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I tend to agree with Doc Bledsoe, I'd rather have the bad press go to the

Ambulance Drivers and the better more planned by " us " press giving credit to

" Medics " etc.

As the man said " pick your battles " .

LNM

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In the overall scheme of things, would it not be best to leave the article

as is? These two ( and Mark [real names?]) seem closer

to ambulance drivers than paramedics. You pick your battles. This is better

left as " Ambulance Driver Stoners " rather than " Paramedic Stoners. " This

distances them from the rest of you which is a good thing.

BEB

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I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to everyone at

KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver " in this story.

http://www.kabb.com/

They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are better that we are). I

think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

Remember, professionalism in your letters................. be nice, but make a

point, I did.

Tater

Danny Denson wrote:

Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the medical community?

This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network in San .

A pot bust in County this week that sounds like a scene from an old

Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers apparently on break and shopping

at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San , wind up in handcuffs

after an off-duty trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo Ambulances are a

familiar sight in County. They transport elderly patients, trauma

patients and others to Connally Memorial Hospital in ville every day. So

when an off-duty state trooper shopping at the Wal-Mart store thought he picked

up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in uniform Monday evening, he recognized

right away who the guy worked for, Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact, the

ambulance was right outside in the parking lot. ny Deagen, County

Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a consent to search the ambulance,

discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a bag of marijuana inside the

ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie and Mark

, both of ville, had apparently just made a transport to the local

hospital fifteen minutes before, and were apparently still on duty. Deagen: " The

nurse there after the last run, she'd written down the ambulance driver's cell

number on her hand that way she could call him and have him on runs for the

night. So, it's our understanding that they were on duty for the rest of the

night. " Both and spent the rest of night in jail however, charged

with misdemeanor possession of marijuana. And though administrators at Connally

were unavailable for comment, hospital business with Apollo, a private ambulance

contractor, is now in jeopardy according to a hospital source. No one the

slightest bit amused at the alleged hijinks of two regulars at the hospital ER.

The news was no laughing matter to other EMTs in County. Schriber,

Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire Department: " People's lives depend on the paramedics,

especially for the proper drug calculations,

the dosages and all that they have to figure out. And they have to be clear

thinking at all times. Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or whatever, it

can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the arrest, only to deny police

reports that and are actually owners of the company. A hospital

source says Apollo averages about fifteen transports of patients each day to

Connally. Those runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance companies.

Danny Denson, EMT-P

Karnes County EMS

Karnes City, Texas

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In the overall scheme of things, would it not be best to leave the article

as is? These two ( and Mark [real names?]) seem closer

to ambulance drivers than paramedics. You pick your battles. This is better

left as " Ambulance Driver Stoners " rather than " Paramedic Stoners. " This

distances them from the rest of you which is a good thing.

BEB

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, Texas

Don't miss the Western States EMS Cruise!

http://proemseducators.com/index.html

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of E. Tate

Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Here is a good one - Write a PROTEST

I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to

everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver "

in this story. http://www.kabb.com/

They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are better that we are). I

think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

Remember, professionalism in your letters................. be nice, but

make a point, I did.

Tater

Danny Denson wrote:

Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the medical community?

This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network in San .

A pot bust in County this week that sounds like a scene from an old

Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers apparently on break and

shopping at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San , wind up

in handcuffs after an off-duty trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo

Ambulances are a familiar sight in County. They transport elderly

patients, trauma patients and others to Connally Memorial Hospital in

ville every day. So when an off-duty state trooper shopping at the

Wal-Mart store thought he picked up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in

uniform Monday evening, he recognized right away who the guy worked for,

Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact, the ambulance was right outside in the

parking lot. ny Deagen, County Sheriff's Office: " From there he

got a consent to search the ambulance, discovered a marijuana pipe with

marijuana and a bag of marijuana inside the ambulance. " Ambulance drivers

Jessie and Mark

, both of ville, had apparently just made a transport to the

local hospital fifteen minutes before, and were apparently still on duty.

Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd written down the

ambulance driver's cell number on her hand that way she could call him and

have him on runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that they were on

duty for the rest of the night. " Both and spent the rest of

night in jail however, charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana. And

though administrators at Connally were unavailable for comment, hospital

business with Apollo, a private ambulance contractor, is now in jeopardy

according to a hospital source. No one the slightest bit amused at the

alleged hijinks of two regulars at the hospital ER. The news was no laughing

matter to other EMTs in County. Schriber, Eagle Creek

Volunteer Fire Department: " People's lives depend on the paramedics,

especially for the proper drug calculations,

the dosages and all that they have to figure out. And they have to be clear

thinking at all times. Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or whatever, it

can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the arrest, only to deny police

reports that and are actually owners of the company. A

hospital source says Apollo averages about fifteen transports of patients

each day to Connally. Those runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance

companies.

Danny Denson, EMT-P

Karnes County EMS

Karnes City, Texas

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I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to

everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver "

in this story. http://www.kabb.com/

Why respond and write letters and complain it appears they might just be

Ambulance Drivers.

Jim<

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....and the bickering and whining continues. AMBULANCE

DRIVER AMBULANCE DRIVER AMBULANCE DRIVER There

I said it, now get over it. Face it, we will always

be called AMBULANCE DRIVER. Big deal. There are

bigger things to worry about concerning EMS than being

called an AMBULANCE DRIVER by the media. Flame away.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " E. Tate " wrote:

> I encourage each and every one of you to send a

> letter of protest to everyone at KABB for their

> unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver " in

> this story. http://www.kabb.com/

>

> They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are

> better that we are). I think I'll start calling

> news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

>

> Remember, professionalism in your

> letters................. be nice, but make a point,

> I did.

>

> Tater

>

>

> Danny Denson wrote:

> Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in

> the medical community?

>

> This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> in San .

>

> A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> like a scene from an old Cheech and Chong movie. Two

> ambulance drivers apparently on break and shopping

> at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San

> , wind up in handcuffs after an off-duty

> trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo

> Ambulances are a familiar sight in County.

> They transport elderly patients, trauma patients and

> others to Connally Memorial Hospital in ville

> every day. So when an off-duty state trooper

> shopping at the Wal-Mart store thought he picked up

> the pungent odor of pot on a guy in uniform Monday

> evening, he recognized right away who the guy worked

> for, Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact, the

> ambulance was right outside in the parking lot.

> ny Deagen, County Sheriff's Office: "

> From there he got a consent to search the ambulance,

> discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a bag

> of marijuana inside the ambulance. " Ambulance

> drivers Jessie and Mark

> , both of ville, had apparently just

> made a transport to the local hospital fifteen

> minutes before, and were apparently still on duty.

> Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> written down the ambulance driver's cell number on

> her hand that way she could call him and have him on

> runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that

> they were on duty for the rest of the night. " Both

> and spent the rest of night in jail

> however, charged with misdemeanor possession of

> marijuana. And though administrators at Connally

> were unavailable for comment, hospital business with

> Apollo, a private ambulance contractor, is now in

> jeopardy according to a hospital source. No one the

> slightest bit amused at the alleged hijinks of two

> regulars at the hospital ER. The news was no

> laughing matter to other EMTs in County.

> Schriber, Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire

> Department: " People's lives depend on the

> paramedics, especially for the proper drug

> calculations,

> the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> And they have to be clear thinking at all times.

> Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or whatever,

> it can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the

> arrest, only to deny police reports that and

> are actually owners of the company. A

> hospital source says Apollo averages about fifteen

> transports of patients each day to Connally. Those

> runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance

> companies.

>

>

>

>

> Danny Denson, EMT-P

> Karnes County EMS

> Karnes City, Texas

> kcmedic904@...

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Doc.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP "

wrote:

> In the overall scheme of things, would it not be

> best to leave the article

> as is? These two ( and Mark

> [real names?]) seem closer

> to ambulance drivers than paramedics. You pick your

> battles. This is better

> left as " Ambulance Driver Stoners " rather than

> " Paramedic Stoners. " This

> distances them from the rest of you which is a good

> thing.

>

> BEB

>

> E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, Texas

>

> Don't miss the Western States EMS Cruise!

> http://proemseducators.com/index.html

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of E. Tate

> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:37 AM

> To:

> Subject: Re: Here is a good one - Write

> a PROTEST

>

>

> I encourage each and every one of you to send a

> letter of protest to

> everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of the

> term " Ambulance Driver "

> in this story. http://www.kabb.com/

>

> They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are

> better that we are). I

> think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter

> Readers " .....

>

> Remember, professionalism in your

> letters................. be nice, but

> make a point, I did.

>

> Tater

>

>

> Danny Denson wrote:

> Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in

> the medical community?

>

> This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> in San .

>

> A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> like a scene from an old

> Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers

> apparently on break and

> shopping at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south

> of San , wind up

> in handcuffs after an off-duty trooper detects the

> odor of marijuana. Apollo

> Ambulances are a familiar sight in County.

> They transport elderly

> patients, trauma patients and others to Connally

> Memorial Hospital in

> ville every day. So when an off-duty state

> trooper shopping at the

> Wal-Mart store thought he picked up the pungent odor

> of pot on a guy in

> uniform Monday evening, he recognized right away who

> the guy worked for,

> Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact, the ambulance was

> right outside in the

> parking lot. ny Deagen, County Sheriff's

> Office: " From there he

> got a consent to search the ambulance, discovered a

> marijuana pipe with

> marijuana and a bag of marijuana inside the

> ambulance. " Ambulance drivers

> Jessie and Mark

> , both of ville, had apparently just

> made a transport to the

> local hospital fifteen minutes before, and were

> apparently still on duty.

> Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> written down the

> ambulance driver's cell number on her hand that way

> she could call him and

> have him on runs for the night. So, it's our

> understanding that they were on

> duty for the rest of the night. " Both and

> spent the rest of

> night in jail however, charged with misdemeanor

> possession of marijuana. And

> though administrators at Connally were unavailable

> for comment, hospital

> business with Apollo, a private ambulance

> contractor, is now in jeopardy

> according to a hospital source. No one the slightest

> bit amused at the

> alleged hijinks of two regulars at the hospital ER.

> The news was no laughing

> matter to other EMTs in County.

> Schriber, Eagle Creek

> Volunteer Fire Department: " People's lives depend on

> the paramedics,

> especially for the proper drug calculations,

> the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> And they have to be clear

> thinking at all times. Under the influence of drugs,

> alcohol or whatever, it

> can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the

> arrest, only to deny police

> reports that and are actually owners

> of the company. A

> hospital source says Apollo averages about fifteen

> transports of patients

> each day to Connally. Those runs are being

> re-assigned to other ambulance

> companies.

>

>

>

>

> Danny Denson, EMT-P

> Karnes County EMS

> Karnes City, Texas

> kcmedic904@...

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

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As much as the story got my goat, I'm not going to take this road. Why

would the EMS community want to claim these maggots? I watch this news show

quite a bit, and they do usually refer to EMS folks as paramedics or

emergency crews.

Now, if I hear a story where EMS folks do something where they are not

involved in a crime and they are referred to as " ambulance drivers " , you can

bet your bippy I'll fire off a polite, professional correction.

Crosby

EMT-B

Re: Here is a good one - Write a PROTEST

I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to

everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver "

in this story. http://www.kabb.com/

They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are better that we are). I

think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

Remember, professionalism in your letters................. be nice, but

make a point, I did.

Tater

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I never can stop laughing when I see e-mails like this...

We are not " ambulance drivers " ...really...well I have driven plenty of

them before...maybe we should start insisting that they call us

ambulance engineers, or ambulance operators...pre-hospital provider

vehicle operators...

Why don't firefighters insist on being called pyrographic engineers?

Do cops get upset when they are called cops?

I hear this on a regular basis, and when it is said in my presence, I

explain to people that we prefer to be called 'medics'...but I never

stage a letter writing campaign...I agree with Doc B and others...if

the term truly is deragatory, it couldn't have been used in a better

manner than to describe these two...notice a paragraph down when they

talked with Mr. Schriber they described him as an EMT.

Relax, calm down, and go see some Christmas lights...a great way to

forget about this non-important stuff and enjoy the season we find

ourselves in...

Dudley

Re: Here is a good one - Write a PROTEST

I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to

everyone at

KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver " in

this story.

http://www.kabb.com/

They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are better that we

are). I

think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

Remember, professionalism in your letters................. be nice,

but make a

point, I did.

Tater

Danny Denson wrote:

Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the medical

community?

This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network in San .

A pot bust in County this week that sounds like a scene from

an old

Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers apparently on break and

shopping

at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San , wind up in

handcuffs

after an off-duty trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo

Ambulances are a

familiar sight in County. They transport elderly patients,

trauma

patients and others to Connally Memorial Hospital in ville every

day. So

when an off-duty state trooper shopping at the Wal-Mart store thought

he picked

up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in uniform Monday evening, he

recognized

right away who the guy worked for, Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact,

the

ambulance was right outside in the parking lot. ny Deagen,

County

Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a consent to search the

ambulance,

discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a bag of marijuana

inside the

ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie and Mark

, both of ville, had apparently just made a transport to

the local

hospital fifteen minutes before, and were apparently still on duty.

Deagen: " The

nurse there after the last run, she'd written down the ambulance

driver's cell

number on her hand that way she could call him and have him on runs for

the

night. So, it's our understanding that they were on duty for the rest

of the

night. " Both and spent the rest of night in jail

however, charged

with misdemeanor possession of marijuana. And though administrators at

Connally

were unavailable for comment, hospital business with Apollo, a private

ambulance

contractor, is now in jeopardy according to a hospital source. No one

the

slightest bit amused at the alleged hijinks of two regulars at the

hospital ER.

The news was no laughing matter to other EMTs in County.

Schriber,

Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire Department: " People's lives depend on the

paramedics,

especially for the proper drug calculations,

the dosages and all that they have to figure out. And they have to be

clear

thinking at all times. Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or

whatever, it

can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the arrest, only to deny

police

reports that and are actually owners of the company. A

hospital

source says Apollo averages about fifteen transports of patients each

day to

Connally. Those runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance companies.

Danny Denson, EMT-P

Karnes County EMS

Karnes City, Texas

kcmedic904@...

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I never can stop laughing when I see e-mails like this...

We are not " ambulance drivers " ...really...well I have driven plenty of

them before...maybe we should start insisting that they call us

ambulance engineers, or ambulance operators...pre-hospital provider

vehicle operators...

Why don't firefighters insist on being called pyrographic engineers?

Do cops get upset when they are called cops?

I hear this on a regular basis, and when it is said in my presence, I

explain to people that we prefer to be called 'medics'...but I never

stage a letter writing campaign...I agree with Doc B and others...if

the term truly is deragatory, it couldn't have been used in a better

manner than to describe these two...notice a paragraph down when they

talked with Mr. Schriber they described him as an EMT.

Relax, calm down, and go see some Christmas lights...a great way to

forget about this non-important stuff and enjoy the season we find

ourselves in...

Dudley

Re: Here is a good one - Write a PROTEST

I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to

everyone at

KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver " in

this story.

http://www.kabb.com/

They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are better that we

are). I

think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

Remember, professionalism in your letters................. be nice,

but make a

point, I did.

Tater

Danny Denson wrote:

Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the medical

community?

This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network in San .

A pot bust in County this week that sounds like a scene from

an old

Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers apparently on break and

shopping

at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San , wind up in

handcuffs

after an off-duty trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo

Ambulances are a

familiar sight in County. They transport elderly patients,

trauma

patients and others to Connally Memorial Hospital in ville every

day. So

when an off-duty state trooper shopping at the Wal-Mart store thought

he picked

up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in uniform Monday evening, he

recognized

right away who the guy worked for, Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact,

the

ambulance was right outside in the parking lot. ny Deagen,

County

Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a consent to search the

ambulance,

discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a bag of marijuana

inside the

ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie and Mark

, both of ville, had apparently just made a transport to

the local

hospital fifteen minutes before, and were apparently still on duty.

Deagen: " The

nurse there after the last run, she'd written down the ambulance

driver's cell

number on her hand that way she could call him and have him on runs for

the

night. So, it's our understanding that they were on duty for the rest

of the

night. " Both and spent the rest of night in jail

however, charged

with misdemeanor possession of marijuana. And though administrators at

Connally

were unavailable for comment, hospital business with Apollo, a private

ambulance

contractor, is now in jeopardy according to a hospital source. No one

the

slightest bit amused at the alleged hijinks of two regulars at the

hospital ER.

The news was no laughing matter to other EMTs in County.

Schriber,

Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire Department: " People's lives depend on the

paramedics,

especially for the proper drug calculations,

the dosages and all that they have to figure out. And they have to be

clear

thinking at all times. Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or

whatever, it

can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the arrest, only to deny

police

reports that and are actually owners of the company. A

hospital

source says Apollo averages about fifteen transports of patients each

day to

Connally. Those runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance companies.

Danny Denson, EMT-P

Karnes County EMS

Karnes City, Texas

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What we need to do is find out what needs to be done

so that a bill can be started requiring TDSHS to start

mandatory drug screens or require providers to do them

and require them to report the results to TDSHS. This

problem is an epidemic and I can think of more than a

dozen medics or was that ambulance drivers who use

cocaine or marijuana on a regular basis. These have

been tested before and all that happens is they get

fired from Company A and go to Company B. They

usually do not report the problem because, " they have

a family. " Okay, but they should have thought about

that before they started using drugs. Some claim to

use it because it keeps them on their feet when

working OT. I know one guy who's been to rehab twice

and was reemployed by the same company who fired him

after he tested positive. And he is still using. So

what do you think?

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- THEDUDMAN@... wrote:

> Hold the phone here Danny...we have quiet a leap

> from two folks smoking

> pot on-duty and getting caught to SHUT 'EM DOWN!!!!

> Drive the Apollo

> Ambulance Company out of TOWN!!!!!

>

> So, MEDSTAR should be shut down because two

> employees sexually assault

> a minor in their vehicle? The EMS agency in

> California who employed

> two paramedics who returned to the patients house

> and stole stuff needs

> to be shut down?

>

> Your agency, if you (God forbid) have an at fault

> vehicle accident

> causing injury or death needs to be shut down?

>

> Although this is a tremendous black eye, and

> economic activities and

> competition very well may drive them out of

> business..shutting a

> company down for the actions of two employees seems

> a bit out of

> control...

>

> Should all those who worked for Goldstar lose their

> certs because they

> had some supposed Medicare/caid irregularities?

>

> I would almost bet that if it hasn't been done by

> now, before Monday or

> Tuesday their certs will be emergency suspended by

> DSHS pending an

> investigation. That is how the enforcement piece of

> our business works

> and I can tell you, I have seen it work very well.

>

> Lets put the horses back in the barn and tie the

> lynchin' ropes back up

> on their hooks...and let the process work (both

> criminal justice and

> state regulatory).

>

> Dudley

>

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> a PROTEST

>

> You are correct Andy. Call them what you

> will......what I call them

> will not be

> posted on this list server. Until we get a

> commission or regulatory

> agency that

> actually has the funding and manpower to deal with

> problems like this,

> we are

> stuck with these folks. Sad part is that unless the

> DSHS comes in and

> shuts them

> down, it will be business as usual on Monday.

>

> rachfoote@... wrote:

> You know, I am getting up in age, but I do think the

> original post was

> more

> in jest than for a real set of comments from the

> flamers. I could be

> wrong

> but there again, I could be right. God bless the

> boy's who make the

> noise on

> EMS Avenue.

>

> Andy

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:39:10 A.M. Central

> Standard Time,

> texaslp@... writes:

>

> I encourage each and every one of you to send a

> letter of protest to

> everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of

> the term " Ambulance

> Driver " in

> this

> story. http://www.kabb.com/

>

> They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are

> better that we are).

> I

> think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter

> Readers " .....

>

> Remember, professionalism in your

> letters................. be nice,

> but make

> a point, I did.

>

> Tater

>

>

> Danny Denson wrote:

> Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the

> medical community?

>

> This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> in San .

>

> A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> like a scene from an

> old

> Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers

> apparently on break and

> shopping

> at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San

> , wind up in

> handcuffs after an off-duty trooper detects the

> odor of marijuana.

> Apollo

> Ambulances

> are a familiar sight in County. They

> transport elderly

> patients,

> trauma patients and others to Connally Memorial

> Hospital in

> ville every

> day. So when an off-duty state trooper shopping at

> the Wal-Mart store

> thought

> he

> picked up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in

> uniform Monday evening,

> he

> recognized right away who the guy worked for,

> Apollo Ambulance

> Company. In

> fact,

> the ambulance was right outside in the parking lot.

> ny Deagen,

>

> County Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a

> consent to search the

> ambulance,

>

> discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a

> bag of marijuana

> inside the

> ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie

> and Mark

> , both of ville, had apparently just

> made a transport to

> the

> local hospital fifteen minutes before, and were

> apparently still on

> duty.

> Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> written down the

> ambulance

> driver's cell number on her hand that way she could

> call him and have

> him on

> runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that

> they were on duty

> for the

> rest of the night. " Both and spent

> the rest of night in

> jail

> however, charged with misdemeanor possession of

> marijuana. And though

> administrators at Connally were unavailable for

> comment, hospital

> business with

> Apollo,

> a private ambulance contractor, is now in jeopardy

> according to a

> hospital

> source. No one the slightest bit amused at the

> alleged hijinks of two

> regulars

> at the hospital ER. The news was no laughing matter

> to other EMTs in

>

> County. Schriber, Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire

> Department:

> " People's

> lives depend on the paramedics, especially for the

> proper drug

> calculations,

> the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> And they have to be

> clear

> thinking at all times. Under the influence of

> drugs, alcohol or

>

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What we need to do is find out what needs to be done

so that a bill can be started requiring TDSHS to start

mandatory drug screens or require providers to do them

and require them to report the results to TDSHS. This

problem is an epidemic and I can think of more than a

dozen medics or was that ambulance drivers who use

cocaine or marijuana on a regular basis. These have

been tested before and all that happens is they get

fired from Company A and go to Company B. They

usually do not report the problem because, " they have

a family. " Okay, but they should have thought about

that before they started using drugs. Some claim to

use it because it keeps them on their feet when

working OT. I know one guy who's been to rehab twice

and was reemployed by the same company who fired him

after he tested positive. And he is still using. So

what do you think?

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- THEDUDMAN@... wrote:

> Hold the phone here Danny...we have quiet a leap

> from two folks smoking

> pot on-duty and getting caught to SHUT 'EM DOWN!!!!

> Drive the Apollo

> Ambulance Company out of TOWN!!!!!

>

> So, MEDSTAR should be shut down because two

> employees sexually assault

> a minor in their vehicle? The EMS agency in

> California who employed

> two paramedics who returned to the patients house

> and stole stuff needs

> to be shut down?

>

> Your agency, if you (God forbid) have an at fault

> vehicle accident

> causing injury or death needs to be shut down?

>

> Although this is a tremendous black eye, and

> economic activities and

> competition very well may drive them out of

> business..shutting a

> company down for the actions of two employees seems

> a bit out of

> control...

>

> Should all those who worked for Goldstar lose their

> certs because they

> had some supposed Medicare/caid irregularities?

>

> I would almost bet that if it hasn't been done by

> now, before Monday or

> Tuesday their certs will be emergency suspended by

> DSHS pending an

> investigation. That is how the enforcement piece of

> our business works

> and I can tell you, I have seen it work very well.

>

> Lets put the horses back in the barn and tie the

> lynchin' ropes back up

> on their hooks...and let the process work (both

> criminal justice and

> state regulatory).

>

> Dudley

>

> Re: Here is a good one - Write

> a PROTEST

>

> You are correct Andy. Call them what you

> will......what I call them

> will not be

> posted on this list server. Until we get a

> commission or regulatory

> agency that

> actually has the funding and manpower to deal with

> problems like this,

> we are

> stuck with these folks. Sad part is that unless the

> DSHS comes in and

> shuts them

> down, it will be business as usual on Monday.

>

> rachfoote@... wrote:

> You know, I am getting up in age, but I do think the

> original post was

> more

> in jest than for a real set of comments from the

> flamers. I could be

> wrong

> but there again, I could be right. God bless the

> boy's who make the

> noise on

> EMS Avenue.

>

> Andy

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:39:10 A.M. Central

> Standard Time,

> texaslp@... writes:

>

> I encourage each and every one of you to send a

> letter of protest to

> everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of

> the term " Ambulance

> Driver " in

> this

> story. http://www.kabb.com/

>

> They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are

> better that we are).

> I

> think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter

> Readers " .....

>

> Remember, professionalism in your

> letters................. be nice,

> but make

> a point, I did.

>

> Tater

>

>

> Danny Denson wrote:

> Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the

> medical community?

>

> This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> in San .

>

> A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> like a scene from an

> old

> Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers

> apparently on break and

> shopping

> at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San

> , wind up in

> handcuffs after an off-duty trooper detects the

> odor of marijuana.

> Apollo

> Ambulances

> are a familiar sight in County. They

> transport elderly

> patients,

> trauma patients and others to Connally Memorial

> Hospital in

> ville every

> day. So when an off-duty state trooper shopping at

> the Wal-Mart store

> thought

> he

> picked up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in

> uniform Monday evening,

> he

> recognized right away who the guy worked for,

> Apollo Ambulance

> Company. In

> fact,

> the ambulance was right outside in the parking lot.

> ny Deagen,

>

> County Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a

> consent to search the

> ambulance,

>

> discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a

> bag of marijuana

> inside the

> ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie

> and Mark

> , both of ville, had apparently just

> made a transport to

> the

> local hospital fifteen minutes before, and were

> apparently still on

> duty.

> Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> written down the

> ambulance

> driver's cell number on her hand that way she could

> call him and have

> him on

> runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that

> they were on duty

> for the

> rest of the night. " Both and spent

> the rest of night in

> jail

> however, charged with misdemeanor possession of

> marijuana. And though

> administrators at Connally were unavailable for

> comment, hospital

> business with

> Apollo,

> a private ambulance contractor, is now in jeopardy

> according to a

> hospital

> source. No one the slightest bit amused at the

> alleged hijinks of two

> regulars

> at the hospital ER. The news was no laughing matter

> to other EMTs in

>

> County. Schriber, Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire

> Department:

> " People's

> lives depend on the paramedics, especially for the

> proper drug

> calculations,

> the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> And they have to be

> clear

> thinking at all times. Under the influence of

> drugs, alcohol or

>

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As soon as Doctors, Nurses, Firefighters, and Police are affected by

the same bill then I am all for it...BTW, I believe the agency that

doesn't report this to DSHS when they fire an employee for a positive

drug screen should be reported...I think it is a reporting requirement.

Dudley

Re: Here is a good one - Write

> a PROTEST

>

> You are correct Andy. Call them what you

> will......what I call them

> will not be

> posted on this list server. Until we get a

> commission or regulatory

> agency that

> actually has the funding and manpower to deal with

> problems like this,

> we are

> stuck with these folks. Sad part is that unless the

> DSHS comes in and

> shuts them

> down, it will be business as usual on Monday.

>

> rachfoote@... wrote:

> You know, I am getting up in age, but I do think the

> original post was

> more

> in jest than for a real set of comments from the

> flamers. I could be

> wrong

> but there again, I could be right. God bless the

> boy's who make the

> noise on

> EMS Avenue.

>

> Andy

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:39:10 A.M. Central

> Standard Time,

> texaslp@... writes:

>

> I encourage each and every one of you to send a

> letter of protest to

> everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of

> the term " Ambulance

> Driver " in

> this

> story. http://www.kabb.com/

>

> They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are

> better that we are).

> I

> think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter

> Readers " .....

>

> Remember, professionalism in your

> letters................. be nice,

> but make

> a point, I did.

>

> Tater

>

>

> Danny Denson wrote:

> Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the

> medical community?

>

> This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> in San .

>

> A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> like a scene from an

> old

> Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers

> apparently on break and

> shopping

> at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San

> , wind up in

> handcuffs after an off-duty trooper detects the

> odor of marijuana.

> Apollo

> Ambulances

> are a familiar sight in County. They

> transport elderly

> patients,

> trauma patients and others to Connally Memorial

> Hospital in

> ville every

> day. So when an off-duty state trooper shopping at

> the Wal-Mart store

> thought

> he

> picked up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in

> uniform Monday evening,

> he

> recognized right away who the guy worked for,

> Apollo Ambulance

> Company. In

> fact,

> the ambulance was right outside in the parking lot.

> ny Deagen,

>

> County Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a

> consent to search the

> ambulance,

>

> discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a

> bag of marijuana

> inside the

> ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie

> and Mark

> , both of ville, had apparently just

> made a transport to

> the

> local hospital fifteen minutes before, and were

> apparently still on

> duty.

> Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> written down the

> ambulance

> driver's cell number on her hand that way she could

> call him and have

> him on

> runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that

> they were on duty

> for the

> rest of the night. " Both and spent

> the rest of night in

> jail

> however, charged with misdemeanor possession of

> marijuana. And though

> administrators at Connally were unavailable for

> comment, hospital

> business with

> Apollo,

> a private ambulance contractor, is now in jeopardy

> according to a

> hospital

> source. No one the slightest bit amused at the

> alleged hijinks of two

> regulars

> at the hospital ER. The news was no laughing matter

> to other EMTs in

>

> County. Schriber, Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire

> Department:

> " People's

> lives depend on the paramedics, especially for the

> proper drug

> calculations,

> the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> And they have to be

> clear

> thinking at all times. Under the influence of

> drugs, alcohol or

>

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THEDUDMAN@... wrote: Relax, calm down, and go see some Christmas

lights...a great way to forget about this non-important stuff and enjoy the

season we find ourselves in...

Best advice of the day, Dudley!

Larry in Houston

" The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but

because he loves what is behind him. " - GK Chesterton

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Admission!

I always wanted to drive an ambulance when I was a little girl. Thanks

to my mother who told me stories about how womnen drove ambulances

when men were away at WWII.

We might as well start taking pride in the word, just like some people

call each other 'n...' as a term of endearment.

Shahla

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> > Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in

> > the medical community?

> >

> > This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> > in San .

> >

> > A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> > like a scene from an old Cheech and Chong movie. Two

> > ambulance drivers apparently on break and shopping

> > at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San

> > , wind up in handcuffs after an off-duty

> > trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo

> > Ambulances are a familiar sight in County.

> > They transport elderly patients, trauma patients and

> > others to Connally Memorial Hospital in ville

> > every day. So when an off-duty state trooper

> > shopping at the Wal-Mart store thought he picked up

> > the pungent odor of pot on a guy in uniform Monday

> > evening, he recognized right away who the guy worked

> > for, Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact, the

> > ambulance was right outside in the parking lot.

> > ny Deagen, County Sheriff's Office: "

> > From there he got a consent to search the ambulance,

> > discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a bag

> > of marijuana inside the ambulance. " Ambulance

> > drivers Jessie and Mark

> > , both of ville, had apparently just

> > made a transport to the local hospital fifteen

> > minutes before, and were apparently still on duty.

> > Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> > written down the ambulance driver's cell number on

> > her hand that way she could call him and have him on

> > runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that

> > they were on duty for the rest of the night. " Both

> > and spent the rest of night in jail

> > however, charged with misdemeanor possession of

> > marijuana. And though administrators at Connally

> > were unavailable for comment, hospital business with

> > Apollo, a private ambulance contractor, is now in

> > jeopardy according to a hospital source. No one the

> > slightest bit amused at the alleged hijinks of two

> > regulars at the hospital ER. The news was no

> > laughing matter to other EMTs in County.

> > Schriber, Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire

> > Department: " People's lives depend on the

> > paramedics, especially for the proper drug

> > calculations,

> > the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> > And they have to be clear thinking at all times.

> > Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or whatever,

> > it can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the

> > arrest, only to deny police reports that and

> > are actually owners of the company. A

> > hospital source says Apollo averages about fifteen

> > transports of patients each day to Connally. Those

> > runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance

> > companies.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Danny Denson, EMT-P

> > Karnes County EMS

> > Karnes City, Texas

> > kcmedic904@s...

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I think that you are at as much fault if you know it and are letting it

happen without blowing the whistle on the guy.

In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:31:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,

scapuchino@... writes:

What we need to do is find out what needs to be done

so that a bill can be started requiring TDSHS to start

mandatory drug screens or require providers to do them

and require them to report the results to TDSHS. This

problem is an epidemic and I can think of more than a

dozen medics or was that ambulance drivers who use

cocaine or marijuana on a regular basis. These have

been tested before and all that happens is they get

fired from Company A and go to Company B. They

usually do not report the problem because, " they have

a family. " Okay, but they should have thought about

that before they started using drugs. Some claim to

use it because it keeps them on their feet when

working OT. I know one guy who's been to rehab twice

and was reemployed by the same company who fired him

after he tested positive. And he is still using. So

what do you think?

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- THEDUDMAN@... wrote:

> Hold the phone here Danny...we have quiet a leap

> from two folks smoking

> pot on-duty and getting caught to SHUT 'EM DOWN!!!!

> Drive the Apollo

> Ambulance Company out of TOWN!!!!!

>

> So, MEDSTAR should be shut down because two

> employees sexually assault

> a minor in their vehicle? The EMS agency in

> California who employed

> two paramedics who returned to the patients house

> and stole stuff needs

> to be shut down?

>

> Your agency, if you (God forbid) have an at fault

> vehicle accident

> causing injury or death needs to be shut down?

>

> Although this is a tremendous black eye, and

> economic activities and

> competition very well may drive them out of

> business..shutting a

> company down for the actions of two employees seems

> a bit out of

> control...

>

> Should all those who worked for Goldstar lose their

> certs because they

> had some supposed Medicare/caid irregularities?

>

> I would almost bet that if it hasn't been done by

> now, before Monday or

> Tuesday their certs will be emergency suspended by

> DSHS pending an

> investigation. That is how the enforcement piece of

> our business works

> and I can tell you, I have seen it work very well.

>

> Lets put the horses back in the barn and tie the

> lynchin' ropes back up

> on their hooks...and let the process work (both

> criminal justice and

> state regulatory).

>

> Dudley

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> To:

> Sent: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:33:19 -0800 (PST)

> Subject: Re: Here is a good one - Write

> a PROTEST

>

> You are correct Andy. Call them what you

> will......what I call them

> will not be

> posted on this list server. Until we get a

> commission or regulatory

> agency that

> actually has the funding and manpower to deal with

> problems like this,

> we are

> stuck with these folks. Sad part is that unless the

> DSHS comes in and

> shuts them

> down, it will be business as usual on Monday.

>

> rachfoote@... wrote:

> You know, I am getting up in age, but I do think the

> original post was

> more

> in jest than for a real set of comments from the

> flamers. I could be

> wrong

> but there again, I could be right. God bless the

> boy's who make the

> noise on

> EMS Avenue.

>

> Andy

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:39:10 A.M. Central

> Standard Time,

> texaslp@... writes:

>

> I encourage each and every one of you to send a

> letter of protest to

> everyone at KABB for their unprofessional use of

> the term " Ambulance

> Driver " in

> this

> story. http://www.kabb.com/

>

> They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are

> better that we are).

> I

> think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter

> Readers " .....

>

> Remember, professionalism in your

> letters................. be nice,

> but make

> a point, I did.

>

> Tater

>

>

> Danny Denson wrote:

> Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the

> medical community?

>

> This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network

> in San .

>

> A pot bust in County this week that sounds

> like a scene from an

> old

> Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers

> apparently on break and

> shopping

> at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San

> , wind up in

> handcuffs after an off-duty trooper detects the

> odor of marijuana.

> Apollo

> Ambulances

> are a familiar sight in County. They

> transport elderly

> patients,

> trauma patients and others to Connally Memorial

> Hospital in

> ville every

> day. So when an off-duty state trooper shopping at

> the Wal-Mart store

> thought

> he

> picked up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in

> uniform Monday evening,

> he

> recognized right away who the guy worked for,

> Apollo Ambulance

> Company. In

> fact,

> the ambulance was right outside in the parking lot.

> ny Deagen,

>

> County Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a

> consent to search the

> ambulance,

>

> discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a

> bag of marijuana

> inside the

> ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie

> and Mark

> , both of ville, had apparently just

> made a transport to

> the

> local hospital fifteen minutes before, and were

> apparently still on

> duty.

> Deagen: " The nurse there after the last run, she'd

> written down the

> ambulance

> driver's cell number on her hand that way she could

> call him and have

> him on

> runs for the night. So, it's our understanding that

> they were on duty

> for the

> rest of the night. " Both and spent

> the rest of night in

> jail

> however, charged with misdemeanor possession of

> marijuana. And though

> administrators at Connally were unavailable for

> comment, hospital

> business with

> Apollo,

> a private ambulance contractor, is now in jeopardy

> according to a

> hospital

> source. No one the slightest bit amused at the

> alleged hijinks of two

> regulars

> at the hospital ER. The news was no laughing matter

> to other EMTs in

>

> County. Schriber, Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire

> Department:

> " People's

> lives depend on the paramedics, especially for the

> proper drug

> calculations,

> the dosages and all that they have to figure out.

> And they have to be

> clear

> thinking at all times. Under the influence of

> drugs, alcohol or

>

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Well.... I'm new to the group, and fairly new to the field as well so take

this for what you deem it to be worth...

I'm not exactly sure I wish for myself or any of my " esteemed colleagues "

(peers or co-workers as you like) would desire any errant news media

reporter to associate ANY of the likes of us in the same professional

reference / vocational designation as THOSE two (alleged) misguided misfits.

I say alleged misguided misfits because supposedly one is innocent in point

of fact until adjudged and so proven guilty in a court of law....... But

that's another email altogether.

Here's my point. The " DUDMAN " is dead center on target about email campaigns

and public education as to the proper title one should use in reference to

our chosen profession. While I agree with the rest of us and Mr. Steve Berry

and whole heartedly feel the pent up rage and overwhelming need to

vehemently stamp and shout " I AM NOT A @*# & ^$^*^^ AMBULANCE DRIVER!!!!; one

must choose one's battles. Having surveyed the field of battle before us, I

personally feel this to be a poor one on which to mount either a defense or

an attack.

All of us can " re-educate " folks till were blue in the face about proper

titles. Two key points come to mind however....

1) Whining or exclaiming or filling someone's junk email box smacks of a

childish insistence for everyone else to play along and pacify us by

acknowledging what we want to be when we grow up.

2) You can teach a pig to sing, but in the end all you've done is waste your

time and annoy the pig... And if by some miracle you should SUCCEED; well

who really wants to listen to a pig singing?

As we weed out (no pun intended) those of us among us who need not be one of

us and as we " step it up " a few notches education wise and performance wise

and develop better methods to prevent substandard characters from entering

our ranks in the first place... Then we will ALL truly become the

professionals we seek to be called, and thus will be. Many of us have been

doing this for quite sometime, but we should never seek to sit on our

laurels. To rest and become satisfied with our achievements is to step

backward.

ONWARD! UPWARD! FORWARD!

-- Re: Here is a good one - Write a PROTEST

I encourage each and every one of you to send a letter of protest to

everyone at

KABB for their unprofessional use of the term " Ambulance Driver " in

this story.

http://www.kabb.com/

They used the term Nurse (I guess they really are better that we

are). I

think I'll start calling news anchors " Teleprompter Readers " .....

Remember, professionalism in your letters................. be nice,

but make a

point, I did.

Tater

Danny Denson wrote:

Do you ever wonder why we are not respected in the medical

community?

This article is from www.kabb.com, the Fox network in San .

A pot bust in County this week that sounds like a scene from

an old

Cheech and Chong movie. Two ambulance drivers apparently on break and

shopping

at a Wal-Mart store in ville, south of San , wind up in

handcuffs

after an off-duty trooper detects the odor of marijuana. Apollo

Ambulances are a

familiar sight in County. They transport elderly patients,

trauma

patients and others to Connally Memorial Hospital in ville every

day. So

when an off-duty state trooper shopping at the Wal-Mart store thought

he picked

up the pungent odor of pot on a guy in uniform Monday evening, he

recognized

right away who the guy worked for, Apollo Ambulance Company. In fact,

the

ambulance was right outside in the parking lot. ny Deagen,

County

Sheriff's Office: " From there he got a consent to search the

ambulance,

discovered a marijuana pipe with marijuana and a bag of marijuana

inside the

ambulance. " Ambulance drivers Jessie and Mark

, both of ville, had apparently just made a transport to

the local

hospital fifteen minutes before, and were apparently still on duty.

Deagen: " The

nurse there after the last run, she'd written down the ambulance

driver's cell

number on her hand that way she could call him and have him on runs for

the

night. So, it's our understanding that they were on duty for the rest

of the

night. " Both and spent the rest of night in jail

however, charged

with misdemeanor possession of marijuana. And though administrators at

Connally

were unavailable for comment, hospital business with Apollo, a private

ambulance

contractor, is now in jeopardy according to a hospital source. No one

the

slightest bit amused at the alleged hijinks of two regulars at the

hospital ER.

The news was no laughing matter to other EMTs in County.

Schriber,

Eagle Creek Volunteer Fire Department: " People's lives depend on the

paramedics,

especially for the proper drug calculations,

the dosages and all that they have to figure out. And they have to be

clear

thinking at all times. Under the influence of drugs, alcohol or

whatever, it

can't happen. " Apollo refused to comment on the arrest, only to deny

police

reports that and are actually owners of the company. A

hospital

source says Apollo averages about fifteen transports of patients each

day to

Connally. Those runs are being re-assigned to other ambulance companies.

Danny Denson, EMT-P

Karnes County EMS

Karnes City, Texas

kcmedic904@...

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