Re: connection between rT3 and growth hormone?

December 9, 2009

As a matter of fact I have done alot of research in this area as my

IGF-1 was non existant on labs for several years. However I was put on

GH and tried oit for abotu 7 months and it did nto raise my Igf-1 and it

DID raise my glucose ALOT more than I could tolerate meaning I was

probabyl not low in it at all. I sincerely doubt many of us are lwo in

GH and it shoudl NOT be taken unless oyu are as it can cause Diabetes.

So by all means get IGF-1 tested as thta is the marker for GH that is

most accurate, but be cautious even if it is lwo in trying GH. BTW it

did NOT affect my thyroid levels one bit.

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December 10, 2009

My mistake, it was not a 24 hour urine test it was a normal blood test...

> Dear Val,

>

> thanks a lot for the input. After your e-mail I went looking into my labs

(because I have labs of things I don't even know what they are), and there it

was, in a 24 hour urine test done in February this year:

>

> IGF-1: 408 ng/ml (95-248). It is actually quite high! I don't even know if

this is bad. My doctor looked at this labs and didn't say a thing...

>

December 10, 2009

Oh God, that was something I didn't want to hear... I am really scared to find

myself in her situation.

>

> An over range IGF-1 is not too uncommon as oyu are the sdecond person I

> ahve seen wih tit, BTW the other one also has unresolved thyroid

> resistance. And whan I say unresolved, I mean not evn T3 has worked for

> her at any dose. but then I have not seen alot of folks that have had ti

> tested.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

December 10, 2009

If there is anyone who is doing better with human growth hormone let us know.

Subject: connection between rT3 and growth hormone?To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:42 PM

I have been reading a scientific article because I wanted to understand a bit more about thyroid conversion (the production of T3 and rT3 from T4) and I came across a piece of information that is giving me a lot to think about and I wanted to share this concerns with someone that would care...I found that administration of growth hormone, reduces both T4 and rT3 and increases T3. That would be quite the thing we are looking for, wouldn't it?That started me thinking about the possibility that high rT3 is related with a low growth hormone level... although I have not read this anywhere and I guess it can not be concluded from the above statement. Also in another article it said that this effect "resolves" with time and the person comes back to his original state (this was concluded from children with normal thyroid function but who needed growth hormone).Is this something any of you have checked? I just feel

overwhelmed with information I don't know how to interpret. I started thinking whether I should consider a problem in the pituitary gland...Have any of you with a rT3 problem checked your growth hormone levels? What are your thoughts on the topic?------------------------------------

December 10, 2009

If there is anyone who is doing better with human growth hormone let us know.

Subject: connection between rT3 and growth hormone?To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:42 PM

I have been reading a scientific article because I wanted to understand a bit more about thyroid conversion (the production of T3 and rT3 from T4) and I came across a piece of information that is giving me a lot to think about and I wanted to share this concerns with someone that would care...I found that administration of growth hormone, reduces both T4 and rT3 and increases T3. That would be quite the thing we are looking for, wouldn't it?That started me thinking about the possibility that high rT3 is related with a low growth hormone level... although I have not read this anywhere and I guess it can not be concluded from the above statement. Also in another article it said that this effect "resolves" with time and the person comes back to his original state (this was concluded from children with normal thyroid function but who needed growth hormone).Is this something any of you have checked? I just feel

overwhelmed with information I don't know how to interpret. I started thinking whether I should consider a problem in the pituitary gland...Have any of you with a rT3 problem checked your growth hormone levels? What are your thoughts on the topic?------------------------------------

December 10, 2009

If there is anyone who is doing better with human growth hormone let us know.

Subject: connection between rT3 and growth hormone?To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:42 PM

I have been reading a scientific article because I wanted to understand a bit more about thyroid conversion (the production of T3 and rT3 from T4) and I came across a piece of information that is giving me a lot to think about and I wanted to share this concerns with someone that would care...I found that administration of growth hormone, reduces both T4 and rT3 and increases T3. That would be quite the thing we are looking for, wouldn't it?That started me thinking about the possibility that high rT3 is related with a low growth hormone level... although I have not read this anywhere and I guess it can not be concluded from the above statement. Also in another article it said that this effect "resolves" with time and the person comes back to his original state (this was concluded from children with normal thyroid function but who needed growth hormone).Is this something any of you have checked? I just feel

overwhelmed with information I don't know how to interpret. I started thinking whether I should consider a problem in the pituitary gland...Have any of you with a rT3 problem checked your growth hormone levels? What are your thoughts on the topic?------------------------------------

December 10, 2009

Valery, thanks a lot for the discussion, which is making me think and, as I read

new articles and internet pages, new ideas are coming to mind.

I actually have some sort of PCOS (and I mean some sort because I don't have

much visible symptoms, but apparently my hormones are disregulated in the way

they are in PCOS, so my doctor thinks I have this problem. Actually I have read

in some web pages that high IGF-1 occurs more often in women with PCOS.

I also have " a bit " of insulin resistance, meaning that I am keeping things more

or less under control, but the problem is there and I guess it will get worse

with time.

I wonder if these conditions can have something to do with my not doing so well

with Armour and the rT3 problem.

I just don't know what to do, maybe I should try to take these conditions more

seriously than I am doing now before trying a T3 only approach. Could taking

better care of these problems help with the rT3 as well?

>

> Well she has co-factors that are nto being addressed such as low

> estrogen. Borderline Diabetic as well which she is tryign to do

> somehting about but I am not sure how successful wiht it.

>

December 10, 2009