Re: MA and fertility drugs (m/c and preg. ment.)

[Guest guest]

> 1. Who in here has become pregnant without stimulating drugs, and

> carried to term?

Raising hand As long as you count 38 weeks as term, at least! Like you,

I've not had trouble GETTING pregnant, it's STAYING pg that is tough!

> 2. Has anybody been recomended by RE or OB to do drugs just because

> we're MA? My doctor says " that's not your issue " .

Not at all. My OB also says that BU has nothing to do with fertility or

even early m/c.

> 3. Is there a reason to think that because we're MA, our eggs may be

> of lesser quality and/or hormone levels vary more than in women with

> a normal uterus?

Not that I know of...

Of course, just because we have MA's doesn't mean we DON'T have other

fertility issues!!! Meaning, we have as many fertility issues on top of the

MA as those who don't have MAs... several women here have PCOS and immune

problems...

Since you've had early m/c, I'd definitely push for a definite diagnosis to

see if you have SU, also get tested for luteal phase defect to see if there

is a progesterone deficit in early pregnancy, as well as testing for

autoimmune disorders. Then you'll know if/what treatment will help... You

can also start charting your cycles to see if you are ovulating every month.

If you have irregular periods especially, the herbal product Vitex taken the

last 2 weeks of each cycle can be really helpful in normalizing hormone

levels...

hope this helps!

hugs

Mikki

38, BU/SU, DD 10/25/04, DS 8/5/04, 35 weeks pg with twin boys

[Guest guest]

> 1. Who in here has become pregnant without stimulating drugs, and

> carried to term?

Raising hand As long as you count 38 weeks as term, at least! Like you,

I've not had trouble GETTING pregnant, it's STAYING pg that is tough!

> 2. Has anybody been recomended by RE or OB to do drugs just because

> we're MA? My doctor says " that's not your issue " .

Not at all. My OB also says that BU has nothing to do with fertility or

even early m/c.

> 3. Is there a reason to think that because we're MA, our eggs may be

> of lesser quality and/or hormone levels vary more than in women with

> a normal uterus?

Not that I know of...

Of course, just because we have MA's doesn't mean we DON'T have other

fertility issues!!! Meaning, we have as many fertility issues on top of the

MA as those who don't have MAs... several women here have PCOS and immune

problems...

Since you've had early m/c, I'd definitely push for a definite diagnosis to

see if you have SU, also get tested for luteal phase defect to see if there

is a progesterone deficit in early pregnancy, as well as testing for

autoimmune disorders. Then you'll know if/what treatment will help... You

can also start charting your cycles to see if you are ovulating every month.

If you have irregular periods especially, the herbal product Vitex taken the

last 2 weeks of each cycle can be really helpful in normalizing hormone

levels...

hope this helps!

hugs

Mikki

38, BU/SU, DD 10/25/04, DS 8/5/04, 35 weeks pg with twin boys

[Guest guest]

> 1. Who in here has become pregnant without stimulating drugs, and

> carried to term?

Raising hand As long as you count 38 weeks as term, at least! Like you,

I've not had trouble GETTING pregnant, it's STAYING pg that is tough!

> 2. Has anybody been recomended by RE or OB to do drugs just because

> we're MA? My doctor says " that's not your issue " .

Not at all. My OB also says that BU has nothing to do with fertility or

even early m/c.

> 3. Is there a reason to think that because we're MA, our eggs may be

> of lesser quality and/or hormone levels vary more than in women with

> a normal uterus?

Not that I know of...

Of course, just because we have MA's doesn't mean we DON'T have other

fertility issues!!! Meaning, we have as many fertility issues on top of the

MA as those who don't have MAs... several women here have PCOS and immune

problems...

Since you've had early m/c, I'd definitely push for a definite diagnosis to

see if you have SU, also get tested for luteal phase defect to see if there

is a progesterone deficit in early pregnancy, as well as testing for

autoimmune disorders. Then you'll know if/what treatment will help... You

can also start charting your cycles to see if you are ovulating every month.

If you have irregular periods especially, the herbal product Vitex taken the

last 2 weeks of each cycle can be really helpful in normalizing hormone

levels...

hope this helps!

hugs

Mikki

38, BU/SU, DD 10/25/04, DS 8/5/04, 35 weeks pg with twin boys

[Guest guest]

1. Who in here has become pregnant without stimulating drugs, and

carried to term?

I too am 36 at this point.

I have not used any drugs to get pregnant.

I am BU

Here are my successes to date.

I have been very blessed with no m/c yet.

36, BU

Mom to:

Nicolas Hodgson 8/12/88 /4 days early

Kristopher Micheal Hodgson 11/9/89 /2 wks late

Witte 6/15/95 born at 23 wks at 15oz lived 1 hr 20min now lives

in heaven

Mathew Shane Witte 6/15/95 born at 23 wks at 1lb 4oz…is doing great

Seaman 8/26/00 /1 wk early

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/alexanders

Connor Seaman 4/16/02 / 1 wk late

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/c/connorryan

Baby Due Seaman 11/19/04 ?? Boy ??

Ultrasound say 11/13/04

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/d/due111904

2. Has anybody been recomended by RE or OB to do drugs just because

we're MA? My doctor says " that's not your issue " .

My OB has never recommend anything for me.

3. Is there a reason to think that because we're MA, our eggs may be

of lesser quality and/or hormone levels vary more than in women with

a normal uterus?

I wouldn't think so, but do not know

4. What about insemination?

I have never really tought about it. My SIL just had it done inSept, but

because of my brother, not her.

Sorry I could not be of more help.

S

[Guest guest]

1. Who in here has become pregnant without stimulating drugs, and

carried to term?

I too am 36 at this point.

I have not used any drugs to get pregnant.

I am BU

Here are my successes to date.

I have been very blessed with no m/c yet.

36, BU

Mom to:

Nicolas Hodgson 8/12/88 /4 days early

Kristopher Micheal Hodgson 11/9/89 /2 wks late

Witte 6/15/95 born at 23 wks at 15oz lived 1 hr 20min now lives

in heaven

Mathew Shane Witte 6/15/95 born at 23 wks at 1lb 4oz…is doing great

Seaman 8/26/00 /1 wk early

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/alexanders

Connor Seaman 4/16/02 / 1 wk late

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/c/connorryan

Baby Due Seaman 11/19/04 ?? Boy ??

Ultrasound say 11/13/04

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/d/due111904

2. Has anybody been recomended by RE or OB to do drugs just because

we're MA? My doctor says " that's not your issue " .

My OB has never recommend anything for me.

3. Is there a reason to think that because we're MA, our eggs may be

of lesser quality and/or hormone levels vary more than in women with

a normal uterus?

I wouldn't think so, but do not know

4. What about insemination?

I have never really tought about it. My SIL just had it done inSept, but

because of my brother, not her.

Sorry I could not be of more help.

S

[Guest guest]

1. Who in here has become pregnant without stimulating drugs, and

carried to term?

I too am 36 at this point.

I have not used any drugs to get pregnant.

I am BU

Here are my successes to date.

I have been very blessed with no m/c yet.

36, BU

Mom to:

Nicolas Hodgson 8/12/88 /4 days early

Kristopher Micheal Hodgson 11/9/89 /2 wks late

Witte 6/15/95 born at 23 wks at 15oz lived 1 hr 20min now lives

in heaven

Mathew Shane Witte 6/15/95 born at 23 wks at 1lb 4oz…is doing great

Seaman 8/26/00 /1 wk early

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/alexanders

Connor Seaman 4/16/02 / 1 wk late

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/c/connorryan

Baby Due Seaman 11/19/04 ?? Boy ??

Ultrasound say 11/13/04

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/d/due111904

2. Has anybody been recomended by RE or OB to do drugs just because

we're MA? My doctor says " that's not your issue " .

My OB has never recommend anything for me.

3. Is there a reason to think that because we're MA, our eggs may be

of lesser quality and/or hormone levels vary more than in women with

a normal uterus?

I wouldn't think so, but do not know

4. What about insemination?

I have never really tought about it. My SIL just had it done inSept, but

because of my brother, not her.

Sorry I could not be of more help.

S

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,

I am not pregnant yet (SU resected in March) but have recently

started on fertility drugs - NOT due to my MA though - and I have

never been pregnant, after 2-1/2 years of trying. Bloodwork found my

progesterone is low (so I take progesterone suppositories the last

two weeks of my cycle), plus it's not clear whether my eggs have been

maturing and releasing properly (possible LPD), and I have had a

couple of weird cycles lately where I probably didn't ovulate. All

that led us to decide I should take a low-dose fertility drug and do

u/s monitoring - at least that way I would have the assurance of

knowing whether I was actually ovulating each month.

I was on clomid about a year ago before we discovered I was SU & had

the surgery. It dried up my cervical fluid too much - my RE didn't

want to put me on it again. So, he's put me on a similar drug,

called tamoxifen, which has better side effects - it's actually

supposed to help increase the lining of the uterus & the quality of

the cervical fluid. I went in for an u/s (follicle check) on day 2

and again on day 12 - had one egg ready to go - got an hcg shot which

caused the egg to release in the next 24-36 hours, and was told to go

home and BD the next three nights! So, we'll see if it did the trick

this month! :-)

I don't think egg quality is releated to MA's - probably more so to

whether we're ovulating properly, have enough of the right hormones,

etc. etc. Insemination would be worth considering if your DH's sperm

count were low or you've not had success with other procedures. And

w/ insemination, I believe they will put you on a fertility drug like

clomid or tamoxifen to make sure your eggs are developing and ready

to go.

Best wishes to you,

Sandy, 31

SU resected 3/04

ttc #1

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,

I am not pregnant yet (SU resected in March) but have recently

started on fertility drugs - NOT due to my MA though - and I have

never been pregnant, after 2-1/2 years of trying. Bloodwork found my

progesterone is low (so I take progesterone suppositories the last

two weeks of my cycle), plus it's not clear whether my eggs have been

maturing and releasing properly (possible LPD), and I have had a

couple of weird cycles lately where I probably didn't ovulate. All

that led us to decide I should take a low-dose fertility drug and do

u/s monitoring - at least that way I would have the assurance of

knowing whether I was actually ovulating each month.

I was on clomid about a year ago before we discovered I was SU & had

the surgery. It dried up my cervical fluid too much - my RE didn't

want to put me on it again. So, he's put me on a similar drug,

called tamoxifen, which has better side effects - it's actually

supposed to help increase the lining of the uterus & the quality of

the cervical fluid. I went in for an u/s (follicle check) on day 2

and again on day 12 - had one egg ready to go - got an hcg shot which

caused the egg to release in the next 24-36 hours, and was told to go

home and BD the next three nights! So, we'll see if it did the trick

this month! :-)

I don't think egg quality is releated to MA's - probably more so to

whether we're ovulating properly, have enough of the right hormones,

etc. etc. Insemination would be worth considering if your DH's sperm

count were low or you've not had success with other procedures. And

w/ insemination, I believe they will put you on a fertility drug like

clomid or tamoxifen to make sure your eggs are developing and ready

to go.

Best wishes to you,

Sandy, 31

SU resected 3/04

ttc #1

[Guest guest]

, Mikki, Kimbery, and Sandy,

Thanks for all your input. It helps. Mikki, we've done all the tests

both for DH and myself. , I'm on folic acid and asprin as well

for a heterozygous MTHFR gene (may or may not have caused my m/c).

Your input gives me some idea, and I thank you for it! It confirmes

some things I have talked to my doctor about and what I've been

thinking lately. We'll see what we'll do in the next few months.

Mikki, the herbal remedy sounds like a good idea, too.

Protocol question: when people post " ttc # 1 " , does that mean ttc

first pregnancy ever, or does it mean ttc first baby ever born? So

I'm I ttc# 1 or #4 in that case :-) ... sorry for this not so

relevant question, I'm just trying to clarify...

Cecilia, 35, BU

3 m/c, ttc #1 or #4???

>

> Hi Cecilia,

> I am not pregnant yet (SU resected in March) but have recently

> started on fertility drugs - NOT due to my MA though - and I have

> never been pregnant, after 2-1/2 years of trying. Bloodwork found

my

> progesterone is low (so I take progesterone suppositories the last

> two weeks of my cycle), plus it's not clear whether my eggs have

been

> maturing and releasing properly (possible LPD), and I have had a

> couple of weird cycles lately where I probably didn't ovulate. All

> that led us to decide I should take a low-dose fertility drug and

do

> u/s monitoring - at least that way I would have the assurance of

> knowing whether I was actually ovulating each month.

>

> I was on clomid about a year ago before we discovered I was SU &

had

> the surgery. It dried up my cervical fluid too much - my RE didn't

> want to put me on it again. So, he's put me on a similar drug,

> called tamoxifen, which has better side effects - it's actually

> supposed to help increase the lining of the uterus & the quality of

> the cervical fluid. I went in for an u/s (follicle check) on day 2

> and again on day 12 - had one egg ready to go - got an hcg shot

which

> caused the egg to release in the next 24-36 hours, and was told to

go

> home and BD the next three nights! So, we'll see if it did the

trick

> this month! :-)

>

> I don't think egg quality is releated to MA's - probably more so to

> whether we're ovulating properly, have enough of the right

hormones,

> etc. etc. Insemination would be worth considering if your DH's

sperm

> count were low or you've not had success with other procedures.

And

> w/ insemination, I believe they will put you on a fertility drug

like

> clomid or tamoxifen to make sure your eggs are developing and ready

> to go.

>

> Best wishes to you,

> Sandy, 31

> SU resected 3/04

> ttc #1

[Guest guest]

, Mikki, Kimbery, and Sandy,

Thanks for all your input. It helps. Mikki, we've done all the tests

both for DH and myself. , I'm on folic acid and asprin as well

for a heterozygous MTHFR gene (may or may not have caused my m/c).

Your input gives me some idea, and I thank you for it! It confirmes

some things I have talked to my doctor about and what I've been

thinking lately. We'll see what we'll do in the next few months.

Mikki, the herbal remedy sounds like a good idea, too.

Protocol question: when people post " ttc # 1 " , does that mean ttc

first pregnancy ever, or does it mean ttc first baby ever born? So

I'm I ttc# 1 or #4 in that case :-) ... sorry for this not so

relevant question, I'm just trying to clarify...

Cecilia, 35, BU

3 m/c, ttc #1 or #4???

>

> Hi Cecilia,

> I am not pregnant yet (SU resected in March) but have recently

> started on fertility drugs - NOT due to my MA though - and I have

> never been pregnant, after 2-1/2 years of trying. Bloodwork found

my

> progesterone is low (so I take progesterone suppositories the last

> two weeks of my cycle), plus it's not clear whether my eggs have

been

> maturing and releasing properly (possible LPD), and I have had a

> couple of weird cycles lately where I probably didn't ovulate. All

> that led us to decide I should take a low-dose fertility drug and

do

> u/s monitoring - at least that way I would have the assurance of

> knowing whether I was actually ovulating each month.

>

> I was on clomid about a year ago before we discovered I was SU &

had

> the surgery. It dried up my cervical fluid too much - my RE didn't

> want to put me on it again. So, he's put me on a similar drug,

> called tamoxifen, which has better side effects - it's actually

> supposed to help increase the lining of the uterus & the quality of

> the cervical fluid. I went in for an u/s (follicle check) on day 2

> and again on day 12 - had one egg ready to go - got an hcg shot

which

> caused the egg to release in the next 24-36 hours, and was told to

go

> home and BD the next three nights! So, we'll see if it did the

trick

> this month! :-)

>

> I don't think egg quality is releated to MA's - probably more so to

> whether we're ovulating properly, have enough of the right

hormones,

> etc. etc. Insemination would be worth considering if your DH's

sperm

> count were low or you've not had success with other procedures.

And

> w/ insemination, I believe they will put you on a fertility drug

like

> clomid or tamoxifen to make sure your eggs are developing and ready

> to go.

>

> Best wishes to you,

> Sandy, 31

> SU resected 3/04

> ttc #1

[Guest guest]

, Mikki, Kimbery, and Sandy,

Thanks for all your input. It helps. Mikki, we've done all the tests

both for DH and myself. , I'm on folic acid and asprin as well

for a heterozygous MTHFR gene (may or may not have caused my m/c).

Your input gives me some idea, and I thank you for it! It confirmes

some things I have talked to my doctor about and what I've been

thinking lately. We'll see what we'll do in the next few months.

Mikki, the herbal remedy sounds like a good idea, too.

Protocol question: when people post " ttc # 1 " , does that mean ttc

first pregnancy ever, or does it mean ttc first baby ever born? So

I'm I ttc# 1 or #4 in that case :-) ... sorry for this not so

relevant question, I'm just trying to clarify...

Cecilia, 35, BU

3 m/c, ttc #1 or #4???

>

> Hi Cecilia,

> I am not pregnant yet (SU resected in March) but have recently

> started on fertility drugs - NOT due to my MA though - and I have

> never been pregnant, after 2-1/2 years of trying. Bloodwork found

my

> progesterone is low (so I take progesterone suppositories the last

> two weeks of my cycle), plus it's not clear whether my eggs have

been

> maturing and releasing properly (possible LPD), and I have had a

> couple of weird cycles lately where I probably didn't ovulate. All

> that led us to decide I should take a low-dose fertility drug and

do

> u/s monitoring - at least that way I would have the assurance of

> knowing whether I was actually ovulating each month.

>

> I was on clomid about a year ago before we discovered I was SU &

had

> the surgery. It dried up my cervical fluid too much - my RE didn't

> want to put me on it again. So, he's put me on a similar drug,

> called tamoxifen, which has better side effects - it's actually

> supposed to help increase the lining of the uterus & the quality of

> the cervical fluid. I went in for an u/s (follicle check) on day 2

> and again on day 12 - had one egg ready to go - got an hcg shot

which

> caused the egg to release in the next 24-36 hours, and was told to

go

> home and BD the next three nights! So, we'll see if it did the

trick

> this month! :-)

>

> I don't think egg quality is releated to MA's - probably more so to

> whether we're ovulating properly, have enough of the right

hormones,

> etc. etc. Insemination would be worth considering if your DH's

sperm

> count were low or you've not had success with other procedures.

And

> w/ insemination, I believe they will put you on a fertility drug

like

> clomid or tamoxifen to make sure your eggs are developing and ready

> to go.

>

> Best wishes to you,

> Sandy, 31

> SU resected 3/04

> ttc #1