Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I too have personally opted to stop taking any 'cholesterol' medication. 2 blood tests back my 'rate' was lowered than ever and after going to 1/2 dose remained 'low'. I have come to think that the interference that this medication did could be more harmful than not taking it. IE seems to have done me more good than the medication which I now question as if ever necessary to begin with. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > My doctor wanted to put me on Lipitor. I had been on it once before and decided to stop taking it. I have done some reading about it. Apparently statins have been proven effective for men who have already had a heart attack. They have never been proven to be effective in women. And women are not simply men without a penis. For years women were dying from heart attacks because our symptoms are different from those of men. > > Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I too have personally opted to stop taking any 'cholesterol' medication. 2 blood tests back my 'rate' was lowered than ever and after going to 1/2 dose remained 'low'. I have come to think that the interference that this medication did could be more harmful than not taking it. IE seems to have done me more good than the medication which I now question as if ever necessary to begin with. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > My doctor wanted to put me on Lipitor. I had been on it once before and decided to stop taking it. I have done some reading about it. Apparently statins have been proven effective for men who have already had a heart attack. They have never been proven to be effective in women. And women are not simply men without a penis. For years women were dying from heart attacks because our symptoms are different from those of men. > > Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I too have personally opted to stop taking any 'cholesterol' medication. 2 blood tests back my 'rate' was lowered than ever and after going to 1/2 dose remained 'low'. I have come to think that the interference that this medication did could be more harmful than not taking it. IE seems to have done me more good than the medication which I now question as if ever necessary to begin with. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > My doctor wanted to put me on Lipitor. I had been on it once before and decided to stop taking it. I have done some reading about it. Apparently statins have been proven effective for men who have already had a heart attack. They have never been proven to be effective in women. And women are not simply men without a penis. For years women were dying from heart attacks because our symptoms are different from those of men. > > Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I went on Lopid because my triglycerides were too high, but the side effect can be high liver enzymes. The Depakote I am on can also do that. What's a person to do. Sandy I too have personally opted to stop taking any 'cholesterol' medication. 2 blood tests back my 'rate' was lowered than ever and after going to 1/2 dose remained 'low'. I have come to think that the interference that this medication did could be more harmful than not taking it. IE seems to have done me more good than the medication which I now question as if ever necessary to begin with. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > My doctor wanted to put me on Lipitor. I had been on it once before and decided to stop taking it. I have done some reading about it. Apparently statins have been proven effective for men who have already had a heart attack. They have never been proven to be effective in women. And women are not simply men without a penis. For years women were dying from heart attacks because our symptoms are different from those of men. > > Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I forget. When I balked about the statins she said, " oh they're totally safe, I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them " . I switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah > > > > > > My doctor wanted to put me on Lipitor. I had been on it once before and > > decided to stop taking it. I have done some reading about it. Apparently > > statins have been proven effective for men who have already had a heart > > attack. They have never been proven to be effective in women. And women are > > not simply men without a penis. For years women were dying from heart > > attacks because our symptoms are different from those of men. > > > > > > Carole > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Sandarah,How stupid was that doctor making her husband use a prescription drug, with risk of side effects, that he doesn't need! Good for you for changing doctors. What really ticks me off is that doctors are so ready to prescribe drugs rather than give a referral for a nutritionist. I did read somewhere that in some places doctors actually get paid for writing out prescriptions so that is an incentive to write out more.CaroleFrom: sanamu1234 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:44:07 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughtsMy PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I forget. When I balked about the statins she said, "oh they're totally safe, I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them". I switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny Re: medication thoughts My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I forget. When I balked about the statins she said, "oh they're totally safe, I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them". I switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny Re: medication thoughts My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I forget. When I balked about the statins she said, "oh they're totally safe, I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them". I switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny Re: medication thoughts My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I forget. When I balked about the statins she said, "oh they're totally safe, I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them". I switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Actually, it's not so stupid for this doctor to prescribe statins for someone who has normal cholesterol. Many docs feel this is what should happen because there are many benefits to statin drugs and there have been studies to show the benefits for people who have normal cholesterol. Some cardiologists think everyone should take them. Statins help millions of people. Of course we always have the choice, and they're not right for everybody. (This is probably off topic - sorry about that - but it seems pertinent to issues several people on the list are experiencing.) Sandarah,How stupid was that doctor making her husband use a prescription drug, with risk of side effects, that he doesn't need! Good for you for changing doctors. What really ticks me off is that doctors are so ready to prescribe drugs rather than give a referral for a nutritionist. I did read somewhere that in some places doctors actually get paid for writing out prescriptions so that is an incentive to write out more. Carole From: sanamu1234 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:44:07 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughtsMy PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I forget. When I balked about the statins she said, " oh they're totally safe, I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them " . I switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 What a disappointment and I think incorrect reaction - OK for psychiatric help, but not for a physical issue like 'weight' concern. I suspect this is because the medical profession knows it would be overwhelmed AND really hasn't a CLUE about how to effectively deal with a ballooning population. A 'take this (pill)' mentality is awash in dealing with something that goes beyond that simplistic approach. Its much easier to zero in on 'what' (food/exercise) than WHY one eats. Happily with IE we can unravel that 'mystery' for ourselves. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 What a disappointment and I think incorrect reaction - OK for psychiatric help, but not for a physical issue like 'weight' concern. I suspect this is because the medical profession knows it would be overwhelmed AND really hasn't a CLUE about how to effectively deal with a ballooning population. A 'take this (pill)' mentality is awash in dealing with something that goes beyond that simplistic approach. Its much easier to zero in on 'what' (food/exercise) than WHY one eats. Happily with IE we can unravel that 'mystery' for ourselves. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. Sunny Re: medication thoughts What a disappointment and I think incorrect reaction - OK for psychiatric help, but not for a physical issue like 'weight' concern. I suspect this is because the medical profession knows it would be overwhelmed AND really hasn't a CLUE about how to effectively deal with a ballooning population. A 'take this (pill)' mentality is awash in dealing with something that goes beyond that simplistic approach. Its much easier to zero in on 'what' (food/exercise) than WHY one eats. Happily with IE we can unravel that 'mystery' for ourselves. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. Sunny Re: medication thoughts What a disappointment and I think incorrect reaction - OK for psychiatric help, but not for a physical issue like 'weight' concern. I suspect this is because the medical profession knows it would be overwhelmed AND really hasn't a CLUE about how to effectively deal with a ballooning population. A 'take this (pill)' mentality is awash in dealing with something that goes beyond that simplistic approach. Its much easier to zero in on 'what' (food/exercise) than WHY one eats. Happily with IE we can unravel that 'mystery' for ourselves. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Lots of mental health problems and memory loss... they're not benign and certainly everyone should make informed choices as long as they inform themselves from something beyond pharmaceutical companies. > > > ** > > > > > > Sandarah, > > > > How stupid was that doctor making her husband use a prescription drug, with > > risk of side effects, that he doesn't need! Good for you for changing > > doctors. What really ticks me off is that doctors are so ready to prescribe > > drugs rather than give a referral for a nutritionist. I did read somewhere > > that in some places doctors actually get paid for writing out prescriptions > > so that is an incentive to write out more. > > Carole > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* sanamu1234 > > *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:44:07 PM > > *Subject:* Re: medication thoughts > > > > My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole > > laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I > > forget. When I balked about the statins she said, " oh they're totally safe, > > I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them " . I > > switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at > > normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump > > up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running > > rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body > > synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can > > nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Lots of mental health problems and memory loss... they're not benign and certainly everyone should make informed choices as long as they inform themselves from something beyond pharmaceutical companies. > > > ** > > > > > > Sandarah, > > > > How stupid was that doctor making her husband use a prescription drug, with > > risk of side effects, that he doesn't need! Good for you for changing > > doctors. What really ticks me off is that doctors are so ready to prescribe > > drugs rather than give a referral for a nutritionist. I did read somewhere > > that in some places doctors actually get paid for writing out prescriptions > > so that is an incentive to write out more. > > Carole > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* sanamu1234 > > *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:44:07 PM > > *Subject:* Re: medication thoughts > > > > My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole > > laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I > > forget. When I balked about the statins she said, " oh they're totally safe, > > I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them " . I > > switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at > > normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump > > up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running > > rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body > > synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can > > nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Lots of mental health problems and memory loss... they're not benign and certainly everyone should make informed choices as long as they inform themselves from something beyond pharmaceutical companies. > > > ** > > > > > > Sandarah, > > > > How stupid was that doctor making her husband use a prescription drug, with > > risk of side effects, that he doesn't need! Good for you for changing > > doctors. What really ticks me off is that doctors are so ready to prescribe > > drugs rather than give a referral for a nutritionist. I did read somewhere > > that in some places doctors actually get paid for writing out prescriptions > > so that is an incentive to write out more. > > Carole > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* sanamu1234 > > *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:44:07 PM > > *Subject:* Re: medication thoughts > > > > My PCP starting writing out prescriptions for me my last visit. The whole > > laundry list including lipids, blood pressure and some thing else, that I > > forget. When I balked about the statins she said, " oh they're totally safe, > > I even have my husband taking them and he doesn't even need them " . I > > switched PCP's and started accupuncture for my bp which has kept it at > > normal levels though you do have to keep having treatments or it will jump > > up again. As for the cholesterol, I knew full well that my diet was running > > rampant and it's going to be an uphill climb to get my head and my body > > synched up in that regard. In the meantime, I'll just do the best I can > > nutritionally speaking... Whatever that means... Sandarah > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Good point Sunny. It seems to me that the medical insurance industry is 'running the show' in many ways (including financing studies it wants to 'prove' its point of view on). I wonder if you could interview potential therapists to find if the know of, or are willing to understand IE as useful in helping you? That way you could know before you begin and get what you seek too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, " wow, this really isn't working " after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah > > > > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, " wow, this really isn't working " after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah > > > > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Re: Re: medication thoughts I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Re: Re: medication thoughts I asked my doctor for a referral to a nutritionist and the answer was, Kaiser really only covers a nutritionist if you ahve a real eating disorder like bulemia or anorexia. She did say not that compulsive/binge eating isn't a real disorder, it's just not something Kaiser covers. I imagine as the population continuous to swell (pun intended) we'll see a change. She was able to refer me to a mental health therapist and prescribe anti-depressants if I wanted that. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well, you have to make an appointment with the therapist and pay your co-pay in order to interview them. it's basically taking up their time the same as a therapy appointment. I heard this therapist I'm considering is very good and is generally well liked by her clients. Whether or not she does have IE knowledge remains to be seen but I can always see what I think of her and once she knows what I'm after, if she doesn't feel she can help me I bet she knows which of her colleagues are more suited for my needs. Sunny Re: medication thoughts Good point Sunny. It seems to me that the medical insurance industry is 'running the show' in many ways (including financing studies it wants to 'prove' its point of view on). I wonder if you could interview potential therapists to find if the know of, or are willing to understand IE as useful in helping you? That way you could know before you begin and get what you seek too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well, you have to make an appointment with the therapist and pay your co-pay in order to interview them. it's basically taking up their time the same as a therapy appointment. I heard this therapist I'm considering is very good and is generally well liked by her clients. Whether or not she does have IE knowledge remains to be seen but I can always see what I think of her and once she knows what I'm after, if she doesn't feel she can help me I bet she knows which of her colleagues are more suited for my needs. Sunny Re: medication thoughts Good point Sunny. It seems to me that the medical insurance industry is 'running the show' in many ways (including financing studies it wants to 'prove' its point of view on). I wonder if you could interview potential therapists to find if the know of, or are willing to understand IE as useful in helping you? That way you could know before you begin and get what you seek too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well, you have to make an appointment with the therapist and pay your co-pay in order to interview them. it's basically taking up their time the same as a therapy appointment. I heard this therapist I'm considering is very good and is generally well liked by her clients. Whether or not she does have IE knowledge remains to be seen but I can always see what I think of her and once she knows what I'm after, if she doesn't feel she can help me I bet she knows which of her colleagues are more suited for my needs. Sunny Re: medication thoughts Good point Sunny. It seems to me that the medical insurance industry is 'running the show' in many ways (including financing studies it wants to 'prove' its point of view on). I wonder if you could interview potential therapists to find if the know of, or are willing to understand IE as useful in helping you? That way you could know before you begin and get what you seek too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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