> > >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried

about how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

> >

> > How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

> >

> > Nick

> >

>

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Alayna, thank you so much for your kind words.it means a lot to me. im very

thankful for the groups and the good people on them .I have taken psych meds in

the past, I hated them, they really did not work for me . If I could just get

all this thyroid/adrenal stuff straightened out I would feel better all around

, all of us would I think. Im just down because its a RT3 issue again, I was

hopping I just needed more thyroid meds.I hate feeling this depressed, its not

really me.

Thank you for kindness, sometimes is seems there is not enough of that anymore.

thank you!:) sherie

> >

> > >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> >

> > Low

> >

> > >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> >

> > Low

> >

> > >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

> >

> > High

> > >

> > >

> > >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> > >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

> >

> > A bit low>

> > >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> > >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> > >

> > Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

> >

> > >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried

about how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

> >

> > How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

> >

> > Nick

> >

>

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>If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

>hesitation going back on it.

Question, I am not a woman so I don't know the answer

Were your periods actually made light or made " normal " with you used

to heavier periods for many years due to Hypo???

As Val says, try combinations of Natural and T3 in any combination

that works for you.

The " losing muscle " with T3 thing is generally when body builders

abuse it. Used to replace what your body should have anyway there

shouldn't be any loss.

Nick

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This sounds good, its what I was thinking too. being on about 1 grain to a grain

and a half of NTH and the rest T3.

Doing it this way I will have to go mostly by symptoms do you think?

And taking the meds this way, will it make the SHBG go up too high again?

I just looked at the STTM site, for lab work places because I dont think my doc

would run blood work again so soon. and you have to have your docs permission to

get a RT3 test ,its some law now .

My doctor doesn't want me on any T3 unless its the time release kind. he thinks

its dangerous, I have no faith in him, I dont think he is really knowledgeable

about most of this at all.

I have to go back to see him in Jan, I guess I will need to lie to him about

the meds im taking.

So what to do if I cant get another RT3 test?

sherie

>

> I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

> grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

> start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

> or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

> couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

> where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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This sounds good, its what I was thinking too. being on about 1 grain to a grain

and a half of NTH and the rest T3.

Doing it this way I will have to go mostly by symptoms do you think?

And taking the meds this way, will it make the SHBG go up too high again?

I just looked at the STTM site, for lab work places because I dont think my doc

would run blood work again so soon. and you have to have your docs permission to

get a RT3 test ,its some law now .

My doctor doesn't want me on any T3 unless its the time release kind. he thinks

its dangerous, I have no faith in him, I dont think he is really knowledgeable

about most of this at all.

I have to go back to see him in Jan, I guess I will need to lie to him about

the meds im taking.

So what to do if I cant get another RT3 test?

sherie

>

> I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

> grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

> start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

> or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

> couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

> where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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This sounds good, its what I was thinking too. being on about 1 grain to a grain

and a half of NTH and the rest T3.

Doing it this way I will have to go mostly by symptoms do you think?

And taking the meds this way, will it make the SHBG go up too high again?

I just looked at the STTM site, for lab work places because I dont think my doc

would run blood work again so soon. and you have to have your docs permission to

get a RT3 test ,its some law now .

My doctor doesn't want me on any T3 unless its the time release kind. he thinks

its dangerous, I have no faith in him, I dont think he is really knowledgeable

about most of this at all.

I have to go back to see him in Jan, I guess I will need to lie to him about

the meds im taking.

So what to do if I cant get another RT3 test?

sherie

>

> I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

> grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

> start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

> or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

> couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

> where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Hi Nick, my periods have always been on the light side, but while on just T3

they got lighter , and the days I had my cycles was less too. I usually have

them for about three days, while on T3 they went to about two days.

Also the signs of ovulation were not as noticeable while on T3.

I hope that was not too much information.

thank you , sherie

>

> >If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

> >hesitation going back on it.

>

> Question, I am not a woman so I don't know the answer

>

> Were your periods actually made light or made " normal " with you used

> to heavier periods for many years due to Hypo???

>

> As Val says, try combinations of Natural and T3 in any combination

> that works for you.

>

> The " losing muscle " with T3 thing is generally when body builders

> abuse it. Used to replace what your body should have anyway there

> shouldn't be any loss.

>

> Nick

>

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Hi Nick, my periods have always been on the light side, but while on just T3

they got lighter , and the days I had my cycles was less too. I usually have

them for about three days, while on T3 they went to about two days.

Also the signs of ovulation were not as noticeable while on T3.

I hope that was not too much information.

thank you , sherie

>

> >If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

> >hesitation going back on it.

>

> Question, I am not a woman so I don't know the answer

>

> Were your periods actually made light or made " normal " with you used

> to heavier periods for many years due to Hypo???

>

> As Val says, try combinations of Natural and T3 in any combination

> that works for you.

>

> The " losing muscle " with T3 thing is generally when body builders

> abuse it. Used to replace what your body should have anyway there

> shouldn't be any loss.

>

> Nick

>

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Hi Nick, my periods have always been on the light side, but while on just T3

they got lighter , and the days I had my cycles was less too. I usually have

them for about three days, while on T3 they went to about two days.

Also the signs of ovulation were not as noticeable while on T3.

I hope that was not too much information.

thank you , sherie

>

> >If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

> >hesitation going back on it.

>

> Question, I am not a woman so I don't know the answer

>

> Were your periods actually made light or made " normal " with you used

> to heavier periods for many years due to Hypo???

>

> As Val says, try combinations of Natural and T3 in any combination

> that works for you.

>

> The " losing muscle " with T3 thing is generally when body builders

> abuse it. Used to replace what your body should have anyway there

> shouldn't be any loss.

>

> Nick

>

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LEF Org or Direct labs have reverse T3 testing stil listed. Lef would

be cheaper if oyu have a membership. Look in our links section for the

links to these labs. I have no idea at what point SHBG woudl go high and

suspect it si differnt ofr each of us so you may just need ot test it if

oyu have a return of symotms.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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LEF Org or Direct labs have reverse T3 testing stil listed. Lef would

be cheaper if oyu have a membership. Look in our links section for the

links to these labs. I have no idea at what point SHBG woudl go high and

suspect it si differnt ofr each of us so you may just need ot test it if

oyu have a return of symotms.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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LEF Org or Direct labs have reverse T3 testing stil listed. Lef would

be cheaper if oyu have a membership. Look in our links section for the

links to these labs. I have no idea at what point SHBG woudl go high and

suspect it si differnt ofr each of us so you may just need ot test it if

oyu have a return of symotms.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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" Hi Nick, my periods have always been on the light side, but while on just T3

they got lighter , and the days I had my cycles was less too. I usually have

them for about three days, while on T3 they went to about two days.

Also the signs of ovulation were not as noticeable while on T3. "

Sherie, this sounds to me liek your androgens are alreayd low. if this is the

case then mnatural thyroid is nto oging to replace them qand oyu shoudl be

supplementing them anyway. Thsi si often from weak adrenal swhich we know you

have. Replacin just cortiolsl does nto replace androgens they also produce.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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" Hi Nick, my periods have always been on the light side, but while on just T3

they got lighter , and the days I had my cycles was less too. I usually have

them for about three days, while on T3 they went to about two days.

Also the signs of ovulation were not as noticeable while on T3. "

Sherie, this sounds to me liek your androgens are alreayd low. if this is the

case then mnatural thyroid is nto oging to replace them qand oyu shoudl be

supplementing them anyway. Thsi si often from weak adrenal swhich we know you

have. Replacin just cortiolsl does nto replace androgens they also produce.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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" Hi Nick, my periods have always been on the light side, but while on just T3

they got lighter , and the days I had my cycles was less too. I usually have

them for about three days, while on T3 they went to about two days.

Also the signs of ovulation were not as noticeable while on T3. "

Sherie, this sounds to me liek your androgens are alreayd low. if this is the

case then mnatural thyroid is nto oging to replace them qand oyu shoudl be

supplementing them anyway. Thsi si often from weak adrenal swhich we know you

have. Replacin just cortiolsl does nto replace androgens they also produce.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Val, I have to go get blood drawn for SHBG, DHEA-S, estradiol, progesterone, and

testosterone in about a week. doctor wants me to get it drawn around ovulation.

Should I wait to switch my meds around until after the tests, so the T3 dosent

mess with the SHBG or testosterone?

Or would it not make a difference if I started taking some T3 now?

I just want an accurate reading, to see if the SHBG went down and the

testosterone went up.

thank you , sherie

>

> I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

> grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

> start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

> or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

> couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

> where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Val, I have to go get blood drawn for SHBG, DHEA-S, estradiol, progesterone, and

testosterone in about a week. doctor wants me to get it drawn around ovulation.

Should I wait to switch my meds around until after the tests, so the T3 dosent

mess with the SHBG or testosterone?

Or would it not make a difference if I started taking some T3 now?

I just want an accurate reading, to see if the SHBG went down and the

testosterone went up.

thank you , sherie

>

> I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

> grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

> start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

> or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

> couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

> where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Val, I have to go get blood drawn for SHBG, DHEA-S, estradiol, progesterone, and

testosterone in about a week. doctor wants me to get it drawn around ovulation.

Should I wait to switch my meds around until after the tests, so the T3 dosent

mess with the SHBG or testosterone?

Or would it not make a difference if I started taking some T3 now?

I just want an accurate reading, to see if the SHBG went down and the

testosterone went up.

thank you , sherie

>

> I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

> grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

> start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

> or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

> couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

> where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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I would try to hold where you are till after testing to get a clear

picture. BTW T3 does NOT lower TOTAL testosterone, if thta is lwo it si

form low adrenal funciton. What it does do is raise SHBG which BINDS

some more testosterone which lowers FREE testosterone. So make certain

they test BOTH free and total. If the total is low then reducing T3 will

nto help enough

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I would try to hold where you are till after testing to get a clear

picture. BTW T3 does NOT lower TOTAL testosterone, if thta is lwo it si

form low adrenal funciton. What it does do is raise SHBG which BINDS

some more testosterone which lowers FREE testosterone. So make certain

they test BOTH free and total. If the total is low then reducing T3 will

nto help enough

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I would try to hold where you are till after testing to get a clear

picture. BTW T3 does NOT lower TOTAL testosterone, if thta is lwo it si

form low adrenal funciton. What it does do is raise SHBG which BINDS

some more testosterone which lowers FREE testosterone. So make certain

they test BOTH free and total. If the total is low then reducing T3 will

nto help enough

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Sherie-

That suicidal thing-it's terrible. I bet most people on here at one time or

another felt it and still feel it- I have. But it will pass- and you will get

incremental improvements that will make you feel it's all worth it.

I read Norman Cousins book Anatomy of An Illness and he talked about watching

his favorite comedy films practically nonstop. How much it helped him- probably

thru generating endorphins.

When I was at the absolute depths I tried it and it really worked.

The only problem was i tried some of the 3 Stooges Routines on my girlfriend and

she beat the hell out of me. (I'm kidding for those who take that too

seriously.)

>

> Just got labs back, and it would seem the RT3 is back, why I dont know.

>

> Im not having alot of hypo type symptoms really , mostly just hair loss and

the last few days some depression but I dont think that its thyroid related.I

dont know what to do. My periods were not normal and the hair on my leg stopped

growing from being on just T3.the hair on my legs is now just starting to come

back in, My SHBG got too high on T3.

>

>

>

> I wish I could just stay on a combo of NTH and T3= Im taking now 2 1/2

grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3.

>

>

> My body is confused from all this hopping from this med to that med. can

anyone stay on the NTH and resolve this RT3 problem?

>

> I have no idea whats causing it , my ferritin is good, my adrenals are doing

ok, im on isocort now. I was on HC for about six months but went back to

isocort. the only thing I can think of is my diet, I might not eat enough, but

im doing better with eating more often.

>

>

> NEW LABS DEC 2 ,09-

>

> Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

>

> IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

> I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> I have been crying at times about how messed up everything is, I just want to

start over, im tired of myself and all this crap that never gets better.I wasted

about six months of my life with all this going on T3 , then getting back on to

NTH,.... now rt3 again.

>

> I have been hypothyroid since 1995, I would take my dessicated thyroid

everyday and had no real issues with being hypo. its only the last few years

that all this thyroid and adrenal stuff started like this, stress is hurting me

and I cant do anything about it. I have been getting suicidal at times

lately , I really have no one to talk to.

>

>

> I dont mean to whine im sorry, I just needed to vent some.

>

> Any help would be very much appreciated,

>

> thank you, sherie

>

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