Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 With all due respect, I think that adults have the free will to make decisions about what's right for them. My only concern with this discussion is that, as of late, the EMS related conversations have been overwhelmed by those with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion over " the seven dirty words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining y'all in saying " Merry Christmas. " What I find offensive are the indignant, self-appointed morality police that have more in common with the Taliban or the Saudi Wahabis than they do with ANY American tradition. I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play " Inherit the Wind " regarding profanity. " There are too damned few words in the English language, and I intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, those include the " Seven Words You Can't Say On Television. " In other words, the freedoms we cherish are partially protected by those who advocate positions or say things that the rest of us may find repugnant. F*** yeah! ;-) -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: -Wes, Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to me, and the people who respond to the poll will determine what is offensive to them. When I signed on to the list today it told me there were 1,729 members. I'm willing to bet the majority could tolerate hell or damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least when used in the context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm willing to bet they find the new poll about morons offensive too, and I'm willing to bet the same offender is responsible for both. The arogance is obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is right. And regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey attidue says it isn't political correctness. It is social correctness. It is about having a little respect for your audience and their sensibilities. Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. -- > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, > writes: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > Should the use of language commonly considered obscene or vulgar be allowed > on the Texas EMS? > > o Yes > o No > o Don't care > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 With all due respect, I think that adults have the free will to make decisions about what's right for them. My only concern with this discussion is that, as of late, the EMS related conversations have been overwhelmed by those with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion over " the seven dirty words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining y'all in saying " Merry Christmas. " What I find offensive are the indignant, self-appointed morality police that have more in common with the Taliban or the Saudi Wahabis than they do with ANY American tradition. I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play " Inherit the Wind " regarding profanity. " There are too damned few words in the English language, and I intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, those include the " Seven Words You Can't Say On Television. " In other words, the freedoms we cherish are partially protected by those who advocate positions or say things that the rest of us may find repugnant. F*** yeah! ;-) -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: -Wes, Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to me, and the people who respond to the poll will determine what is offensive to them. When I signed on to the list today it told me there were 1,729 members. I'm willing to bet the majority could tolerate hell or damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least when used in the context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm willing to bet they find the new poll about morons offensive too, and I'm willing to bet the same offender is responsible for both. The arogance is obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is right. And regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey attidue says it isn't political correctness. It is social correctness. It is about having a little respect for your audience and their sensibilities. Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. -- > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, > writes: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > Should the use of language commonly considered obscene or vulgar be allowed > on the Texas EMS? > > o Yes > o No > o Don't care > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:36:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, ExLngHrn@... writes: Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. -Wes Thank you young Barrister Wes! Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:36:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, ExLngHrn@... writes: Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. -Wes Thank you young Barrister Wes! Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:36:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, ExLngHrn@... writes: Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. -Wes Thank you young Barrister Wes! Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. , I took not one personal shot at you hence I guess you are wrong. I won't disintegrate to that level after all that's something I won't tolerate. Flame me all you want I just won't shoot at personalities, Or entire states for that matter unless it's in jest which I know this one wasn't. I'm devastated can't you tell? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. , I took not one personal shot at you hence I guess you are wrong. I won't disintegrate to that level after all that's something I won't tolerate. Flame me all you want I just won't shoot at personalities, Or entire states for that matter unless it's in jest which I know this one wasn't. I'm devastated can't you tell? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. , I took not one personal shot at you hence I guess you are wrong. I won't disintegrate to that level after all that's something I won't tolerate. Flame me all you want I just won't shoot at personalities, Or entire states for that matter unless it's in jest which I know this one wasn't. I'm devastated can't you tell? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 7:23:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, lnmolino@... writes: with all due respect I bet not a simple majority takes the time to vote in the aforementioned polls, hence they mean NOTHING to the 17XX members of this list. That sadly is a standard in the US, we bitch and moan about everything under the sun by do we take 30 seconds or so to vote? Hell no after all we have rights and all that. LNM BTW I voted in BOTH Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 7:23:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, lnmolino@... writes: with all due respect I bet not a simple majority takes the time to vote in the aforementioned polls, hence they mean NOTHING to the 17XX members of this list. That sadly is a standard in the US, we bitch and moan about everything under the sun by do we take 30 seconds or so to vote? Hell no after all we have rights and all that. LNM BTW I voted in BOTH Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 7:23:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, lnmolino@... writes: with all due respect I bet not a simple majority takes the time to vote in the aforementioned polls, hence they mean NOTHING to the 17XX members of this list. That sadly is a standard in the US, we bitch and moan about everything under the sun by do we take 30 seconds or so to vote? Hell no after all we have rights and all that. LNM BTW I voted in BOTH Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Ahhh... the difference between firearms and words is that the only thing injured by words are feelings. And the Constitution does not guarantee a right not to be offended. In other words -- SIMPLE SOLUTION -- If you don't like Lou, Gene, Mike, or even me, hit the F***ing delete button! :-) I can guarantee you that none of us will care. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:07:45 PM Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: But my friend as you well know, just because the first ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like the right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns does not give us the right to abuse the right by killing, murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used some if not most of those seven words, sometimes even while responding to a request from the boss that I did not agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I know not to use them on this list out of respect for not just the profession, but the people who read them. So if you choose to use them, remember there is a price to pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some coals for a while. Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > With all due respect, I think that adults have the > free will to make > decisions about what's right for them. My only > concern with this discussion is that, > as of late, the EMS related conversations have been > overwhelmed by those > with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion > over " the seven dirty > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining > y'all in saying " Merry > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > indignant, self-appointed morality police > that have more in common with the Taliban or the > Saudi Wahabis than they do > with ANY American tradition. > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > profanity. " There are too damned few words in the > English language, and I > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > those include the " Seven Words > You Can't Say On Television. " > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > partially protected by those who > advocate positions or say things that the rest of us > may find repugnant. > F*** yeah! ;-) > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > Standard Time, > simple_emt@... writes: > > -Wes, > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to > me, and the > people who respond to the poll will determine what > is offensive to > them. When I signed on to the list today it told me > there were 1,729 > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > tolerate hell or > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least > when used in the > context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm > willing to bet > they find the new poll about morons offensive too, > and I'm willing > to bet the same offender is responsible for both. > The arogance is > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is > right. And > regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey > attidue says it > isn't political correctness. It is social > correctness. It is about > having a little respect for your audience and their > sensibilities. > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > schools, but they sure > did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina > attitude. > > -- > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is > obscene or vulgar? > For > > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " > vulgar. > > > > -Wes > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central > Standard Time, > > writes: > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > created for the > > group: > > > > Should the use of language commonly considered > obscene or vulgar > be allowed > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > o Yes > > o No > > o Don't care > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll > votes are > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to > the Yahoo! > Groups > > web site listed above. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Ahhh... the difference between firearms and words is that the only thing injured by words are feelings. And the Constitution does not guarantee a right not to be offended. In other words -- SIMPLE SOLUTION -- If you don't like Lou, Gene, Mike, or even me, hit the F***ing delete button! :-) I can guarantee you that none of us will care. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:07:45 PM Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: But my friend as you well know, just because the first ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like the right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns does not give us the right to abuse the right by killing, murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used some if not most of those seven words, sometimes even while responding to a request from the boss that I did not agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I know not to use them on this list out of respect for not just the profession, but the people who read them. So if you choose to use them, remember there is a price to pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some coals for a while. Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > With all due respect, I think that adults have the > free will to make > decisions about what's right for them. My only > concern with this discussion is that, > as of late, the EMS related conversations have been > overwhelmed by those > with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion > over " the seven dirty > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining > y'all in saying " Merry > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > indignant, self-appointed morality police > that have more in common with the Taliban or the > Saudi Wahabis than they do > with ANY American tradition. > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > profanity. " There are too damned few words in the > English language, and I > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > those include the " Seven Words > You Can't Say On Television. " > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > partially protected by those who > advocate positions or say things that the rest of us > may find repugnant. > F*** yeah! ;-) > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > Standard Time, > simple_emt@... writes: > > -Wes, > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to > me, and the > people who respond to the poll will determine what > is offensive to > them. When I signed on to the list today it told me > there were 1,729 > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > tolerate hell or > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least > when used in the > context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm > willing to bet > they find the new poll about morons offensive too, > and I'm willing > to bet the same offender is responsible for both. > The arogance is > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is > right. And > regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey > attidue says it > isn't political correctness. It is social > correctness. It is about > having a little respect for your audience and their > sensibilities. > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > schools, but they sure > did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina > attitude. > > -- > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is > obscene or vulgar? > For > > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " > vulgar. > > > > -Wes > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central > Standard Time, > > writes: > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > created for the > > group: > > > > Should the use of language commonly considered > obscene or vulgar > be allowed > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > o Yes > > o No > > o Don't care > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll > votes are > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to > the Yahoo! > Groups > > web site listed above. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Ahhh... the difference between firearms and words is that the only thing injured by words are feelings. And the Constitution does not guarantee a right not to be offended. In other words -- SIMPLE SOLUTION -- If you don't like Lou, Gene, Mike, or even me, hit the F***ing delete button! :-) I can guarantee you that none of us will care. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:07:45 PM Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: But my friend as you well know, just because the first ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like the right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns does not give us the right to abuse the right by killing, murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used some if not most of those seven words, sometimes even while responding to a request from the boss that I did not agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I know not to use them on this list out of respect for not just the profession, but the people who read them. So if you choose to use them, remember there is a price to pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some coals for a while. Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > With all due respect, I think that adults have the > free will to make > decisions about what's right for them. My only > concern with this discussion is that, > as of late, the EMS related conversations have been > overwhelmed by those > with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion > over " the seven dirty > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining > y'all in saying " Merry > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > indignant, self-appointed morality police > that have more in common with the Taliban or the > Saudi Wahabis than they do > with ANY American tradition. > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > profanity. " There are too damned few words in the > English language, and I > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > those include the " Seven Words > You Can't Say On Television. " > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > partially protected by those who > advocate positions or say things that the rest of us > may find repugnant. > F*** yeah! ;-) > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > Standard Time, > simple_emt@... writes: > > -Wes, > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to > me, and the > people who respond to the poll will determine what > is offensive to > them. When I signed on to the list today it told me > there were 1,729 > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > tolerate hell or > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least > when used in the > context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm > willing to bet > they find the new poll about morons offensive too, > and I'm willing > to bet the same offender is responsible for both. > The arogance is > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is > right. And > regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey > attidue says it > isn't political correctness. It is social > correctness. It is about > having a little respect for your audience and their > sensibilities. > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > schools, but they sure > did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina > attitude. > > -- > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is > obscene or vulgar? > For > > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " > vulgar. > > > > -Wes > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central > Standard Time, > > writes: > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > created for the > > group: > > > > Should the use of language commonly considered > obscene or vulgar > be allowed > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > o Yes > > o No > > o Don't care > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll > votes are > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to > the Yahoo! > Groups > > web site listed above. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:07:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: So if you choose to use them, remember there is a price to pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some coals for a while. Yea maybe but that too is in the eye of the beholder after all not everyone has beliefs that mirror the Judo-Christian versions of Heaven and Hell now do they? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:07:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: So if you choose to use them, remember there is a price to pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some coals for a while. Yea maybe but that too is in the eye of the beholder after all not everyone has beliefs that mirror the Judo-Christian versions of Heaven and Hell now do they? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:07:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: So if you choose to use them, remember there is a price to pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some coals for a while. Yea maybe but that too is in the eye of the beholder after all not everyone has beliefs that mirror the Judo-Christian versions of Heaven and Hell now do they? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Sal -- at which point did I engage in an hominem attack? -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:19:51 PM Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: I guess in other words, If you can dish it out, you best well take it too. You can attack me personally and I know not to take it personal. We are all entitled to our opinions. It is just sad when you take things personal when your language is offensive to some in the first place. Deal with the repercussions and let's move on to another subject. Can't we all just get along? Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- salvador capuchino wrote: > But my friend as you well know, just because the > first > ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not > mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like > the > right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns > does > not give us the right to abuse the right by killing, > murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used some > if not most of those seven words, sometimes even > while > responding to a request from the boss that I did not > agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I know > not > to use them on this list out of respect for not just > the profession, but the people who read them. So if > you choose to use them, remember there is a price to > pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some > coals > for a while. > Salvador Capuchino Jr > EMT-Paramedic > > --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > > > > With all due respect, I think that adults have the > > free will to make > > decisions about what's right for them. My only > > concern with this discussion is that, > > as of late, the EMS related conversations have > been > > overwhelmed by those > > with a social agenda -- whether it is the > discussion > > over " the seven dirty > > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not > joining > > y'all in saying " Merry > > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > > indignant, self-appointed morality police > > that have more in common with the Taliban or the > > Saudi Wahabis than they do > > with ANY American tradition. > > > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > > profanity. " There are too damned few words in the > > English language, and I > > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > > those include the " Seven Words > > You Can't Say On Television. " > > > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > > partially protected by those who > > advocate positions or say things that the rest of > us > > may find repugnant. > > F*** yeah! ;-) > > > > -Wes > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > > Standard Time, > > simple_emt@... writes: > > > > -Wes, > > > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to > > me, and the > > people who respond to the poll will determine what > > is offensive to > > them. When I signed on to the list today it told > me > > there were 1,729 > > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > > tolerate hell or > > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at > least > > when used in the > > context as it was and posted to a public list. > I'm > > willing to bet > > they find the new poll about morons offensive > too, > > and I'm willing > > to bet the same offender is responsible for both. > > The arogance is > > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what > is > > right. And > > regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey > > attidue says it > > isn't political correctness. It is social > > correctness. It is about > > having a little respect for your audience and > their > > sensibilities. > > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > > schools, but they sure > > did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina > > > attitude. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is > > obscene or vulgar? > > For > > > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " > > vulgar. > > > > > > -Wes > > > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM > Central > > Standard Time, > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > > created for the > > > group: > > > > > > Should the use of language commonly considered > > obscene or vulgar > > be allowed > > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > > > o Yes > > > o No > > > o Don't care > > > > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll > > votes are > > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go > to > > the Yahoo! > > Groups > > > web site listed above. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ------------------- > > -~--> > > > Does he tell you he loves you when he hits > you? > > Abuse. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the group: Should the use of language commonly considered obscene or vulgar be allowed on the Texas EMS? o Yes o No o Don't care To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Thanks Sal. I rarely use profanity on the list, although there are times where a well-placed expletive delivers a message that " clean " words can't. Having said that, I believe this is an adult forum where we can choose which posts to read or reply to. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:37:56 PM Central Standard Time, scapuchino@... writes: Wes, my replies are generally not aimed at one specific person but to everyone in genral. I respect you, Gene, and Lou, regardless of anyone's choice of words. Your wisdom and insight into EMS related issues far out weigh anyone's choice of words. Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > Sal -- at which point did I engage in an hominem > attack? > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:19:51 PM Central > Standard Time, > scapuchino@... writes: > > I guess in other words, If you can dish it out, you > best well take it too. You can attack me > personally > and I know not to take it personal. We are all > entitled to our opinions. It is just sad when you > take things personal when your language is > offensive > to some in the first place. Deal with the > repercussions and let's move on to another subject. > > Can't we all just get along? > Salvador Capuchino Jr > EMT-Paramedic > > --- salvador capuchino > wrote: > > > But my friend as you well know, just because the > > first > > ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not > > mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like > > the > > right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns > > does > > not give us the right to abuse the right by > killing, > > murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used > some > > if not most of those seven words, sometimes even > > while > > responding to a request from the boss that I did > not > > agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I > know > > not > > to use them on this list out of respect for not > just > > the profession, but the people who read them. So > if > > you choose to use them, remember there is a price > to > > pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some > > coals > > for a while. > > Salvador Capuchino Jr > > EMT-Paramedic > > > > --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > > > > > > > With all due respect, I think that adults have > the > > > free will to make > > > decisions about what's right for them. My only > > > concern with this discussion is that, > > > as of late, the EMS related conversations have > > been > > > overwhelmed by those > > > with a social agenda -- whether it is the > > discussion > > > over " the seven dirty > > > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not > > joining > > > y'all in saying " Merry > > > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > > > indignant, self-appointed morality police > > > that have more in common with the Taliban or > the > > > Saudi Wahabis than they do > > > with ANY American tradition. > > > > > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > > > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > > > profanity. " There are too damned few words in > the > > > English language, and I > > > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > > > those include the " Seven Words > > > You Can't Say On Television. " > > > > > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > > > partially protected by those who > > > advocate positions or say things that the rest > of > > us > > > may find repugnant. > > > F*** yeah! ;-) > > > > > > -Wes > > > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > > > Standard Time, > > > simple_emt@... writes: > > > > > > -Wes, > > > > > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene > to > > > me, and the > > > people who respond to the poll will determine > what > > > is offensive to > > > them. When I signed on to the list today it told > > me > > > there were 1,729 > > > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > > > tolerate hell or > > > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at > > least > > > when used in the > > > context as it was and posted to a public list. > > I'm > > > willing to bet > > > they find the new poll about morons offensive > > too, > > > and I'm willing > > > to bet the same offender is responsible for > both. > > > The arogance is > > > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about > what > > is > > > right. And > > > regardless of what our friend with the New > Jersey > > > attidue says it > > > isn't political correctness. It is social > > > correctness. It is about > > > having a little respect for your audience and > > their > > > sensibilities. > > > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > > > schools, but they sure > > > did in South Carolina. And I have a South > Carolina > > > > > attitude. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what > is > > > obscene or vulgar? > > > For > > > > example, some people consider " damn " or > " hell " > > > vulgar. > > > > > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM > > Central > > > Standard Time, > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > > > created for the > > > > group: > > > > > > > > Should the use of language commonly > considered > > > obscene or vulgar > > > be allowed > > > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > > > > > o Yes > > > > o No > > > > o Don't care > > > > > > > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web > page: > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > > > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. > Poll > > > votes are > > > > not collected via email. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Honestly, in most cases, the profanity does little to make the case. However, just like I would not advocate censoring the posts of those who misspell, I'd also not advocate censoring the posts of those who use profanity. I often laugh at both types of " list offenders, " although when I read Gene's profane tirades, I can't help but think of the Gabby knockoff character from Mel ' " Blazing Saddles. " It helps with lightening up the image. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:29:18 PM Central Standard Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: Wes, I do agree with you too...and it isn't about forcing people to fall in lock step and all do things the way some of us " goody two shoes (I believe was the quote) " want...I don't care... I got a kick out of Mike's story...but it would have been as effective as yours was using asterisks *** instead of the actual words...especially in the subject line. We proclaim professionalism on this list, and many of us are on this list to exercise our noodle and have fun, lively debate with other professionals...when this type post goes out, it reflects on all of us as professionals and it is inappropriate (not wrong...) for this forum... I for one cannot believe that we are willing to accept foul language over misspelling...'cause a misspelled word is unprofessional but using foul language is a right??? Confused on that one... Dudley Re: Re: New poll for With all due respect, I think that adults have the free will to make decisions about what's right for them. My only concern with this discussion is that, as of late, the EMS related conversations have been overwhelmed by those with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion over " the seven dirty words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining y'all in saying " Merry Christmas. " What I find offensive are the indignant, self-appointed morality police that have more in common with the Taliban or the Saudi Wahabis than they do with ANY American tradition. I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play " Inherit the Wind " regarding profanity. " There are too damned few words in the English language, and I intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, those include the " Seven Words You Can't Say On Television. " In other words, the freedoms we cherish are partially protected by those who advocate positions or say things that the rest of us may find repugnant. F*** yeah! ;-) -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: -Wes, Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to me, and the people who respond to the poll will determine what is offensive to them. When I signed on to the list today it told me there were 1,729 members. I'm willing to bet the majority could tolerate hell or damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least when used in the context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm willing to bet they find the new poll about morons offensive too, and I'm willing to bet the same offender is responsible for both. The arogance is obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is right. And regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey attidue says it isn't political correctness. It is social correctness. It is about having a little respect for your audience and their sensibilities. Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. -- > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, > writes: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > Should the use of language commonly considered obscene or vulgar be allowed > on the Texas EMS? > > o Yes > o No > o Don't care > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Honestly, in most cases, the profanity does little to make the case. However, just like I would not advocate censoring the posts of those who misspell, I'd also not advocate censoring the posts of those who use profanity. I often laugh at both types of " list offenders, " although when I read Gene's profane tirades, I can't help but think of the Gabby knockoff character from Mel ' " Blazing Saddles. " It helps with lightening up the image. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:29:18 PM Central Standard Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: Wes, I do agree with you too...and it isn't about forcing people to fall in lock step and all do things the way some of us " goody two shoes (I believe was the quote) " want...I don't care... I got a kick out of Mike's story...but it would have been as effective as yours was using asterisks *** instead of the actual words...especially in the subject line. We proclaim professionalism on this list, and many of us are on this list to exercise our noodle and have fun, lively debate with other professionals...when this type post goes out, it reflects on all of us as professionals and it is inappropriate (not wrong...) for this forum... I for one cannot believe that we are willing to accept foul language over misspelling...'cause a misspelled word is unprofessional but using foul language is a right??? Confused on that one... Dudley Re: Re: New poll for With all due respect, I think that adults have the free will to make decisions about what's right for them. My only concern with this discussion is that, as of late, the EMS related conversations have been overwhelmed by those with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion over " the seven dirty words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining y'all in saying " Merry Christmas. " What I find offensive are the indignant, self-appointed morality police that have more in common with the Taliban or the Saudi Wahabis than they do with ANY American tradition. I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play " Inherit the Wind " regarding profanity. " There are too damned few words in the English language, and I intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, those include the " Seven Words You Can't Say On Television. " In other words, the freedoms we cherish are partially protected by those who advocate positions or say things that the rest of us may find repugnant. F*** yeah! ;-) -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: -Wes, Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to me, and the people who respond to the poll will determine what is offensive to them. When I signed on to the list today it told me there were 1,729 members. I'm willing to bet the majority could tolerate hell or damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least when used in the context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm willing to bet they find the new poll about morons offensive too, and I'm willing to bet the same offender is responsible for both. The arogance is obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is right. And regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey attidue says it isn't political correctness. It is social correctness. It is about having a little respect for your audience and their sensibilities. Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. -- > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, > writes: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > Should the use of language commonly considered obscene or vulgar be allowed > on the Texas EMS? > > o Yes > o No > o Don't care > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Honestly, in most cases, the profanity does little to make the case. However, just like I would not advocate censoring the posts of those who misspell, I'd also not advocate censoring the posts of those who use profanity. I often laugh at both types of " list offenders, " although when I read Gene's profane tirades, I can't help but think of the Gabby knockoff character from Mel ' " Blazing Saddles. " It helps with lightening up the image. -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:29:18 PM Central Standard Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: Wes, I do agree with you too...and it isn't about forcing people to fall in lock step and all do things the way some of us " goody two shoes (I believe was the quote) " want...I don't care... I got a kick out of Mike's story...but it would have been as effective as yours was using asterisks *** instead of the actual words...especially in the subject line. We proclaim professionalism on this list, and many of us are on this list to exercise our noodle and have fun, lively debate with other professionals...when this type post goes out, it reflects on all of us as professionals and it is inappropriate (not wrong...) for this forum... I for one cannot believe that we are willing to accept foul language over misspelling...'cause a misspelled word is unprofessional but using foul language is a right??? Confused on that one... Dudley Re: Re: New poll for With all due respect, I think that adults have the free will to make decisions about what's right for them. My only concern with this discussion is that, as of late, the EMS related conversations have been overwhelmed by those with a social agenda -- whether it is the discussion over " the seven dirty words " or whether I'm going to hell for not joining y'all in saying " Merry Christmas. " What I find offensive are the indignant, self-appointed morality police that have more in common with the Taliban or the Saudi Wahabis than they do with ANY American tradition. I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play " Inherit the Wind " regarding profanity. " There are too damned few words in the English language, and I intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, those include the " Seven Words You Can't Say On Television. " In other words, the freedoms we cherish are partially protected by those who advocate positions or say things that the rest of us may find repugnant. F*** yeah! ;-) -Wes In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central Standard Time, simple_emt@... writes: -Wes, Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to me, and the people who respond to the poll will determine what is offensive to them. When I signed on to the list today it told me there were 1,729 members. I'm willing to bet the majority could tolerate hell or damn, but would find the f word offensive, at least when used in the context as it was and posted to a public list. I'm willing to bet they find the new poll about morons offensive too, and I'm willing to bet the same offender is responsible for both. The arogance is obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what is right. And regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey attidue says it isn't political correctness. It is social correctness. It is about having a little respect for your audience and their sensibilities. Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey schools, but they sure did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina attitude. -- > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is obscene or vulgar? For > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " vulgar. > > -Wes > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, > writes: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > Should the use of language commonly considered obscene or vulgar be allowed > on the Texas EMS? > > o Yes > o No > o Don't care > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 I guess in other words, If you can dish it out, you best well take it too. You can attack me personally and I know not to take it personal. We are all entitled to our opinions. It is just sad when you take things personal when your language is offensive to some in the first place. Deal with the repercussions and let's move on to another subject. Can't we all just get along? Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- salvador capuchino wrote: > But my friend as you well know, just because the > first > ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not > mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like > the > right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns > does > not give us the right to abuse the right by killing, > murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used some > if not most of those seven words, sometimes even > while > responding to a request from the boss that I did not > agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I know > not > to use them on this list out of respect for not just > the profession, but the people who read them. So if > you choose to use them, remember there is a price to > pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some > coals > for a while. > Salvador Capuchino Jr > EMT-Paramedic > > --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > > > > With all due respect, I think that adults have the > > free will to make > > decisions about what's right for them. My only > > concern with this discussion is that, > > as of late, the EMS related conversations have > been > > overwhelmed by those > > with a social agenda -- whether it is the > discussion > > over " the seven dirty > > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not > joining > > y'all in saying " Merry > > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > > indignant, self-appointed morality police > > that have more in common with the Taliban or the > > Saudi Wahabis than they do > > with ANY American tradition. > > > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > > profanity. " There are too damned few words in the > > English language, and I > > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > > those include the " Seven Words > > You Can't Say On Television. " > > > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > > partially protected by those who > > advocate positions or say things that the rest of > us > > may find repugnant. > > F*** yeah! ;-) > > > > -Wes > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > > Standard Time, > > simple_emt@... writes: > > > > -Wes, > > > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to > > me, and the > > people who respond to the poll will determine what > > is offensive to > > them. When I signed on to the list today it told > me > > there were 1,729 > > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > > tolerate hell or > > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at > least > > when used in the > > context as it was and posted to a public list. > I'm > > willing to bet > > they find the new poll about morons offensive > too, > > and I'm willing > > to bet the same offender is responsible for both. > > The arogance is > > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what > is > > right. And > > regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey > > attidue says it > > isn't political correctness. It is social > > correctness. It is about > > having a little respect for your audience and > their > > sensibilities. > > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > > schools, but they sure > > did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina > > > attitude. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is > > obscene or vulgar? > > For > > > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " > > vulgar. > > > > > > -Wes > > > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM > Central > > Standard Time, > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > > created for the > > > group: > > > > > > Should the use of language commonly considered > > obscene or vulgar > > be allowed > > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > > > o Yes > > > o No > > > o Don't care > > > > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll > > votes are > > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go > to > > the Yahoo! > > Groups > > > web site listed above. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 I guess in other words, If you can dish it out, you best well take it too. You can attack me personally and I know not to take it personal. We are all entitled to our opinions. It is just sad when you take things personal when your language is offensive to some in the first place. Deal with the repercussions and let's move on to another subject. Can't we all just get along? Salvador Capuchino Jr EMT-Paramedic --- salvador capuchino wrote: > But my friend as you well know, just because the > first > ammendment gave you the freedom of speech does not > mean that it should be abused either. Kinda like > the > right to bear arms. Just because we can own guns > does > not give us the right to abuse the right by killing, > murdering, etc. I am not perfect and have used some > if not most of those seven words, sometimes even > while > responding to a request from the boss that I did not > agree with. Yes I had to pay a price. But I know > not > to use them on this list out of respect for not just > the profession, but the people who read them. So if > you choose to use them, remember there is a price to > pay, either censorship or gettig to sit on some > coals > for a while. > Salvador Capuchino Jr > EMT-Paramedic > > --- ExLngHrn@... wrote: > > > > > With all due respect, I think that adults have the > > free will to make > > decisions about what's right for them. My only > > concern with this discussion is that, > > as of late, the EMS related conversations have > been > > overwhelmed by those > > with a social agenda -- whether it is the > discussion > > over " the seven dirty > > words " or whether I'm going to hell for not > joining > > y'all in saying " Merry > > Christmas. " What I find offensive are the > > indignant, self-appointed morality police > > that have more in common with the Taliban or the > > Saudi Wahabis than they do > > with ANY American tradition. > > > > I'd like to remind you of a quote from the play > > " Inherit the Wind " regarding > > profanity. " There are too damned few words in the > > English language, and I > > intend to use every one of them. " Sorry to say, > > those include the " Seven Words > > You Can't Say On Television. " > > > > In other words, the freedoms we cherish are > > partially protected by those who > > advocate positions or say things that the rest of > us > > may find repugnant. > > F*** yeah! ;-) > > > > -Wes > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:52:15 PM Central > > Standard Time, > > simple_emt@... writes: > > > > -Wes, > > > > Me, myself and I will determine what is obscene to > > me, and the > > people who respond to the poll will determine what > > is offensive to > > them. When I signed on to the list today it told > me > > there were 1,729 > > members. I'm willing to bet the majority could > > tolerate hell or > > damn, but would find the f word offensive, at > least > > when used in the > > context as it was and posted to a public list. > I'm > > willing to bet > > they find the new poll about morons offensive > too, > > and I'm willing > > to bet the same offender is responsible for both. > > The arogance is > > obvious. It isn't about rights, it is about what > is > > right. And > > regardless of what our friend with the New Jersey > > attidue says it > > isn't political correctness. It is social > > correctness. It is about > > having a little respect for your audience and > their > > sensibilities. > > Maybe they didn't teach respect in New Jersey > > schools, but they sure > > did in South Carolina. And I have a South Carolina > > > attitude. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my question..... who determines what is > > obscene or vulgar? > > For > > > example, some people consider " damn " or " hell " > > vulgar. > > > > > > -Wes > > > > > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 3:31:14 PM > Central > > Standard Time, > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been > > created for the > > > group: > > > > > > Should the use of language commonly considered > > obscene or vulgar > > be allowed > > > on the Texas EMS? > > > > > > o Yes > > > o No > > > o Don't care > > > > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//surveys?id=2085673 > > > > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll > > votes are > > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go > to > > the Yahoo! > > Groups > > > web site listed above. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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