Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 In a message dated 3/16/2004 6:54:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, babydewe2@... writes: Arggggg.....Five years ago I was teaching at a Catholic school in Illinois. We had students there that were receiving remediation and speech services, and these were being provided through the local public school. ... I am not sure if the same things are happening today, but I believe that they are. ... Debbie It is. It happens that way here in New York. However, the ironic twist to receiving those services at a private school is that you have to go through the evaluations and whole IEP process with the local district. The needed services have to be included in the child's IEP, which is determined by the usual process we've all gone through. -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 In a message dated 3/17/2004 1:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, angelgasior@... writes: They are saying that they do not provide fm equipment to private school placements - actually the words were " the fm systems do not leave the public schools at all " - meaning we would have to provide our own. I don't know how this is legal if they determine that she needs an fm system wherever her placement might be. We haven't had the IEP meeting yet, we had a preliminary meeting to ask questions. Angel If the FM is in her IEP and the district cannot provide an appropriate placement within their system, then the FM should go with the cnild onto whatever placement is determined to be the appropriate LRE for her. The district cannot hold that equipment hostage or refuse to provide it just because the child needs to be placed in private school to meet her needs. I don't believe it is legal to hold the equipment hostage in order to convince you to place her in their school. If she needs the program at a private school, she should be there along with her necessary equipment. You'll need to have your own documentaiton supporting both the placement you think is best and her need for the FM system. Denying either request can be appealed. -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 << I don't know how this is legal if they determine that she needs an fm system wherever her placement might be. >> We " unilaterally " placed in a private school this year and lost the use of the FM system we'd had for three years. We knew it was coming, though, as I'd been gearing up for this for some time. In our state, the districts must offer a certain percentage of their funding for kids in private placements but, as our very experienced and expensive attorney advised us, the cost of placing some kids in alternative placements can eat that percentage up quickly. In our case, our district has been required to place two children with special needs in out-of-state schools (!) and what they pay for those children more than fulfills their required percentage. What was so ridiculous about all of this was that our district was paying in excess of $15000.00 per year (plus the FM) for to attend his special school for hearing impaired kids but when we asked for nothing else but the now-used FM system, they wouldn't do it. The cost of getting an attorney to fight it would have paid for 10 FM systems and so we paid out of pocket. We could have asked for speech services to be provided (on public school premises of course!) but the idea of pulling from school and driving to a half-hour appointment once a week with someone who wasn't even experienced with HI kids was not appealing. There was no way to get them to do the driving. Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student transportation! Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 The FM system is an assistive device to ensure your child has " equal access to the academic cirriculum. " If the IEP team determines that the most appropriate placement is in a private setting, the devices that s/he needs to fulfull the requirements under IDEA and FAPE shouldn't change. If the school is concerned about the well-being of the equipment, they should designate an individual in the private school setting that is responsible to ensure the FM is functioning properly, and is properly maintained and cared for. I would ask them where their priorities lay! Are they more concerned about an FM system then your child's quality of education?!?!?!? Colin _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:44:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, cbenecke@... writes: Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student transportation! Carol Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:44:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, cbenecke@... writes: Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student transportation! Carol Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:44:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, cbenecke@... writes: Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student transportation! Carol Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 << Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and > parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill>> It amazes me too...but it's there. I've read the whole code myself, after having been directed there by our attorney and several websites. It's Washington state which, incidentally, it looks like we'll be leaving soon anyway. :-) My husband is from New Jersey where EVERY child is bused to school, no matter which school it is. I know there are others. Apparently, those legislators understand that education is more important than being politically correct and that parents should have some say. My heart goes out to the families who just can't afford the schools they'd really like and they have to beg and plead and threaten to get the basics, however inadequate. I have to admit that it felt really good when we were able to tell the district " thanks for everything, but you're out of our lives, now! " It was also a bit gratifying to know that pulling from the special program made room, and the money available, for another child who needed it more. Carol - mom to , 7.11, mod to profound, LVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 << Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and > parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill>> It amazes me too...but it's there. I've read the whole code myself, after having been directed there by our attorney and several websites. It's Washington state which, incidentally, it looks like we'll be leaving soon anyway. :-) My husband is from New Jersey where EVERY child is bused to school, no matter which school it is. I know there are others. Apparently, those legislators understand that education is more important than being politically correct and that parents should have some say. My heart goes out to the families who just can't afford the schools they'd really like and they have to beg and plead and threaten to get the basics, however inadequate. I have to admit that it felt really good when we were able to tell the district " thanks for everything, but you're out of our lives, now! " It was also a bit gratifying to know that pulling from the special program made room, and the money available, for another child who needed it more. Carol - mom to , 7.11, mod to profound, LVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 << Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and > parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill>> It amazes me too...but it's there. I've read the whole code myself, after having been directed there by our attorney and several websites. It's Washington state which, incidentally, it looks like we'll be leaving soon anyway. :-) My husband is from New Jersey where EVERY child is bused to school, no matter which school it is. I know there are others. Apparently, those legislators understand that education is more important than being politically correct and that parents should have some say. My heart goes out to the families who just can't afford the schools they'd really like and they have to beg and plead and threaten to get the basics, however inadequate. I have to admit that it felt really good when we were able to tell the district " thanks for everything, but you're out of our lives, now! " It was also a bit gratifying to know that pulling from the special program made room, and the money available, for another child who needed it more. Carol - mom to , 7.11, mod to profound, LVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In VA as well. The public school bus may not enter private property. I work at a private school on a busy road. Last year one child had to be dropped off while the bus held up traffic. A teacher/adult had to walk to the road to meet the bus every day. Re: class size report > In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:44:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > cbenecke@... writes: > Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public > school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student > transportation! > > Carol > > Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and > parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In VA as well. The public school bus may not enter private property. I work at a private school on a busy road. Last year one child had to be dropped off while the bus held up traffic. A teacher/adult had to walk to the road to meet the bus every day. Re: class size report > In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:44:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > cbenecke@... writes: > Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public > school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student > transportation! > > Carol > > Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and > parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In VA as well. The public school bus may not enter private property. I work at a private school on a busy road. Last year one child had to be dropped off while the bus held up traffic. A teacher/adult had to walk to the road to meet the bus every day. Re: class size report > In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:44:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > cbenecke@... writes: > Get this: In OUR state it is actually ILLEGAL for a public > school bus to drive anywhere near to a private school for student > transportation! > > Carol > > Carol -- What state are you in? Our public school buses drive the private and > parochial school kids all the time. That law amazes me. -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 <<> Last year one child had to be dropped off while the bus held up traffic. A > teacher/adult had to walk to the road to meet the bus every day.>> Wow. That way, they could endanger multiple lives! :-0 But at least they'd go to the street. The school my son was going to attend was actually across the street from the public high school and I asked if they'd at least drive him to THAT campus since it was a district school and I would meet them there. Bet you can guess what their answer was! Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 <<> Last year one child had to be dropped off while the bus held up traffic. A > teacher/adult had to walk to the road to meet the bus every day.>> Wow. That way, they could endanger multiple lives! :-0 But at least they'd go to the street. The school my son was going to attend was actually across the street from the public high school and I asked if they'd at least drive him to THAT campus since it was a district school and I would meet them there. Bet you can guess what their answer was! Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 <<> Last year one child had to be dropped off while the bus held up traffic. A > teacher/adult had to walk to the road to meet the bus every day.>> Wow. That way, they could endanger multiple lives! :-0 But at least they'd go to the street. The school my son was going to attend was actually across the street from the public high school and I asked if they'd at least drive him to THAT campus since it was a district school and I would meet them there. Bet you can guess what their answer was! Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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