Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take.topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take.topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take.topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 most cases of hypothyroidism is caused byHashimoto's,which is an autoimmune disease( like MS,RA,Lupus and more)Hashimoto's is characterized by swings of hypo and hyperthyroidism, until the thyroid burns out and settles into only hyopothyroidism.Graves is another autoimmune thyroid disease, and that is hyperthyroidism. If you have one autoimmune disease, you are more likely to get more.... Also family history may play a role... not just hashimoto's but other autoimmune diseases, also. hope this helps hugs Feisty, proud group co-owner Re: weight issues I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take.topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! PersonalsSingle? There's someone we'd like you to meet.Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Yahoo! PersonalsSingle? There's someone we'd like you to meet.Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hashi's is an auto immune disorder... without going all the way into it... the antibodies cause damage to the thyroid gland, destroying gland tissue. As more and more gland tissue is destroyed the gland puts out less and less hormone. The quirk with Hashi's is the cyclical nature of it. As gland tissue dies and production decreases, antibody activity decreases. As the antibody attack wains the thyroid tries to kick itself back into gear, back into hormone production. During these cycles the thyroid will underproduce during antibody attacks and can over produce during periods when the antibodies are at a low ebb.... so a Hash's person will swing back and forth between hyper and hypo until the gland is damaged to the point where it can no longer produce enough, then the person is steadily more and more hypo until the gland is completely dead. Hashi's treatment seems to work best if the replacement hormone is given in sufficient doses to suppress TSH, which in turn suppresses thyroid gland function. Reduced gland function, reduced antibody activity. How long the cycles last, how severe they are... are very individual. For some folks the cycle can be days, or weeks, or months, or years, or even decades. Some have more noticeable extremes of hypo and hyper, some less so. Hypothyroid is low thyroid function. It can be from several different causes... the most common is Hashi's. Other causes are genetic defect, surgical removal of the gland, or the use of RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy a gland that is hyper active or has cancer. Weight gain is a common symptom of low thyroid levels. Low thyroid levels mean low metabolic rate. The lower the metabolism the fewer calories the body burns, the easier it is to gain weight. The best way to get weight management back under control is to get the thyroid hormone levels where they need to be for your body to be healthy. A healthy body naturally maintains a healthy weight. Until you get the hormones where they need to be... and that is a more finite level then that which is simply considered 'within normal range', you can pretty much starve yourself and still not gain weight... in fact, most hypos actually gain weight from not eating enough food... poor nutrition and being too restrictive with caloric intake reduces the metabolic rate even more than it already is from insufficient thyroid hormone levels. To compact it.... get the meds right, to get the hormone levels right, consume sufficient calories AND nutrition to promote a healthy metabolic level to complement the optimized thyroid hormone levels, and as your body starts to work correctly again, the weight will be naturally managed by your metabolism, as it is meant to. That's my story and I'm sticking too it..... *smile* It's been working for me... weight is finally coming off... slowing.. but surely, judging by how my clothes fit.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) LaDonna writes: I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hashi's is an auto immune disorder... without going all the way into it... the antibodies cause damage to the thyroid gland, destroying gland tissue. As more and more gland tissue is destroyed the gland puts out less and less hormone. The quirk with Hashi's is the cyclical nature of it. As gland tissue dies and production decreases, antibody activity decreases. As the antibody attack wains the thyroid tries to kick itself back into gear, back into hormone production. During these cycles the thyroid will underproduce during antibody attacks and can over produce during periods when the antibodies are at a low ebb.... so a Hash's person will swing back and forth between hyper and hypo until the gland is damaged to the point where it can no longer produce enough, then the person is steadily more and more hypo until the gland is completely dead. Hashi's treatment seems to work best if the replacement hormone is given in sufficient doses to suppress TSH, which in turn suppresses thyroid gland function. Reduced gland function, reduced antibody activity. How long the cycles last, how severe they are... are very individual. For some folks the cycle can be days, or weeks, or months, or years, or even decades. Some have more noticeable extremes of hypo and hyper, some less so. Hypothyroid is low thyroid function. It can be from several different causes... the most common is Hashi's. Other causes are genetic defect, surgical removal of the gland, or the use of RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy a gland that is hyper active or has cancer. Weight gain is a common symptom of low thyroid levels. Low thyroid levels mean low metabolic rate. The lower the metabolism the fewer calories the body burns, the easier it is to gain weight. The best way to get weight management back under control is to get the thyroid hormone levels where they need to be for your body to be healthy. A healthy body naturally maintains a healthy weight. Until you get the hormones where they need to be... and that is a more finite level then that which is simply considered 'within normal range', you can pretty much starve yourself and still not gain weight... in fact, most hypos actually gain weight from not eating enough food... poor nutrition and being too restrictive with caloric intake reduces the metabolic rate even more than it already is from insufficient thyroid hormone levels. To compact it.... get the meds right, to get the hormone levels right, consume sufficient calories AND nutrition to promote a healthy metabolic level to complement the optimized thyroid hormone levels, and as your body starts to work correctly again, the weight will be naturally managed by your metabolism, as it is meant to. That's my story and I'm sticking too it..... *smile* It's been working for me... weight is finally coming off... slowing.. but surely, judging by how my clothes fit.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) LaDonna writes: I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hashi's is an auto immune disorder... without going all the way into it... the antibodies cause damage to the thyroid gland, destroying gland tissue. As more and more gland tissue is destroyed the gland puts out less and less hormone. The quirk with Hashi's is the cyclical nature of it. As gland tissue dies and production decreases, antibody activity decreases. As the antibody attack wains the thyroid tries to kick itself back into gear, back into hormone production. During these cycles the thyroid will underproduce during antibody attacks and can over produce during periods when the antibodies are at a low ebb.... so a Hash's person will swing back and forth between hyper and hypo until the gland is damaged to the point where it can no longer produce enough, then the person is steadily more and more hypo until the gland is completely dead. Hashi's treatment seems to work best if the replacement hormone is given in sufficient doses to suppress TSH, which in turn suppresses thyroid gland function. Reduced gland function, reduced antibody activity. How long the cycles last, how severe they are... are very individual. For some folks the cycle can be days, or weeks, or months, or years, or even decades. Some have more noticeable extremes of hypo and hyper, some less so. Hypothyroid is low thyroid function. It can be from several different causes... the most common is Hashi's. Other causes are genetic defect, surgical removal of the gland, or the use of RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy a gland that is hyper active or has cancer. Weight gain is a common symptom of low thyroid levels. Low thyroid levels mean low metabolic rate. The lower the metabolism the fewer calories the body burns, the easier it is to gain weight. The best way to get weight management back under control is to get the thyroid hormone levels where they need to be for your body to be healthy. A healthy body naturally maintains a healthy weight. Until you get the hormones where they need to be... and that is a more finite level then that which is simply considered 'within normal range', you can pretty much starve yourself and still not gain weight... in fact, most hypos actually gain weight from not eating enough food... poor nutrition and being too restrictive with caloric intake reduces the metabolic rate even more than it already is from insufficient thyroid hormone levels. To compact it.... get the meds right, to get the hormone levels right, consume sufficient calories AND nutrition to promote a healthy metabolic level to complement the optimized thyroid hormone levels, and as your body starts to work correctly again, the weight will be naturally managed by your metabolism, as it is meant to. That's my story and I'm sticking too it..... *smile* It's been working for me... weight is finally coming off... slowing.. but surely, judging by how my clothes fit.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) LaDonna writes: I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 u know a lot about hashimotos thyroidyd,since I hate to type I will call it HT.....do u know what causes facial swelling or puffiness of the face,I hate that moon face ...it makes u look tired even more so,its hard 2 find a good doctor!!!!topper2@... wrote: Hashi's is an auto immune disorder... without going all the way into it... the antibodies cause damage to the thyroid gland, destroying gland tissue. As more and more gland tissue is destroyed the gland puts out less and less hormone. The quirk with Hashi's is the cyclical nature of it. As gland tissue dies and production decreases, antibody activity decreases. As the antibody attack wains the thyroid tries to kick itself back into gear, back into hormone production. During these cycles the thyroid will underproduce during antibody attacks and can over produce during periods when the antibodies are at a low ebb.... so a Hash's person will swing back and forth between hyper and hypo until the gland is damaged to the point where it can no longer produce enough, then the person is steadily more and more hypo until the gland is completely dead. Hashi's treatment seems to work best if the replacement hormone is given in sufficient doses to suppress TSH, which in turn suppresses thyroid gland function. Reduced gland function, reduced antibody activity. How long the cycles last, how severe they are... are very individual. For some folks the cycle can be days, or weeks, or months, or years, or even decades. Some have more noticeable extremes of hypo and hyper, some less so. Hypothyroid is low thyroid function. It can be from several different causes... the most common is Hashi's. Other causes are genetic defect, surgical removal of the gland, or the use of RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy a gland that is hyper active or has cancer. Weight gain is a common symptom of low thyroid levels. Low thyroid levels mean low metabolic rate. The lower the metabolism the fewer calories the body burns, the easier it is to gain weight. The best way to get weight management back under control is to get the thyroid hormone levels where they need to be for your body to be healthy. A healthy body naturally maintains a healthy weight. Until you get the hormones where they need to be... and that is a more finite level then that which is simply considered 'within normal range', you can pretty much starve yourself and still not gain weight... in fact, most hypos actually gain weight from not eating enough food... poor nutrition and being too restrictive with caloric intake reduces the metabolic rate even more than it already is from insufficient thyroid hormone levels. To compact it.... get the meds right, to get the hormone levels right, consume sufficient calories AND nutrition to promote a healthy metabolic level to complement the optimized thyroid hormone levels, and as your body starts to work correctly again, the weight will be naturally managed by your metabolism, as it is meant to. That's my story and I'm sticking too it..... *smile* It's been working for me... weight is finally coming off... slowing.. but surely, judging by how my clothes fit.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) LaDonna writes: I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 u know a lot about hashimotos thyroidyd,since I hate to type I will call it HT.....do u know what causes facial swelling or puffiness of the face,I hate that moon face ...it makes u look tired even more so,its hard 2 find a good doctor!!!!topper2@... wrote: Hashi's is an auto immune disorder... without going all the way into it... the antibodies cause damage to the thyroid gland, destroying gland tissue. As more and more gland tissue is destroyed the gland puts out less and less hormone. The quirk with Hashi's is the cyclical nature of it. As gland tissue dies and production decreases, antibody activity decreases. As the antibody attack wains the thyroid tries to kick itself back into gear, back into hormone production. During these cycles the thyroid will underproduce during antibody attacks and can over produce during periods when the antibodies are at a low ebb.... so a Hash's person will swing back and forth between hyper and hypo until the gland is damaged to the point where it can no longer produce enough, then the person is steadily more and more hypo until the gland is completely dead. Hashi's treatment seems to work best if the replacement hormone is given in sufficient doses to suppress TSH, which in turn suppresses thyroid gland function. Reduced gland function, reduced antibody activity. How long the cycles last, how severe they are... are very individual. For some folks the cycle can be days, or weeks, or months, or years, or even decades. Some have more noticeable extremes of hypo and hyper, some less so. Hypothyroid is low thyroid function. It can be from several different causes... the most common is Hashi's. Other causes are genetic defect, surgical removal of the gland, or the use of RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy a gland that is hyper active or has cancer. Weight gain is a common symptom of low thyroid levels. Low thyroid levels mean low metabolic rate. The lower the metabolism the fewer calories the body burns, the easier it is to gain weight. The best way to get weight management back under control is to get the thyroid hormone levels where they need to be for your body to be healthy. A healthy body naturally maintains a healthy weight. Until you get the hormones where they need to be... and that is a more finite level then that which is simply considered 'within normal range', you can pretty much starve yourself and still not gain weight... in fact, most hypos actually gain weight from not eating enough food... poor nutrition and being too restrictive with caloric intake reduces the metabolic rate even more than it already is from insufficient thyroid hormone levels. To compact it.... get the meds right, to get the hormone levels right, consume sufficient calories AND nutrition to promote a healthy metabolic level to complement the optimized thyroid hormone levels, and as your body starts to work correctly again, the weight will be naturally managed by your metabolism, as it is meant to. That's my story and I'm sticking too it..... *smile* It's been working for me... weight is finally coming off... slowing.. but surely, judging by how my clothes fit.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) LaDonna writes: I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 In most cases it's just the body being slow with all it's processes and its' water.... For me, maybe for you.... it's easier to focus on getting the levels right, your dose right... and helping your body work right, better, again... then so many of these bothersome things just seem to go away like they appeared in the first place. I know.. boy, do I know... it's REALLY hard to be patient as your body starts to heal.. but when you really stop to think about it... it took your body a long time to come up with all these things going wrong... big ones and little ones, it's gonna take a while for your body to right itself and the stuff to ease up again. Just don't let the docs ignore you, or your symptoms, stay on top of things, learn as much as you can so that you can stand your ground and the doc doesn't get to look down his nose at you, the stupid female..... Way too many docs have that attitude.. that women just make mountains out of mole hills and want to blame everything on their thyroids when all the problems are really from the fat that is piling on cuz of the woman parking her fat butt on the couch to watch soaps and eat chocolates all day.... I know some of us are too sick yet to do much more than watch TV some days, some days are worse than that and it's too much effort to watch TV... but I doubt VERY much if any of us are so ditzy that we sit around eating chocolates, or anything else for that matter, when one of the symptoms of thyroid disorder, be it hyper or hypo, is that our weight is out of control. Hyper makes us lose, hypo makes us gain... Hashi's makes us bounce all over the place and makes it hard to know what to do when and why it works right this time and not the next time.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) maria marinesi writes: u know a lot about hashimotos thyroidyd,since I hate to type I will call it HT.....do u know what causes facial swelling or puffiness of the face,I hate that moon face ...it makes u look tired even more so,its hard 2 find a good doctor!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 In most cases it's just the body being slow with all it's processes and its' water.... For me, maybe for you.... it's easier to focus on getting the levels right, your dose right... and helping your body work right, better, again... then so many of these bothersome things just seem to go away like they appeared in the first place. I know.. boy, do I know... it's REALLY hard to be patient as your body starts to heal.. but when you really stop to think about it... it took your body a long time to come up with all these things going wrong... big ones and little ones, it's gonna take a while for your body to right itself and the stuff to ease up again. Just don't let the docs ignore you, or your symptoms, stay on top of things, learn as much as you can so that you can stand your ground and the doc doesn't get to look down his nose at you, the stupid female..... Way too many docs have that attitude.. that women just make mountains out of mole hills and want to blame everything on their thyroids when all the problems are really from the fat that is piling on cuz of the woman parking her fat butt on the couch to watch soaps and eat chocolates all day.... I know some of us are too sick yet to do much more than watch TV some days, some days are worse than that and it's too much effort to watch TV... but I doubt VERY much if any of us are so ditzy that we sit around eating chocolates, or anything else for that matter, when one of the symptoms of thyroid disorder, be it hyper or hypo, is that our weight is out of control. Hyper makes us lose, hypo makes us gain... Hashi's makes us bounce all over the place and makes it hard to know what to do when and why it works right this time and not the next time.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) maria marinesi writes: u know a lot about hashimotos thyroidyd,since I hate to type I will call it HT.....do u know what causes facial swelling or puffiness of the face,I hate that moon face ...it makes u look tired even more so,its hard 2 find a good doctor!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 In most cases it's just the body being slow with all it's processes and its' water.... For me, maybe for you.... it's easier to focus on getting the levels right, your dose right... and helping your body work right, better, again... then so many of these bothersome things just seem to go away like they appeared in the first place. I know.. boy, do I know... it's REALLY hard to be patient as your body starts to heal.. but when you really stop to think about it... it took your body a long time to come up with all these things going wrong... big ones and little ones, it's gonna take a while for your body to right itself and the stuff to ease up again. Just don't let the docs ignore you, or your symptoms, stay on top of things, learn as much as you can so that you can stand your ground and the doc doesn't get to look down his nose at you, the stupid female..... Way too many docs have that attitude.. that women just make mountains out of mole hills and want to blame everything on their thyroids when all the problems are really from the fat that is piling on cuz of the woman parking her fat butt on the couch to watch soaps and eat chocolates all day.... I know some of us are too sick yet to do much more than watch TV some days, some days are worse than that and it's too much effort to watch TV... but I doubt VERY much if any of us are so ditzy that we sit around eating chocolates, or anything else for that matter, when one of the symptoms of thyroid disorder, be it hyper or hypo, is that our weight is out of control. Hyper makes us lose, hypo makes us gain... Hashi's makes us bounce all over the place and makes it hard to know what to do when and why it works right this time and not the next time.... Topper () On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) maria marinesi writes: u know a lot about hashimotos thyroidyd,since I hate to type I will call it HT.....do u know what causes facial swelling or puffiness of the face,I hate that moon face ...it makes u look tired even more so,its hard 2 find a good doctor!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Also family history may play a role... MY GRANNYCHICK ,OUR PLAY NAME, SHE HAD HERS TAKEN OUT. I GOT IT ABOUT 13 YEARS AGO AND MY MOM GOT IT ABOUT 3 YEARS AFTER ME. OH MY BROTHER HAS IT ALSO. LIKE SAID,EVEN THIN PEOPLE GET IT AND MY BROTHER IS THIN. WHEN I TOLD HIM NOT TO TAKE HIS MED 2 HOURS BEFORE EATING AND DON'T MIX WITH ANY MEDS OR VITAMINS IN HIS CASE HE LISTENED AND HIS MG'S WENT LOWER. IM THE ONE THAT TOLD MY OLD PC THAT MY THYROID IS JUMPING AROUND BECAUSE OF TAKING MEDS WITH IT. HE SAID MAYBE. FIRST TIME I TOLD MY SPECIALIST HE SAID NEVER MIX AND TAKE BEFORE EATING ONE OR TWO HOURS. HO HUM,I CAN'T MOVE MY NECK TODAY. CAROL IN FLA THAT IS HAVING HER POOL CLEANED THIS WEEKEND SO I CAN GO IN THE JACUIZI AND SWIM AND PLAY OF COURSE. :-) :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Also family history may play a role... MY GRANNYCHICK ,OUR PLAY NAME, SHE HAD HERS TAKEN OUT. I GOT IT ABOUT 13 YEARS AGO AND MY MOM GOT IT ABOUT 3 YEARS AFTER ME. OH MY BROTHER HAS IT ALSO. LIKE SAID,EVEN THIN PEOPLE GET IT AND MY BROTHER IS THIN. WHEN I TOLD HIM NOT TO TAKE HIS MED 2 HOURS BEFORE EATING AND DON'T MIX WITH ANY MEDS OR VITAMINS IN HIS CASE HE LISTENED AND HIS MG'S WENT LOWER. IM THE ONE THAT TOLD MY OLD PC THAT MY THYROID IS JUMPING AROUND BECAUSE OF TAKING MEDS WITH IT. HE SAID MAYBE. FIRST TIME I TOLD MY SPECIALIST HE SAID NEVER MIX AND TAKE BEFORE EATING ONE OR TWO HOURS. HO HUM,I CAN'T MOVE MY NECK TODAY. CAROL IN FLA THAT IS HAVING HER POOL CLEANED THIS WEEKEND SO I CAN GO IN THE JACUIZI AND SWIM AND PLAY OF COURSE. :-) :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Hashimoto's is a thyroid DISEASE that causes the CONDITION of hypothyroidism, at least eventually. There are other causes of hypo, but Hashi's is the most common one. Once the antibody damage is done to the thyroid gland, the gland has certain physical characteristics about it (even looking at the damaged gland) that make it structurally different than what it was when it was healthy. There is a site (and I have that link in My Favorites, but don't have it offhand for this purpose, but will get it) that shows pictures of the way a thyroid gland looks under all of these diseases of the thyroid, once the damage is done, if you can stomach it, lol. Riedel's is another one, and there are others, some of which involve antibodies and some that don't. Some authorities even say that they think that Hashi's and Grave's are even different spectrums of the same disease, but who knows. I know that Grave's has it's own set of antibodies, but are we ever tested for ALL of these antibodies at one time? I doubt it. Maybe different ones develop later on, when noone is thinking about testing them. Re: weight issues I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Hashimoto's is a thyroid DISEASE that causes the CONDITION of hypothyroidism, at least eventually. There are other causes of hypo, but Hashi's is the most common one. Once the antibody damage is done to the thyroid gland, the gland has certain physical characteristics about it (even looking at the damaged gland) that make it structurally different than what it was when it was healthy. There is a site (and I have that link in My Favorites, but don't have it offhand for this purpose, but will get it) that shows pictures of the way a thyroid gland looks under all of these diseases of the thyroid, once the damage is done, if you can stomach it, lol. Riedel's is another one, and there are others, some of which involve antibodies and some that don't. Some authorities even say that they think that Hashi's and Grave's are even different spectrums of the same disease, but who knows. I know that Grave's has it's own set of antibodies, but are we ever tested for ALL of these antibodies at one time? I doubt it. Maybe different ones develop later on, when noone is thinking about testing them. Re: weight issues I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Hashimoto's is a thyroid DISEASE that causes the CONDITION of hypothyroidism, at least eventually. There are other causes of hypo, but Hashi's is the most common one. Once the antibody damage is done to the thyroid gland, the gland has certain physical characteristics about it (even looking at the damaged gland) that make it structurally different than what it was when it was healthy. There is a site (and I have that link in My Favorites, but don't have it offhand for this purpose, but will get it) that shows pictures of the way a thyroid gland looks under all of these diseases of the thyroid, once the damage is done, if you can stomach it, lol. Riedel's is another one, and there are others, some of which involve antibodies and some that don't. Some authorities even say that they think that Hashi's and Grave's are even different spectrums of the same disease, but who knows. I know that Grave's has it's own set of antibodies, but are we ever tested for ALL of these antibodies at one time? I doubt it. Maybe different ones develop later on, when noone is thinking about testing them. Re: weight issues I too have Hashmoto Thyroiditis - and I have gained sooooo much weight. I am constantly tired and bloated all the time and my hair is falling out bad. I am on Levethroid 75 mg. I was wondering what is the difference between have hypothyroid vs. Hashimoto Thyroiditis??? I am not getting the answers I want. While your seems to have an insight into this - I am asking for an better understanding on what steps I should take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 when meds are optimized do some of the symptoms go away???they say my levels are normal ,but i still have every symptom, like constipation,having to sleep every day, terrible pms,puffy face,and depression...by the way everyone stay away from antidepression meds,I can send u all some good links on floride a POISON in most antidepression meds,the worst thing people withe hypo can take!did u know that paxil and prozac and so on were giving in other countries to hyperthyroid people to kill and damage the thyroid!!!,topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! Personals Skip the bars and set-ups and start using Yahoo! Personals for free Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 when meds are optimized do some of the symptoms go away???they say my levels are normal ,but i still have every symptom, like constipation,having to sleep every day, terrible pms,puffy face,and depression...by the way everyone stay away from antidepression meds,I can send u all some good links on floride a POISON in most antidepression meds,the worst thing people withe hypo can take!did u know that paxil and prozac and so on were giving in other countries to hyperthyroid people to kill and damage the thyroid!!!,topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! Personals Skip the bars and set-ups and start using Yahoo! Personals for free Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 when meds are optimized do some of the symptoms go away???they say my levels are normal ,but i still have every symptom, like constipation,having to sleep every day, terrible pms,puffy face,and depression...by the way everyone stay away from antidepression meds,I can send u all some good links on floride a POISON in most antidepression meds,the worst thing people withe hypo can take!did u know that paxil and prozac and so on were giving in other countries to hyperthyroid people to kill and damage the thyroid!!!,topper2@... wrote: The first step is to get your meds optimized... That does not mean settling for labs that show your levels 'in normal range' but to get them where they should be for YOUR body to be at optimal level. Most docs, sad to say, only test TSH and don't even both to test they thyroid hormones, TSH is a pituitary hormone. Others will actually test the thyroid hormones but consider any numbers showing to be 'within normal range' or at least close, to perfectly acceptable... Unfortunately there is more to it than that... So... before we dig into metabolic issues and weight management, lets see if we can determine how your body is responding to the med that you are on, if your dosage is correct, etc..... I know.. not the answer you wanted... but it's important to deal with what is causing the weight problem in the first place... low metabolism due to low thyroid hormone levels. Topper () On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:57:29 -0000 "makeover131313" writes: hello groupI am new member and hate to type,but was wondering anyone found anything that helps with weight loss or energy? TIRERD OF BEING TIREDI have hashimoto thyriodis. Yahoo! Personals Skip the bars and set-ups and start using Yahoo! Personals for free Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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