Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little mate We had this discussion at work a while back, and basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's just an abbreviation that some people are using to add length to their signature. It looks great on a resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all know that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, EMTI, EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the same way about using the National Registry initials. I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel it's just a waste of ink. Jeff Rob wrote: Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of certification or licensure level. Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, it's just another merit badge. So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal status above others? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little mate We had this discussion at work a while back, and basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's just an abbreviation that some people are using to add length to their signature. It looks great on a resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all know that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, EMTI, EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the same way about using the National Registry initials. I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel it's just a waste of ink. Jeff Rob wrote: Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of certification or licensure level. Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, it's just another merit badge. So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal status above others? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little mate We had this discussion at work a while back, and basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's just an abbreviation that some people are using to add length to their signature. It looks great on a resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all know that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, EMTI, EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the same way about using the National Registry initials. I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel it's just a waste of ink. Jeff Rob wrote: Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of certification or licensure level. Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, it's just another merit badge. So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal status above others? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little mate > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's just > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > length to their signature. It looks great on a > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all know > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, EMTI, > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > same way about using the National Registry initials. > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > it's just a waste of ink. > > Jeff > > Rob wrote: > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot > of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of > the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable > organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little mate > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's just > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > length to their signature. It looks great on a > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all know > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, EMTI, > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > same way about using the National Registry initials. > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > it's just a waste of ink. > > Jeff > > Rob wrote: > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot > of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of > the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable > organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little mate > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's just > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > length to their signature. It looks great on a > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all know > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, EMTI, > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > same way about using the National Registry initials. > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > it's just a waste of ink. > > Jeff > > Rob wrote: > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot > of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of > the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable > organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 If it is CCEMTP then it's the program initials. If it's CCEMT-P it's for the paramedic. If you paid the amount that it costs out of pocket and went throught the course you'd use the initials too. This one I think because of the price and the knowledge is more than a merit badge like PALS, ACLS. Not everyone out there is certified as such. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- salvador capuchino wrote: > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. > Salvador Capuchino EMT-P > > --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > > > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little > mate > > > > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's > just > > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > > length to their signature. It looks great on a > > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all > know > > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, > EMTI, > > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > > same way about using the National Registry > initials. > > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > > it's just a waste of ink. > > > > Jeff > > > > Rob wrote: > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot > > of people using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of > > the initials. After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 If it is CCEMTP then it's the program initials. If it's CCEMT-P it's for the paramedic. If you paid the amount that it costs out of pocket and went throught the course you'd use the initials too. This one I think because of the price and the knowledge is more than a merit badge like PALS, ACLS. Not everyone out there is certified as such. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- salvador capuchino wrote: > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. > Salvador Capuchino EMT-P > > --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > > > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little > mate > > > > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's > just > > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > > length to their signature. It looks great on a > > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all > know > > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, > EMTI, > > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > > same way about using the National Registry > initials. > > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > > it's just a waste of ink. > > > > Jeff > > > > Rob wrote: > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot > > of people using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of > > the initials. After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 If it is CCEMTP then it's the program initials. If it's CCEMT-P it's for the paramedic. If you paid the amount that it costs out of pocket and went throught the course you'd use the initials too. This one I think because of the price and the knowledge is more than a merit badge like PALS, ACLS. Not everyone out there is certified as such. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- salvador capuchino wrote: > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. > Salvador Capuchino EMT-P > > --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > > > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little > mate > > > > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's > just > > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > > length to their signature. It looks great on a > > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all > know > > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, > EMTI, > > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > > same way about using the National Registry > initials. > > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > > it's just a waste of ink. > > > > Jeff > > > > Rob wrote: > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot > > of people using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of > > the initials. After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 salvador capuchino <scapuchino@y...> wrote: > > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. According to whom? That is the question I am asking. Not according to UMBC. Not according to the National Registry. Not according to any state that I am aware of. So who exactly is sanctioning the legitimacy of this " credential? " Looks to me like it's just something a bunch of people unilaterally decided to do without official sanction. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 salvador capuchino <scapuchino@y...> wrote: > > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. According to whom? That is the question I am asking. Not according to UMBC. Not according to the National Registry. Not according to any state that I am aware of. So who exactly is sanctioning the legitimacy of this " credential? " Looks to me like it's just something a bunch of people unilaterally decided to do without official sanction. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 salvador capuchino <scapuchino@y...> wrote: > > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. According to whom? That is the question I am asking. Not according to UMBC. Not according to the National Registry. Not according to any state that I am aware of. So who exactly is sanctioning the legitimacy of this " credential? " Looks to me like it's just something a bunch of people unilaterally decided to do without official sanction. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Rob, Salvador is wrong in his writing. You are correct. UMBC holds the patent on the program name and use of the CCEMTP initials. It means Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program, although UMBC also offers a patch and pin for Paramedics which states Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Paramedic (similar to the CCRN - which the course is based on). UMBC is the only agency sanctioning the CCEMTP program directly. They hold a patent on the program, it's core content, who may use the title, etc. In order to use it in your initials after your name, you must have successfully passed and shown proficiency in the several hundred hour (600 if I remember correctly)course. The test is more comprehensive than any other test I have ever taken with the exception of the FP-C test underwritten and backed by the Board for Critical Care Paramedic Certification. Some state the CCEMTP is a different certification level, other's don't recognize it. Per Medicare, in order to claim increased reimbursement for a CCT transport, you must have a person who has met these standards on board during the transport. Otherwise, you may not bill for CCT. To maintain it, you must obtain alot of specific CE not available throug the normal channels. This arguement has reared it's ugly head from time to time, and those who have gone thought the program whould considder it a certification. Anything you have to work that hard for is worthy of being called a certification. Anyone can get ACLS, PALS, CPR, BTLS, blah, blah, blah...........not everyone can pass the CCEMTP course completion test. Further more, less have passed the FP/C. I challenge you who have not gone forth and done so to go do both. Try it, and if they arne't the hardest things you have ever done, and you don't come out better prepared for your job afterwards, then I will allow you to say what you wish about it. However, until you have walked the walk, you have no right to talk the talk so to speak. Also, RT's, and RN's can take the course, if tey have enough experience and background in Emergency medicine and transport. the course does not mean Paramedic, it means Provider. If you have any questions about the CCEMTP program, write UMBC, they will provide you with everything you wish to know. CCEMTP is officially sanctioned by UMBC; there is no bastardisation of the term as it is used by them. Anyway, off of my soapbox. Take care, Blum, EMT-P/CCEMT-P/FP-C/EMT-Instructor > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Rob, Salvador is wrong in his writing. You are correct. UMBC holds the patent on the program name and use of the CCEMTP initials. It means Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program, although UMBC also offers a patch and pin for Paramedics which states Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Paramedic (similar to the CCRN - which the course is based on). UMBC is the only agency sanctioning the CCEMTP program directly. They hold a patent on the program, it's core content, who may use the title, etc. In order to use it in your initials after your name, you must have successfully passed and shown proficiency in the several hundred hour (600 if I remember correctly)course. The test is more comprehensive than any other test I have ever taken with the exception of the FP-C test underwritten and backed by the Board for Critical Care Paramedic Certification. Some state the CCEMTP is a different certification level, other's don't recognize it. Per Medicare, in order to claim increased reimbursement for a CCT transport, you must have a person who has met these standards on board during the transport. Otherwise, you may not bill for CCT. To maintain it, you must obtain alot of specific CE not available throug the normal channels. This arguement has reared it's ugly head from time to time, and those who have gone thought the program whould considder it a certification. Anything you have to work that hard for is worthy of being called a certification. Anyone can get ACLS, PALS, CPR, BTLS, blah, blah, blah...........not everyone can pass the CCEMTP course completion test. Further more, less have passed the FP/C. I challenge you who have not gone forth and done so to go do both. Try it, and if they arne't the hardest things you have ever done, and you don't come out better prepared for your job afterwards, then I will allow you to say what you wish about it. However, until you have walked the walk, you have no right to talk the talk so to speak. Also, RT's, and RN's can take the course, if tey have enough experience and background in Emergency medicine and transport. the course does not mean Paramedic, it means Provider. If you have any questions about the CCEMTP program, write UMBC, they will provide you with everything you wish to know. CCEMTP is officially sanctioned by UMBC; there is no bastardisation of the term as it is used by them. Anyway, off of my soapbox. Take care, Blum, EMT-P/CCEMT-P/FP-C/EMT-Instructor > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Well, I paid for and went through the AAS, ACLS, BTLS, PALS, Peace Officer, Instructor, (I’m sure there are more)…. Why would you want to add all that garbage to your signature line????? E. Tate, AAS, LP, CPR Instructor, ACLS, PALS, BTLS, Haz-Mat Operations, Intermediate Firefighter, Intermediate Fire Service Instructor, Police Academy Graduate, NIMS, MCTO-P, (and a few I can’t say in mixed company) …….. yada, yada, yada, yada P.S. I am thinking about taking that new “Sex in the City” college course…. Maybe I’ll add that to my signature line also……… salvador capuchino wrote: If it is CCEMTP then it's the program initials. If it's CCEMT-P it's for the paramedic. If you paid the amount that it costs out of pocket and went throught the course you'd use the initials too. This one I think because of the price and the knowledge is more than a merit badge like PALS, ACLS. Not everyone out there is certified as such. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- salvador capuchino wrote: > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. > Salvador Capuchino EMT-P > > --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > > > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little > mate > > > > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's > just > > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > > length to their signature. It looks great on a > > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all > know > > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, > EMTI, > > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > > same way about using the National Registry > initials. > > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > > it's just a waste of ink. > > > > Jeff > > > > Rob wrote: > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot > > of people using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of > > the initials. After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Well, I paid for and went through the AAS, ACLS, BTLS, PALS, Peace Officer, Instructor, (I’m sure there are more)…. Why would you want to add all that garbage to your signature line????? E. Tate, AAS, LP, CPR Instructor, ACLS, PALS, BTLS, Haz-Mat Operations, Intermediate Firefighter, Intermediate Fire Service Instructor, Police Academy Graduate, NIMS, MCTO-P, (and a few I can’t say in mixed company) …….. yada, yada, yada, yada P.S. I am thinking about taking that new “Sex in the City” college course…. Maybe I’ll add that to my signature line also……… salvador capuchino wrote: If it is CCEMTP then it's the program initials. If it's CCEMT-P it's for the paramedic. If you paid the amount that it costs out of pocket and went throught the course you'd use the initials too. This one I think because of the price and the knowledge is more than a merit badge like PALS, ACLS. Not everyone out there is certified as such. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- salvador capuchino wrote: > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. > Salvador Capuchino EMT-P > > --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > > > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little > mate > > > > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's > just > > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > > length to their signature. It looks great on a > > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all > know > > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, > EMTI, > > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > > same way about using the National Registry > initials. > > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > > it's just a waste of ink. > > > > Jeff > > > > Rob wrote: > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot > > of people using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of > > the initials. After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Well, I paid for and went through the AAS, ACLS, BTLS, PALS, Peace Officer, Instructor, (I’m sure there are more)…. Why would you want to add all that garbage to your signature line????? E. Tate, AAS, LP, CPR Instructor, ACLS, PALS, BTLS, Haz-Mat Operations, Intermediate Firefighter, Intermediate Fire Service Instructor, Police Academy Graduate, NIMS, MCTO-P, (and a few I can’t say in mixed company) …….. yada, yada, yada, yada P.S. I am thinking about taking that new “Sex in the City” college course…. Maybe I’ll add that to my signature line also……… salvador capuchino wrote: If it is CCEMTP then it's the program initials. If it's CCEMT-P it's for the paramedic. If you paid the amount that it costs out of pocket and went throught the course you'd use the initials too. This one I think because of the price and the knowledge is more than a merit badge like PALS, ACLS. Not everyone out there is certified as such. Salvador Capuchino EMT-P --- salvador capuchino wrote: > Rob, actually CCEMTP stands for Critical Care > Emergency Medical Technician Paramedic. > Salvador Capuchino EMT-P > > --- Jeff Ellison wrote: > > > Wankers? You need to lay off the BBC a little > mate > > > > > > We had this discussion at work a while back, and > > basically came to the conclusion that yes, it's > just > > an abbreviation that some people are using to add > > length to their signature. It looks great on a > > resume, as does Tactical, IPMBA, PSDA Dive certs > > etc.... When it comes down to it though, we all > know > > that the Texas EMS applications list ECA, EMT, > EMTI, > > EMTP and LP for level of certification. I feel the > > same way about using the National Registry > initials. > > I used it in the military, since my EMT cert was > > through them, and my uniform patch was a NR patch, > > but unless Texas becomes a NR only state, I feel > > it's just a waste of ink. > > > > Jeff > > > > Rob wrote: > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot > > of people using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of > > the initials. After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Well put . I realized I was wrong right after I replied and checked the site. I did not think it was worth for me to continue and arguement I was not prepared to back up with facts the way you have . I was just getting tounge tied in my response, so I decided not to send it. Thanks for the clarification and I back your response 100%. After having paid all that money and the rigorous courses I do believe anyone who passed is worth using the initials after their name. Actually they have apparel where the initials are CCEMT-P which they spell out as Critical Care Paramedic. Salvador Capuchino EMT-Paramedic --- " Wallace Blum, EMT-Paramedic " wrote: > Rob, > > Salvador is wrong in his writing. You are correct. > UMBC holds the > patent on the program name and use of the CCEMTP > initials. It means > Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program, > although UMBC > also offers a patch and pin for Paramedics which > states Critical > Care Emergency Medical Transport Paramedic (similar > to the CCRN - > which the course is based on). UMBC is the only > agency sanctioning > the CCEMTP program directly. They hold a patent on > the program, > it's core content, who may use the title, etc. In > order to use it > in your initials after your name, you must have > successfully passed > and shown proficiency in the several hundred hour > (600 if I remember > correctly)course. The test is more comprehensive > than any other > test I have ever taken with the exception of the > FP-C test > underwritten and backed by the Board for Critical > Care Paramedic > Certification. Some state the CCEMTP is a different > certification > level, other's don't recognize it. Per Medicare, in > order to claim > increased reimbursement for a CCT transport, you > must have a person > who has met these standards on board during the > transport. > Otherwise, you may not bill for CCT. To maintain > it, you must > obtain alot of specific CE not available throug the > normal > channels. This arguement has reared it's ugly head > from time to > time, and those who have gone thought the program > whould considder > it a certification. Anything you have to work that > hard for is > worthy of being called a certification. Anyone can > get ACLS, PALS, > CPR, BTLS, blah, blah, blah...........not everyone > can pass the > CCEMTP course completion test. Further more, less > have passed the > FP/C. I challenge you who have not gone forth and > done so to go do > both. Try it, and if they arne't the hardest things > you have ever > done, and you don't come out better prepared for > your job > afterwards, then I will allow you to say what you > wish about it. > However, until you have walked the walk, you have no > right to talk > the talk so to speak. Also, RT's, and RN's can take > the course, if > tey have enough experience and background in > Emergency medicine and > transport. the course does not mean Paramedic, it > means Provider. > If you have any questions about the CCEMTP program, > write UMBC, they > will provide you with everything you wish to know. > CCEMTP is > officially sanctioned by UMBC; there is no > bastardisation of the > term as it is used by them. Anyway, off of my > soapbox. > > Take care, > Blum, EMT-P/CCEMT-P/FP-C/EMT-Instructor > > > > > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > Emergency Medical > Transport > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > lot of people > using the > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > some sort of > > certification or licensure level. > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > UMBC, I can find > absolutely > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > of the initials. > After > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > trained in the > CCEMTP > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > completion of the > course does > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > that such usage > would be > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > your name. > After all, > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > part of one's > credentials > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > reputable > organization? Or is > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > another one of > those silly > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > elevate their > personal > > status above others? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 You are right, there is some apparrel that is marked Paramedic in lieu of program, however, they are few and far between.....You might also notice, you have to be certified as a CCEMTP through UMBC just to order the apparrel. You have to have a current certification nunmber and the other information has to check out as well. It's like getting ahold of an FP-C patch. You just can't do it unless you have passed the certification exam and are an active certificant. > > > > > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical > > Transport > > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > > lot of people > > using the > > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > > certification or licensure level. > > > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find > > absolutely > > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > > of the initials. > > After > > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the > > CCEMTP > > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the > > course does > > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage > > would be > > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. > > After all, > > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's > > credentials > > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > > reputable > > organization? Or is > > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of > > those silly > > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their > > personal > > > status above others? > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 You are right, there is some apparrel that is marked Paramedic in lieu of program, however, they are few and far between.....You might also notice, you have to be certified as a CCEMTP through UMBC just to order the apparrel. You have to have a current certification nunmber and the other information has to check out as well. It's like getting ahold of an FP-C patch. You just can't do it unless you have passed the certification exam and are an active certificant. > > > > > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical > > Transport > > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > > lot of people > > using the > > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > > certification or licensure level. > > > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find > > absolutely > > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > > of the initials. > > After > > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the > > CCEMTP > > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the > > course does > > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage > > would be > > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. > > After all, > > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's > > credentials > > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > > reputable > > organization? Or is > > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of > > those silly > > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their > > personal > > > status above others? > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 You are right, there is some apparrel that is marked Paramedic in lieu of program, however, they are few and far between.....You might also notice, you have to be certified as a CCEMTP through UMBC just to order the apparrel. You have to have a current certification nunmber and the other information has to check out as well. It's like getting ahold of an FP-C patch. You just can't do it unless you have passed the certification exam and are an active certificant. > > > > > > Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care > > Emergency Medical > > Transport > > > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a > > lot of people > > using the > > > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is > > some sort of > > > certification or licensure level. > > > > > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including > > UMBC, I can find > > absolutely > > > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage > > of the initials. > > After > > > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are > > trained in the > > CCEMTP > > > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And > > completion of the > > course does > > > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me > > that such usage > > would be > > > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after > > your name. > > After all, > > > it's just another merit badge. > > > > > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a > > part of one's > > credentials > > > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other > > reputable > > organization? Or is > > > this a bastardization of the the term, and just > > another one of > > those silly > > > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to > > elevate their > > personal > > > status above others? > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 CCEMTP stands for critical care emergency medical transport program. This is a certification offered for paramedics, nurses, PA's etc. There is a difference in the training and education received thus making the person obtaining this certification educated in areas most general paramedics are not. Most all flight services require this certification. This course also prepares those of us who want to take the FP-C exam. It is a great certification to have. Rob wrote: Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of certification or licensure level. Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, it's just another merit badge. So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal status above others? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 After sitting through and competing a Critical Care Paramedic Course, I could not recommend another course that I feel would be as educational as this one. The education I received during this course was in no way comparable to my paramedic education. It far exceeded my EMS training. I am proud to have CCEMT-P behind my name, although, I don't actually use the initials when I sign my name. I am equally proud to be Nationally Registered and use those initials instead. If you haven't taken a CCEMTP course then I suggest taking one, but be aware, it is probably the most intense EMS training program you will ever take. Matt Director of EMS Texas City EMS Texas City, Texas Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 After sitting through and competing a Critical Care Paramedic Course, I could not recommend another course that I feel would be as educational as this one. The education I received during this course was in no way comparable to my paramedic education. It far exceeded my EMS training. I am proud to have CCEMT-P behind my name, although, I don't actually use the initials when I sign my name. I am equally proud to be Nationally Registered and use those initials instead. If you haven't taken a CCEMTP course then I suggest taking one, but be aware, it is probably the most intense EMS training program you will ever take. Matt Director of EMS Texas City EMS Texas City, Texas Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 After sitting through and competing a Critical Care Paramedic Course, I could not recommend another course that I feel would be as educational as this one. The education I received during this course was in no way comparable to my paramedic education. It far exceeded my EMS training. I am proud to have CCEMT-P behind my name, although, I don't actually use the initials when I sign my name. I am equally proud to be Nationally Registered and use those initials instead. If you haven't taken a CCEMTP course then I suggest taking one, but be aware, it is probably the most intense EMS training program you will ever take. Matt Director of EMS Texas City EMS Texas City, Texas Of course, CCEMTP stands for the " Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport > Program " run by UMBC. However, I am noticing a lot of people using the > initials " CCEMT-P " in their signatures as if it is some sort of > certification or licensure level. > > Perusing the various CCEMTP websites, including UMBC, I can find absolutely > no reference to this as being a legitimate usage of the initials. After > all, multiple levels of healthcare provider are trained in the CCEMTP > course, including Respiratory Therapists. And completion of the course does > not make them any level of " EMT. " It seems to me that such usage would be > about as logical as writing " CPR " or " PHTLS " after your name. After all, > it's just another merit badge. > > So, my question is, is the use of " CCEMT-P " as a part of one's credentials > officially sanctioned by UMBC or any other reputable organization? Or is > this a bastardization of the the term, and just another one of those silly > things that wankers do in a transparent attempt to elevate their personal > status above others? > > Rob > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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