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I ment pg/ml for the FREE T3, sorry.

>

> Just got labs back, and it would seem the RT3 is back, why I dont know.

>

> Im not having alot of hypo type symptoms really , mostly just hair loss and

the last few days some depression but I dont think that its thyroid related.I

dont know what to do. My periods were not normal and the hair on my leg stopped

growing from being on just T3.the hair on my legs is now just starting to come

back in, My SHBG got too high on T3.

>

>

>

> I wish I could just stay on a combo of NTH and T3= Im taking now 2 1/2

grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3.

>

>

> My body is confused from all this hopping from this med to that med. can

anyone stay on the NTH and resolve this RT3 problem?

>

> I have no idea whats causing it , my ferritin is good, my adrenals are doing

ok, im on isocort now. I was on HC for about six months but went back to

isocort. the only thing I can think of is my diet, I might not eat enough, but

im doing better with eating more often.

>

>

> NEW LABS DEC 2 ,09-

>

> Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

>

> IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

> I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> I have been crying at times about how messed up everything is, I just want to

start over, im tired of myself and all this crap that never gets better.I wasted

about six months of my life with all this going on T3 , then getting back on to

NTH,.... now rt3 again.

>

> I have been hypothyroid since 1995, I would take my dessicated thyroid

everyday and had no real issues with being hypo. its only the last few years

that all this thyroid and adrenal stuff started like this, stress is hurting me

and I cant do anything about it. I have been getting suicidal at times

lately , I really have no one to talk to.

>

>

> I dont mean to whine im sorry, I just needed to vent some.

>

> Any help would be very much appreciated,

>

> thank you, sherie

>

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I ment pg/ml for the FREE T3, sorry.

>

> Just got labs back, and it would seem the RT3 is back, why I dont know.

>

> Im not having alot of hypo type symptoms really , mostly just hair loss and

the last few days some depression but I dont think that its thyroid related.I

dont know what to do. My periods were not normal and the hair on my leg stopped

growing from being on just T3.the hair on my legs is now just starting to come

back in, My SHBG got too high on T3.

>

>

>

> I wish I could just stay on a combo of NTH and T3= Im taking now 2 1/2

grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3.

>

>

> My body is confused from all this hopping from this med to that med. can

anyone stay on the NTH and resolve this RT3 problem?

>

> I have no idea whats causing it , my ferritin is good, my adrenals are doing

ok, im on isocort now. I was on HC for about six months but went back to

isocort. the only thing I can think of is my diet, I might not eat enough, but

im doing better with eating more often.

>

>

> NEW LABS DEC 2 ,09-

>

> Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

>

> IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

> I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> I have been crying at times about how messed up everything is, I just want to

start over, im tired of myself and all this crap that never gets better.I wasted

about six months of my life with all this going on T3 , then getting back on to

NTH,.... now rt3 again.

>

> I have been hypothyroid since 1995, I would take my dessicated thyroid

everyday and had no real issues with being hypo. its only the last few years

that all this thyroid and adrenal stuff started like this, stress is hurting me

and I cant do anything about it. I have been getting suicidal at times

lately , I really have no one to talk to.

>

>

> I dont mean to whine im sorry, I just needed to vent some.

>

> Any help would be very much appreciated,

>

> thank you, sherie

>

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>Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

Low

>Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

Low

>Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

High

>

>

>IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

>Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

A bit low>

>SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

>POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

>I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

Nick

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Sherie,

I'm so sorry your not feeling good. I know the feeling as well. But when it

gets to the point where you feel suicidal then yes, talk about it. But also you

may need to get more professional help. I know it's not adviseable to take an

antidepressant but if you need it right now then do it. It wouldn't be forever.

I just think when you get to that point, you need to get help.

I am here for you. Please know that. There's a lot of us that care!

Alayna

>

> >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

>

> Low

>

> >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

>

> Low

>

> >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

> High

> >

> >

> >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> A bit low>

> >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> >

> Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

>

> >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

>

> Nick

>

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Sherie,

I'm so sorry your not feeling good. I know the feeling as well. But when it

gets to the point where you feel suicidal then yes, talk about it. But also you

may need to get more professional help. I know it's not adviseable to take an

antidepressant but if you need it right now then do it. It wouldn't be forever.

I just think when you get to that point, you need to get help.

I am here for you. Please know that. There's a lot of us that care!

Alayna

>

> >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

>

> Low

>

> >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

>

> Low

>

> >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

> High

> >

> >

> >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> A bit low>

> >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> >

> Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

>

> >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

>

> Nick

>

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Sherie,

I'm so sorry your not feeling good. I know the feeling as well. But when it

gets to the point where you feel suicidal then yes, talk about it. But also you

may need to get more professional help. I know it's not adviseable to take an

antidepressant but if you need it right now then do it. It wouldn't be forever.

I just think when you get to that point, you need to get help.

I am here for you. Please know that. There's a lot of us that care!

Alayna

>

> >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

>

> Low

>

> >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

>

> Low

>

> >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

> High

> >

> >

> >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> A bit low>

> >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> >

> Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

>

> >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

>

> Nick

>

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Hi Sherie,

My name is . I don't have alot answers for you as I am new to this

forum/reverse T3 thing. However, I am NOT new to hypothyroidism. I was

officially diagnosed about 10 years ago, but in retrospect, have been

symptomatic since I was around 10 or 11. I am currently 35 years old.

Your post touched my heart and concerned me. I know ALL TOO WELL where you are

at and want you to know that we are all here for you.

It sounds like you need to talk and express more than what can be " concisely "

done here.

PLEASE feel free to e-mail me directly. Maybe we could

help eachother? I too know what it is like to be a prisoner of this

condition/symptoms.

Please do not give up and know that there is answer for EVERYONE. Some of us

just need to do much more investigating. I know this is frustrating, but we

will get there.

Thanks and wishing you the best,

>

> Just got labs back, and it would seem the RT3 is back, why I dont know.

>

> Im not having alot of hypo type symptoms really , mostly just hair loss and

the last few days some depression but I dont think that its thyroid related.I

dont know what to do. My periods were not normal and the hair on my leg stopped

growing from being on just T3.the hair on my legs is now just starting to come

back in, My SHBG got too high on T3.

>

>

>

> I wish I could just stay on a combo of NTH and T3= Im taking now 2 1/2

grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3.

>

>

> My body is confused from all this hopping from this med to that med. can

anyone stay on the NTH and resolve this RT3 problem?

>

> I have no idea whats causing it , my ferritin is good, my adrenals are doing

ok, im on isocort now. I was on HC for about six months but went back to

isocort. the only thing I can think of is my diet, I might not eat enough, but

im doing better with eating more often.

>

>

> NEW LABS DEC 2 ,09-

>

> Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

>

> IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

> I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> I have been crying at times about how messed up everything is, I just want to

start over, im tired of myself and all this crap that never gets better.I wasted

about six months of my life with all this going on T3 , then getting back on to

NTH,.... now rt3 again.

>

> I have been hypothyroid since 1995, I would take my dessicated thyroid

everyday and had no real issues with being hypo. its only the last few years

that all this thyroid and adrenal stuff started like this, stress is hurting me

and I cant do anything about it. I have been getting suicidal at times

lately , I really have no one to talk to.

>

>

> I dont mean to whine im sorry, I just needed to vent some.

>

> Any help would be very much appreciated,

>

> thank you, sherie

>

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Hi Sherie,

My name is . I don't have alot answers for you as I am new to this

forum/reverse T3 thing. However, I am NOT new to hypothyroidism. I was

officially diagnosed about 10 years ago, but in retrospect, have been

symptomatic since I was around 10 or 11. I am currently 35 years old.

Your post touched my heart and concerned me. I know ALL TOO WELL where you are

at and want you to know that we are all here for you.

It sounds like you need to talk and express more than what can be " concisely "

done here.

PLEASE feel free to e-mail me directly. Maybe we could

help eachother? I too know what it is like to be a prisoner of this

condition/symptoms.

Please do not give up and know that there is answer for EVERYONE. Some of us

just need to do much more investigating. I know this is frustrating, but we

will get there.

Thanks and wishing you the best,

>

> Just got labs back, and it would seem the RT3 is back, why I dont know.

>

> Im not having alot of hypo type symptoms really , mostly just hair loss and

the last few days some depression but I dont think that its thyroid related.I

dont know what to do. My periods were not normal and the hair on my leg stopped

growing from being on just T3.the hair on my legs is now just starting to come

back in, My SHBG got too high on T3.

>

>

>

> I wish I could just stay on a combo of NTH and T3= Im taking now 2 1/2

grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3.

>

>

> My body is confused from all this hopping from this med to that med. can

anyone stay on the NTH and resolve this RT3 problem?

>

> I have no idea whats causing it , my ferritin is good, my adrenals are doing

ok, im on isocort now. I was on HC for about six months but went back to

isocort. the only thing I can think of is my diet, I might not eat enough, but

im doing better with eating more often.

>

>

> NEW LABS DEC 2 ,09-

>

> Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

>

> IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

> I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> I have been crying at times about how messed up everything is, I just want to

start over, im tired of myself and all this crap that never gets better.I wasted

about six months of my life with all this going on T3 , then getting back on to

NTH,.... now rt3 again.

>

> I have been hypothyroid since 1995, I would take my dessicated thyroid

everyday and had no real issues with being hypo. its only the last few years

that all this thyroid and adrenal stuff started like this, stress is hurting me

and I cant do anything about it. I have been getting suicidal at times

lately , I really have no one to talk to.

>

>

> I dont mean to whine im sorry, I just needed to vent some.

>

> Any help would be very much appreciated,

>

> thank you, sherie

>

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Hi Sherie,

My name is . I don't have alot answers for you as I am new to this

forum/reverse T3 thing. However, I am NOT new to hypothyroidism. I was

officially diagnosed about 10 years ago, but in retrospect, have been

symptomatic since I was around 10 or 11. I am currently 35 years old.

Your post touched my heart and concerned me. I know ALL TOO WELL where you are

at and want you to know that we are all here for you.

It sounds like you need to talk and express more than what can be " concisely "

done here.

PLEASE feel free to e-mail me directly. Maybe we could

help eachother? I too know what it is like to be a prisoner of this

condition/symptoms.

Please do not give up and know that there is answer for EVERYONE. Some of us

just need to do much more investigating. I know this is frustrating, but we

will get there.

Thanks and wishing you the best,

>

> Just got labs back, and it would seem the RT3 is back, why I dont know.

>

> Im not having alot of hypo type symptoms really , mostly just hair loss and

the last few days some depression but I dont think that its thyroid related.I

dont know what to do. My periods were not normal and the hair on my leg stopped

growing from being on just T3.the hair on my legs is now just starting to come

back in, My SHBG got too high on T3.

>

>

>

> I wish I could just stay on a combo of NTH and T3= Im taking now 2 1/2

grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3.

>

>

> My body is confused from all this hopping from this med to that med. can

anyone stay on the NTH and resolve this RT3 problem?

>

> I have no idea whats causing it , my ferritin is good, my adrenals are doing

ok, im on isocort now. I was on HC for about six months but went back to

isocort. the only thing I can think of is my diet, I might not eat enough, but

im doing better with eating more often.

>

>

> NEW LABS DEC 2 ,09-

>

> Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

> Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

> Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

>

> IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

>

> I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> I have been crying at times about how messed up everything is, I just want to

start over, im tired of myself and all this crap that never gets better.I wasted

about six months of my life with all this going on T3 , then getting back on to

NTH,.... now rt3 again.

>

> I have been hypothyroid since 1995, I would take my dessicated thyroid

everyday and had no real issues with being hypo. its only the last few years

that all this thyroid and adrenal stuff started like this, stress is hurting me

and I cant do anything about it. I have been getting suicidal at times

lately , I really have no one to talk to.

>

>

> I dont mean to whine im sorry, I just needed to vent some.

>

> Any help would be very much appreciated,

>

> thank you, sherie

>

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Sherie I suspect it was th eHC lowering your Testosterone thta caused

the hairloss onthe body and that is why it is back now, that alot more

than high SHBG. Myabe you simply need to take testosterone wiht T3? That

combo is workign VERY well for me. I do nto know why some of us cannot

go back to natuiral thyroid btu the fact is many of us do not KNOW the

cause of you r highRT3 and I am one of them. Though I do nto feel

perfect I feel a far cry better than I did on natural thyroid so I am

sticking it out on T3 only.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Sherie I suspect it was th eHC lowering your Testosterone thta caused

the hairloss onthe body and that is why it is back now, that alot more

than high SHBG. Myabe you simply need to take testosterone wiht T3? That

combo is workign VERY well for me. I do nto know why some of us cannot

go back to natuiral thyroid btu the fact is many of us do not KNOW the

cause of you r highRT3 and I am one of them. Though I do nto feel

perfect I feel a far cry better than I did on natural thyroid so I am

sticking it out on T3 only.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Hi Val.when the hair loss on my legs started I had been off the HC for a few

weeks to a month I think.

My doctor thinks my test labs are good for some reason,I dont think he would

give me test if I asked .

The big reason I did not like taking all T3 was it made my periods strange,

they got lighter and my cycles are already on the light side to begin with,I

also had less ovulation signs being on all T3. I think it messed with my

cycles by making my SHBG so darn high,-

on july 29,09 SHBG 164 20-130

And the body hair not growing normal bugged me too. and my heart would act up

at times on just T3. im also worried about muscle wasting on being on all T3, I

saw posts on that topic months ago.

If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

hesitation going back on it.

It seems my RT3 is at 8 again, how does that happen?, it was about 8 point

something last time too.

I know to get rid of the RT3 we need just T3, but would it be ok to be on say a

grain or grain and a half of NTH and the rest T3?

I want to get the hair loss to stop AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and the RT3 to go down ,

but I dont want my cycles messed with ,heart symptoms or body hair problems.

Im sitting here on the fence, I dont know what to do.

I did not think the RT3 had come back because I just had hair loss and some

depression as symptoms and the depression I have only had about a week from all

the worry about what could be going on with all of this. The brain fog has not

been bad at all, but I might be a bit more fearful and anxious.

I sometimes think the RT3 problem may be related to my diet, perhaps im not

eating enough, or getting enough protein.

Im sorry this is so long, sherie

>

> Sherie I suspect it was th eHC lowering your Testosterone thta caused

> the hairloss onthe body and that is why it is back now, that alot more

> than high SHBG. Myabe you simply need to take testosterone wiht T3? That

> combo is workign VERY well for me. I do nto know why some of us cannot

> go back to natuiral thyroid btu the fact is many of us do not KNOW the

> cause of you r highRT3 and I am one of them. Though I do nto feel

> perfect I feel a far cry better than I did on natural thyroid so I am

> sticking it out on T3 only.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Hi Val.when the hair loss on my legs started I had been off the HC for a few

weeks to a month I think.

My doctor thinks my test labs are good for some reason,I dont think he would

give me test if I asked .

The big reason I did not like taking all T3 was it made my periods strange,

they got lighter and my cycles are already on the light side to begin with,I

also had less ovulation signs being on all T3. I think it messed with my

cycles by making my SHBG so darn high,-

on july 29,09 SHBG 164 20-130

And the body hair not growing normal bugged me too. and my heart would act up

at times on just T3. im also worried about muscle wasting on being on all T3, I

saw posts on that topic months ago.

If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

hesitation going back on it.

It seems my RT3 is at 8 again, how does that happen?, it was about 8 point

something last time too.

I know to get rid of the RT3 we need just T3, but would it be ok to be on say a

grain or grain and a half of NTH and the rest T3?

I want to get the hair loss to stop AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and the RT3 to go down ,

but I dont want my cycles messed with ,heart symptoms or body hair problems.

Im sitting here on the fence, I dont know what to do.

I did not think the RT3 had come back because I just had hair loss and some

depression as symptoms and the depression I have only had about a week from all

the worry about what could be going on with all of this. The brain fog has not

been bad at all, but I might be a bit more fearful and anxious.

I sometimes think the RT3 problem may be related to my diet, perhaps im not

eating enough, or getting enough protein.

Im sorry this is so long, sherie

>

> Sherie I suspect it was th eHC lowering your Testosterone thta caused

> the hairloss onthe body and that is why it is back now, that alot more

> than high SHBG. Myabe you simply need to take testosterone wiht T3? That

> combo is workign VERY well for me. I do nto know why some of us cannot

> go back to natuiral thyroid btu the fact is many of us do not KNOW the

> cause of you r highRT3 and I am one of them. Though I do nto feel

> perfect I feel a far cry better than I did on natural thyroid so I am

> sticking it out on T3 only.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Hi Nick. I was pretty much the same when I was on all T3, I am a worrier ,

always have been. Im always anxious and over thinking everything.

The big reason I did not like taking all T3 was it made my periods strange,

they got lighter and my cycles are already on the light side to begin with,I

also had less ovulation signs being on all T3. I think it messed with my

cycles by making my SHBG so darn high,-

on july 29,09 SHBG 164 20-130

And the body hair not growing normal bugged me too. and my heart would act up

at times on just T3. im also worried about muscle wasting on being on all T3, I

saw posts on that topic months ago.

If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

hesitation going back on it.

thank you ,sherie

>

> >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

>

> Low

>

> >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

>

> Low

>

> >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

> High

> >

> >

> >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> A bit low>

> >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> >

> Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

>

> >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

>

> Nick

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Hi Nick. I was pretty much the same when I was on all T3, I am a worrier ,

always have been. Im always anxious and over thinking everything.

The big reason I did not like taking all T3 was it made my periods strange,

they got lighter and my cycles are already on the light side to begin with,I

also had less ovulation signs being on all T3. I think it messed with my

cycles by making my SHBG so darn high,-

on july 29,09 SHBG 164 20-130

And the body hair not growing normal bugged me too. and my heart would act up

at times on just T3. im also worried about muscle wasting on being on all T3, I

saw posts on that topic months ago.

If the T3 did not mess with my cycles and the body hair I would have no

hesitation going back on it.

thank you ,sherie

>

> >Free T3 2.7 2.5-3.9 pg/dl

>

> Low

>

> >Free T4 0.77 0.59-1.17 ng/ml

>

> Low

>

> >Reverse T3 325 90-350 pg/ml

>

> High

> >

> >

> >IRON 141 35-150 mcg/dl

> >Ferritin 63 3 -105 ng/dl

>

> A bit low>

> >SODIUM 135 136-145 meq/l

> >POTASSIUM 4.1 3.5 -5.1 meq/l

> >

> Sodium is low, Potassium could be higher

>

> >I have been depressed and worried about absolutely everything, worried about

how messed up my life is, my family, loneliness, money, my health,all this

thyroid and adrenal stuff that never stops, worried about the hair loss ,worried

the rT3 might be a problem again, and then I found out it is.

>

> How were you on the T3, is there a reason you can't stay just on that?

>

> Nick

>

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I htink you could try tkaeignT3 wiht a small amount of natural. See how

it goes. We are still learnign abotu all this so some of us MAY be able

to use a combo and be fine, I knwo I can;t even 1 grian of matuiral

brings my RT3 back way too much but that is mne, and your body may be

differnt. I also take BOTH estrogen and testosteroe so that may be why I

feel better on just T3 wiht none of the low androgen symtoms you are

having. The muscle wastign effects of T3 ARE from high SHBG binding the

sex hormones. This si why I think any of us on this long term MUST have

great adrenal funtion to continue the high production of sex hormones

needed to counter this. And if our adrenals are nto up to that task,

supplementing them exogenously is the next best answer.

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I htink you could try tkaeignT3 wiht a small amount of natural. See how

it goes. We are still learnign abotu all this so some of us MAY be able

to use a combo and be fine, I knwo I can;t even 1 grian of matuiral

brings my RT3 back way too much but that is mne, and your body may be

differnt. I also take BOTH estrogen and testosteroe so that may be why I

feel better on just T3 wiht none of the low androgen symtoms you are

having. The muscle wastign effects of T3 ARE from high SHBG binding the

sex hormones. This si why I think any of us on this long term MUST have

great adrenal funtion to continue the high production of sex hormones

needed to counter this. And if our adrenals are nto up to that task,

supplementing them exogenously is the next best answer.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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I htink you could try tkaeignT3 wiht a small amount of natural. See how

it goes. We are still learnign abotu all this so some of us MAY be able

to use a combo and be fine, I knwo I can;t even 1 grian of matuiral

brings my RT3 back way too much but that is mne, and your body may be

differnt. I also take BOTH estrogen and testosteroe so that may be why I

feel better on just T3 wiht none of the low androgen symtoms you are

having. The muscle wastign effects of T3 ARE from high SHBG binding the

sex hormones. This si why I think any of us on this long term MUST have

great adrenal funtion to continue the high production of sex hormones

needed to counter this. And if our adrenals are nto up to that task,

supplementing them exogenously is the next best answer.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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BTW further to the muscle wastign thing. My muscle tone and strength

right now ( 1 year+ into T3 onyl) is better than it was for the last 15

yeras, btu as I said I am also supplementing androgens and pretty hefty

doses for my age (estrogen is usually lwoer at 55 years old and mine is

NOT)

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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BTW further to the muscle wastign thing. My muscle tone and strength

right now ( 1 year+ into T3 onyl) is better than it was for the last 15

yeras, btu as I said I am also supplementing androgens and pretty hefty

doses for my age (estrogen is usually lwoer at 55 years old and mine is

NOT)

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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BTW further to the muscle wastign thing. My muscle tone and strength

right now ( 1 year+ into T3 onyl) is better than it was for the last 15

yeras, btu as I said I am also supplementing androgens and pretty hefty

doses for my age (estrogen is usually lwoer at 55 years old and mine is

NOT)

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Have you heard of people the have a rT3 problem that are taking a combo of the

two, and that its working for them?

With taking a combination of NTH and T3 I would like to have all hypo symptoms

to stop or at least get better,the hair loss, brain fog , fatigue, and the rest

of the 1001 symptoms.

If I could just get the hair loss to stop and it to start growing again , have

my cycles as well as the body hair growth be normal for me , while on a T3 and

NTH combo would be wonderful.

Im on 2 1/2 grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3 right now, what do I go up to on the T3

and what do I lower to on the NTH?

Do you have any suggestions how to do this, the ratio of the natural to the

amount of T3?

sorry for all the questions.

Thank you Val, you and the mods on both the groups are a blessing!

sherie

>

> I htink you could try tkaeignT3 wiht a small amount of natural. See how

> it goes. We are still learnign abotu all this so some of us MAY be able

> to use a combo and be fine, I knwo I can;t even 1 grian of matuiral

> brings my RT3 back way too much but that is mne, and your body may be

> differnt. I also take BOTH estrogen and testosteroe so that may be why I

> feel better on just T3 wiht none of the low androgen symtoms you are

> having. The muscle wastign effects of T3 ARE from high SHBG binding the

> sex hormones. This si why I think any of us on this long term MUST have

> great adrenal funtion to continue the high production of sex hormones

> needed to counter this. And if our adrenals are nto up to that task,

> supplementing them exogenously is the next best answer.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Have you heard of people the have a rT3 problem that are taking a combo of the

two, and that its working for them?

With taking a combination of NTH and T3 I would like to have all hypo symptoms

to stop or at least get better,the hair loss, brain fog , fatigue, and the rest

of the 1001 symptoms.

If I could just get the hair loss to stop and it to start growing again , have

my cycles as well as the body hair growth be normal for me , while on a T3 and

NTH combo would be wonderful.

Im on 2 1/2 grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3 right now, what do I go up to on the T3

and what do I lower to on the NTH?

Do you have any suggestions how to do this, the ratio of the natural to the

amount of T3?

sorry for all the questions.

Thank you Val, you and the mods on both the groups are a blessing!

sherie

>

> I htink you could try tkaeignT3 wiht a small amount of natural. See how

> it goes. We are still learnign abotu all this so some of us MAY be able

> to use a combo and be fine, I knwo I can;t even 1 grian of matuiral

> brings my RT3 back way too much but that is mne, and your body may be

> differnt. I also take BOTH estrogen and testosteroe so that may be why I

> feel better on just T3 wiht none of the low androgen symtoms you are

> having. The muscle wastign effects of T3 ARE from high SHBG binding the

> sex hormones. This si why I think any of us on this long term MUST have

> great adrenal funtion to continue the high production of sex hormones

> needed to counter this. And if our adrenals are nto up to that task,

> supplementing them exogenously is the next best answer.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Have you heard of people the have a rT3 problem that are taking a combo of the

two, and that its working for them?

With taking a combination of NTH and T3 I would like to have all hypo symptoms

to stop or at least get better,the hair loss, brain fog , fatigue, and the rest

of the 1001 symptoms.

If I could just get the hair loss to stop and it to start growing again , have

my cycles as well as the body hair growth be normal for me , while on a T3 and

NTH combo would be wonderful.

Im on 2 1/2 grains NTH and 6.25mcgs T3 right now, what do I go up to on the T3

and what do I lower to on the NTH?

Do you have any suggestions how to do this, the ratio of the natural to the

amount of T3?

sorry for all the questions.

Thank you Val, you and the mods on both the groups are a blessing!

sherie

>

> I htink you could try tkaeignT3 wiht a small amount of natural. See how

> it goes. We are still learnign abotu all this so some of us MAY be able

> to use a combo and be fine, I knwo I can;t even 1 grian of matuiral

> brings my RT3 back way too much but that is mne, and your body may be

> differnt. I also take BOTH estrogen and testosteroe so that may be why I

> feel better on just T3 wiht none of the low androgen symtoms you are

> having. The muscle wastign effects of T3 ARE from high SHBG binding the

> sex hormones. This si why I think any of us on this long term MUST have

> great adrenal funtion to continue the high production of sex hormones

> needed to counter this. And if our adrenals are nto up to that task,

> supplementing them exogenously is the next best answer.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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I would be guessing but as a staring ppoint I would tyr no more than 1

grain Natural and juast use the T3 ot build to unhypo levels. I owuld

start by adding 12.5mcgT3 and dropping 1 grain thenin a couple weeks (

or less oif you feel MORE hypo) add in another 12.5mcg T3. Then wait a

couple weks and drop to the 1 grains and add in 12.5mcg T3 thne see

where you arein about 4 weeks wiht some labs, including RT3.

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