Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 I have hit bottom again, Depression Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (excuse my language - there just doesn't seem to be any better way to describe it) I forced myself to write some this morning and it helped a bit. I also put "Thyroid" into my website browser and came up with reading material that will last me a lifetime. One thing I ran into said that a symptom of Hypothyroid was swollen eyes and face. Is this true? My eyes get so puffy that my eyes look like slits. Also they are bloodshed and sting. It seems like more symptoms are present when I am feeling depressed. Aching all over; headaches; constipation; weight gain, etc etc etc. Am I off base? So what do I do? Work on the depression or the physical symptoms? .......Carma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Calorie counting is probably pretty incompatible with ie but the rest of it isn't. If you don't like greesy foods there's no reason to make yourself eat them. If you like the way certain foods make you feel it seems to me that you're likely on your way to being an intuitive eater. I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. Alia __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Calorie counting is probably pretty incompatible with ie but the rest of it isn't. If you don't like greesy foods there's no reason to make yourself eat them. If you like the way certain foods make you feel it seems to me that you're likely on your way to being an intuitive eater. I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. Alia __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Calorie counting is probably pretty incompatible with ie but the rest of it isn't. If you don't like greesy foods there's no reason to make yourself eat them. If you like the way certain foods make you feel it seems to me that you're likely on your way to being an intuitive eater. I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. Alia __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Alia,First off, you are completely in charge of your own IE journey. So there is no " right " way to do IE.My question for you is: what do you hope to gain from IE? What behavior or mindset are you trying to get away from, that brought you to IE in the first place? It seems to me that something hasn't been working well for you, if you decided to try IE. While I agree that calorie counting is focusin on an external element of your eating, and rather counter to the principles of IE, I think it's fine to keep doing it as long as you feel you need to. Maybe you can focus on how you feel INTERNALLY as you eat, in addition to counting your calories. And also think about how different kinds of calories make you feel... ie calories from sugary foods versus calories from foods with more protein and fat. I think if you can try to just observe, without judging, that will be a great step. If you don't like eating meat, I think that's fine, too. As well as avoiding greasy food. I think the main thing is to try and eat whatever your body is craving -- craving from a " mouth hunger " (taste) perspective as well as a " stomach hunger " (how it makes you feel). And if you never crave meat or greasy food, fine. But if you do crave these, I hope that you will experiment with how they taste and how they make your body feel. I think a lot of us crave certain " play " foods, and try them, and eat them consciously... and discover we don't even LIKE these previously forbidden foods! But it's much easier to avoid them after discovering that, instead of avoiding them because we feel like we are " supposed " to. for me, at least, it felt very liberating and wonderful! best to you, alia, and let us know how it goes.abby  Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Alia,First off, you are completely in charge of your own IE journey. So there is no " right " way to do IE.My question for you is: what do you hope to gain from IE? What behavior or mindset are you trying to get away from, that brought you to IE in the first place? It seems to me that something hasn't been working well for you, if you decided to try IE. While I agree that calorie counting is focusin on an external element of your eating, and rather counter to the principles of IE, I think it's fine to keep doing it as long as you feel you need to. Maybe you can focus on how you feel INTERNALLY as you eat, in addition to counting your calories. And also think about how different kinds of calories make you feel... ie calories from sugary foods versus calories from foods with more protein and fat. I think if you can try to just observe, without judging, that will be a great step. If you don't like eating meat, I think that's fine, too. As well as avoiding greasy food. I think the main thing is to try and eat whatever your body is craving -- craving from a " mouth hunger " (taste) perspective as well as a " stomach hunger " (how it makes you feel). And if you never crave meat or greasy food, fine. But if you do crave these, I hope that you will experiment with how they taste and how they make your body feel. I think a lot of us crave certain " play " foods, and try them, and eat them consciously... and discover we don't even LIKE these previously forbidden foods! But it's much easier to avoid them after discovering that, instead of avoiding them because we feel like we are " supposed " to. for me, at least, it felt very liberating and wonderful! best to you, alia, and let us know how it goes.abby  Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Alia,First off, you are completely in charge of your own IE journey. So there is no " right " way to do IE.My question for you is: what do you hope to gain from IE? What behavior or mindset are you trying to get away from, that brought you to IE in the first place? It seems to me that something hasn't been working well for you, if you decided to try IE. While I agree that calorie counting is focusin on an external element of your eating, and rather counter to the principles of IE, I think it's fine to keep doing it as long as you feel you need to. Maybe you can focus on how you feel INTERNALLY as you eat, in addition to counting your calories. And also think about how different kinds of calories make you feel... ie calories from sugary foods versus calories from foods with more protein and fat. I think if you can try to just observe, without judging, that will be a great step. If you don't like eating meat, I think that's fine, too. As well as avoiding greasy food. I think the main thing is to try and eat whatever your body is craving -- craving from a " mouth hunger " (taste) perspective as well as a " stomach hunger " (how it makes you feel). And if you never crave meat or greasy food, fine. But if you do crave these, I hope that you will experiment with how they taste and how they make your body feel. I think a lot of us crave certain " play " foods, and try them, and eat them consciously... and discover we don't even LIKE these previously forbidden foods! But it's much easier to avoid them after discovering that, instead of avoiding them because we feel like we are " supposed " to. for me, at least, it felt very liberating and wonderful! best to you, alia, and let us know how it goes.abby  Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 You said that well, Sue. I think that even if we think counting calories is harmless, it's causing restriction in one way or another. BTW, protein combining isn't necessary, but I agree that you should eat meals that leave you satisfied, however that comes about. I made vegan ginger cookies today! ; ) Sohni sue wrote: Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 You said that well, Sue. I think that even if we think counting calories is harmless, it's causing restriction in one way or another. BTW, protein combining isn't necessary, but I agree that you should eat meals that leave you satisfied, however that comes about. I made vegan ginger cookies today! ; ) Sohni sue wrote: Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 You said that well, Sue. I think that even if we think counting calories is harmless, it's causing restriction in one way or another. BTW, protein combining isn't necessary, but I agree that you should eat meals that leave you satisfied, however that comes about. I made vegan ginger cookies today! ; ) Sohni sue wrote: Hi Alia: IMO IE means relying on our internal, physical sensations to tell us when, what and how much food to eat, rather than letting some external, weight related indice tell us what and how much to eat. So observing that you hate the way you feel when you eat grease and sugar means you let your internal, physical sensations dissuade you from eating grease and sugar. That seems very intuitive! However calorie counting may prevent you from learning to rely on your hunger/fullness cues to decide how much to eat. Furthermore, you may choose lower calorie foods which may not satisfy hunger as completely or as long as higher calorie food. Some people choose to eat large portions of lower calorie (or fat free) foods. Then they may feel physically full, but not satisfied. If they relied on their internal cues of how they felt during and several hourse after meals, they might instead choose smaller portions of higher calorie (higher fats and/or protein containing) foods, which kept them unhungry longer. Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. SUE > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a day. It > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also like eating > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? Can I > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act like a > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate the way I > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just give up > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these issues. > > Alia > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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