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> I realize that I'm nothing but a fucking moron <

ok, the rest of your post is acceptable, but this is NOT. you are NOT a moron,

you're overwhelmed, that's all. nobody is expected to fall into this life and

know what to do with it, we're all learning along the way.

> Forgive me I'm tired, and I needed to scream.

Kris <

no need to apologize, that's what we're here for :)

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> I realize that I'm nothing but a fucking moron <

ok, the rest of your post is acceptable, but this is NOT. you are NOT a moron,

you're overwhelmed, that's all. nobody is expected to fall into this life and

know what to do with it, we're all learning along the way.

> Forgive me I'm tired, and I needed to scream.

Kris <

no need to apologize, that's what we're here for :)

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> I realize that I'm nothing but a fucking moron <

ok, the rest of your post is acceptable, but this is NOT. you are NOT a moron,

you're overwhelmed, that's all. nobody is expected to fall into this life and

know what to do with it, we're all learning along the way.

> Forgive me I'm tired, and I needed to scream.

Kris <

no need to apologize, that's what we're here for :)

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this is all totally allowable kris! excpet for the part where you call yourself

a moron. how do you figure that? i am sure you are not a moron. i am sure you

are tired and overwhelmed. we all are at times. (((kris)))) keep screaming!

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this is all totally allowable kris! excpet for the part where you call yourself

a moron. how do you figure that? i am sure you are not a moron. i am sure you

are tired and overwhelmed. we all are at times. (((kris)))) keep screaming!

michelle mg

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You're not allowed to feel stupid here. We ALL keep learning more about our

kids, no matter how long we've know what we're dealing with.

I hope you get some sleep SOON!

Sue

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You're not allowed to feel stupid here. We ALL keep learning more about our

kids, no matter how long we've know what we're dealing with.

I hope you get some sleep SOON!

Sue

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You're not allowed to feel stupid here. We ALL keep learning more about our

kids, no matter how long we've know what we're dealing with.

I hope you get some sleep SOON!

Sue

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Kristi,

You are NOT a moron. You're a tired mom in an

impossible sitaution. You didn't ask for this, none

of us did. Give yourself a break and lean on us

whenever you need to.

Take care hon

Tuna

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How much patience you have, for instance.

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Kristi,

You are NOT a moron. You're a tired mom in an

impossible sitaution. You didn't ask for this, none

of us did. Give yourself a break and lean on us

whenever you need to.

Take care hon

Tuna

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How much patience you have, for instance.

- lin P.

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I have talked with the docs about this and all but wanted your input everyone.

WIth the MicKey, what way have you found is the best to vent your child and how

much air do you get? I thought it was so much easier with his old

Gtube...either he doesn't retain much air or I am having a difficult time

venting him. Sometimes he does feel a little bloated, but yet I get nothing

out. Thoughts?

and Melton wrote: ,

also has a G-tube, and a few times we see a little bit of blood

come up into the tube. But, last summer we had a huge scare. We were venting

her, and out of nowhere, she vomits what looks like wet coffee grounds! It

freaked us out. Thankfully my aunt is a nurse, and we made a call to her

right away. By our description, she said it was " old " blood. About every 20

minutes, Meagan would woof up more blood. We started to think she was going

to bleed to death! We finally took her to the ER, where they admitted her

right away, and ran all the tests....hemoglobin, test to see if it was blood

she was woofing up, etc.. Sure enough it was blood, and no her blood levels

hadn't dropped. She does not have a nissen, but does has severe reflux, so

they scoped her to see if damage had occurred from her reflux. He saw

nothing, and went all the way down to her g tube site. While there, he

biopsied her stomach. Everything came back normal and looked fairly normal.

Inside of her stomach, at the tube site, was a little pink. He said that her

tube site may have been bumped hard, tugged at, or might have gotten caught

on something causing it to be tweaked too much. This sometimes causes a raw

area to bleed very slowly. I didn't buy this, because of the volume that had

come out of her. He then explained that it only takes a very little amount

of blood mixed with saliva, and other stomach juices, to look like a lot of

blood. He used a glass of water and a drop of red food coloring as an

example. He said the body sees blood as something that should not be there,

so the body wants it out. And, we all know that our mouth waters

horrendously before we vomit. She must have been feeling sick from the blood

mouth watering, swallowing it, and then losing it.

That was our experience...I only share it with you to help ease your mind.

, mommy to Meagan (CHaRgE) and 17 months, and big brother

3 1/2 years, married to the best daddy in the world for 9 years

-- Evan - G-tube - Blood - Help! (especially AZ Kim)

Below is Evan's blog entry from today. Let me preface it briefly by saying

Evan was supposed to have surgery yesterday (orchipexy/circumcision/tubes in

ears/repeat hearing tests), but it was cancelled because first he had a cold

and subsequently developed an ear infection. He is on antibiotics for the

ear infection and seems to be doing much better.

This morning Evan woke up around 6 am--his usual bright and happy self.

The antibiotics for his ear infection had kicked in, and the 24-hr urine

culture had come back negative. We finished off his over-night feeding, and

I gave him a bath around 7 am (Evan is definately a morning person!).

Around 7:45, I was in the kitchen getting all Evan's medicines drawn up to

give to him. was venting his G-tube (essentially burping--we

generally have to do this after each meal). called me back to the

bedroom. The entire length of tubing (about 8 inches of 1/4 " diameter

tubing) was full of a very dark brown fluid that looked like blood. We have

seen small amounts of blood in the tubing before (from suctioning), but this

was enough to send us into a small panic.

We called Dr. Oldham, who had us bring Evan right in (3rd office visit this

week!). He tested the fluid and confirmed it was blood, but it was " old "

blood (been there at least 24 hrs). We lavaged Evan's stomach (put in ~1 oz

of sterile saline solution, gently jiggled Evan around, and then sucked it

back out) and did not find any fresh blood. Dr. Oldham also checked his

hemoglobin levels (to make sure he has not been slowly losing blood and are

just now noticing it), which was fine. He also tested the stomach juice for

a bacteria H. pylori that is known to cause stomach ulcers, which was also

negative.

Dr. Oldham spoke with the surgical team at Children's who put in his G-tube,

repaired his hiatal hernia, and also performed the Nissen fundoplication

(the upper part of his stomach was wrapped around the esophagus to help with

the acid reflux). The surgeons want to see him Monday or Tuesday to run an

upper GI to help determine what is wrong.

There are three possible causes for the blood. First, he could have severe

esophagitis from acid reflux (given he is currently medicated for this, Dr.

Oldham doesn't think this is the culprit). Second, with all the stress he

has undergone in his short little life, he could have a bleeding ulcer.

Third, the Nissen could have come undone.

Evan is not in any discomfort at all. In fact, while we were waiting for Dr.

Oldham his was giggling and cooing away just like his old self. Part of me

is praying that it is not the Nissen failing, but then that is something

that can be fixed fairly easily surgically (I think now that he is bigger,

it could even be done laproscopically so the incision would be much smaller

than the first one). A bleeding ulcer sounds so horrible.

We will keep you all posted once we have some news.

I know that Kim has some experience with Nissen failure with Dylan. What

were the signs and symptoms that he had? Anyone else have a Nissen fail?

Anyone have any experience with bleeding ulcers?

Thanks for the help,

(mom to Evan, 8.5 months)

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I have talked with the docs about this and all but wanted your input everyone.

WIth the MicKey, what way have you found is the best to vent your child and how

much air do you get? I thought it was so much easier with his old

Gtube...either he doesn't retain much air or I am having a difficult time

venting him. Sometimes he does feel a little bloated, but yet I get nothing

out. Thoughts?

and Melton wrote: ,

also has a G-tube, and a few times we see a little bit of blood

come up into the tube. But, last summer we had a huge scare. We were venting

her, and out of nowhere, she vomits what looks like wet coffee grounds! It

freaked us out. Thankfully my aunt is a nurse, and we made a call to her

right away. By our description, she said it was " old " blood. About every 20

minutes, Meagan would woof up more blood. We started to think she was going

to bleed to death! We finally took her to the ER, where they admitted her

right away, and ran all the tests....hemoglobin, test to see if it was blood

she was woofing up, etc.. Sure enough it was blood, and no her blood levels

hadn't dropped. She does not have a nissen, but does has severe reflux, so

they scoped her to see if damage had occurred from her reflux. He saw

nothing, and went all the way down to her g tube site. While there, he

biopsied her stomach. Everything came back normal and looked fairly normal.

Inside of her stomach, at the tube site, was a little pink. He said that her

tube site may have been bumped hard, tugged at, or might have gotten caught

on something causing it to be tweaked too much. This sometimes causes a raw

area to bleed very slowly. I didn't buy this, because of the volume that had

come out of her. He then explained that it only takes a very little amount

of blood mixed with saliva, and other stomach juices, to look like a lot of

blood. He used a glass of water and a drop of red food coloring as an

example. He said the body sees blood as something that should not be there,

so the body wants it out. And, we all know that our mouth waters

horrendously before we vomit. She must have been feeling sick from the blood

mouth watering, swallowing it, and then losing it.

That was our experience...I only share it with you to help ease your mind.

, mommy to Meagan (CHaRgE) and 17 months, and big brother

3 1/2 years, married to the best daddy in the world for 9 years

-- Evan - G-tube - Blood - Help! (especially AZ Kim)

Below is Evan's blog entry from today. Let me preface it briefly by saying

Evan was supposed to have surgery yesterday (orchipexy/circumcision/tubes in

ears/repeat hearing tests), but it was cancelled because first he had a cold

and subsequently developed an ear infection. He is on antibiotics for the

ear infection and seems to be doing much better.

This morning Evan woke up around 6 am--his usual bright and happy self.

The antibiotics for his ear infection had kicked in, and the 24-hr urine

culture had come back negative. We finished off his over-night feeding, and

I gave him a bath around 7 am (Evan is definately a morning person!).

Around 7:45, I was in the kitchen getting all Evan's medicines drawn up to

give to him. was venting his G-tube (essentially burping--we

generally have to do this after each meal). called me back to the

bedroom. The entire length of tubing (about 8 inches of 1/4 " diameter

tubing) was full of a very dark brown fluid that looked like blood. We have

seen small amounts of blood in the tubing before (from suctioning), but this

was enough to send us into a small panic.

We called Dr. Oldham, who had us bring Evan right in (3rd office visit this

week!). He tested the fluid and confirmed it was blood, but it was " old "

blood (been there at least 24 hrs). We lavaged Evan's stomach (put in ~1 oz

of sterile saline solution, gently jiggled Evan around, and then sucked it

back out) and did not find any fresh blood. Dr. Oldham also checked his

hemoglobin levels (to make sure he has not been slowly losing blood and are

just now noticing it), which was fine. He also tested the stomach juice for

a bacteria H. pylori that is known to cause stomach ulcers, which was also

negative.

Dr. Oldham spoke with the surgical team at Children's who put in his G-tube,

repaired his hiatal hernia, and also performed the Nissen fundoplication

(the upper part of his stomach was wrapped around the esophagus to help with

the acid reflux). The surgeons want to see him Monday or Tuesday to run an

upper GI to help determine what is wrong.

There are three possible causes for the blood. First, he could have severe

esophagitis from acid reflux (given he is currently medicated for this, Dr.

Oldham doesn't think this is the culprit). Second, with all the stress he

has undergone in his short little life, he could have a bleeding ulcer.

Third, the Nissen could have come undone.

Evan is not in any discomfort at all. In fact, while we were waiting for Dr.

Oldham his was giggling and cooing away just like his old self. Part of me

is praying that it is not the Nissen failing, but then that is something

that can be fixed fairly easily surgically (I think now that he is bigger,

it could even be done laproscopically so the incision would be much smaller

than the first one). A bleeding ulcer sounds so horrible.

We will keep you all posted once we have some news.

I know that Kim has some experience with Nissen failure with Dylan. What

were the signs and symptoms that he had? Anyone else have a Nissen fail?

Anyone have any experience with bleeding ulcers?

Thanks for the help,

(mom to Evan, 8.5 months)

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I have talked with the docs about this and all but wanted your input everyone.

WIth the MicKey, what way have you found is the best to vent your child and how

much air do you get? I thought it was so much easier with his old

Gtube...either he doesn't retain much air or I am having a difficult time

venting him. Sometimes he does feel a little bloated, but yet I get nothing

out. Thoughts?

and Melton wrote: ,

also has a G-tube, and a few times we see a little bit of blood

come up into the tube. But, last summer we had a huge scare. We were venting

her, and out of nowhere, she vomits what looks like wet coffee grounds! It

freaked us out. Thankfully my aunt is a nurse, and we made a call to her

right away. By our description, she said it was " old " blood. About every 20

minutes, Meagan would woof up more blood. We started to think she was going

to bleed to death! We finally took her to the ER, where they admitted her

right away, and ran all the tests....hemoglobin, test to see if it was blood

she was woofing up, etc.. Sure enough it was blood, and no her blood levels

hadn't dropped. She does not have a nissen, but does has severe reflux, so

they scoped her to see if damage had occurred from her reflux. He saw

nothing, and went all the way down to her g tube site. While there, he

biopsied her stomach. Everything came back normal and looked fairly normal.

Inside of her stomach, at the tube site, was a little pink. He said that her

tube site may have been bumped hard, tugged at, or might have gotten caught

on something causing it to be tweaked too much. This sometimes causes a raw

area to bleed very slowly. I didn't buy this, because of the volume that had

come out of her. He then explained that it only takes a very little amount

of blood mixed with saliva, and other stomach juices, to look like a lot of

blood. He used a glass of water and a drop of red food coloring as an

example. He said the body sees blood as something that should not be there,

so the body wants it out. And, we all know that our mouth waters

horrendously before we vomit. She must have been feeling sick from the blood

mouth watering, swallowing it, and then losing it.

That was our experience...I only share it with you to help ease your mind.

, mommy to Meagan (CHaRgE) and 17 months, and big brother

3 1/2 years, married to the best daddy in the world for 9 years

-- Evan - G-tube - Blood - Help! (especially AZ Kim)

Below is Evan's blog entry from today. Let me preface it briefly by saying

Evan was supposed to have surgery yesterday (orchipexy/circumcision/tubes in

ears/repeat hearing tests), but it was cancelled because first he had a cold

and subsequently developed an ear infection. He is on antibiotics for the

ear infection and seems to be doing much better.

This morning Evan woke up around 6 am--his usual bright and happy self.

The antibiotics for his ear infection had kicked in, and the 24-hr urine

culture had come back negative. We finished off his over-night feeding, and

I gave him a bath around 7 am (Evan is definately a morning person!).

Around 7:45, I was in the kitchen getting all Evan's medicines drawn up to

give to him. was venting his G-tube (essentially burping--we

generally have to do this after each meal). called me back to the

bedroom. The entire length of tubing (about 8 inches of 1/4 " diameter

tubing) was full of a very dark brown fluid that looked like blood. We have

seen small amounts of blood in the tubing before (from suctioning), but this

was enough to send us into a small panic.

We called Dr. Oldham, who had us bring Evan right in (3rd office visit this

week!). He tested the fluid and confirmed it was blood, but it was " old "

blood (been there at least 24 hrs). We lavaged Evan's stomach (put in ~1 oz

of sterile saline solution, gently jiggled Evan around, and then sucked it

back out) and did not find any fresh blood. Dr. Oldham also checked his

hemoglobin levels (to make sure he has not been slowly losing blood and are

just now noticing it), which was fine. He also tested the stomach juice for

a bacteria H. pylori that is known to cause stomach ulcers, which was also

negative.

Dr. Oldham spoke with the surgical team at Children's who put in his G-tube,

repaired his hiatal hernia, and also performed the Nissen fundoplication

(the upper part of his stomach was wrapped around the esophagus to help with

the acid reflux). The surgeons want to see him Monday or Tuesday to run an

upper GI to help determine what is wrong.

There are three possible causes for the blood. First, he could have severe

esophagitis from acid reflux (given he is currently medicated for this, Dr.

Oldham doesn't think this is the culprit). Second, with all the stress he

has undergone in his short little life, he could have a bleeding ulcer.

Third, the Nissen could have come undone.

Evan is not in any discomfort at all. In fact, while we were waiting for Dr.

Oldham his was giggling and cooing away just like his old self. Part of me

is praying that it is not the Nissen failing, but then that is something

that can be fixed fairly easily surgically (I think now that he is bigger,

it could even be done laproscopically so the incision would be much smaller

than the first one). A bleeding ulcer sounds so horrible.

We will keep you all posted once we have some news.

I know that Kim has some experience with Nissen failure with Dylan. What

were the signs and symptoms that he had? Anyone else have a Nissen fail?

Anyone have any experience with bleeding ulcers?

Thanks for the help,

(mom to Evan, 8.5 months)

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My daughter is five and has had a MicKey button for about 4 years.

We vent her before every bolus feed. We find that if we vent her

first then sit her up with the tubing connected, air is pushed out.

We then do her flovent puffs (this takes 2-3 minutes), it usually

takes a little time for her burps to start. Finally, if she hasn't

burped during all this we massage her belly a bit. Hope this was

helpful.

, mom to Makenna

,

> also has a G-tube, and a few times we see a little bit

of blood

> come up into the tube. But, last summer we had a huge scare. We

were venting

> her, and out of nowhere, she vomits what looks like wet coffee

grounds! It

> freaked us out. Thankfully my aunt is a nurse, and we made a call

to her

> right away. By our description, she said it was " old " blood. About

every 20

> minutes, Meagan would woof up more blood. We started to think she

was going

> to bleed to death! We finally took her to the ER, where they

admitted her

> right away, and ran all the tests....hemoglobin, test to see if it

was blood

> she was woofing up, etc.. Sure enough it was blood, and no her

blood levels

> hadn't dropped. She does not have a nissen, but does has severe

reflux, so

> they scoped her to see if damage had occurred from her reflux. He

saw

> nothing, and went all the way down to her g tube site. While

there, he

> biopsied her stomach. Everything came back normal and looked

fairly normal.

> Inside of her stomach, at the tube site, was a little pink. He

said that her

> tube site may have been bumped hard, tugged at, or might have

gotten caught

> on something causing it to be tweaked too much. This sometimes

causes a raw

> area to bleed very slowly. I didn't buy this, because of the

volume that had

> come out of her. He then explained that it only takes a very

little amount

> of blood mixed with saliva, and other stomach juices, to look like

a lot of

> blood. He used a glass of water and a drop of red food coloring as

an

> example. He said the body sees blood as something that should not

be there,

> so the body wants it out. And, we all know that our mouth waters

> horrendously before we vomit. She must have been feeling sick from

the blood

> mouth watering, swallowing it, and then losing it.

>

> That was our experience...I only share it with you to help ease

your mind.

>

>

> , mommy to Meagan (CHaRgE) and 17 months, and big

brother

> 3 1/2 years, married to the best daddy in the world for 9 years

> -- Evan - G-tube - Blood - Help! (especially AZ Kim)

>

> Below is Evan's blog entry from today. Let me preface it briefly

by saying

> Evan was supposed to have surgery yesterday

(orchipexy/circumcision/tubes in

> ears/repeat hearing tests), but it was cancelled because first he

had a cold

> and subsequently developed an ear infection. He is on antibiotics

for the

> ear infection and seems to be doing much better.

>

> This morning Evan woke up around 6 am--his usual bright and

happy self.

> The antibiotics for his ear infection had kicked in, and the 24-hr

urine

> culture had come back negative. We finished off his over-night

feeding, and

> I gave him a bath around 7 am (Evan is definately a morning

person!).

>

> Around 7:45, I was in the kitchen getting all Evan's medicines

drawn up to

> give to him. was venting his G-tube (essentially burping--we

> generally have to do this after each meal). called me back

to the

> bedroom. The entire length of tubing (about 8 inches of 1/4 "

diameter

> tubing) was full of a very dark brown fluid that looked like

blood. We have

> seen small amounts of blood in the tubing before (from

suctioning), but this

> was enough to send us into a small panic.

>

> We called Dr. Oldham, who had us bring Evan right in (3rd office

visit this

> week!). He tested the fluid and confirmed it was blood, but it

was " old "

> blood (been there at least 24 hrs). We lavaged Evan's stomach (put

in ~1 oz

> of sterile saline solution, gently jiggled Evan around, and then

sucked it

> back out) and did not find any fresh blood. Dr. Oldham also

checked his

> hemoglobin levels (to make sure he has not been slowly losing

blood and are

> just now noticing it), which was fine. He also tested the stomach

juice for

> a bacteria H. pylori that is known to cause stomach ulcers, which

was also

> negative.

>

> Dr. Oldham spoke with the surgical team at Children's who put in

his G-tube,

> repaired his hiatal hernia, and also performed the Nissen

fundoplication

> (the upper part of his stomach was wrapped around the esophagus to

help with

> the acid reflux). The surgeons want to see him Monday or Tuesday

to run an

> upper GI to help determine what is wrong.

>

> There are three possible causes for the blood. First, he could

have severe

> esophagitis from acid reflux (given he is currently medicated for

this, Dr.

> Oldham doesn't think this is the culprit). Second, with all the

stress he

> has undergone in his short little life, he could have a bleeding

ulcer.

> Third, the Nissen could have come undone.

>

> Evan is not in any discomfort at all. In fact, while we were

waiting for Dr.

> Oldham his was giggling and cooing away just like his old self.

Part of me

> is praying that it is not the Nissen failing, but then that is

something

> that can be fixed fairly easily surgically (I think now that he is

bigger,

> it could even be done laproscopically so the incision would be

much smaller

> than the first one). A bleeding ulcer sounds so horrible.

>

> We will keep you all posted once we have some news.

>

> I know that Kim has some experience with Nissen failure with

Dylan. What

> were the signs and symptoms that he had? Anyone else have a

Nissen fail?

> Anyone have any experience with bleeding ulcers?

>

> Thanks for the help,

>

> (mom to Evan, 8.5 months)

>

>

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