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> In a message dated 3/18/04 8:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> azarielcoss@y... writes:

>

> > last week i went to a different doctor an electrophysiologist and

he

> > wants to do an ablation(on tuesday the 30th)i am scared his

decision

> > was so sudden and unexpected.

> > can someone tell me how this feels,does it work?

> >

>

> Azariel,

> I've have an ablation (PVA-pulmonary vein ablation). as have many

others on

> this board. We have had varying results.

> Ablations are not always 100% effective. Success rate s vary from

Doctor to

> Doctor.

> I've seen it range from 50% to 95%, which tells me it must be in

the 70% to

> 80% range. Not bad, but not 100%.

> For an introduction to an ablation procedure you can go to

www.affacts.org

> na dclick on Dr. Keane's article and the click on PVI procedure. It

will walk

> you through the entire procedure. Preperation-the procedure-post

procedure.

> Question?

> What hospital are you visiting and who is the EP who wants to

perform the

> ablation?

> Rich O

it will be done at loyola hospital(maywood illinois)by dr david wilber

next tuesday.

>

>

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> In a message dated 3/18/04 8:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> azarielcoss@y... writes:

>

> > last week i went to a different doctor an electrophysiologist and

he

> > wants to do an ablation(on tuesday the 30th)i am scared his

decision

> > was so sudden and unexpected.

> > can someone tell me how this feels,does it work?

> >

>

> Azariel,

> I've have an ablation (PVA-pulmonary vein ablation). as have many

others on

> this board. We have had varying results.

> Ablations are not always 100% effective. Success rate s vary from

Doctor to

> Doctor.

> I've seen it range from 50% to 95%, which tells me it must be in

the 70% to

> 80% range. Not bad, but not 100%.

> For an introduction to an ablation procedure you can go to

www.affacts.org

> na dclick on Dr. Keane's article and the click on PVI procedure. It

will walk

> you through the entire procedure. Preperation-the procedure-post

procedure.

> Question?

> What hospital are you visiting and who is the EP who wants to

perform the

> ablation?

> Rich O

it will be done at loyola hospital(maywood illinois)by dr david wilber

next tuesday.

>

>

>

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> In a message dated 3/18/04 8:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> azarielcoss@y... writes:

>

> > last week i went to a different doctor an electrophysiologist and

he

> > wants to do an ablation(on tuesday the 30th)i am scared his

decision

> > was so sudden and unexpected.

> > can someone tell me how this feels,does it work?

> >

>

> Azariel,

> I've have an ablation (PVA-pulmonary vein ablation). as have many

others on

> this board. We have had varying results.

> Ablations are not always 100% effective. Success rate s vary from

Doctor to

> Doctor.

> I've seen it range from 50% to 95%, which tells me it must be in

the 70% to

> 80% range. Not bad, but not 100%.

> For an introduction to an ablation procedure you can go to

www.affacts.org

> na dclick on Dr. Keane's article and the click on PVI procedure. It

will walk

> you through the entire procedure. Preperation-the procedure-post

procedure.

> Question?

> What hospital are you visiting and who is the EP who wants to

perform the

> ablation?

> Rich O

it will be done at loyola hospital(maywood illinois)by dr david wilber

next tuesday.

>

>

>

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Hi Germaine. I've been to your beautiful city and Province. I worked for JD

Irving as an independent contractor for many years and made trips there.

Rich O

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Hi Germaine. I've been to your beautiful city and Province. I worked for JD

Irving as an independent contractor for many years and made trips there.

Rich O

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> Germaine, where are you having the work done?

> Rich O

Hi Rich,

I am having the work done in St. 's Newfoundland. You know, one

of the places where a lot of planes landed and the people were taken

care of on 9/11. We still have visitors coming back here who really

enjoyed being here even under those tragic circumstances.

Germaine

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I saw Dr Saliba the day after my PVA by Dr. Natale. (He released me) He quoted

the same percentages to me - 85% first time, 95% if a touchup is required.

Thor

Re: ablation

Dr Saliba at Cleveland Clinic told me they were getting 85% on the

first try and 95% if they had to do a second. He is 2nd to

there.

is now doing three PVA a day when he is in Cleveland which

is most of the time and has a six or seven month waiting list.

>

> > I am scheduled for a circumferential pv ablation in Dec. with

Dr.

> J. Marcus Wharton in SC. He is stating an 85% cure rate, with 95%

> success if a " touch-up " is necessary. Are there prior patients on

> this forum who can add support to these no.s?

> ..........................................

>

>

> 95% seems a bit high from what I've been told.

>

> Here's what I've been told by a few different EP's I've seen in

the

> last 9 months.

>

> Natale form the Cleveland Clinic: 80%

> Morady from the U of Michigan: 75% to 80%

> Haines from Beaumont Hosp Michigan: 75%

> Another local EP: 80% but long term no one really knows and he

> would suspect it would be around 60% long term.

>

> I was also told that Dr Papone in Italy has claimed a 90% success

> rate but no seems to be able to duplicate his numbers.

>

> One other thing that I was told and I'm checking into is that when

a

> patient goes to a CC or a U of M for their procedures done by

these

> top docs that the top docs are not actually doing the procedure

but

> instead supervising and monitoring a doctor, serving a fellowship,

> training in these procedures. Now if that is true...and I don't

know

> if it is....why would I wait 8 months for the hands of Natale or

> Morady when their hands wouldn't actually be doing the work? Does

> anyone have any info on that?

>

> P <MI>

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I saw Dr Saliba the day after my PVA by Dr. Natale. (He released me) He quoted

the same percentages to me - 85% first time, 95% if a touchup is required.

Thor

Re: ablation

Dr Saliba at Cleveland Clinic told me they were getting 85% on the

first try and 95% if they had to do a second. He is 2nd to

there.

is now doing three PVA a day when he is in Cleveland which

is most of the time and has a six or seven month waiting list.

>

> > I am scheduled for a circumferential pv ablation in Dec. with

Dr.

> J. Marcus Wharton in SC. He is stating an 85% cure rate, with 95%

> success if a " touch-up " is necessary. Are there prior patients on

> this forum who can add support to these no.s?

> ..........................................

>

>

> 95% seems a bit high from what I've been told.

>

> Here's what I've been told by a few different EP's I've seen in

the

> last 9 months.

>

> Natale form the Cleveland Clinic: 80%

> Morady from the U of Michigan: 75% to 80%

> Haines from Beaumont Hosp Michigan: 75%

> Another local EP: 80% but long term no one really knows and he

> would suspect it would be around 60% long term.

>

> I was also told that Dr Papone in Italy has claimed a 90% success

> rate but no seems to be able to duplicate his numbers.

>

> One other thing that I was told and I'm checking into is that when

a

> patient goes to a CC or a U of M for their procedures done by

these

> top docs that the top docs are not actually doing the procedure

but

> instead supervising and monitoring a doctor, serving a fellowship,

> training in these procedures. Now if that is true...and I don't

know

> if it is....why would I wait 8 months for the hands of Natale or

> Morady when their hands wouldn't actually be doing the work? Does

> anyone have any info on that?

>

> P <MI>

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Beanie,

What's an ablation? Go to www.affacts.org and click on Dr. Keane's

article then click on PVI. This will take you through the ablation procedure

and you can read through the whole web address as well. It's pretty

interesting.

The ablation is refered to as a PVA (Pulmonary Vein Ablation) or PVI

(Pulmonary Vein Isolation). What they are trying to do is locate those cells in

the

heart, that are

located 99% of the time at the entrance to the Pulmonary veins (those veins

leading to the lungs from the heart). These cells can generate an electrical

charge, but don't know where to send it, so it swirls around in the atria and

causes AF. Simply put, AF is an eletrical malfunction in the heart.

Read up on the Affacts.org info. It will answer most of your questions.

I'm also a PVA veteran as are several others on the board.

I rate PVA success as:

1. Complety AF free.

2. Marked improvement, but still AF evey now and then.

3. No change.

Rich O

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Beanie,

What's an ablation? Go to www.affacts.org and click on Dr. Keane's

article then click on PVI. This will take you through the ablation procedure

and you can read through the whole web address as well. It's pretty

interesting.

The ablation is refered to as a PVA (Pulmonary Vein Ablation) or PVI

(Pulmonary Vein Isolation). What they are trying to do is locate those cells in

the

heart, that are

located 99% of the time at the entrance to the Pulmonary veins (those veins

leading to the lungs from the heart). These cells can generate an electrical

charge, but don't know where to send it, so it swirls around in the atria and

causes AF. Simply put, AF is an eletrical malfunction in the heart.

Read up on the Affacts.org info. It will answer most of your questions.

I'm also a PVA veteran as are several others on the board.

I rate PVA success as:

1. Complety AF free.

2. Marked improvement, but still AF evey now and then.

3. No change.

Rich O

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