Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Actually , under the law, you can't specify a specific system though you can specify a wireless fm system. You can battle on this, but if they're willing to write wireless fm system, I'd go for it and save my energy for more important instructional goals. continuing IEP > I had Maggie's IEP last week. The meeting lasted two hours and we left with things unresolved, but mostly moving in the right direction. I came down with a sinus infection right after and haven't been able to follow up here as I would have liked. However, I've been mulling a few things over and would love some more help if possible! > > We went through all the goals and were able to agree on them. However, I do not feel that they are " measurable " as the language reads " in 2/3 trials Maggie will.... " but there is nothing in there about % correct or grade equivalent and how to really test for it. Last time around we had some goals that referred to her classwork, teacher checklists, observation, and the TOWL (test of writtten language). The team tried to drop the writing goal based on her average-high average scores on the test. There are about 10 sub-categories and in 2 she scored 25%....a big discrepancy between the other categories. They claimed this was still in " normal " range. I argued that the classwork and work at home supported the areas of weakness at 25% and they " indulged " me by keeping the goal. However, is it smart to continue these means of assessment - some subjective with one standardized test? Should the language read " at a certain percentile " ? > > One goal states that Maggie will verbalize writing before beginning when appropriate....I need some thing to define " when appropriate " and then how to test for this in measurable ways....Does anyone use standardized tests as their main means of assessment in all areas? > > One more thing...does anyone have familiarity with Fairfax County VA? There is a page where we check off all of the accomodations that are to be made (preferrential seating, regular feedback, consultation with HI and SPL, etc.) However, the team would not put " Phonax Microlink wireless FM - mlx " on that page and claimed we should put it on another page where we add " additional information " . They didn't want to be locked into one system in case " a better system " could be used. We said we didn't want a better system - because this one has worked well for Maggie - and since we all agree on that there should be no argument over it being an accomodation. They made us table it til the next meeting and suggested that it might be an issue that we brought to " the next level. " They claim that the " county doesn't want us to put a specific device on the accomodation page. " We said that raised red flags for us and that it seemed only right that it belonged there..... > > Sorry to go on and on....next meeting is Monday....I'm a little weary, but will pull it together by then.... > Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 , in regards to the " Maggie will " statements that are on your IEP with no percentage of how she will do. I want to make a comment that will probably help you out. They usually use that sort of basic statement as a goal, however there are ways of changing it to be more appropriate, if you feel that is too easy for her to make any improvement but she is doing it, you can say Maggie will do ----- at an age appropriate level, or if you feel it is too hard then you can say Maggie will make some improvement in ------. Do you understand? They will always start it with she will but you can manipulate it to be more appropriate for her or more attainable. In our IEP we were talking about improving signs and signing new signs. We didn't just put will improve his signing skills or will sign, we said will sign 5 new words by the end of the year, and will respond to 5 different sign commands by the end of the year. Seeing how they are using picture board communication with him for him to choose his own things, they are not working on him signing. So they are not following the IEP in that they are working only on him responding to signs and then instead of him signing they are working on him responding to pictures which is not ok in my book. That could help for somethings like sequencing but not as a form of communication for him in general. Anyway I hope that helps you to better break things down and get more spacific with it. continuing IEP I had Maggie's IEP last week. The meeting lasted two hours and we left with things unresolved, but mostly moving in the right direction. I came down with a sinus infection right after and haven't been able to follow up here as I would have liked. However, I've been mulling a few things over and would love some more help if possible! We went through all the goals and were able to agree on them. However, I do not feel that they are " measurable " as the language reads " in 2/3 trials Maggie will.... " but there is nothing in there about % correct or grade equivalent and how to really test for it. Last time around we had some goals that referred to her classwork, teacher checklists, observation, and the TOWL (test of writtten language). The team tried to drop the writing goal based on her average-high average scores on the test. There are about 10 sub-categories and in 2 she scored 25%....a big discrepancy between the other categories. They claimed this was still in " normal " range. I argued that the classwork and work at home supported the areas of weakness at 25% and they " indulged " me by keeping the goal. However, is it smart to continue these means of assessment - some subjective with one standardized test? Should the language read " at a certain percentile " ? One goal states that Maggie will verbalize writing before beginning when appropriate....I need some thing to define " when appropriate " and then how to test for this in measurable ways....Does anyone use standardized tests as their main means of assessment in all areas? One more thing...does anyone have familiarity with Fairfax County VA? There is a page where we check off all of the accomodations that are to be made (preferrential seating, regular feedback, consultation with HI and SPL, etc.) However, the team would not put " Phonax Microlink wireless FM - mlx " on that page and claimed we should put it on another page where we add " additional information " . They didn't want to be locked into one system in case " a better system " could be used. We said we didn't want a better system - because this one has worked well for Maggie - and since we all agree on that there should be no argument over it being an accomodation. They made us table it til the next meeting and suggested that it might be an issue that we brought to " the next level. " They claim that the " county doesn't want us to put a specific device on the accomodation page. " We said that raised red flags for us and that it seemed only right that it belonged there..... Sorry to go on and on....next meeting is Monday....I'm a little weary, but will pull it together by then.... Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 - Do you think it matters which page on the iep we are putting it on? Why the big to do on their part over not listing it under accomodations? continuing IEP > > > > I had Maggie's IEP last week. The meeting lasted two hours and we left > with things unresolved, but mostly moving in the right direction. I came > down with a sinus infection right after and haven't been able to follow up > here as I would have liked. However, I've been mulling a few things over > and would love some more help if possible! > > > > We went through all the goals and were able to agree on them. However, I > do not feel that they are " measurable " as the language reads " in 2/3 trials > Maggie will.... " but there is nothing in there about % correct or grade > equivalent and how to really test for it. Last time around we had some > goals that referred to her classwork, teacher checklists, observation, and > the TOWL (test of writtten language). The team tried to drop the writing > goal based on her average-high average scores on the test. There are about > 10 sub-categories and in 2 she scored 25%....a big discrepancy between the > other categories. They claimed this was still in " normal " range. I argued > that the classwork and work at home supported the areas of weakness at 25% > and they " indulged " me by keeping the goal. However, is it smart to > continue these means of assessment - some subjective with one standardized > test? Should the language read " at a certain percentile " ? > > > > One goal states that Maggie will verbalize writing before beginning when > appropriate....I need some thing to define " when appropriate " and then how > to test for this in measurable ways....Does anyone use standardized tests as > their main means of assessment in all areas? > > > > One more thing...does anyone have familiarity with Fairfax County VA? > There is a page where we check off all of the accomodations that are to be > made (preferrential seating, regular feedback, consultation with HI and SPL, > etc.) However, the team would not put " Phonax Microlink wireless FM - mlx " > on that page and claimed we should put it on another page where we add > " additional information " . They didn't want to be locked into one system in > case " a better system " could be used. We said we didn't want a better > system - because this one has worked well for Maggie - and since we all > agree on that there should be no argument over it being an accomodation. > They made us table it til the next meeting and suggested that it might be an > issue that we brought to " the next level. " They claim that the " county > doesn't want us to put a specific device on the accomodation page. " We said > that raised red flags for us and that it seemed only right that it belonged > there..... > > > > Sorry to go on and on....next meeting is Monday....I'm a little weary, but > will pull it together by then.... > > Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 - Do you think it matters which page on the iep we are putting it on? Why the big to do on their part over not listing it under accomodations? continuing IEP > > > > I had Maggie's IEP last week. The meeting lasted two hours and we left > with things unresolved, but mostly moving in the right direction. I came > down with a sinus infection right after and haven't been able to follow up > here as I would have liked. However, I've been mulling a few things over > and would love some more help if possible! > > > > We went through all the goals and were able to agree on them. However, I > do not feel that they are " measurable " as the language reads " in 2/3 trials > Maggie will.... " but there is nothing in there about % correct or grade > equivalent and how to really test for it. Last time around we had some > goals that referred to her classwork, teacher checklists, observation, and > the TOWL (test of writtten language). The team tried to drop the writing > goal based on her average-high average scores on the test. There are about > 10 sub-categories and in 2 she scored 25%....a big discrepancy between the > other categories. They claimed this was still in " normal " range. I argued > that the classwork and work at home supported the areas of weakness at 25% > and they " indulged " me by keeping the goal. However, is it smart to > continue these means of assessment - some subjective with one standardized > test? Should the language read " at a certain percentile " ? > > > > One goal states that Maggie will verbalize writing before beginning when > appropriate....I need some thing to define " when appropriate " and then how > to test for this in measurable ways....Does anyone use standardized tests as > their main means of assessment in all areas? > > > > One more thing...does anyone have familiarity with Fairfax County VA? > There is a page where we check off all of the accomodations that are to be > made (preferrential seating, regular feedback, consultation with HI and SPL, > etc.) However, the team would not put " Phonax Microlink wireless FM - mlx " > on that page and claimed we should put it on another page where we add > " additional information " . They didn't want to be locked into one system in > case " a better system " could be used. We said we didn't want a better > system - because this one has worked well for Maggie - and since we all > agree on that there should be no argument over it being an accomodation. > They made us table it til the next meeting and suggested that it might be an > issue that we brought to " the next level. " They claim that the " county > doesn't want us to put a specific device on the accomodation page. " We said > that raised red flags for us and that it seemed only right that it belonged > there..... > > > > Sorry to go on and on....next meeting is Monday....I'm a little weary, but > will pull it together by then.... > > Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 - Do you think it matters which page on the iep we are putting it on? Why the big to do on their part over not listing it under accomodations? continuing IEP > > > > I had Maggie's IEP last week. The meeting lasted two hours and we left > with things unresolved, but mostly moving in the right direction. I came > down with a sinus infection right after and haven't been able to follow up > here as I would have liked. However, I've been mulling a few things over > and would love some more help if possible! > > > > We went through all the goals and were able to agree on them. However, I > do not feel that they are " measurable " as the language reads " in 2/3 trials > Maggie will.... " but there is nothing in there about % correct or grade > equivalent and how to really test for it. Last time around we had some > goals that referred to her classwork, teacher checklists, observation, and > the TOWL (test of writtten language). The team tried to drop the writing > goal based on her average-high average scores on the test. There are about > 10 sub-categories and in 2 she scored 25%....a big discrepancy between the > other categories. They claimed this was still in " normal " range. I argued > that the classwork and work at home supported the areas of weakness at 25% > and they " indulged " me by keeping the goal. However, is it smart to > continue these means of assessment - some subjective with one standardized > test? Should the language read " at a certain percentile " ? > > > > One goal states that Maggie will verbalize writing before beginning when > appropriate....I need some thing to define " when appropriate " and then how > to test for this in measurable ways....Does anyone use standardized tests as > their main means of assessment in all areas? > > > > One more thing...does anyone have familiarity with Fairfax County VA? > There is a page where we check off all of the accomodations that are to be > made (preferrential seating, regular feedback, consultation with HI and SPL, > etc.) However, the team would not put " Phonax Microlink wireless FM - mlx " > on that page and claimed we should put it on another page where we add > " additional information " . They didn't want to be locked into one system in > case " a better system " could be used. We said we didn't want a better > system - because this one has worked well for Maggie - and since we all > agree on that there should be no argument over it being an accomodation. > They made us table it til the next meeting and suggested that it might be an > issue that we brought to " the next level. " They claim that the " county > doesn't want us to put a specific device on the accomodation page. " We said > that raised red flags for us and that it seemed only right that it belonged > there..... > > > > Sorry to go on and on....next meeting is Monday....I'm a little weary, but > will pull it together by then.... > > Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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