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-prob a little gross for some-

started having reflux/vomiting after each meal!!!

He eats, then right after that, he starts burping and throwing up a

little. He does these " episodes " many many times with a separation of

approx 50 seconds. It's one after the other... :(

We suspected cream intolerance

Suspended cream

No result

We suspected egg intolerance

Suspended egg

No result

We suspected liquids bothering

Separated liquids from meals

No result

Keto team suggested aluminiun hydroxide/magnesia before eating each

meal

Made a little research, tried that

No result

We are quite desperate... My 3 year old - little guy is feeling

miserable...

In your experience, what did you do? How did you solve it? Any

feedback?

Thanks a lot!

Gilda

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Gilda,

I am wondering about the ratio. Is it too high for to tolerate? How

are his ketones? You may want to consider lowering the ratio.

How long has been on the diet?

Digestive enzymes might be helpful to . Do to the high fat content

may be having troubles digesting the food, hence he has a lot of gas.

Digestive enzymes can do wonders. These can be bought at a health food

store. Patti wrote a recent post on how to give them. Let us know if you

are interested. My daughter was not as extreme as 's present

situation, but she was headed in that direction. Two years ago this group

suggested the digestive enzymes. We tried them and had immediate

improvement.

Rhonda

-prob a little gross for some-

started having reflux/vomiting after each meal!!!

He eats, then right after that, he starts burping and throwing up a

little. He does these " episodes " many many times with a separation of

approx 50 seconds. It's one after the other... :(

We suspected cream intolerance

Suspended cream

No result

We suspected egg intolerance

Suspended egg

No result

We suspected liquids bothering

Separated liquids from meals

No result

Keto team suggested aluminiun hydroxide/magnesia before eating each

meal

Made a little research, tried that

No result

We are quite desperate... My 3 year old - little guy is feeling

miserable...

In your experience, what did you do? How did you solve it? Any

feedback?

Thanks a lot!

Gilda

" The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

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It is important to get medical advice from a professional

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Gilda,

My vote would be for reflux. There is a sphincter between the

esophagus (food tube) and stomache called the lower esophageal

sphincter (called LES) that is supposed to close after you eat so

the food and acid in your stomache doesn't come back up after you

eat. It's a common medical fact that fat (as well as caffeine,

smoking, spicy/citrus foods) keep the LES from closing properly,

causing heartburn in adults and spitting up in kids. Since the

ketogenic diet derives >90% calories from fat, it makes sense that

it would lead to reflux. Zantac is a common medicine for reflux.

It comes in a liquid, which probably has sugar, but a compounding

pharmacist should be able to make it from the adult tablet in a

liquid form. There are other stronger meds if the Zantac doesn't

work. I'd rec you ask you PCP if you can try it.

Debbie (mom to Bryce, 5)

> > -prob a little gross for some-

> >

> > started having reflux/vomiting after each meal!!!

> > He eats, then right after that, he starts burping and throwing

up a

> > little. He does these " episodes " many many times with a

separation of

> > approx 50 seconds. It's one after the other... :(

> >

> > We suspected cream intolerance

> > Suspended cream

> > No result

> >

> > We suspected egg intolerance

> > Suspended egg

> > No result

> >

> > We suspected liquids bothering

> > Separated liquids from meals

> > No result

> >

> > Keto team suggested aluminiun hydroxide/magnesia before eating

each

> > meal

> > Made a little research, tried that

> > No result

> >

> > We are quite desperate... My 3 year old - little guy is feeling

> > miserable...

> >

> > In your experience, what did you do? How did you solve it? Any

> > feedback?

> >

> > Thanks a lot!

> > Gilda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a last resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

professional keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

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Gilda,

My vote would be for reflux. There is a sphincter between the

esophagus (food tube) and stomache called the lower esophageal

sphincter (called LES) that is supposed to close after you eat so

the food and acid in your stomache doesn't come back up after you

eat. It's a common medical fact that fat (as well as caffeine,

smoking, spicy/citrus foods) keep the LES from closing properly,

causing heartburn in adults and spitting up in kids. Since the

ketogenic diet derives >90% calories from fat, it makes sense that

it would lead to reflux. Zantac is a common medicine for reflux.

It comes in a liquid, which probably has sugar, but a compounding

pharmacist should be able to make it from the adult tablet in a

liquid form. There are other stronger meds if the Zantac doesn't

work. I'd rec you ask you PCP if you can try it.

Debbie (mom to Bryce, 5)

> > -prob a little gross for some-

> >

> > started having reflux/vomiting after each meal!!!

> > He eats, then right after that, he starts burping and throwing

up a

> > little. He does these " episodes " many many times with a

separation of

> > approx 50 seconds. It's one after the other... :(

> >

> > We suspected cream intolerance

> > Suspended cream

> > No result

> >

> > We suspected egg intolerance

> > Suspended egg

> > No result

> >

> > We suspected liquids bothering

> > Separated liquids from meals

> > No result

> >

> > Keto team suggested aluminiun hydroxide/magnesia before eating

each

> > meal

> > Made a little research, tried that

> > No result

> >

> > We are quite desperate... My 3 year old - little guy is feeling

> > miserable...

> >

> > In your experience, what did you do? How did you solve it? Any

> > feedback?

> >

> > Thanks a lot!

> > Gilda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a last resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

professional keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

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Start small.....w/ like one quarter of a capsule. Enzymes aren't based on body

weight, they're dosed according to food volume. But you need to start with a

small amount and work up. The Zantac will probably work counter to the enzymes.

I would toss it completely, if possible. Unless you think it's working?

Certainly don't give it at the same exact time. You always give enzymes just

before the meal.

Patti

Re: Oh Please help... don't know what to do :(

I did search back on the posts, and from what I gather, and some

extra info I got from the Doose board. I learned quite a bit. The

only big question I have is the dosage.. How much can I give him?

The main enzyme pancreatin, and its " children " lipase, proteinase,

and the other one I don't remember.

But what I don't know is the dosage for a 3 year old, 17 kilos... How

many mgs can I give him of pancreatin?

And, can I give the enzymes together with the Zantac?

Thanks for all your replies...!!!

Patti, I hope you feel better soon...

Thanks

Gilda

" The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

List is for parent to parent support only.

It is important to get medical advice from a professional

keto team!

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