Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Deborah, Thyroid medication should never be used for weight loss. That said, I will add I was on a T4/T3 dose for nearly 30 years.....and last I looked it made no difference in controlling my weight. Mostly I put weight on very easily. I could never lose a pound without a serious effort in food control. You will have a hard time finding a doctor who will give you T3 in general, let alone to lose weight. The year after diagnosis can be very difficult for weight loss. During the last 6 months you lost your thyroid and went hypo. That is one heck of an insult to the body, give it time to readjust to the thyroid meds and then find a good sensible diet. Gail dx: 1968, TT, pap. & foll. well differentiated w/hurthle cell, RAI, rad.neck dissection,lung surgery, hashimoto, tg antibody 575, iodine resistant,existing thyca nodules in lungs. Last surgery 1972 > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > period. > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Deborah, Thyroid medication should never be used for weight loss. That said, I will add I was on a T4/T3 dose for nearly 30 years.....and last I looked it made no difference in controlling my weight. Mostly I put weight on very easily. I could never lose a pound without a serious effort in food control. You will have a hard time finding a doctor who will give you T3 in general, let alone to lose weight. The year after diagnosis can be very difficult for weight loss. During the last 6 months you lost your thyroid and went hypo. That is one heck of an insult to the body, give it time to readjust to the thyroid meds and then find a good sensible diet. Gail dx: 1968, TT, pap. & foll. well differentiated w/hurthle cell, RAI, rad.neck dissection,lung surgery, hashimoto, tg antibody 575, iodine resistant,existing thyca nodules in lungs. Last surgery 1972 > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > period. > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Deborah, Thyroid medication should never be used for weight loss. That said, I will add I was on a T4/T3 dose for nearly 30 years.....and last I looked it made no difference in controlling my weight. Mostly I put weight on very easily. I could never lose a pound without a serious effort in food control. You will have a hard time finding a doctor who will give you T3 in general, let alone to lose weight. The year after diagnosis can be very difficult for weight loss. During the last 6 months you lost your thyroid and went hypo. That is one heck of an insult to the body, give it time to readjust to the thyroid meds and then find a good sensible diet. Gail dx: 1968, TT, pap. & foll. well differentiated w/hurthle cell, RAI, rad.neck dissection,lung surgery, hashimoto, tg antibody 575, iodine resistant,existing thyca nodules in lungs. Last surgery 1972 > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > period. > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 I absolutely concur with all Gail said. Also, I don't really think you should " expect " to gain 10-15 lbs while hypo. Some folks do gain, others don't. And it can vary from one hypo period to another. It certainly can happen, but it's not an automatic " given " of hypodom. Follow a low iodine diet for the last few weeks before your scan, and eat the healthy things on the diet. In addition to it being a good thing for your RAI uptake, many of us have found it will help offset weight gain, at least to some degree. Also, try to keep some level of exercise going during hypo (not always easy, I know!). Exercise is a REALLY important component of weight loss, too. I know how frustrating this is and how hard it is to lose weight - but it CAN be done. Hang in there! Cheers, Alisa Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl 2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA 3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!! 4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos 5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets 12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!! Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts: Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472 My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872 My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873 LID thoughts, tips, ideas - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430 > > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > > period. > > > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 I absolutely concur with all Gail said. Also, I don't really think you should " expect " to gain 10-15 lbs while hypo. Some folks do gain, others don't. And it can vary from one hypo period to another. It certainly can happen, but it's not an automatic " given " of hypodom. Follow a low iodine diet for the last few weeks before your scan, and eat the healthy things on the diet. In addition to it being a good thing for your RAI uptake, many of us have found it will help offset weight gain, at least to some degree. Also, try to keep some level of exercise going during hypo (not always easy, I know!). Exercise is a REALLY important component of weight loss, too. I know how frustrating this is and how hard it is to lose weight - but it CAN be done. Hang in there! Cheers, Alisa Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl 2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA 3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!! 4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos 5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets 12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!! Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts: Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472 My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872 My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873 LID thoughts, tips, ideas - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430 > > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > > period. > > > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 I absolutely concur with all Gail said. Also, I don't really think you should " expect " to gain 10-15 lbs while hypo. Some folks do gain, others don't. And it can vary from one hypo period to another. It certainly can happen, but it's not an automatic " given " of hypodom. Follow a low iodine diet for the last few weeks before your scan, and eat the healthy things on the diet. In addition to it being a good thing for your RAI uptake, many of us have found it will help offset weight gain, at least to some degree. Also, try to keep some level of exercise going during hypo (not always easy, I know!). Exercise is a REALLY important component of weight loss, too. I know how frustrating this is and how hard it is to lose weight - but it CAN be done. Hang in there! Cheers, Alisa Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl 2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA 3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!! 4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos 5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets 12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!! Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts: Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472 My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872 My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873 LID thoughts, tips, ideas - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430 > > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > > period. > > > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 When I first started learning about my cancer, I was talking to a friend who used to work in California around models and movie people. He said, " Oh yeah - T3. That's what the girls would take to keep their weight down. " I also know of a friend who's sister had a TT and is now on Synthroid, but she's concerned about her because she's popping T3 to keep her weight down. I believe the excessive use of T3 can prompt the onset of early osteoporosis as well as heart disease, and is definitely not a good idea for long term use. mb Use of T3 for Weight Loss? I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this period. A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He said T3 helps with quick weight loss. Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 When I first started learning about my cancer, I was talking to a friend who used to work in California around models and movie people. He said, " Oh yeah - T3. That's what the girls would take to keep their weight down. " I also know of a friend who's sister had a TT and is now on Synthroid, but she's concerned about her because she's popping T3 to keep her weight down. I believe the excessive use of T3 can prompt the onset of early osteoporosis as well as heart disease, and is definitely not a good idea for long term use. mb Use of T3 for Weight Loss? I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this period. A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He said T3 helps with quick weight loss. Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 When I first started learning about my cancer, I was talking to a friend who used to work in California around models and movie people. He said, " Oh yeah - T3. That's what the girls would take to keep their weight down. " I also know of a friend who's sister had a TT and is now on Synthroid, but she's concerned about her because she's popping T3 to keep her weight down. I believe the excessive use of T3 can prompt the onset of early osteoporosis as well as heart disease, and is definitely not a good idea for long term use. mb Use of T3 for Weight Loss? I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this period. A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He said T3 helps with quick weight loss. Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 Thanks Gail & Alisa for your response. It is frustrating not being able to lose the weight. My oncologist and endo both told my family after surgery (I was apparently in recovery) that I would lose quite a bit of weight. It's been 5 months since surgery and 10 weeks since RAI and my self esteem is taking a beating LOL. I have a good sense of humour about it, but as I stated it is frustrating. I'm hanging in there...literally. Thanks again for your reply. Deborah - Toronto, Canada > > I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in June, had my surgery in August > > and have gained 42lbs since June. The cancer has spread into my lung > > and I will have another lovely month of hypo hell to look forward to > > in May in order to get ready for my next RAI treatment. My > > endocrinologist said to expect another 10-15 lb gain during this > > period. > > > > A friend who has a Masters in Biochem and works with a lot of > > athletes asked me if I was taking T3 in conjuction with Thoroxin > > (which is a T4). He said that T3 is what some doctors give athletes > > (legally or not I can't say) to slim down before competition. He > > said T3 helps with quick weight loss. > > > > Does anyone know about this? I hadn't heard of this before and if > > it's legitimate I would have assumed my endocrinologist would have > > mentioned it to me. When I questioned him about it, he said most > > endocrinologists go with the tried and tested T4. > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 > Thanks Gail & Alisa for your response. It is frustrating not being > able to lose the weight. My oncologist and endo both told my family > after surgery (I was apparently in recovery) that I would lose quite > a bit of weight. It's been 5 months since surgery and 10 weeks since > RAI and my self esteem is taking a beating LOL. I have a good sense > of humour about it, but as I stated it is frustrating. I'm hanging > in there...literally. > > Thanks again for your reply. > > Deborah - Toronto, Canada They said you would LOSE weight? Being HYPO? Deborah, do NOT let your self esteem be kicked by this (and I understand how it can). 10 weeks past RAI, you MAY be getting to a point of not being hypo any more. Do you know what your current TSH is? If not, I'd call the endo's office and find out. Thycans should have their TSH suppressed to being slightly hyperthyroid - <0.1 . While a symptom of being hyper is often weight loss, that can be offset for some of us (I'm convinced it's only those of us who WANT to lose weight :-)) by being hungry all the time when suppressed, making it a bit more of a struggle to fight the weight battle. Hang in there, Deborah - don't let this get to you - YOU are not your weight!! Cheers, Alisa Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl 2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA 3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!! 4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos 5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets 12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!! Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts: Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472 My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872 My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873 LID thoughts, tips, ideas - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430 Meg's friend Jody Meyers - member of choir and 's french tutor Currently - TSH 0.06, 140mcg Levoxyl TSH on 12/16/02 99.63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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